The
Committee consisted of the following
Members:
Chairman:
Mr.
Gary Streeter
Blackman,
Liz
(Erewash) (Lab)
Brake,
Tom
(Carshalton and Wallington)
(LD)
Brokenshire,
James
(Hornchurch)
(Con)
Burns,
Mr. Simon
(West Chelmsford)
(Con)
Curry,
Mr. David
(Skipton and Ripon)
(Con)
Hewitt,
Ms Patricia
(Leicester, West)
(Lab)
Huhne,
Chris
(Eastleigh)
(LD)
Kirkbride,
Miss Julie
(Bromsgrove)
(Con)
McCabe,
Steve
(Lord Commissioner of Her Majesty's
Treasury)
Murphy,
Mr. Paul
(Torfaen)
(Lab)
Purnell,
James
(Stalybridge and Hyde)
(Lab)
Sharma,
Mr. Virendra
(Ealing, Southall)
(Lab)
Singh,
Mr. Marsha
(Bradford, West)
(Lab)
Stuart,
Mr. Graham
(Beverley and Holderness)
(Con)
Ussher,
Kitty
(Burnley)
(Lab)
Woolas,
Mr. Phil
(Minister for Borders and
Immigration)Liam Laurence
Smyth, Committee Clerk
attended the Committee
Tenth
Delegated Legislation
Committee
Wednesday 1
July
2009
[Mr.
Gary Streeter in the
Chair]
Draft
Identity Cards Act 2006 (Fees) Regulations
2009
2.30
pm
The
Minister for Borders and Immigration (Mr. Phil
Woolas): I beg to
move,
That
the Committee has considered the draft Identity Cards Act 2006 (Fees)
Regulations
2009.
The
Chairman: With this it will be convenient to consider the
draft Identity Cards Act 2006 (Information and Code of Practice on
Penalties) Order 2009 and the draft Identity Cards Act 2006 (Provision
of Information without Consent) Regulations
2009.
Mr.
Woolas: Thank you, Mr. Streeter. It is a
pleasure to be here this afternoon under your chairmanship. I shall
attempt to make sure that the business of the Committee is dealt with
efficiently. It is, of course, my duty to read into the record the
Governments proposals in order to avoid doubt and for the
benefit of potential legal action, should there be anynot that
I expect
any.
For
the benefit of Members, we are discussing three statutory instruments
plus the explanatory memorandum. I would also draw the
Committees attention to the draft code of practice on civil
penalties, which is also pertinent to this
debate.
The
statutory instruments set out some of the detail of the arrangements
that are needed for the introduction of identity cards as part of the
national identity service. The programme we are embarking on will
provide an important service to the public. As we are discussing three
separate statutory instruments this afternoon, I hope that the
Committee will bear with me if I take a little time to explain their
purpose and to draw attention to the changes announced yesterday by my
right hon. Friend the Home Secretary in his written statement to the
House.
We
have laid before the House a package of six separate affirmative
statutory instruments, three of which we are discussing this afternoon.
The Home Secretary made it clear yesterday that holding an identity
card should be as much a personal choice for British citizens as it is
now to obtain a passport. Identity cards will help to deliver enhanced
security in the airside pass-issuing process at airports by making it
easier and more certain to verify an individuals identity. In
consultation with airport operators, we will be encouraging anyone
applying for an airside pass to also obtain an identity card. However,
we have listened to what the trade unions, the airline operators and
others in the aviation sector have had to say about the plans and as a
result we will now seek to achieve our aims by inviting applications to
be made on a voluntary basis. The Government will therefore be
withdrawing the sixth of these statutory instruments,
the Identity Cards Act 2006 (Designation) Order 2009, which was laid
before Parliament on 6 May this year. That would have made it a
requirement for anyone applying for a criminal conviction certificate
as part of the process for obtaining an airside pass to access the
restricted area at a specified airport also to obtain an identity
card.
James
Brokenshire (Hornchurch) (Con): I thank the Minister for
this introduction and, obviously, the reversal in approach and policy
that has now been taken in relation to identity cards. I wonder whether
the Minister could confirm what level of take-up of identity cards he
is expecting from airside workers now that it is on a voluntary
basis.
Mr.
