The
Committee consisted of the following
Members:
Chairman:
Mr.
Martyn Jones
Bellingham,
Mr. Henry
(North-West Norfolk)
(Con)
Brooke,
Annette
(Mid-Dorset and North Poole)
(LD)
Foster,
Michael Jabez
(Hastings and Rye)
(Lab)
Gardiner,
Barry
(Brent, North)
(Lab)
Gray,
Mr. James
(North Wiltshire)
(Con)
Hesford,
Stephen
(Wirral, West)
(Lab)
Hill,
Keith
(Streatham)
(Lab)
Howell,
John
(Henley) (Con)
Kramer,
Susan
(Richmond Park)
(LD)
Lucas,
Ian
(Wrexham) (Lab)
McGuire,
Mrs. Anne
(Stirling)
(Lab)
Malins,
Mr. Humfrey
(Woking)
(Con)
Plaskitt,
Mr. James
(Warwick and Leamington)
(Lab)
Prentice,
Bridget
(Parliamentary Under-Secretary of State for
Justice)
Slaughter,
Mr. Andy
(Ealing, Acton and Shepherd's Bush)
(Lab)
Wright,
Jeremy
(Rugby and Kenilworth)
(Con)
Eliot Wilson, Committee
Clerk
attended the
Committee
Sixth
Delegated Legislation
Committee
Wednesday
11 March
2009
[Mr.
Martyn Jones in the
Chair]
Tribunal
Procedure (First-tier Tribunal) (Health, Education and Social Care
Chamber) Rules
2008
2.30
pm
Mr.
Henry Bellingham (North-West Norfolk) (Con): I beg to
move,
That
the Committee has considered the Tribunal Procedure (First-tier
Tribunal) (Health, Education and Social Care Chamber) Rules 2008 (S.I.
2008, No.
2699).
A
warm welcome to you, Mr. Jones. It is a pleasure to serve
under your chairmanship. We supported the principle of the Tribunals,
Courts and Enforcement Act 2007, as we did the Leggatt report that
recommended the modernisation of the whole tribunal system. In fact,
the various regulatory impact assessments all concluded that it would
be far more efficient if the different tribunals covering different
Departments were all moved into one unified system. Thus, the different
tribunal functions listed under schedule 6 of the 2007 Act were
transferred to two new tribunalsthe first-tier and the upper
tribunal, which were then organised into different
chambers.
Obviously,
the chambers must have written rules, hence the Tribunal Procedure
Committee. It is an absolutely crucial body, because it actually
produces the rules. As hon. Members will be aware, schedule 5(28) of
the Act requires the committee to consult before it makes rules. I want
to know from the Minister what consultation has taken place. There is a
mention of it in the explanatory memorandum. However, concerns have
been voiced by several different parties, and we are worried, Dr.
Jones, that paragraph 24(2) of schedule 7 of the Act disapplies the
requirement to consult the administration, justice and tribunal council
prior to the making or approving of rules, when the rules are made by
the Tribunal Procedure
Committee.
We
expressed worry about that particular disapplication at the time of the
enactment of the Tribunals, Courts and Enforcement Bill, and I should
be grateful if the Minister said whether she shares our concern that
the provision takes that important council out of the process. I accept
that the administration, justice and tribunal council is represented on
the committee, but we do not consider that that is necessarily good
enough.
Dr.
Jones, I come now to one of the important points that do not refer
directly to our discussions this afternoon. The Government consulted
widely about the new rules of the different chambers. We are pleased to
be able to support the Government and know that they listened to the
views of the armed forces lobby, which pressed hard to have a separate
war pensions and armed forces compensation chamber. Such a request was
agreed and, although it not relevant to L.16this
statutory
instrumentit is relevant to the explanatory memorandum that
accompanies it. Members will note that that refers to
the
Tribunal
Procedure (First-tier Tribunal) (War Pensions and Armed Forces
Compensation Chamber)
(Rules).
We
were interested in the consultation that took place, and we supported
the armed forces lobby in its representations, which have resulted in
the Governments coming up with significant initiatives to
satisfy the worries that were expressed to
them.
Will
the Minister explain what discussions have taken place with the special
educational needs lobby? That lobby is obviously concerned about
parents of children who might have special learning difficulties, who
feel that they are not receiving the support that they need under the
education system. Time and again, all of us see parents at our
surgeries who say that they are incredibly worried about being let down
by their children not receiving enough speech therapy, help or
one-to-one assistance.
What
representations has the hon. Lady received from the educational
psychologist lobby and the speech and language lobby? What
representations has she received from the Dyspraxia Foundation and
Autism Independent UK, and what was the nature of those
representations? Did those organisations express concerns about some of
the rules? We are concerned about the way in which the new rules will
act against the interests of families. I am referring here to families
who do their best to help their children, who may be on the autistic
spectrum, and who have to go to a tribunal to get the help that they
need. For their sake, the whole tribunal process has to be as
user-friendly as
possible.
I
should like to ask the Minister some specific questions. First, rule 8
involves the tribunal striking out a case in very limited
circumstances. Such circumstances are considerably more limited than
those under the tribunals current powers under regulation 42. I
note that rule 5 provides the power for dismissal if there is no
reasonable prospect of success. The current power to strike out for
want of jurisdiction and on the ground of relocation would make more
sense.
