The
Committee consisted of the following
Members:
Chairman:
Mr.
Gary Streeter
Clappison,
Mr. James
(Hertsmere)
(Con)
Farron,
Tim
(Westmorland and Lonsdale)
(LD)
Gray,
Mr. James
(North Wiltshire)
(Con)
Heyes,
David
(Ashton-under-Lyne)
(Lab)
Kumar,
Dr. Ashok
(Middlesbrough, South and East Cleveland)
(Lab)
Ladyman,
Dr. Stephen
(South Thanet)
(Lab)
Laxton,
Mr. Bob
(Derby, North)
(Lab)
Norris,
Dan
(Parliamentary Under-Secretary of State for Environment, Food
and Rural Affairs)
Paice,
Mr. James
(South-East Cambridgeshire)
(Con)
Purchase,
Mr. Ken
(Wolverhampton, North-East)
(Lab/Co-op)
Spellar,
Mr. John
(Comptroller of Her Majesty's
Household)
Watkinson,
Angela
(Upminster)
(Con)
Williams,
Mr. Roger
(Brecon and Radnorshire)
(LD)
Ed Waller, Committee
Clerk
attended the
Committee
European
Committee A
Tuesday 16
June
2009
[Mr.
Gary Streeter in the
Chair]
Genetically
Modified
Maize
4.30
pm
The
Chairman: I call the hon. Member for Hertsmere
(Mr. Clappison) to make a brief explanatory
statement.
Mr.
James Clappison (Hertsmere) (Con): It will indeed be a
brief statement, but before I make it may I say what a pleasure it is
to serve under your chairmanship in Committee this afternoon,
Mr.
Streeter?
It
may help the Committee if I explain some of the background to the
documents and the reasons why the European Scrutiny Committee
recommended them for debate. As Committee members may know, Community
legislation on genetically modified crops delegates approvals to the
Commission in the first instance, but where it cannot obtain sufficient
support in a so-called regulatory committee the matter must be referred
to the Council.
The two
unnumbered documents before the Committee this afternoon have arisen
following the rejection by the regulatory committee on 25 February of
proposals to approve the cultivation in the Community of two maize
lines that have been genetically modified to be resistant to certain
insects. The two genetically modified lines in question are already
authorised for feed and food use, and if there is agreement by the
Council their cultivation will have to be permitted in all member
states.
The United
Kingdoms statutory advisory committee, the Advisory Committee
on Releases to the Environment, approved the applications, and its
views are reflected in the opinion submitted by the UK, following which
the UK voted in favour of the proposals in February. However, on that
occasion, a majority of other member states took a different view, and
it is now necessary for the matter to be put to the Council.
The
Government, for their part, say that the proposed course of action is
in line with their genetic modification policy. However, the Scottish
Executive were unable to support that. Although the Welsh Assembly
Government agreed in the two instances in question, their policy is to
take the most restrictive possible approach to GM crop cultivation.
Apart from that difference of view between the various Administrations,
the documents raise several issues. They involve the cultivation of a
GM crop within the Community, whereas other recent applications of the
kind have related to the use of imported GM material in food or feed.
Another issue is the extent of the overall preparedness of the UK if
the consent should finally be
approved.
For
those reasons the European Scrutiny Committee took the view that the
documents should be debated in the European Committee this
afternoon.
The
Chairman: I now call the Minister, whose first Committee
outing this is in his new role.
4.32
pm
The
Parliamentary Under-Secretary of State for Environment, Food and Rural
Affairs (Dan Norris): It is a pleasure to serve under your
chairmanship today, Mr.
Streeter.
The
draft Commission decisions that we are discussing today propose that
two types of genetically modified maize with insect resistance should
be authorised for marketing and commercial cultivation in the EU. Both
are already authorised for food and feed use under the relevant EU
legislation. The legislation requires that a detailed assessment of any
possible risk to human health and the environment should be carried out
before any proposed commercial release of the new GM crop. That
involves careful scrutiny of the scientific evidence by independent
scientists throughout the EU.
