The
Committee consisted of the following
Members:
Chairman:
Mr.
Clive Betts
Austin,
Mr. Ian
(Minister for the West
Midlands)Barrett,
John
(Edinburgh, West)
(LD)
Bone,
Mr. Peter
(Wellingborough)
(Con)
Clwyd,
Ann
(Cynon Valley)
(Lab)
Dhanda,
Mr. Parmjit
(Gloucester)
(Lab)
Dunne,
Mr. Philip
(Ludlow)
(Con)
Field,
Mr. Mark
(Cities of London and Westminster)
(Con)
Hoey,
Kate
(Vauxhall)
(Lab)
Lancaster,
Mr. Mark
(North-East Milton Keynes)
(Con)
Lewis,
Mr. Ivan
(Parliamentary Under-Secretary of State for
International
Development)
McCarthy,
Kerry
(Bristol, East)
(Lab)
Moore,
Mr. Michael
(Berwickshire, Roxburgh and Selkirk)
(LD)
Murphy,
Mr. Denis
(Wansbeck)
(Lab)
Touhig,
Mr. Don
(Islwyn)
(Lab/Co-op)
Whittingdale,
Mr. John
(Maldon and East Chelmsford)
(Con)
Wright,
David
(Telford) (Lab)
Mark
Oxborough, Committee Clerk
attended the Committee
First
Delegated Legislation
Committee
Tuesday 21
April
2009
[Mr.
Clive Betts in the
Chair]
Draft
Asian Development Bank (Ninth Replenishment of the Asian Development
Fund) Order
2009
4.30
pm
The
Parliamentary Under-Secretary of State for International Development
(Mr. Ivan Lewis): I beg to
move,
That
the Committee has considered the draft Asian Development Bank (Ninth
Replenishment of the Asian Development Fund) Order
2009.
It
is a pleasure to serve under your chairmanship, Mr. Betts.
The draft order covers the UKs proposed contribution to the
ninth replenishment of the Asian development fund of the Asian
Development Bank. Like the rest of the world, the Asia-Pacific region
is suffering the effects of the most serious global financial crisis
for generations. The region is changing fast and some of its countries
have experienced rapid economic growth in recent years, but it is still
home to two thirds of the worlds poorest and most vulnerable
people. They suffer most in these
crises.
As
the regions second largest donor after the World Bank, the ADB
will play a crucial role in the response. Swift, targeted action is
needed, with a clear focus on poverty reduction in the longer term.
This funding is crucial to the Governments overall efforts to
help developing countries to lift themselves out of poverty. Why should
that matter to us? As well as being morally right, it is in our own
strategic national interest. In an increasingly interdependent world,
we are closer than ever to those in less developed countries. Trade is
global. The rise and fall of energy and food prices and unstable
financial markets affect us all. The effects of poverty and lack of
opportunities, such as people trafficking and drug trafficking,
conflict and the spread of disease, are reaching our own doorsteps.
Poverty reduction, including in Asia, is an important part of securing
our own economic and social
well-being.
Although
modelled in many respects on the World Bank, the ADB has a unique
regional focus. A major strength of the ADB is its presence in almost
all countries in the Asia-Pacific region. With its close ties with
borrowing member Governments, the bank has acquired deep and wide
knowledge and expertise in those countries. The ADB has two lending
windows: the bank, which lends at near-market rates of interest to
creditworthy countries and the private sector; and the fund, which
provides grants and lending on highly concessional terms to the less
developed regional members of the
bank.
The
fund is replenished every four years to provide additional resources to
the poorest countries. At the latest replenishment discussions, donors
agreed to give $4.2 billion. The total resources available to the
ADF-X
are US$11.3 billion over the next four years2009 to 2012. That
is an increase of US$4 billion on the previous replenishment period of
2005 to 2008. The United Kingdoms contribution is £116
million, including a supplementary payment of £6 million. The UK
contributed 4.8 per cent. of the replenishment in 2001 and increased
that to 6 per cent. in 2005, with a further supplementary contribution
offered, subject to agreed institutional
reform.
Mr.
Peter Bone (Wellingborough) (Con): The Minister is talking
of the funding being in US dollars and our contribution being in pounds
sterling. With the huge variation in the exchange rate, will that still
be fixed in pounds, or will it adjust because of the exchange
rate?
