The
Committee consisted of the following
Members:
Ainger,
Nick
(Carmarthen, West and South Pembrokeshire)
(Lab)
Beresford,
Sir Paul
(Mole Valley)
(Con)
Cairns,
David
(Inverclyde)
(Lab)
Cunningham,
Mr. Jim
(Coventry, South)
(Lab)
Farron,
Tim
(Westmorland and Lonsdale)
(LD)
Horwood,
Martin
(Cheltenham)
(LD)
Jenkin,
Mr. Bernard
(North Essex)
(Con)
Kumar,
Dr. Ashok
(Middlesbrough, South and East Cleveland)
(Lab)
McIntosh,
Miss Anne
(Vale of York)
(Con)
Morden,
Jessica
(Newport, East)
(Lab)
Norris,
Dan
(Parliamentary Under-Secretary of State for Environment, Food
and Rural Affairs)
Redwood,
Mr. John
(Wokingham)
(Con)
Watkinson,
Angela
(Upminster)
(Con)
Whitehead,
Dr. Alan
(Southampton, Test)
(Lab)
Wood,
Mike
(Batley and Spen)
(Lab)
Wright,
David
(Telford) (Lab)
Mark
Oxborough, Committee Clerk
attended the Committee
Seventh
Delegated Legislation
Committee
Wednesday 21
October
2009
[Mr.
Joe Benton in the
Chair]
Draft
Groundwater (England and Wales) Regulations
2009
2.30
pm
The
Parliamentary Under-Secretary of State for Environment, Food and Rural
Affairs (Dan Norris): I beg to
move,
That
the Committee has considered the draft Groundwater (England and Wales)
Regulations
2009.
It
is a great honour to serve under your chairmanship, Mr.
Benton. I start by giving the apologies of the Under-Secretary of State
for Environment, Food and Rural Affairs, my hon. Friend the Member for
Ogmore (Huw Irranca-Davies), who is stuck on a motorway near Swindon
and unable to be here. I welcome the opportunity to introduce these
draft regulations, even if it is one that I was not expecting a few
moments
ago.
The
water framework directive of 2000 envisaged a new groundwater directive
to clarify the WFDs objectives for groundwater, and a new
directive was agreed in 2006 to replace the 1980 groundwater directive.
The UK aimed for simple, transparent measures to protect groundwater
from pollution, for locally determined risk-based standards and for
targeted monitoring, and aimed to avoid measures that would be
disproportionately costly in relation to the environmental benefits
achieved. I am pleased to report that potentially ineffective and
costly EU-wide standards were avoided. The impact assessment indicated
a cost-neutral outcome in relation to action already required under the
WFD.
The 2006
directive adopts existing EU values for controls over nitrates and
pesticides. It provides for member states to determine national
groundwater standards, the way in which those should be used to assess
groundwater body status, and the identification and reversal of
pollution trends. Those elements are being transposed separately as
part of the WFD implementation. The regulations before us transpose
article 6 of the directive, which makes operational the WFD objective
of preventing or limiting the input of pollutants to groundwater. It
also distinguishes the substances that are to be prevented from being
put into groundwater from those that are to be limited in groundwater.
Sensible exemptions facilitate a practicable approach.
Currently,
there are groundwater protection measures, transposed from the 1980
directive, in the Water Resources Act 1991 and the 1998 groundwater
regulations. The new regulations introduce no fundamental changes to
groundwater protection. Nevertheless, it is necessary to amend the 1998
regulations to transpose article 6 while respecting the provisions of
the 1980 directive, which remains in force until December 2013.
Consultation on transposition was completed last summer. Responses
indicated broad agreement with the proposed approach.
The
regulations are as follows. Regulation 1 deals with coming into force
and regulation 2 updates definitions. In particular, a registration or
disposal under the Radioactive Substances Act 1993 will become a permit
for groundwater purposes. The terms hazardous substance
and non-hazardous pollutant effectively replace the
list 1 and list 2 dangerous substances to be controlled. Regulation 3
explains the meaning of hazardous substance; such
substances are essentially those that are persistent, bio-accumulative
and toxic, and the prescriptive list 1 comprises a large subset of
them. Member states must identify hazardous substances, and that will
be the responsibility of the Environment Agency in England and
Wales.
Mr.
John Redwood (Wokingham) (Con): Is the Minister saying
that the list we have before us, which is not complete, could be
greatly expanded by the agency? Or is he thinking of only detailed and
minor
additions?