The
procedures for assessing applications, including the timetable for the
different stages, are mandatory requirements specified in the EU
legislation. The process includes two periods of public consultation
organised by the Commission. The first of those occurs when an
application is initially made. The second occurs when the scientific
assessment has been completed by the member state leading on the
application and a favourable safety opinion is forwarded for collective
EU scrutiny and decision-making. To support the two rounds of public
consultation the Commission puts appropriate information about the
application and the lead member state assessment report on its
website.
The
notification with respect to cultivation of the GM maize known as Bt11
was made by the company Syngenta to the French competent authority,
which conducted the initial assessment of the application. It submitted
its positive assessment to the Commission in July 2003. The
notification with respect to cultivation of the GM maize known as 1507
was made by Pioneer Hi-Bred International and Mycogen Seeds to the
Spanish competent authority, which conducted the initial assessment of
the application. It submitted its positive assessment to the Commission
in August 2003.
The next
stage in the EU process was for the other member states to consider and
comment on the initial assessment reports from France and Spain
respectively on Bt11 and 1507. In response to a comment made by several
member states, including the UK, the company submitted revised
post-market monitoring plans, which have to be implemented to check for
any unforeseen environmental effects that might arise from the growing
of the GM crop. Our own independent expert group, the Advisory
Committee on Releases to the Environment, was content with the revised
monitoring plans, which require the marketing companies to extend their
surveillance of the GM maize crops on so-called non-target
organismsinsects other than the specific pest species the GM
crops are resistant to.
Other
comments from member states on the safety assessment of the two maize
lines were considered by the GMO panel of the independent European Food
Safety Authority. It concluded in 2005 that there was no evidence to
indicate that Bt11 and 1507 maize and harvested products are likely to
cause adverse effects on human health, animal health or the environment
in the context of their proposed use.
Since 2005 we
have been waiting for the Commission to table those applications for a
vote at the relevant EU regulatory committee. The Commission asked EFSA
in
2006 to provide more information on non-target organisms, and in 2008 to
consider 11 scientific papers of possible relevance that had been
published since its original opinion was made. EFSA considered both
those requests and subsequently added two annexes to its original
opinions. Neither of those altered its original view that both Bt11 and
1507 could be used without a negative effect on health and the
environment. Our own advisory committee, ACRE, agrees with that
conclusion.
At the EU
regulatory committee in February 2009 there was a no-qualified majority
vote in favour of or against approving the release of either maize crop
for cultivation. In line with the clear scientific opinion of EFSA and
ACRE, the UK voted in favour of approving those consents.
In
determining the UK position, the Department for Environment, Food and
Rural Affairs considered the views of the devolved Administrations.
Both the Welsh Assembly Government and the Northern Ireland Executive
signalled their support for a positive UK vote. In line with their
general policy of opposing the cultivation of GM crops, the Scottish
Government made clear their preference for the UK to vote against
approval, despite the clear scientific evidence. As there was no
qualified majority at regulatory committee, the dossiers will now be
referred to the Council for a decision. At this stage it is not clear
when the Council might vote on the matter.
The two maize
crops are resistant to the corn borer, which is a severe pest problem
in the maize-growing areas of southern Europe and the USA. The corn
borer is not a problem in the UK, so that type of maize would offer no
benefit to our farmers. Therefore, we do not expect Bt11 or 1507 maize
to be marketed or grown in the UK under current climatic
conditions.
To cover the
possibility that other GM crops might be grown here in the future, we
are planning to introduce pragmatic co-existence rules for farmers in
England. Those will ensure that unwanted GM cross-contamination is
minimised so that GM and non-GM crops can be segregated and people can
chose between them. As the legal basis for distinguishing GM from other
products, the EU agreed in 2003 that products do not need to carry a GM
label if they have an accidental or unavoidable content of approved GM
material below 0.9 per
cent.
The
Chairman: We now have until half-past 5 for questions to
the Minister, which I remind Members must be brief. Members may ask
related supplementary questions together, subject to my
discretion.