Mr.
Lewis: I think that our contribution will continue to be
in poundsI shall go on to talk about thisso it will not
be affected by that, although the hon. Gentleman raises an important
issue.
I
was talking about the institutional reforms that we said we wanted to
see happen in 2001. Those reforms were better management for results, a
focus on areas of strength such as infrastructure, and institutional
changes in evaluation and human resource management. The president of
the bank at that time committed the bank to the reforms, but by 2007 we
felt that progress had been too slow and we decided not to proceed with
our supplementary payment. The UK therefore provided only the 6 per
cent. share of the
replenishment.
For
this replenishment, we chose to revert to the core funding at 4.8 per
cent., but there has been significant reform progress since then, so we
are also offering a supplementary contribution based on specific
progress on the important issue of gender equality. Senior management
in the ADB have welcomed that approach. The Department for
International Developments contribution will ensure a higher
profile for gender equality in the banks
work.
We
set out clear objectives for negotiations during this replenishment,
including the agreement of a framework for results and greater focus on
regional co-operation. Our objectives were achieved and, in addition,
the bank will transfer $1.7 billion from its capital resources to the
fund. That will help to provide more support for the poorest countries
in the
region.
Another
priority objective was the agreement to set aside $1 billion for an
infrastructure programme for Afghanistan, which I am sure will be
welcomed by members of the Committee from all parties. The fund is
co-ordinating well with the Afghanistan national development strategy,
which focuses on infrastructure that is vital to economic growth and is
also a major driver of poverty reduction. DFID is working with the fund
to make good use of these resources and we are co-financing two
infrastructure projects in Helmand
province.
A
total of £6 million of our contribution will be a supplementary
payment based on good performance by the bank on gender equality.
Gender equality is a priority for both DFID and the bank, but a lot
more work is needed to bring tangible progress. Empowering women and
girls in the Asia and Pacific region is vital for sustained poverty
reduction and also for the achievement of the millennium development
goals. Women have less access to education, health care and economic
and
political participation. Female child mortality is higher. If action is
not taken soon, the future economic growth of the region will
undoubtedly be threatened. It is estimated that up to $77 billion a
year is lost through the gaps in education and womens access to
employment opportunities.
So we have
agreed with the bank that £6 million of our contribution will be
contingent on progress being made on gender equality. We will use two
indicators to judge that progress. First, there will be annual
performance reviews on progress against action plan targets, which will
be designed to demonstrate real impact at the sharp end on the ground.
Secondly, we will look at the number and skills of gender specialists,
particularly those based in country offices. That will provide evidence
that the ADB is extending the reach of gender work institutionally
within the
bank.
To
conclude, we want the bank to remain a vital part of the development
effort in the region and we believe that it is taking the right reform
steps towards making itself an integral part of that regional
development.
I
commend the order to the
Committee.
4.37
pm
Mr.
Mark Lancaster (North-East Milton Keynes) (Con): It is a
pleasure to be able to contribute to the debate, Mr. Betts.
The draft order is the third such instrument, with the House having
debated the replenishments for the African Development Bank and the
World Bank shortly before Christmas last year. In one respect, however,
there is a stark contrast between the previous two orders and the one
before us today. Given that it would appear to be a strategy of the
Department for International Development to increase the funding via
regional development banks and indeed the World Bank, when we look at
the order it is interesting to see almost no increase in funding for
the Asian Development Bank, and I want gently to explore the reasons
for that.
The draft
order stands in marked contrast to a press release on 27 November 2007,
in which the Secretary of State was keen to announce a doubling of UK
funding support for the African Development Bank, up to a total of
£417 million; and to the announcement on 31 March of
the increase in the contribution to the World Bank, which would go up
to a total of about £1,330 million, representing a 59
per cent. increase on the previous replenishment round. To see that the
contribution to the Asian Development Bank is to increase by just a
couple of million pounds, I believe, in real terms over four
yearsit is almost a decrease in fundingtherefore
prompts some questions. So, as I said, I would like to explore why some
development banks seem to be eligible for a doubling of funds while the
contribution to the Asian Development Bank seems to be pretty
static.
Given our
commitment to increase our funding to 0.7 per cent. of gross
national income by 2013, why has the Asian Development Bank apparently
done so poorly compared with the other regional banks? This does not
really demonstrate that we have the same degree of confidence in the
Asian Development Bank as we have in the other regional banks. As well
as responding to that point, will the Minister confirm to what
percentage of DFIDs budget the ninth replenishment equates?
