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We called today’s debate because people throughout Britain who face redundancy, short-time working, layoffs, pay cuts, business failures, negative equity and repossessions cannot understand why Parliament is not debating the economic crisis all day, every day—never mind why it has not debated it this year. “Real help now” is the slogan, and I have a copy here of the glossy brochure that the Government have produced to promote it. But we have heard from Members this afternoon how hollow that slogan is, and it is clearly not a piece of rhetoric that the Chancellor is prepared to come here to defend. Nevertheless, I have to say—perhaps the Exchequer Secretary will convey this to the Chancellor—that even without him we have had a useful debate. Let me now mention just some of the important issues that have been raised in the course of it.
The shadow Chancellor, my hon. Friend the Member for Tatton (Mr. Osborne), set the tone with a forceful case against the Government, along with a devastating analysis of Labour’s failure to prepare the British economy for the problems that we now face and its continued failure to address those problems once they were upon us. Some of my hon. Friends offered specific examples of the failure of the Government’s announced programmes to deliver.
The hon. Member for Twickenham (Dr. Cable) made the important point that there is a distinction to be drawn between the institutional implementation of a programme and that programme’s delivery of results at the sharp end. My hon. Friend the Member for Bournemouth, West (Sir John Butterfill) gave examples of constituents to whom the loan guarantee schemes were simply not available. We heard from my hon. Friend the Member for North-West Cambridgeshire (Mr. Vara) of the inability of a constituent of his to access an announced career development loan, and, perhaps even more worrying, the unawareness of his local jobcentre staff of that scheme.
My hon. Friend the Member for Bosworth (David Tredinnick) gave an example of a denial by banks of access to one of the guarantee schemes for a company in his constituency. My hon. Friend the Member for Sevenoaks (Mr. Fallon) told us just how patchy knowledge and awareness of those schemes is, not just among jobcentre staff but among businesses. That point has been reinforced by the director general of the CBI.
I think it was my hon. Friend the Member for Crewe and Nantwich (Mr. Timpson)—although he is a relatively new Member, he obviously has the knack of seeing right through the issues—who identified the problem, which is the Government’s instinct to announce first and work it out later. His point was reinforced by the hon. Member for Northampton, North (Ms Keeble), who said that when something is announced it must be available. I hope that those on her party’s Front Bench will take that message on board. She went on to explain the disappointment, confusion, dismay, anger and frustration caused when schemes that are supposed to be available are simply not there. That confusion, particularly in relation to help in the job and housing markets, adds to the loss of confidence, which, as my hon. Friend the Member for North-East Hertfordshire (Mr. Heald) pointed out, is so important at a time like this. My right hon. Friend the Member for Haltemprice and Howden (David Davis) reminded the House that Keynes himself came to recognise the critical role of
confidence in an economic recovery. The recovery of confidence is, as a number of hon. Members pointed out, a necessary, if not a sufficient, condition for economic recovery and must be a principal focus of the Government’s attention.
Several hon. Members focused on the underlying problems in the banking system. My right hon. Friend the Member for Haltemprice and Howden drew attention to the very different models of Japan and Sweden, and the banking crises they had both suffered. He noted that the Government appear to be following the Japanese model of fiscal loosening while failing to get to grips with the problems in the financial system, and to be shying away from the Swedish response, which was ultimately successful. He offered a credible explanation for that choice: the Swedish route, of recognising the problems in the banks up front and taking them explicitly on to the balance sheet and dealing with them, requires some tough decision making, while the Japanese approach pushes the problem down the line to be dealt with and paid for later on. We all know that this Government’s inclination is to push problems down the line—certainly beyond May 2010—even if that gives rise to the risk of zombie banks being created, as my right hon. Friend suggested.
My right hon. Friend and a number of other Members referred to the challenge of defining the limits of taxpayer responsibility for banks in future, whether by some Glass-Steagall type approach or by other means. There was general consensus that the taxpayer will not in future be prepared to stand behind the kind of behaviour we have seen in the investment arms of banks. We will have to find a way forward—looking at the Turner report and the recommendations of Sir James Sassoon to the shadow Chancellor—to build a new structure that will protect the taxpayer while allowing a banking system to operate for the benefit of the real economy in this country.
My hon. Friend the Member for Aldershot (Mr. Howarth), my right hon. and learned Friend the Member for Folkestone and Hythe (Mr. Howard) and my right hon. Friend the Member for Wokingham (Mr. Redwood) reminded us of the flimsy basis on which the Prime Minister’s reputation for financial management was built. His great coup of the Bank of England reform of 1997 is now exposed as having delivered a dysfunctional regulatory system. As my hon. Friend the Member for Braintree (Mr. Newmark) said, the problems we are now facing began on the first day of this Labour Government, when the now Prime Minister crossed the threshold of No. 11 Downing street. My right hon. and learned Friend the Member for Folkestone and Hythe reminded us—contrary to what some Labour Members suggested—how he and others were warning in November 1997 that this undermining of the Bank of England would create “a field day” for “spivs and crooks”. Again, in 2002, 2003 and 2004, when he categorised the then Chancellor’s Budget as a “credit-card Budget”, he—and others—were warning of the hollowness of an economic model that built an economy on the sand of excess debt. The truth is that my right hon. and learned Friend and other hon. Friends have consistently warned about the risks the then Chancellor was running with the economy, and they were consistently ignored.
