The
Committee consisted of the following
Members:
Chairman:
Mr.
Peter Atkinson
Barlow,
Ms Celia
(Hove)
(Lab)
Blizzard,
Mr. Bob
(Lord Commissioner of Her Majesty's
Treasury)Brady,
Mr. Graham
(Altrincham and Sale, West)
(Con)
Browne,
Mr. Jeremy
(Taunton)
(LD)
Cable,
Dr. Vincent
(Twickenham)
(LD)
Carswell,
Mr. Douglas
(Harwich)
(Con)
Dobbin,
Jim
(Heywood and Middleton)
(Lab/Co-op)
Duddridge,
James
(Rochford and Southend, East)
(Con)
Hoban,
Mr. Mark
(Fareham)
(Con)
Jones,
Lynne
(Birmingham, Selly Oak)
(Lab)
Keeley,
Barbara
(Worsley)
(Lab)
Liddell-Grainger,
Mr. Ian
(Bridgwater)
(Con)
Pearson,
Ian
(Economic Secretary to the
Treasury)
Skinner,
Mr. Dennis
(Bolsover)
(Lab)
Turner,
Mr. Neil
(Wigan)
(Lab)
Whitehead,
Dr. Alan
(Southampton, Test)
(Lab)
Mark Etherton, Committee
Clerk
attended the
Committee
Seventh
Delegated Legislation
Committee
Tuesday 17
March
2009
[Mr.
Peter Atkinson in the
Chair]
Banking
Act 2009 (Bank Administration) (Modification for Application to
Multiple Transfers) Regulations
2009
4.30
pm
The
Economic Secretary to the Treasury (Ian Pearson): I beg to
move,
That the
Committee has considered the Banking Act 2009 (Bank Administration)
(Modification for Application to Multiple Transfers) Regulations 2009
(S.I. 2009, No.
313).
The
Chairman: With this it will be convenient to discuss the
Banking Act 2009 (Bank Administration) (Modification for Application to
Banks in Temporary Public Ownership) Regulations 2009 (S.I. 2009,
No. 312), and the Banking Act 2009 (Parts 2 and 3
Consequential Amendments) Order 2009 (S.I. 2009, No.
317).
Ian
Pearson: It is a pleasure to serve under your
chairmanship, Mr. Atkinson, to discuss the two sets of
regulations and the consequential amendments order.
The
regulations apply the bank administration procedure set out in part 3
of the Banking Act 2009 to various scenarios. The procedure supports
the use of the property transfer resolution tools under the new special
resolution regime. That procedure may be required in the event of a
partial transfer of a banks business to a new publicly owned
company, such as a bridge bank, or to a private sector purchaser. When
a partial transfer takes place, the residual bankby definition,
it is the part left behindmay be insolvent. However, some
essential services and facilities required by the transferee to conduct
any business transferred to it may be non-transferable.
In such
circumstances, in order to ensure that the businesses transferred from
the bank can continue to be operated effectively under the provisions
of part 3 of the 2009 Act, the Bank of England may make an application
to the court for a bank administration order. Under a normal
administration, the administrator would have no obligation to provide
support services to a commercial purchaser or bridge bank, but would be
required to take actions that were in the best interests of creditors.
That could include taking immediate steps to wind up the affairs of the
company, selling its assets and distributing the proceeds to creditors.
Such actions could threaten the successful resolution of a failing bank
through a partial transfer, as it may render a bridge bank unworkable
or deter a private sector purchaser from making an
acquisition.
Crucially,
the bank administration procedure places a duty on the court-appointed
bank or the administrator of an insolvent residual bank to provide
essential services and facilities to the transferee. To that end, the
bank administrator will have unique statutory objectives, which we
discussed when the Banking Act was making its way
through the House. First, he must provide support to the commercial
purchaser or bridge bank. Secondly, he must rescue the residual bank as
a going concern or wind up its affairs in the best interests of
creditors. Once it is no longer necessary for the residual bank to
continue to provide support services, the procedure would continue in a
similar way to an ordinary administration.
The procedure
is largely based on existing insolvency provisions, specifically the
procedure of administration as set out in schedule B1 to the Insolvency
Act 1986. However, to keep down costs, maximise returns to creditors
and protect the interests of creditors by providing for a full range of
outcomes, some of the existing powers of a liquidator have been built
into the procedure.