Has that percentage increased or decreased since the eighth
replenishment? I am really trying to underline the fact that our
overall commitment from the Department to the Asian Development Bank is
decreasing and not increasing.
With the
replenishment of the African Development Bank, the Government were keen
to trumpet the fact that they were doubling the contribution. Why have
we heard so little about the Asian Development Bank replenishment? Is
it because we are less keen to encourage others to increase funding?
Why is this package less than generous, compared with our approach to
other banks? How will the contribution be payable? Will it be annually?
When I was at the World Bank recently for a week, the Bank confirmed
that it offers discounts to donor nations if they pay up front. Have we
considered paying up front, or will the Treasury not allow
it?
This
might be a small technical point, but the explanatory notes clearly
state that no impact assessment has been produced for the instrument,
as there is no impact on the private or voluntary sectors. I am sure
that many NGOs would disagree: the funding that is being allocated to
the Asian Development Bank from the budget has an indirect impact on
funding that may or may not go to NGOs. Was an impact assessment done
for the last replenishment, the eighth
one?
Looking
at the breakdown of the replenishment, will the Minister tell us what
the breakdown of core and supplementary funding was in the eighth
replenishment? He said in his statement that not all the supplementary
funds for the last round were paid because some of the criteria were
not met. Did we not learn any lessons from that? Surely a higher
percentage of the funding provided by the draft order should depend on
conditions being met, rather than the bulk of it being core funding.
Given that the Asian Development Bank has a history of failing to meet
some of our terms and conditions, why did we not adjust the terms this
time to ensure that they were conditional? Is there any monitoring of
the core contribution of £109,845,000, or do we concern
ourselves with conditions only for the supplementary
contribution?
The
Minister said that the supplementary contribution will depend on the
banks gender action plan, yet, interestingly, the message from
the president and chairman of the board of directors, towards the front
of the Asian Development Banks 2008 annual report, states
that
the
launch of ADBs long-term strategic framework 2008-2020
(Strategy 2020), clarified our priorities. Strategy 2020 sets a
strategic direction for ADB, with a clearer focus on poverty reduction
through inclusive growth, environmentally sustainable growth, and
regional integration. Strategy 2020 further focuses our operations in
the five core areas of infrastructure, environment, regional
cooperation and integration, finance sector development, and
education.
There
is no mention of the banks gender action plan as a priority.
Why has the Ministers Department decided to focus on that, when
it is not part of the banks
priorities?
On
strategy, what assessment has the Minister made of the banks
ability to deal with the current economic crisis in Asia? As I said,
about three weeks ago I spent a week at the World Bank. I learned that
it was very concerned that it would be overwhelmed by some developing
countries and recipients which had not fully
recognised the impact the economic crisis would have on them. Is the
Asian Development Bank in a similar position, and if so, how will we
accommodate
that?
The
Minister mentioned the work in Afghanistan, where DFID spends lots of
money via the World Bank and through trust funds. How is the Asian
Development Bank co-ordinating its work with the World Bank? When we
give funds to both organisations, we like to think that their work is
being co-ordinated and that British taxpayers pounds are not
being spent in both places at the same time, which may not be their
best
use.
Finally,
I wish to ask about bank reform. We are a relatively small stakeholder
in the Asian Development Bank, with 1.93 per cent. of capital, but, as
there are with other development banks, such as the African Development
Bank and the World Bank, there are concerns about bank management and
structurefor example, the role of the executive board. We form
part of a constituency with Austria, Germany, Luxembourg and Turkey,
but when we look at the make-up of the board, we see that donors
dominate it: seven of the 12 seats are occupied by donors
and five by recipients. There have been moves in the African
Development Bank to ensure greater representation by African nations.
Are there similar plans within the Asian Development Bank to ensure
that recipient nations have a greater say on the board?
Finally, I
note that the Secretary of State for International Development is the
governor, and that the alternative governor is the other
Under-Secretary of State at the Department, the hon. Member for
Worcester (Mr. Foster), not the hon. Member for Bury, South.
Given that we are giving such a large replenishment in this round, may
I ask when the governor or the alternative governor last attended a
bank
meeting?