Several Members referred to the confusion in Government policy towards the banks—on the one hand urging greater lending, on the other hand urging them to rebuild their balance sheets. Several Members also gave examples of banks that do not appear to have received the message from head office of the deal that the Chancellor and Prime Minister tell us they have done on extending lending to businesses that need support. This problem urgently needs resolving if the measures that the Government have taken are to deliver a freeing-up of lending at the sharp end.
There were a couple of interesting speeches made by those on the Labour Benches. The hon. Member for Newcastle upon Tyne, North (Mr. Henderson) used the D-word about this recession—I am sure that he will get a note about that later from the Whips. He accused the Conservatives of not being prepared to face up to what he called the “new economic situation”. I should say to him that it is precisely because we are facing up to the fact that the challenges that the economy faces are on a scale not seen before and that the changes we will see in it require a sea change in our thinking that we have resisted signing up to the easy consensus being offered by Labour Members. We have insisted on taking on the chin the really difficult challenges that have to be dealt with. It is he and his colleagues who are not prepared to face up to the fact that their Government did not prepare the United Kingdom to withstand this downturn—they are the ones who are guilty of gross negligence and dereliction of duty in preparing the UK for the problems it faces today.
Anyone listening to this debate would recognise that there have been massive failures of Government policy, both in the decade to 2007 and in the Government’s response to the crisis since. I do not know where the Chief Secretary to the Treasury stands on the issue of apologies, but her boss and her husband have given one, yet the Prime Minister still insists on saying that he has “nothing to apologise for”—that is how the British people will remember him. He will be remembered as the Prime Minister who brought destruction upon the economy, but who says that he has nothing to apologise for—not the failure of his regulatory system, which contributed to the global crisis in the first place; not his failure to manage our public finances, which meant that we went into this recession less well prepared than any other major economy; not his hubristic claim to have abolished boom and bust, which led many people to borrow money they could not afford, a decision that they regret now and will regret for the rest of their lives; not his grandstanding abroad when he should have been fixing the problems at home; and not his endless stream of ineffectual announcements, which are still not delivering today for the businesses and the households of this country.
A Prime Minister who implemented a financial regulation system that has failed so catastrophically, who operated a model of economic growth based on unsustainable public debt, unsustainable global imbalances and unsustainable household debt and who cannot acknowledge those failures, even now, cannot be part of the solution. He is the problem, he is the past, and the sooner we move on to the future, the better for Britain.
6.48 pm
The Exchequer Secretary to the Treasury (Angela Eagle):
We have had an interesting debate and I wish to
mention a few of the contributions that I have enjoyed listening to this afternoon. First, I should mention the one made by my hon. Friend the Member for Coventry, North-West (Mr. Robinson). He pointed out the untenable Conservative position of calling the Government response to the current conditions inadequate, while being against the Government’s spending, which is needed to pay for any action at all. The speech made by my hon. Friend the Member for Crawley (Laura Moffatt) recognised the really difficult times for people and businesses that the current conditions we are battling are causing us to have to deal with.
My right hon. Friend the Member for Oldham, West and Royton (Mr. Meacher) and my hon. Friend the Member for Elmet (Colin Burgon) gave us a critique of neo-liberalism and, in some cases, a timely analysis of the problems of inequality. My hon. Friend the Member for Newcastle upon Tyne, North (Mr. Henderson) cited Galbraith’s statement about where the wise got their wisdom, but pointed out that the Tories are not ideologically comfortable with the direction that is needed to get us through the current problems. My hon. Friend the Member for Northampton, North (Ms Keeble) made an extremely good speech, talking passionately about the unfavourable consequences of the Conservative do nothing approach to the recession of the 1980s and 1990s, contrasting that with the Government’s action so far.
The main themes of the speeches by Opposition Members can be summed up in two words. Many Opposition Members, including the right hon. Member for Haltemprice and Howden (David Davis) and the hon. Members for Eddisbury (Mr. O’Brien) and for Wellingborough (Mr. Bone), talked about the need to restore confidence. If they wish to restore confidence, why do they go around scaremongering about levels of debt? Why do they talk down the British economy and emphasise the negatives, rather than help us battle the serious problems that we face?