Secondly,
the current rules provide for costs to be awarded in cases in which
there have been wholly unreasonable circumstances or behaviour on the
part of an applicant. That may be appropriate to the inquisitorial
special educational needs tribunal system, but that new rule has been
changed to unreasonably. That may lead to many more
applications for costs. The current stringent caveat should be put back
into this particular rule, so that both parents and local authorities
can make timeous concessions in appropriate cases without fear of costs
being at
issue.
The
system works very well at present. Potentially, cost awards could put
off parents from bringing claims or local authorities from conceding at
a late stage in proceedings. I do not see any reason to change
it.
Thirdly,
the new additional case management powers in rule 5 are unclear.
Concerns have been raised about how they will work given the current
timetabling and administration of appeals. Based on the 20-week time
scale suggested, the case management conference would be at
approximately week 10, and all evidence would have to be filed by week
16, with a hearing in week 18. Receiving the paperwork only two weeks
before the
hearing is likely to cause immense difficulties to parents and will
inevitably cause more adjournments to seek further information and
evidence. That is inefficient and unfair on the families involved.
Furthermore, given the potential need to obtain permission before
supplying evidence, it may well be extremely difficult to obtain and
file such evidence within the relatively tight time scale between the
case management conference and the hearingif the timetable is
aiming for a resolution within 20 weeks.
Fourthly,
introducing a formal case management stage with a hearing, even by
telephone, will also lead to more complexity and a further layer of
legal complications with significant cost implications if it is
properly administered.
Fifthly, rule
21(1) introduces new rules about the provision of expert evidence. In
particular, it introduces a concept of the provision of a single joint
expert. There will be a number of difficulties in implementing the new
provision. It is unlikely in most special educational needs and
disability tribunal appeals that the parties would wish to have a
single joint expert. Moreover, there are likely to be major disputes
about who would be a suitable joint expert. Unlike in normal civil
litigation, in which both sides obtain evidence from independent
experts, local authorities in such tribunals will normally obtain
expert evidence from their own employees. I submit to the Committee
that parents will not be very happy if they have to appoint a local
authority expert who is an employee of the very council that is not
giving them the help that they need, such as one-to-one assistance for
their child at school. In such circumstances, it will not matter how
good that expert is.
Sixthly, the
current relaxation of the two-witness rule, as envisaged by rule
21(1)(d) of the draft rules, will make hearings lengthier and more
complicated. It has been suggested that the number of witnesses each
party may call should be limited to three. In specific cases the case
management conference process can consider the need for additional
witnesses, but we feel that that might militate against families. For
example, if the local authority wants to call several witnesses, the
current procedure is that they will call the same number of witnesses,
and I think that we will end up with inequality of arms, as we lawyers
sometimes like to describe it.
We have heard
substantial misgivings about the new review appeal procedure, rule 33,
which I believe is unnecessarily lengthy and confusing. There is no
need for a combined right of review/appeal, which could involve the
parent or authority having to go for a review and then obtain
permission to appealpotentially to both the lower and upper
tribunaland then a substantive appeal. That could take much
longer than either the current review or appeal procedures. It must be
remembered that appeals to the administrative court can be heard within
a very short time. In fact, one of the plus points of how the current
system of administrative courts works is that, despite the fact that
the tribunals are spread across different Departments and arguably
incur additional costs and extra bureaucracy, the courts hear those
appeals very quickly indeed.
Before the
Committee opened its deliberations, my hon. Friend the Member for
Woking and I were discussing our concern that the dual procedure might
be confusing to unrepresented parties. Of course, many of those parties
who will be unrepresented will be people who
cannot afford legal help and cannot get legal aid, and I have had many
constituency cases in which parents have told me that they felt
absolutely desperate because they could not afford legal help and had
to go before the tribunal in person. The least that they could hope and
pray for was that the rules would be sympathetic and easily understood,
and I submit that they will be potentially very
confusing.
What
will the position be with regard to public funding, as it is not clear
whether such funding will continue for appeals to the upper tribunal? I
hope that the Minister will look at that. We support the principle
behind the changes that have been made, and it would be wholly
inappropriate for me to do anything other than support the Government,
because the official Opposition supported the Tribunals, Courts and
Enforcement Bill as it went through Parliament and made many
constructive suggestions in Committee that led to changes to it.
Several additional changes were made in the other place, and we ended
up with a better Act. That Act, which has led to a once in a
generation, fundamental reform of the tribunal system, made a lot of
sense. The main part of the judicial system with which the majority of
our constituents will probably have to interface, unless they happen to
have run up fines for motoring offences or do not pay their bills, is
the tribunal system. Making it friendlier, having professional judges
within the chambers who can move between different chambers and
producing that flexibility makes a great deal of sense, so we supported
that.