Dan
Norris: I think that the latter part of the right hon.
Gentlemans question is the answer. The list will undergo minor
changes but it will allow a degree of
flexibility.
Regulation
4 provides that non-hazardous pollutants cover all other pollutants.
Those new terms potentially embrace a wider range of pollutants, but in
practice the agency will identify additional substances where they are
problematic.
Sir
Paul Beresford (Mole Valley) (Con): The explanatory notes
explain that the
regulations
bring
under control previously exempted discharges of less than 2 cubic
metres per day from properties
with septic tanks. A
large proportion of my constituency is a rural area with septic tanks.
What will that mean for those
constituents?
Dan
Norris: I have a septic tank in my home. As I understand
the matter, from my briefing, the measures will make little difference
to the vast majority of people with septic tanks. Perhaps the hon.
Gentleman would like to ask me a more specific question when we come on
to that subject later. In general terms, the measures will make little
difference to them, if
any.
Miss
Anne McIntosh (Vale of York) (Con): Did the Department
ensure that householders with septic tanks, or their representatives,
were consulted? That is the category that that we have identified as
being most dramatically affected by the proposed regulations, if we set
apart the issue of radioactive and hazardous substances. I should like
assurances that those householders were directly consulted on
them.
Dan
Norris: I thank the hon. Lady for that question. If I may,
I will come back to that point once my officials have checked it. I do
not know the answer off the top of my head, and I would not want to
mislead
her.
Regulations
5 and 6 reflect the welcome fact that the 2006 directive provides for
sensible exemptions such as: unavoidable accidents; exemptions from the
need for a permit, such as very small inputs that would not affect
groundwater quality; and inputs that cannot be prevented
without risk to human health or that would involve disproportionate cost
in relation to the contaminated ground.
Under the
2006 directive, disposals of radioactive substances and discharges from
septic tanks are no longer exempt and so will now be subject to
permitting under the regulations. The controls relating to both
radioactive substances and discharges from septic tanks are expected to
enter the environmental permitting regulations in 2010. As for
discharges from septic tanks, the current exemption will be carried
over in relation to discharges that amount to less than 2 cubic metres
per day, but from 1 January 2012, it will be necessary to register such
discharges with the Environment Agency, subject to basic rules of
operation and
maintenance.
Article
6 of the 2006 directive requires us to prevent the input into
groundwater of hazardous substances and to limit the input into
groundwater of non-hazardous substances to avoid pollution. Regulations
7, 8 and 9 put that into practice, and guidance from the Department for
Environment, Food and Rural Affairs will clarify what is meant by the
requirement in regulation 8 to prevent the input of hazardous
substances. That is an important objective, but it will not always be
achievable. European Commission guidance explains that in this context,
prevention means taking all necessary and reasonable
measures; reasonable means technically feasible and
without involving disproportionate cost. In other words, we must do
whatever we can, while recognising properly the inevitable limitations
that apply to absolute
prevention.
Regulation
10 sets out the circumstances in which the agency may permit inputs of
pollutants, given a range of practical considerations. Those are
valuable exemptions that offer greater flexibility than hitherto.
Regulation 11 requires investigations to be made, and technical
precautions to be taken, to ensure that a grant of a permit is
made only in accordance with the requirements. Under
regulation 12, future reviews of permits will be carried out
as necessary, rather than on the current statutory four-yearly basis;
the regulation should thereby save resources. In practice, such reviews
will normally follow the water framework directives six-year
review cycle for the publication of river basin management
plans.
Regulation 13
carries over the offence of causing or knowingly permitting an
unauthorised discharge, which was established in the Water Resources
Act 1991 and the Groundwater Regulations 1998. As before, exceptions
are made for highway drains there are too many to permit
individuallyand for discharges of less than 2 cubic
metres a day from septic tanks. In both cases the agency may serve a
prohibition notice where problems arise. Regulation 14 carries over
relevant
defences.
Regulations
15 and 16 provide for the transfer and administration of permits, and
deal with conditions, reasons for refusal and for appeals against
refusal, and the variation or revocation of permits. Regulation 17
enables the agency to serve a notice requiring information, and
regulation 18, which is similar to current powers, enables the agency
to prohibit an activity that might lead to the input of a pollutant to
groundwater, while regulation 19 allows the right to
appeal.