Other Opposition Members talked about how the problems here were caused by the Bank of England and the creation of the tripartite arrangements, but that has not had anything to do with the global recession that we now face. In fact, the problems of the global credit crunch have been manifested in every country, despite very different styles of financial regulation. Clearly, there are lessons to be learned, and Lord Turner has talked about some of those in the publication of his report today, which the Chancellor requested last October. The problems are deeper, as Lord Turner pointed out, and include the complex financial engineering that was going on, and the global imbalances between saving and spending, which manifested themselves in low-priced credit. All those issues have to be solved if we are to create a sustainable future.
This debate has demonstrated the real differences that we have with the Conservatives over how to tackle the unprecedented economic challenge that we now face. The Conservatives like to insist that somehow the downturn we are now experiencing is all the fault of our domestic policy. In fact, the credit crunch began in the American sub-prime mortgage market. As it has reverberated around the world, we have seen a noticeable deterioration in global economic prospects. In the last quarter of 2008, the world economy shrank for the first
time since 1945. The IMF now expects global growth to be negative in 2009. That will be the first global contraction for more than 60 years.
The battle to end this global financial crisis and return the world to sustainable growth demands new ways of thinking and new ways of acting, both domestically and internationally. There are three priorities. First, the global economy is interconnected, so we can succeed only if we work together. Secondly, we need to stimulate demand and, thirdly, we must reform both regulation and international financial institutions.
Whether the Tories like it or not, the fact is that the problems we are facing are shared across an interconnected world. It is only by acting together that we can tackle them effectively. That is why the G20 conference is so important. Our national action will be more effective if it is accompanied by globally co-ordinated responses. That is especially true of boosting demand and reforming regulation.
What have we heard from the Conservatives to match the scale of the task that we face? The need for major changes to our systems of financial services regulation is obvious—
Mr. Redwood: When did Treasury Ministers first become aware that there was a debt crisis in this country?
Angela Eagle: Far from demanding more regulation during the passage of the Financial Services— [ Interruption. ] The Conservatives spent their entire time in government and in opposition calling for less regulation, for markets to be free, and for markets to make the decisions. The right hon. Gentleman is one of the major causes and supporters of deregulation in the financial markets— [ Interruption. ] They do not like— [ Interruption. ]
Mr. Deputy Speaker (Sir Michael Lord): Order. The House gave a fair hearing to the Opposition spokesman in the wind-ups. These are extremely serious matters. Outside this House, people are watching the way in which we are debating them with great anxiety and the House should give a fair hearing to the Minister who is winding up.
Angela Eagle: Perhaps I might ask the right hon. Gentleman when he first gave me a warning about what was happening with debt in the British economy.
We have heard that somehow all these issues are problems caused by our national regulatory arrangements. They clearly are not, because they manifest themselves around the developed world in advanced financial services and, in particular, in banks.
Far from demanding more regulation during the passage of the Financial Services and Markets Act 2000, which created the current tripartite arrangements, the Conservatives called for less. The right hon. Member for Wells (Mr. Heathcoat-Amory), for example, said from the Tory Front Bench on Second Reading of that Bill that
“we believe that regulation should be minimal”
and that their concern about the Bill was
“the danger of over-regulation”.—[ Official Report, 28 June 1999; Vol. 334, c. 42-44.]
The hon. Member for Chichester (Mr. Tyrie) expressed similar concerns. Four years later the then shadow Chancellor, the right hon. Member for West Dorset (Mr. Letwin), announced that an incoming Tory Government would abolish or rein in the FSA because of its “intrusive regulatory regime”.
In March last year, in the middle of the credit crunch, the Leader of the Opposition was still at it when he said:
“I understand totally that the strength and success of the City of London has been based on light-touch regulation”.
It is little wonder then that just as the credit crunch took hold the right hon. Member for Wokingham (Mr. Redwood) was unveiling plans to scrap completely the regulation of all mortgages. So, are the Opposition in favour of boosting demand?
Rob Marris: Does my hon. Friend find it strange that the Conservatives in opposition now castigate the Government for proposing to double the national debt in the light of the worst world recession since 1946, yet the previous Conservative Government doubled the national debt when there was not such a deep world recession at all? They were the profligate ones, whereas we have had to pick up the pieces and pay down some of that national debt.
Angela Eagle: My hon. Friend is right.
Are the Conservatives in favour of boosting demand to give real help now, just when it is needed, at the beginning of a recession? No, they are not. They are alone in the world in proposing huge spending cuts. They would repeat the mistakes of the past. They would take us back to the 1930s by weakening demand just when it needs to be strengthened. They have proposed to cut £5 billion from current spending plans by April this year. That is two weeks from now. Two days ago, the Leader of the Opposition was saying that Labour’s determination to support demand and protect real people from the effects of the downturn was unaffordable. He said, “Does that mean some areas will be cut? Yes it does.”