Woolas: I shall be coming to that point later on, but I
suspect that the sensible members of the GMB union, Unite and others
will wish to take advantage of this service. I shall go on to discuss
the two airports that will be involved in this process: Manchester
airportthe finest airport on Planet Earthand City of
London airport, one of the finest airports in the world. I will come
back to the hon. Gentlemans specific point, if I may, later
on.
As
I was saying, since November 2008 we have been issuing identity cards
to foreign nationals in the form of biometric immigration documents
issued under the UK Borders Act 2007. We are now looking at how to
speed up the roll-out of these cards to foreign nationals, including to
foreign national airside workers. We need these statutory instruments
to be approved and put in place before the first identity cards are
introduced for British citizens and European economic area nationals in
the autumn of this year.
The national
identity service is a major undertaking, which will eventually provide
us all with a secure and reliable means of proving identity whenever we
wish to do so. Cards in a credit card-sized format, at an initial fee
of £30, will provide a much more convenient proof of identity
than existing identity documents. There will be significant benefits
for individuals in holding an identity card which will become the most
convenient, secure and affordable way of asserting identity in everyday
life. The cards will also be valid for travel throughout Europe, in
place of a British passport.
Later this
year through a phased commencement of the provisions of the Act, we
will start to issue voluntary ID cards to airside workers at Manchester
and London City airports, where identifying people to the best possible
standardwho are applying to work in a critical area of
employment with access to the airports secure restricted
zoneis of vital importance. The cards will also make life more
convenient for ordinary people. We will be introducing the cards on an
entirely voluntary basis to people resident in Greater Manchester, also
starting this autumn. This will help make life easier for ordinary
people, who will be able to obtain a fingerprint biometric identity
card valid for travel in Europe at the cost of £30, compared
with the current standard passport fee of £72. Introducing the
cards will involve the recording of fingerprint as well as facial image
biometrics. These will link the holder reliably to their identity.
Information for everyone issued with an ID card will then be held
securely on the national identity register.
Of course, we
intend to phase in the cards to ensure we can make improvements from
the early stages of the programme and also to make sure we reduce the
risk from a big bang implementation, if I may put it
that way. This will include the extension of identity card enrolment to
other Identity and Passport Service offices in north-west England. We
are also looking at options which could allow elderly
peopleaged 75 and overto receive an identity card free
of charge. I am especially grateful to my hon. Friend the Member for
Bradford, West for his suggestions in this area. From 2012 we will move
on to issue identity cards in high volumes, so that everyone aged 16
and over applying for a passport should be offered the choice of being
issued with a separate biometric identity card or a biometric passport,
or both. We currently issue over 5 million passports each
year.
I shall now
address the specifics of the SIs before us, the first of which is the
draft Identity Cards Act 2006 (Fees) Regulations 2009. They outline the
fees and fee exemptions to be introduced. The regulations establish
that the total fee when applying for the issue of a first, or
replacement ID card will be £30 and not, as some would have us
believe, as much as £300. The regulations deliver on the
Governments commitment made during the passage of the Identity
Cards Act 2006 that we intended the initial fee for a stand-alone ID
card to be no more than £30.
James
Brokenshire: On the £30 fee, can the Minister
confirm that it actually represents the cost, or what the level of
discount might be as to the cost of issuing and processing an ID card?
In other words, is this the true value of issuing an ID card or is
there a discount that has been applied in arriving at that
charge?
Mr.
Woolas: That depends on how many are issued. It is called
marginal cost. It is not possible to determine the cost. The first one,
if you base it on the marginal cost, is very expensive indeed. The
millionth is very cheap. The average across that depends on how many
are issued. The policy is based on a cost
recovery.
James
Brokenshire: I assume therefore that the Minister in his
costings will have come up with what might be described in business
terms as a break-even figure. Could he give the Committee any
indication of what that number might
be?
Mr.
Woolas: The issue of costs is complex and there has been a
lot written about it, not much of it accurate. The costs also relate to
the passport service, and one must compare the take-up of ID cards for
the purposes of European travel with the impact on passports. That is
what we are working through. If the hon. Gentleman will bear with me, I
will come to that point.
Mr.