Regulation
20 carries over the provision in the 1998 groundwater regulations that
allows Ministers to approve codes of good practice that give guidance
on compliance with the regulations. Such codes of practice are also to
be taken into account by the agency when serving a prohibition notice.
Regulation 21 requires the agency to record details of permits and
other details on a public
register.
Regulations
22, 23 and 24 update the standard penalties for offences, and
regulation 25 revokes the 1998 groundwater regulations. As for
regulation 26it does not exist; I am just checking whether
anyone is still listening now that I have listed all 25
regulations.
It is the
intention to consult on draft guidance to the Environment Agency once
the regulations are made. The regulations will be short-lived, in that
they will be absorbed into the proposed environmental permitting
regulations in 2010. However, the transposition date for the 2006
directive means that the regulations are required now to bridge the
gap. I commend the groundwater regulations as a good example of
successful European Union negotiations contributing to good operational
arrangements; that reflects DEFRAs approach to better
regulation.
On
the question asked by the hon. Member for Vale of York, regulations in
2008 explained that septic tank registers were exempt until 1 January
2012. Environmental permitting regulations were also consulted on in
the summer of 2009. No substantive comments were received in either
case.
The
consultation on the transposition of article 6 of the 2006 groundwater
directive, which took place in May 2008, outlined the changes to the
1998 groundwater regulations that would be necessary to accommodate the
requirements of the water framework directive and article 6 of the 2006
groundwater directive while sustaining the requirements of the 1980
groundwater directive. The consultation posed a series of questions
about the changes anticipated. The explanatory memorandum to the
regulations before us records: the main changes to groundwater controls
that are anticipated as a result of transposing the 2006 groundwater
directive; the issues on which stakeholders were asked for views; and a
summary of the 31 responses
received.
2.42
pm
Miss
McIntosh: It is a pleasure to appear under your
chairmanship, Mr. Benton, and I welcome you to the
Committee. I also welcome the Minister. We are grateful to him for
stepping into the breach. I have spoken to his hon. Friend the
Under-Secretary of State for Environment, Food and Rural Affairs, the
hon. Member for Ogmore, who alerted me to the fact that he would be
absent today. I am familiar with the way in which travelling back from
EU institutions can be
disrupted.
The
Minister is in a difficult position because the subject of the
regulations is not directly part of his brief, but our decision on
whether to allow the regulations to proceed will depend on his answers
to our questions. I am grateful for his answer to the question I put in
an intervention. We are monitoring the Department for Environment, Food
and Rural Affairs closely in relation to septic tanks, and it would be
useful to discuss the issue this afternoon.
Does DEFRA
have a dedicated unit or team to negotiate such matters, or does it
work on an ad hoc basis as EU negotiations proceed? As a former MEP, I
have first-hand experience of dealing with matters in the European
Parliament, so I am familiar with the
process there. When we were in power, the Conservatives were accused of
gold-plating directives. We should avoid gold-plating where possible,
so we need to understand how DEFRA negotiates the regulations. What is
the precise process in DEFRA for negotiating not just these
regulations, but EU regulations generally, of which there are
many?
I
listened carefully to the Ministers answer to my question, and
I am still not completely satisfied that the householders that my party
has identified would not suffer the most damage from the regulations,
were they to be passed. Like my hon. Friend the Member for Mole Valley,
I represent a deeply rural area and, although I am pleased to say that
I do not have a septic tank, I probably represent proportionally more
septic tank owners than MPs in many other parts of the country. My hon.
Friend and I therefore have an interest in that subject. My immediate
concern is that households with septic tanks will incur personal
expense as a result of the regulations. I am alarmed that there is no
mention in the explanatory memorandum of responses being received from
householders, as they will be the most directly affected, with the cost
coming out of their private household budgets. I shall be grateful if
the Minister can satisfy me on that point. I hope that he can also
provide reassurance that the regulations are not unduly cumbersome and
bureaucratic, and that they will not have a harsh and disproportionate
impact in rural areas. That is certainly the impression I have been
left with after reading
them.
Regulations
13 and 17 create a criminal offence in this area for the first time.
The Minister went through the definitionsradioactive
substances, hazardous substances and non-hazardous
pollutantsand the Committee is grateful to him for that, but I
am particularly concerned about individual householders, rather than
industries. I am perhaps not as familiar as hon. Gentleman is with the
regulations, but it strikes me that they will create a criminal
offence, the implications of which will be great for
individuals.