4.46
pm
Mr.
Michael Moore (Berwickshire, Roxburgh and Selkirk) (LD): I
share the Ministers analysis of how difficult things are in the
developing world. He was right to highlight the pressing problems faced
by so many countries, not only those on which the order focuses, but
right across his brief. Recognising that fact, I hope that we might
before too long have a debate on the Floor of the House on all the
issues in the round and on how the Government are responding to them,
not least because we are in the aftermath of the G20 summit, where many
pledges were made and issues raised that the House has not yet had a
chance to debate fully, other than through occasional questions at
departmental questions every five weeks or so.
The scale of
the collapse of private capital flows is absolutely staggering, and the
Institute of International Finance has recently estimated that the full
amount of flow this year will be around $165 billion, down from its
peak of $929 billion in 2007. Any collection of economies would be
doing very well indeed to cope with that scale of retrenchment, over
which they have little control, whether through direct private
investment, trade flows or, particularly, remittances, which are of
huge importance to many countries in the region and elsewhere in the
developing
world.
The
order understandably focuses on the four-yearly replenishment of
Britains share of that sum of money. If I have read the order
correctly, the resolution of the
bank to which it relates dates back to August last year, which was
perhaps before the full scale of the financial tsunami was
understoodindeed, we might not fully understand it yet. Clearly
there was substantial discussion on that topic at the G20 summit.
Looking at statements and press reports made during the summit, one
quote stood out. Reuters
reported:
The
Asian Development Bank should immediately proceed with a substantial
general capital increase of 200 percent or $100
billion.
Can the Minister state
how that pledge, which we are presumably signed up to, fits with the
order, what he estimates our share of the replenishment will be, and
what the time scale will be for the contribution? That clearly stands
to dwarf the £116 million that we are talking about, and it
would be useful to understand what is involved.
When we last
debated the issue on the Floor of the House, the Government quite
properly focused on transparency. I recognise, as does the Minister,
the need to ensure that British taxpayers money, when spent
overseas, is spent in a transparent and accountable manner. I also
share his analysis that international development is about not only our
duties but our self-interest. We need collectively to make that
argument as strongly as possible.
The Minister
also highlighted some of the Governments concerns about how the
bank has acted in previous years, and the hon. Member for North-East
Milton Keynes asked some important questions about the reassurances
that the Government have received. How is the situation going to be
monitored on an ongoing basis? In recent years, the Department has had
to come to terms with an expanding budget and a decreasing and
extremely stretched work
force.
The
answer to the question about how often the governor and his alternate
have attended board meetings will be interesting. In their absence,
there is presumably a squad of people doing many different things in
the Department for International Development, but they also have to
work on the issue under discussion. How many people does that involve
and what is their seniority? Furthermore, how actively are they able to
engage in the oversight of this particular public investment? Writing
big cheques to international institutions may salve our obligations,
but it does not necessarily deal with the core issue, and it certainly
does not tie in with the Ministers important points about
conditionality, which I endorse. The issue is difficult and complex,
but I hope that, despite the ever-growing sums of money involved, we
are not losing sight of the need to ensure that the money is being put
to the right
purposes.
4.51
pm
Kate
Hoey (Vauxhall) (Lab): When one hears other
Members questions, one starts to think about ones own.
I look forward to the Ministers response to the contributions
made by the hon. Members for North-East Milton Keynes and for
Berwickshire, Roxburgh and Selkirk, but I also wish to make a couple of
points.
The
Asian development fund is a bit technical, and the explanatory
memorandum notes that the purpose of the Asian Development Bank
is
to
foster economic growth and co-operation in the region of Asia and the
Pacific.
Will the Minister
clarify exactly which countries are covered by that? In other
wordsother members of the Committee may know thishow
many countries are there in
Asia?
Furthermore,
is any of the money linked to good governance, and is the UK absolutely
clear that money is not going to countries where human rights abuses
take place? Abuses in countries such as China, for example, are so
appalling that most of my constituents would not want to give such
countries a penny. I will be interested to hear the response to the
last point made by the hon. Member for Berwickshire, Roxburgh and
Selkirk about whether we are clear as to how the money is being spent
and monitored, and whether we are absolutely sure in this time of
economic recession that this is the best way to give a substantial
amount of money to one region of the
world.
4.53
pm