However, it
is important that the rules be kept as simple as possible and, above
all else, allow for equality of arms, because many of the families and
individuals appearing before these tribunals, particularly the special
educational needs tribunals, will be applicants in person. We submit
that those rules are weighed too heavily against those families and our
constituents, and that is why we were keen to ensure that this was
debated properly. That is why we are not prepared to support the rules
as they stand, and I look forward to what the Minister will say. We
will be constructive and support the principle behind the 2007 Act, and
it is important to put on the record that most of the rules and changes
that have been made have been widely welcomed. These rules have not
been welcomed, and I certainly urge the Minister to do all she can to
answer the constructive criticisms and points we have
made.
The
Chairman: Mr. Bellingham kindly awarded
me a doctorate during his speech, but I am actually just Mr.
Jones.
2.45
pm
The
Parliamentary Under-Secretary of State for Justice (Bridget
Prentice): It is a delight to serve under your
chairmanship, Mr. Jones. You should have been awarded a
doctorate. Feel free to have one from the
Committee.
The
hon. Member for North-West Norfolk has made an important point on
behalf of the parents of children with special educational needs who
have concerns about the changes in the tribunal system. I hope that I
can reassure both him and them that the changes we have made will
benefit rather than disadvantage them. I am grateful that he said on
more than one occasion that he and his party support the principle of
the changes in the
structure of the tribunal system. Tribunals play a critical role in
ensuring that the decisions made by Government and other public bodies,
which directly affect the interests of people, are legal, fair and
appropriate. I doubt that any of us can think of a case more important
than that of a child with special educational
needs.
The
hon. Gentleman felt that we had not recognised the particular
requirements of parents and children with special educational needs.
Parents who are frustrated and anxious often quite rightly use the
tribunal system to achieve the best for their already disadvantaged
child. I will try to address the specific concerns that he has raised.
The Committee will be pleased to know that I will not give a long
lecture on the reforms to the tribunal system. However, it is important
to note that the tribunals are part of a structured reform, which means
that they are guaranteed their independence from the departments and
other public bodies that make the decisions with which they have to
deal. It is important to emphasise that. People should know that the
tribunal is not based in the department about which they are
complaining
.
Our
objective has not been about saving money or making things easier for
the Government, but genuinely improving the quality of service and
justice for the citizen. I think that all members of the Committee will
agree with that. The tribunal dealing with parents and children with
special educational needs or disabilities is an important and sensitive
one. Children need to be able to get the support that they require at
the right time and in the right environment. If a parent thinks that a
local authority is not meeting that need, they are right to look to the
tribunal to make it do
so.
Tribunals
are meant to provide a relatively informal, inexpensive and easy means
of resolving disputes. It is important to ensure that the rules are
easy to understand and that the pathways through the system are easy
for parents to use. The rules are made by the Tribunal Procedure
Committee, which is an independent body established under the
Tribunals, Courts and Enforcement Act 2007. It is chaired by a Lord
Justice of AppealLord Justice Eliasand includes
representatives from a number of organisations, including the
Administrative Justice and Tribunals Council, the Bar Pro Bono Unit and
the Free Representation Unit. The rules are made with the agreement of
the Lord Chancellor and laid before
Parliament.
The
rules were drafted with the full involvement of the special educational
needs and disability tribunals judiciary and members, and were
subject to a six-week public consultation between May and July last
year. They were also considered by representatives from various local
education authorities and by parent representative groups, such as the
National Association of Independent Schools, the Independent Panel for
Special Education Advice and the Special Educational Consortium. All of
their feedbackthe responses to the public consultation process
and letters sent to me, or other Members of Parliamentwere
taken into account by the Tribunals Procedure Committee when it drafted
the rules, and by the SENDIST judiciary, when it drafted the
accompanying practice directions.
Although the
rules cover the whole chamber, which includes the former mental health
and care standards tribunals as well as special educational needs and
disability,
we have not attempted to straitjacket the different jurisdictions into a
one-size-fits-all solution. Separate provisions apply to each
jurisdiction where it is necessary. For example, the rule that all SEND
hearings must be held in public does not apply, and it remains the norm
that, in general, those hearings are held in private.
To meet the
needs of parents and children in the best possible way, the rules
provide the tribunal with powers to hear cases promptly and justly,
while ensuring that it can continue to be accessible and informal. One
of the changes that has given rise to some concern is the new case
management system. Some have suggested that it will make the tribunal
more complex and more legalistic, and that therefore it will be more
difficult for parents to navigate the system. However, although case
management is a new feature for SENDIST, it is common in every other
jurisdiction. Representatives from voluntary sector groups have
provided advice and assistance to parents and have had an input into
the design of the case management process so that it will ensure that
the final hearing can proceed without cancellation, delay or
adjournment and that the matter can be determined promptly, in the best
interests of the child. I know from my constituency casework how
frustrated parents get by the length of time it takes either to try to
get the local authority to hear what they are saying to it, or to go
through the tribunal system and get a decision. More than anything
else, once they are in the system, parents want that decision to be
made as quickly and as fairly as possible.
Annette
Brooke (Mid-Dorset and North Poole) (LD): I thank the
Minister for explaining the process of consultation, although a large
number of concerns remain. There has been reference to one case being
used as a pilot. Will the Minister tell us about the outcome of the
pilot and any other pilots that are being
undertaken?