What
guidance has DEFRA issued to the relevant interested parties and
industries about the regulations, particularly on the changes to the
substances that would have to be considered? Is it intended to publish
the code of practice and the DEFRA guidance that will be issued to the
Environment Agency? As my hon. Friend the Member for Mole Valley said,
we in this Committee are seeing only part of the story; the whole story
will be set out in the code of practice and the guidance. I would like
to have the opportunity to scrutinise that guidance. If it has already
been published, perhaps the Minister will direct us to it. Will the
interested parties have access to the guidance? What feedback was there
from the interested parties during the consultation? The explanatory
memorandum that sets out the responses is very
thin.
The
Minister took us through the regulations, but he did not make the case
for what he believes to be the main benefits of changes in the
groundwater regulations. What effect will the regulations have on the
implementation of the water framework, and for how long they will be in
effect? I understand that they will be in effect for only a short time
before being superseded by other regulations. I also understand that
legislation is already in force, so why are we considering the
regulations today? If it was
the Committees wish for the regulations to proceed, when will
they enter into force and for how long will they apply?
The
explanatory memorandum states that the Department is proceeding with a
risk-based approach. Were householders informed about
the risk relating to household sewage tanks? Is only sewage affected,
or is waste water from kitchen and other appliances covered? Has the
Department considered the impact on major developments of the need to
put in new septic
tanks?
The
regulatory impact assessment is disappointing, but it flags up one or
two problems. Article 17 of the water framework directive sets out to
achieve good chemical status. Where is there a
definition of good chemical status?
Paragraph 7.1
of the explanatory memorandum
states:
The
2009 Regulations provide for the prevention of the input of hazardous
substances and limitation of the input of non-hazardous pollutants.
They bring under control previously exempted discharges of less than 2
cubic metres per day from properties not connected to the sewerage
system (essentially septic
tanks).
What
are the implications of that exemption no longer pertaining?
We understand
from the explanatory memorandum that only 31 responses to the
consultation were received. It strikes me that the responses from those
directly affected were not as forthcoming as they might have been. Farm
and land managers are said to have a parallel interest. Were they
directly consulted as well? What will the impact and relationship to
the nitrates directive be?
The
explanatory memorandum states
that
Media
attention has been
minimal.
I
feel a Daily Mail story coming on if it and other national and
local newspapers, become aware that the regulations will affect many
dwellings in the country, which might not be aware thatif you
will pardon the pun, Mr. Bentonthey are coming down
the pipeline.
The
explanatory memorandum explains that
it is an
important legal instrument since it regulates the protection of an
invaluable resource for drinking water
supplies.
It
continues:
The
ending of exemptions for radioactive substances and septic tanks should
be understood in the context of the risk-based approach of the
WFD.
I
assume that the approach is not just risk-based, but science-based.
Will the Minister confirm that the risk has been calculated in a
scientific way?
In reference
to the codes of practice, the memorandum states that
they
will
continue to be an important and effective way of imparting good
practice and assisting operators to comply with the
Regulations.
Is
the Minister minded to publish them?
What further
representations have been made, perhaps after the consultation period
finished? What opportunities were there to raise issues at the time the
directive was adopted? That is extremely important. Having been on the
other sidein the European ParliamentI know that such
matters tend to be considered in the round, not in detail. Were any of
the issuesparticularly those relating to septic tanks and
non-hazardous pollutants that might impact on farmers and land
managementraised and debated with ministerial colleagues of
other member states?
I am not
entirely sure what the cost of implementation will be. I have carefully
read the impact assessment, but it seems to be blank on that point.
Perhaps I am not reading it correctly, but it is incumbent on the
Minister to share with the Committee what the cost of the
implementation will be, so that we consider it today.
How many
homes will be affected? How many farms? How many other
propertiessome commercial, no doubtwill be affected?
How is the directive applied in other member states? We want to know
that we are not gold-plating the directives provisions in the
draft
regulations.
Returning
momentarily to the impact on rural areas, I should like the
Ministers assurance that the directive will not impact unduly
harshly on rural areas. In England, 30 per cent. of the public water
supply comes from groundwater, whereas in Wales the figure is only 3
per cent. However, areas of water stress tend to be concentrated in the
south-east of Englandincluding East Anglia and the area that my
hon. Friend the Member for Mole Valley representsand in such
areas 70 per cent. of the public water supply comes from groundwater.