The Banking
Act 2009 (Bank Administration) (Modification for Application to Banks
in Temporary Public Ownership) Regulations apply the bank
administration procedurethe BAPto situations in which a
bank or a bank holding company has been taken into temporary public
ownership and the Treasury later transfers some of the business to
another person, such as a private sector purchaser. In such
circumstances, the Government believe it appropriate that the Treasury
should be able to apply to the court for a bank administration order.
That will be done if, in the opinion of the Treasury, the bank from
whom the business has been transferred is, or is likely to become,
unable to pay its debts, and the residual company is required to
provide services or facilities to the
transferee.
The
Banking Act 2009 (Bank Administration) (Modification for Application to
Multiple Transfer) Regulations modify the provisions of part 3 of the
2009 Act to apply in circumstances where the Bank of England
or the Treasury transfer the property, rights and liabilities of a bank
to more than one transferee, ensuring that the provisions made for bank
administration will effectively accommodate situations where multiple
property transfers are made in respect of the business of a bank. One
example could be the transfer of a failing banks business to
different private sector purchasers, all of whom require the use of
some of the services or facilities of the residual
bank.
The
general process of bank administration set out in part 3 will work in
relation to multiple transfers in the same way as it works where a
transfer is effected by a single property transfer instrument. However,
the regulations make necessary modifications, primarily to the bank
administrators objectives and the duration of the objectives,
so that it is clear that the bank administrator is under a duty to
ensure the provision of services and facilities from the residual bank
to each of the transferees. I believe that the regulations support the
Governments policy of having a flexible special resolution
regime in place to deal effectively with the varying circumstances in
which intervention might be required to resolve a failing
bank.
Finally,
the Banking Act 2009 (Parts 2 and 3 Consequential Amendments) Order
2009 makes consequential amendments to existing legislation.
Part 2 of the order is drafted to ensure that references
within certain pieces of legislation to the insolvency of companies
also refer, where applicable, to the new insolvency procedures created
by the Banking Act 2009: the bank administration procedure, which I
have described, and the bank insolvency procedurethe modified
insolvency procedure under
part 2 of the Act designed to facilitate the Financial Services
Compensation Schemes making a fast payout to depositors in the
event of a banks insolvency. The schedule to the order contains
a list of enactments so
modified.
Part
3 of the order provides that as a consequence of bank insolvency or
bank administration, certain pieces of primary legislation are to be
read with specific modifications. For example, the order modifies the
Companies Act 2006 to allow disclosure of information by or to the
authorities under parts 2 and 3 of the 2009 Act to be
treated in the same way as disclosure in an insolvency to the
authorities under the Financial Services and Markets Act 2000 or the
Insolvency Act 1986. Part 3 also sets out textual amendments
to statutory instruments to provide for bank insolvency and bank
administration to be included alongside the references to general
insolvency proceedings within those
instruments.
The
bank administration and bank insolvency procedures have been consulted
upon and were broadly supported by stakeholders. The regulations before
us adapt the bank administration procedure to support the differing
resolution options provided for in the Act, and the order makes
consequential amendments to other legislation to ensure that the new
bank insolvency and bank administration procedures apply to relevant
legislation in a similar way to normal insolvency and administration
procedures, a move supported by stakeholders. I commend the statutory
instruments to the
Committee.
4.38
pm
Mr.
Mark Hoban (Fareham) (Con): It is a pleasure to serve
under your chairmanship this afternoon, Mr. Atkinson. The
Minister has given a full explanation of the three statutory
instruments before us, but as he is usually quite open, I am surprised
that he did not mention in his speech the fact that the Joint Committee
on Statutory Instruments rapped the Treasury over the knuckles for
defective drafting in two of them, the Banking Act 2009 (Bank
Administration) (Modification for Application to Multiple Transfers)
Regulations 2009 and the Banking Act 2009 (Bank Administration)
(Modification for Application to Banks in Temporary Public Ownership)
Regulations 2009.
The Treasury
took the rap on the knuckles with good grace, promising to amend the
regulations at the earliest possible opportunity. It would be helpful
if the Minister could explain when the amendments will be tabled. It is
not good government to pass defective statutory instruments. I wonder
whether it is a consequence of the slightly hurried way in which they
have been put together. Again, that is one of the justifications used
by the Treasury in its defence to the Select
Committee.
This
morning, when discussing another set of statutory instruments, we
touched on the need for consultation to be formal and transparent and
for the results to be reported back to Parliament and stakeholders.