Graham Stuart (Beverley and Holderness) (Con): The
Treasury will have worked out how many cards it expects to be
issuedI think that is how government normally worksso
there will be an assumption of the cost. The Treasury tends not to
issue ranges but to pick a figure, so the Minister must be aware what
the cost will be for the expected number that will be
issued. It would be quite proper for him to share that with the
House.
Mr.
Woolas: The hon. Gentleman suggests that the Treasury
picks a specific cost figure, but my experience is that it picks a
range. If the Committee will bear with me, the answers to those
questions will come out. I think I am joined by experience on this
matter, and I am also a Treasury Minister because of my customs
functions.
The
regulations therefore deliver on the Governments commitment,
made during the passage of the 2006 Act, for the initial fee for a
stand-alone card to be no more than £30. That compares well with
the cost of the passport, which is currently £72. Our commitment
is that the £30 fee will apply not only in 2009, but will remain
at that level for 2010.
Tom
Brake (Carshalton and Wallington) (LD): I do hope we get
an answer to the question of how much the taxpayer will be subsidising
ID cards by. Is the Minister considering introducing any incentives for
people to take up ID cards, such as a buy-one-get-one free
scheme?
Mr.
Woolas: That is the single transferable card,
isnt it?
I shall pause
to help the Committee with the figures. Much has been written on the
matter, most recently in correspondence with the Conservative shadow
Home Secretary, the hon. Member for Epsom and Ewell (Chris Grayling).
When we published the proposals and the secondary legislation, we
published the impact assessment. The latter made it clear that once the
national identity service is fully rolled outthat will take
more than 30 yearsthere will be an estimated net
economic benefit of some £6 billion, because there are savings
in other areas. The accusation that the identity card costs money is
often made, but in fact there is a net benefit because of the
roll-over.
The
current card production contract has capacity for at least a quarter of
a million cards per year in its first phase. The £4.945 billion
figure in the May 2009 cost report is the total resource costs of
providing passports and identity cards to British and Irish citizens
resident in the UK, from April 2009 to April 2019. That figure
comprises £245 million of set-up coststhe hon. Member
for Hornchurch asked about the marginal costsand £4.7
billion of operational costs. That is the cost of the passport and the
ID card, which are of course part of the same project.
The total
cost estimates can also be analysed between those specifically relating
to the passport and those specifically relating to the ID card. Those
are the common costs. The total common passport and ID card cost is
£2.625 million. The passport specific cost is
£1,010 million and the ID card specific cost
£1,310 million. That is based on the current contract. The fee
that we have set is based on the same policy principle as the passport
service.
The
regulations establish a number of exemptions to the fee. The first
relates to identity cards issued to airside workers at the two
airports. The introduction of identity cards to critical workers as
part of the airside pass checking regime will improve the robustness of
existing identity checks, will provide better identity assurance of
those working in sensitive locationsincluding the recording of
fingerprint biometricsand will be used to help improve the
current airside pass-issuing system. We have been working closely with
the airport
authorities at Manchester and London City to maximise the benefits. We
will also review and evaluate jointly with them over the first 18
months of the scheme for airside workers at those two airports. That is
an important commitment that my right hon. Friend the Home Secretary
has made.
As part of
the evaluation, we have decided that the fee for an ID card should be
waived for anyone who is issued with a card and who needs to hold an
airside pass at the two airports. Once the 18-month evaluation period
is complete, we will review the waiver again in light of the results of
that evaluation. We will then be in a position to take wider decisions
on the future level of fees for passports and ID
cards.
The
second exemption will make provision for a replacement card to be
issued free of charge if an applicant has been issued with a card that
was faulty by virtue of a defect in the issue, or damaged before issue
to the applicant. It seems only fair that that is the case. Of course,
we intend all the cards that we issue to be of the highest quality, but
it is important to ensure that we do not have to charge for a card if,
for any reason, there was a manufacturing fault, not the fault of the
individual.
The third and
final exemption will address what could be described as a legal
technicality. While the applicant will make just one application for
their ID card, the Identity Cards Act treats it as two applications,
one for registration on the national identity register, and the other
for the issue of the ID card. For such applications, the regulations
provide that there is a single fee of £30 for the application to
be entered in the register, and there is therefore no separate
£30 fee for the ID card itself. Hence, the total fee remains at
£30. I am grateful for the patience of the Committee in allowing
me to read that into the
record.