Obviously, the regulations will impact particularly harshly in the most
densely populated part of the
country.
What
assessment has the Minister made of the cost implications? The
Committee is owed that information. Can he assure us that we are not
creating a cumbersome bureaucratic procedure? Are we the only country
that is creating a criminal offence under the provisions of regulations
13 and 17? Did he receive any consultation responses on that? Can he
assure us both that the proposed measures are not disproportionately
expensive and that they are technically feasible? Can he set out the
clear, environmental and social economic benefits? Groundwater is
obviously an important resource and it should not be polluted, so there
is some measure of support, subject to the Ministers responses
today.
In
England and Wales the majority of sewerage systems are of the combined
design, with a single sewer pipe network used to collect and convey
foul sewage and surface water flows. In all sewerage systems, the raw
sewage flows tend to be supplemented by groundwater seepage into the
sewers through infiltration. There may also be some loss of sewage
through leakage into the surrounding ground through exfiltration. The
Environment Agencys 1998 document Policy and Practice
for the Protection of Groundwater, noted that the sewerage
system is one of the many potential sources of contamination that pose
a risk to groundwater.
Although
leaking sewers can be a contributory factor to the poor quality of
urban groundwaters, according to a 2008 Ofwat briefing, the general
impact of sewer leakage on the underlying groundwater quality is not
great, so why is the exemption being lifted, perhaps placing
disproportionate burdens on those who, like the Minister, have septic
tanks? Ofwat said at the time that it would not want the amended
legislation to be interpreted in such a way that it triggered massive
and expensive programmes aimed at sealing sewers if the benefits did
not justify the costs. I therefore seek an assurance that the costs
will not be disproportionately great and that implementation is
technically feasible.
I am grateful
for the opportunity to consider the draft regulations today, and I ask
the Minister to be as full and frank in his replies as possible. The
activities covered by the regulations include the land spreading of
agricultural wastes, the depositing of mine spoil, the
handling, storing and disposing of substances such as agri-chemicals and
solvents, yet the Minister has not said anything and I see little in
the explanatory memorandum about the relationship between the
groundwater directive and the regulations. There is also the nitrates
directive which, as the Minister knows, will impact disproportionately
harshly on many livestock producers, of whom there are many in my
constituency.
Finally,
what will the application process for permits be? Will it be covered by
the Environment Agencys current budget? Will the agency be in a
position to prosecute the criminal offences that may flow from the
regulations?
3
pm
Martin
Horwood (Cheltenham) (LD): May I apologise for being a few
minutes late? Broadly speaking, we Liberal Democrats welcome the
regulations to control groundwater pollution. They are welcome proof of
the value of co-ordinating European action to control pollution and at
least ensure that British businesses, including British agriculture,
face a level playing fieldor perhaps just a level
fieldin terms of the impositions and restrictions placed on
them for the public benefit.
It is right
that the Environment Agency should continue to be the effective
co-ordinating body for dealing with environmental pollution. There is a
growing trend towards having a single agency, so that it is more
obvious where the buck stops. We would probably go further and say that
the Environment Agency should have greater powers, so that it can be
identified as the buck-stops-here agency for environmental pollution,
with perhaps more powers to direct other agencies such as local
authorities and water companies. The hon. Member for Vale of York
mentioned sewerage as a key issue in groundwater pollution, and that is
the responsibility of water companies, not the Environment Agency, in
most cases. Pollution could also include fly-tipping and other threats
that might come under the remit of local authorities.
There is
scope for more authority and power for the Environment Agency, but with
the increasing trend to consolidate power in agencies such as the EA
comes an increasing obligation to consult stakeholders. I am slightly
worried about the obligations on the Environment Agency to consult
stakeholders such as farmers on a wider, proactive, public basis before
further amendments or changes are made to the lists and before detailed
implementation of the regulations.
We certainly
welcome tough penalties for crimes involving discharge into
groundwater. There may be some question, as there has been in the past,
about whether the penalties always suit the crime. There was the famous
case of the River Mease in Leicestershire, where pollution by Severn
Trent Water, which has a turnover of £1.5 billion, killed 18,000
fish and required a considerable remedial exercise. The company was
fined £13,500, which is towards the top end of an MPs
repayment of expenses these days.
Angela
Watkinson (Upminster) (Con): Speak for
yourself.