Mr.
James Paice (South-East Cambridgeshire) (Con): It is a
pleasure to serve under your chairmanship, Mr. Streeter. I
add my welcome to the MinisterI welcomed him last night in the
Chamber, but this is the first time he has served in
Committeeand thank him for his introduction. There are several
issues I would like to raise.
First, on the
issue of safety, the Minister rightly said that it is currently
unlikely that those two varieties of maize would be grown in Britain
because we tend to grow forage maize, rather than grain maize, in this
country. However, we might well start to grow more grain maize because
of climate change, and a certain amount of grain maize is already grown
in the south of England. Would he tell us about the environmental
tests? The Government have in the past approved the growing of GM
varieties of maize for field-scale evaluation. There is great concern,
as we know, about the impact of GM crops on the environment. When and
in which countries were the field-scale assessments done, and who
evaluated them and over what period? We want an idea whether the
environmental assessment is up the standard that we would
expect.
Dan
Norris: I do not have that information to hand. I hope
that the hon. Gentleman will allow me to get it from my officials and
comment in a moment. I have been assured that the standards are of the
highest, that they are robust and are thorough, but I shall give more
detail
later.
Dr.
Stephen Ladyman (South Thanet) (Lab): I welcome you,
Mr. Streeter, to the Chair, and I welcome my hon. Friend the
Minister to his new
post.
It
appears from my hon. Friends statement that the science is
clear: the product is healthy and safe and does not have a negative
environmental impact. Did the Scottish Government or any other members
of the flat earth society do any work to indicate what the negative
health impact would be of having to use pesticides on non-genetically
modified products to stop the pest from destroying those crops? Did
they take that into account when they made their rather silly decision
to impose some sort of blanket ban on GM
products?
Dan
Norris: I thank my hon. Friend for that question. I
understand that they have not gone very far in addressing the concerns
that he raises. Their position therefore seems to be one of principle
rather than science. I shall leave it at
that.
Mr.
Roger Williams (Brecon and Radnorshire) (LD): I apologise
to you, Mr. Streeter, and to the Committee for my late
arrival, but I was in the Chamber for a
statement.
The
hon. Member for South-East Cambridgeshire was right to say that it is
grain maize. If it is imported into this country for human or animal
feed, what identification and labelling would be appropriate to alert
the farmers or consumers who might buy it that it was GM
foodstuff?
Dan
Norris: I thank the hon. Gentleman for his question. I do
not know what specifics would meet his requirements. However, I know
that we have time to get it right. I am sure that there will be
thorough consultation to ensure that errors cannot be made and that
people will be clear exactly what they are dealing with. Whether or not
one believes in science, one thing is sure: we should all be able to
make informed decisions on matters as important as labelling. As I
said, it will be some time before we face that challenge, but we
therefore need to discuss the matter to ensure that we get something
clear, in order to reduce error to an absolute
minimum.
Mr.
Paice: I am astonished that the Minister could not answer
my first question because he had not been given the information. It
seems pretty fundamental that the House should be told where the trials
were done before ACRE decided that there was no risk to the
environment. It seems a fundamental point, and I am almost tempted to
suggest that the Committee should not consider the matter further until
we have that
information.
I
ask the Minister a related question. He repeated the absurd statement
that we have plenty of time. It is several years since the Government
first consulted on crop separation distances. Indeed, the European
Scrutiny Committee report said at paragraph 1.11 that
we noted that
the UK was one of the relatively small number of member states which
had not introduced legislation in this
area.
It
seems daft that the Government, having put out a consultation, have
done nothing. Why have they not made progress? It was clear what they
proposed. The question of crop separation is fundamental to food
labelling and the safety of growing GM crops, given the potential for
cross-contamination to conventional and organic crops. When does the
Minister expect the Government to introduce regulations on the rules
for crop separation? We could have another set of proposals from
another plant breeding company for a totally different crop, which
could be grown very quickly. I disagree with his assertion that we have
plenty of
time.