The
Committee consisted of the following
Members:
Atkins,
Charlotte
(Staffordshire, Moorlands)
(Lab)
Blizzard,
Mr. Bob
(Lord Commissioner of Her Majesty's
Treasury)
Browne,
Mr. Jeremy
(Taunton)
(LD)
Cable,
Dr. Vincent
(Twickenham)
(LD)
Chaytor,
Mr. David
(Bury, North)
(Lab)
Crausby,
Mr. David
(Bolton, North-East)
(Lab)
Duddridge,
James
(Rochford and Southend, East)
(Con)
Farrelly,
Paul
(Newcastle-under-Lyme)
(Lab)
Field,
Mr. Mark
(Cities of London and Westminster)
(Con)
Hoban,
Mr. Mark
(Fareham)
(Con)
Hopkins,
Kelvin
(Luton, North)
(Lab)
Pound,
Stephen
(Ealing, North)
(Lab)
Taylor,
Mr. Ian
(Esher and Walton)
(Con)
Timms,
Mr. Stephen
(Financial Secretary to the
Treasury)
Todd,
Mr. Mark
(South Derbyshire)
(Lab)
Viggers,
Sir Peter
(Gosport)
(Con)
Mick Hillyard, Committee
Clerk
attended the
Committee
The following also attended,
pursuant to Standing Order No.
118(2):
Robertson,
John
(Glasgow, North-West) (Lab)
First
Delegated Legislation
Committee
Monday 16
March
2009
[Joan
Walley in the
Chair]
Draft Enactment of Extra-Statutory Concessions Order 2009
4.30
pm
The
Financial Secretary to the Treasury (Mr. Stephen
Timms): I beg to move,
That the
Committee has considered the draft Enactment of Extra-Statutory
Concessions Order
2009.
The
Chairman: With this it will be convenient to consider the
Insurance Premium Tax (Amendment of Schedule 6A to the Finance Act
1994) Order
2009.
Mr.
Timms: I bid you a warm welcome to the Chair, Ms Walley,
as this is the first time that I have had the pleasure of serving under
your
chairmanship.
The
debate deals with extra-statutory concessions. Administrative
concessions give taxpayers a reduction in tax liability to which they
would not be entitled under the strict letter of the law and have been
a feature of the tax system for a long time. The majority of
concessions deal with what are, on the whole, minor or transitory
anomalies in tax legislation. They are often designed to meet cases of
particular difficulty at the margins of the tax code. Most concessions
are contained in the booklets IR1, a former Inland Revenue publication,
and notice 48, a former publication of Her Majestys Customs and
Excise.
The decision
of the courts in the Wilkinson case made it clear that the scope of
HMRCs administrative discretion to make concessions that depart
from the strict letter of the law is narrower than had previously been
thought. The decision also drew attention to the likelihood that some
existing concessions might have exceeded that scope.
The result is
that HMRC is reviewing all its concessions. Each
concessionthere are about 500 in totalwill be
considered carefully, and the aim is to retain as many as possible, but
some might no longer be required, and it might not be possible to
legislate for the effect of others. Most concessions will continue to
operate as they do now, but there are likely to be several for which
the tax treatment can continue only if they are put on a statutory
footing.
Section 160
of the Finance Act 2008 was designed to enable us to give statutory
effect to tax concessions. It applies only to concessions that were in
existence at the time of the passing of the 2008 Act. It cannot be used
to introduce new concessions or to extend the effect of existing
ones.
As part of
the review, HMRC has now identified several concessions beyond the
scope of its powers that can now be legislated for using the power set
out in the 2008 Act. The first order consists of legislation on
16 separate concessions. The second order contains
legislation for one further concession.
The draft
legislation for those concessions and a further two that are subject to
the negative procedure were the subject of a full 12-week public
consultation, in which views were sought on whether the draft
legislation accurately translated the effect of the 19 concessions. The
major tax bodies were consulted, as were the representative bodies from
the individual sectors affected.
The responses
to the consultation have been positive, and the major tax bodies and
representative bodies are pleased that the Government are legislating
for these concessions. The Chartered Institute of Taxation stated
that
the
move to identify concessions and, where appropriate, to place them on
the statute book is something we
welcome.
Other
groups have also been
positive.
I
should like to thank all those who responded to the consultation and
helped us in that way. The consultation has helped us confirm that the
legislation presented in the orders accurately replicates the effect of
the original concessions. I am happy with the scrutiny given to the
draft legislation and welcome the positive responses that the process
has received. I commend the orders to the
Committee.
4.34
pm
Mr.
Mark Hoban (Fareham) (Con): It is a pleasure to serve for
the first time under your chairmanship, Ms Walley, although
I suspect that it will be very brief on this occasion.