What sort of consultation process was put in place for the statutory
instruments before us? The suggestion is that it was quite hurried
among a small number of stakeholders and that, because of the feedback,
changes were made quite late on in the process. Perhaps a better
thought through process would have identified the defective drafting
and other issues that could have been reflected. Will the Minister
clarify why the defective drafting happened and what will be done to
correct it?
4.40
pm
Mr.
Jeremy Browne (Taunton) (LD): Thank you, Mr.
Atkinson, for giving me an opportunity to contribute briefly to our
deliberations this afternoon. I, too, would be interested in the
Ministers response to the telling and highly relevant points
made by the hon. Member for Fareham about the Treasurys
deficiencies in introducing legislation. After all, we are in the
middle of a banking crisis presided over, at every turn, by our Prime
Minister. It is being felt around the world, but in this country more
keenly than elsewhere. It seems all the more important, therefore, that
the Treasury has a grip on the situation and conducts its business with
precision
throughout.
On
that basis, I am keen to know how durable the Minister considers these
arrangements to be, or whether Government policy, in this area, is like
a rolling maul in rugby unionconstantly going backwards,
instead of forward. There is a sense of the Government needing to make
up the regulations as events hit and impact on them, rather than taking
a more widely considered approach. In particular, I would be interested
to know how the arrangements will impact, if at all, on the growing
demand in all quarters, including by Lord Lawson, the former Chancellor
of the Exchequer, for a greater division between the retail and
investment aspects of banks. Does that have any bearing on our
deliberations this
afternoon?
4.42
pm
Ian
Pearson: I assure the hon. Member for Taunton that the
orders are not like a rolling maul in rugby union. In actual fact, the
rolling maul has gone out of fashion with the experimental rule
variations introduced this season. I hope that many of those will
change, but that our legislation will not, unless it is absolutely
necessary. As I explained when debating a related statutory instrument
earlier today, we think that it is important to have consistency and
durability. We are not seeking to chop and change the regulations all
the time. As I indicated this morning, in relation to property transfer
safeguards, it is right that the new banking liaison panel look at
those regulations in the first
instance.
The
hon. Member for Fareham made points about drafting errors and the
consultation process. He will know that, with the end of the Banking
(Special Provisions) Act 2008, there was an urgent need to enact the
Banking Act 2009 and the necessary secondary legislation in order to
provide assurances to the markets and to ensure that we have in place
the necessary range of protections to deal promptly with any failing
bank. That is why the regulations have been introduced quickly. He will
be aware that the bank administration and insolvency procedures were
consulted on extensively within the wider financial community,
including with insolvency and banking experts. The regulations make
minor modifications to the Act in circumstances that were envisaged as
a result of the Act. We therefore believe that an appropriate level of
consultation has already taken place.
The hon.
Gentleman was right to point out that the Joint Committee on Statutory
Instruments indicated that that there were errors in the explanatory
memorandum. That was submitted voluntarily. We will amend those at the
earliest opportunity. We note that the Joint Committee
agreed that those very minor errors do not call into question the
interpretation of the instruments. I hope that that provides him with
the reassurances that he
seeks.
I
am not aware that there has been any external comment with regard to
any further deficiencies in the regulations or in the order. They are
regarded as straightforward and uncontroversial. If there is any
defective drafting we will obviously seek to address
it.
Mr.
Hoban: Far be it from me to be pedantic, but the Minister
said that the errors were in the explanatory memorandum, and I do not
think they were. I think they were in the wording of the regulations
and the
order.
Ian
Pearson: I accept what the hon. Gentleman says. None the
less, the point that I am making is still valid. It does not call into
question the interpretation of the instruments that we are discussing.
It is a technical issue that we need to put right, which we will do. It
says here that
we owned up in
memo.
The Government are
fessing up to making a mistake. We have made a small technical error
for which we apologise and we will ensure that it is sorted
out.
Question
put and agreed
to.
banking
act 2009 ( bank Administration) (modification for
application to Banks in temporary public ownership)
regulations
2009
Resolved,
That
the Committee has considered the Banking Act 2009 (Bank Administration)
(Modification for Application to Banks in Temporary Public Ownership)
Regulations 2009 (S.I. 2009, No. 312).(Ian
Pearson).
banking
act 2009 (parts 2 and 3 consequential amendments) order
2009
Resolved,
That
the Committee has considered the Banking Act 2009 (Parts 2
and 3 Consequential Amendments) Order 2009 (S.I. 2009,
No. 317).(Ian
Pearson.)
4.47
pm
Committee
rose.