We welcome
the two orders. We had a full debate on the enabling power during the
passage of the Finance Act 2008. Therefore, I do not have many
questions. The Minister referred to the consultation process, which I
gather raised questions such as whether the phrases living
together and living with mean the same thing.
Clearly, there has been some detailed consideration by tax
advisers.
The
consultation document referred to three lists of extra-statutory
concessions. Most items in the first list are picked up in these
statutory instruments or in the two that were subject to the negative
procedure, to which the Minister referred. However, appendix B said
that clarification is needed before legislation is drafted in five
casestwo relating to the issuance of premium tax; one to income
tax, which is overlaps with corporation tax; and two to corporation tax
exclusively. Will the Minister advise the Committee of any progress in
establishing whether clarification is needed and whether legislation
must be
drafted?
4.36
pm
Mr.
Jeremy Browne (Taunton) (LD): Thank you for giving me an
opportunity to contribute, Ms Walley. I, too, will be brief, because I
do not anticipate a wide divergence of views on these
subjects.
I
am interested to hear more detail about the Ministers views on
the process. He said that 500 exemptions had been considered. What is
the monetary value of those concessions? To put that differently, what
is the cost to the taxpayer of extending those 500 acts of generosity
to various groups in society? Was consideration given to removing some
concessions to raise revenue to address
the serious shortfalls in income to the Treasury as a result of the
current economic circumstances? Was this a straightforward
administrative process or were there revenue-raising considerations? I
do not say that as a criticism. It is reasonable for the Treasury to be
alert to opportunities to raise revenue where appropriate. Although a
concession has some merit, that might be sufficiently diminished to
make it worth removing the concession and having the
money.
When
the insurance premium tax was introduced in the 1990s, I remember
thinking that the motivation behind it was slightly strange. I
understand that it closed a loophole, but the basic tax penalised some
people additionally if their car was stolen or their house broken into,
because they paid a premium on insuring themselves against those
eventualities. When the Treasury considered the exemption from that
tax, did it look at wider exemptions that might have been regarded as
beneficial to other groups in society, even if there were consequent
cost
implications?
4.39
pm
Paul
Farrelly (Newcastle-under-Lyme) (Lab): It is a privilege
to serve for the first time under the chairmanship of my constituency
next-door neighbour, Ms
Walley.
Will
the Minister itemise the cost to the Exchequer of each concession?
These days, we are all concerned about tax abuse, tax avoidance and
loopholes. A few weeks ago, I tabled some questions to the Treasury
about capital gains tax, which the Minister answered. One question was
on how much the personal allowance for capital gains, which is
additional to the annual allowance for income tax and higher than it,
cost the public purse. The Minister or the officials who drafted the
answer said that they did not know, which seemed quite astounding for
such a big item. It is much bigger than some that we are considering
today. I will follow that up with the Minister, but I would be grateful
if he commented on the
costs.
4.40
pm
Mr.
Timms: I am glad that the two orders are generally
welcome. The hon. Member for Fareham referred to the detail of the
consultation, and he was absolutely right. For example, on the
extra-statutory concession about foreign-owned works of art, some
respondents asked that
solely for any
one or more of the purposes of public display, cleaning and
restoration
be replaced
by
for
one or more of the purposes of public display, cleaning and restoration
(and for no other
purpose),
and
we happily acceded to that
demand.
I
turn to the other outstanding issues that the hon. Gentleman mentioned.
The two-month discussion with the industry on the outstanding
concessions will not be concluded until 1 May. I can assure him that we
do not see this as an opportunity to raise extra revenue for the
Exchequer. If we were minded to look for additional revenue in any of
these areas, we would need to do that in the normal way, by announcing
a Budget measure and legislating in the Finance Bill.
This exercise
is purely about ensuring that concessions that have been usedin
many cases for a long timecontinue to be available. If there
were to be a change, we would introduce it in the Finance Bill. As the
hon. Member for Taunton suggested, we might find that some of the
concessions were no longer relevant and would therefore not legislate
for them. In some cases, it might not be possible to
legislatefor example, if such a concession was contrary to
European law. If we can, however, we will legislate to maintain all the
concessions that have been
used.
We
think that the revenue that the concessions account for is less than
£5 million a year. I will give some information to my hon.
Friend the Member for Newcastle-under-Lyme. I have data on each
concession, but the total is pretty modest. The intention of the
exercise is simply to be able to continue arrangements that have always
applied. If we wanted to change any of those arrangements, the proper
way to do so would be through the
Budget.
There
will be more consultation exercises, as further tranches of concessions
need to be consulted on. We will therefore go through the exercise
systematically in the period
ahead.
Question
put and agreed
to.
Resolved,
That
the Committee has considered the Insurance Premium Tax (Amendment of
Schedule 6A to The Finance Act 1994) Order 2009 (S.I., 2009, No.
219)(Mr.
Timms.)
4.44
pm
Committee
rose.