The Tories also opposed the £20 billion injection of demand into the economy that we announced at the pre-Budget report. That means that based on the policies that they have announced—we have heard precious little of most of them—they would take £25 billion of spending out of our economy just as the recession is at its worst. They would let this recession take its course, whereas with real help now we have ensured that 12 million pensioners have received a £60 extra payment since January to support them at this difficult time—the Tories, however, are opposed to it.
In April, all 22 million basic rate taxpayers will get a £145 tax cut. That is real help now, but the Tories are opposed to it. They make the completely unfounded assertion in the motion that the temporary cut in VAT has not worked. Evidence from the independent ONS shows that the tax cut has been reflected in price reductions in 70 per cent. of cases— [ Interruption. ]
Mr. Andrew Robathan (Blaby) (Con) claimed to move the closure (Standing Order No. 36).
Question put forthwith, That the Question be now put.
Question put accordingly (Standing Order No. 31(2)), That the original words stand part of the Question.
The House divided: Ayes 217, Noes 283.
AYES
Afriyie, Adam
Ainsworth, Mr. Peter
Ancram, rh Mr. Michael
Arbuthnot, rh Mr. James
Atkinson, Mr. Peter
Bacon, Mr. Richard
Baldry, Tony
Baron, Mr. John
Barrett, John
Beith, rh Sir Alan
Bellingham, Mr. Henry
Benyon, Mr. Richard
Bercow, John
Beresford, Sir Paul
Binley, Mr. Brian
Blunt, Mr. Crispin
Bone, Mr. Peter
Boswell, Mr. Tim
Bottomley, Peter
Brady, Mr. Graham
Brake, Tom
Brazier, Mr. Julian
Breed, Mr. Colin
Brokenshire, James
Brooke, Annette
Browne, Mr. Jeremy
Browning, Angela
Burns, Mr. Simon
Burrowes, Mr. David
Burstow, Mr. Paul
Burt, Alistair
Burt, Lorely
Butterfill, Sir John
Cable, Dr. Vincent
Cameron, rh Mr. David
Carmichael, Mr. Alistair
Carswell, Mr. Douglas
Cash, Mr. William
Clappison, Mr. James
Clark, Greg
Clarke, rh Mr. Kenneth
Cox, Mr. Geoffrey
Davey, Mr. Edward
Davies, David T.C. (Monmouth)
Davies, Philip
Davis, rh David
Dorrell, rh Mr. Stephen
Dorries, Nadine
Duddridge, James
Duncan, Alan
Duncan Smith, rh Mr. Iain
Dunne, Mr. Philip
Ellwood, Mr. Tobias
Evans, Mr. Nigel
Evennett, Mr. David
Fabricant, Michael
Fallon, Mr. Michael
Farron, Tim
Field, Mr. Mark
Foster, Mr. Don
Fox, Dr. Liam
Francois, Mr. Mark
Fraser, Christopher
Gale, Mr. Roger
Garnier, Mr. Edward
Gauke, Mr. David
George, Andrew
Gibb, Mr. Nick
Gidley, Sandra
Gillan, Mrs. Cheryl
Goodman, Mr. Paul
Goodwill, Mr. Robert
Gove, Michael
Gray, Mr. James
Green, Damian
Greening, Justine
Greenway, Mr. John
Grieve, Mr. Dominic
Gummer, rh Mr. John
Hague, rh Mr. William
Hammond, Mr. Philip
Hammond, Stephen
Hands, Mr. Greg
Harper, Mr. Mark
Harris, Dr. Evan
Harvey, Nick
Hayes, Mr. John
Heald, Mr. Oliver
Heath, Mr. David
Heathcoat-Amory, rh Mr. David
Hemming, John
Hendry, Charles
Herbert, Nick
Hoban, Mr. Mark
Hogg, rh Mr. Douglas
Hollobone, Mr. Philip
Holloway, Mr. Adam
Holmes, Paul
Horam, Mr. John
Howard, rh Mr. Michael
Howarth, David
Howarth, Mr. Gerald
Howell, John
Hughes, Simon
Huhne, Chris
Hunt, Mr. Jeremy
Hunter, Mark
Hurd, Mr. Nick
Jack, rh Mr. Michael
Jackson, Mr. Stewart
Jenkin, Mr. Bernard
Jones, Mr. David
Kennedy, rh Mr. Charles
Key, Robert
Kirkbride, Miss Julie
Knight, rh Mr. Greg
Laing, Mrs. Eleanor
Lait, Mrs. Jacqui
Lamb, Norman
Lancaster, Mr. Mark
Lansley, Mr. Andrew
Laws, Mr. David
Leech, Mr. John
Leigh, Mr. Edward
Letwin, rh Mr. Oliver
Lewis, Dr. Julian
Liddell-Grainger, Mr. Ian
Lidington, Mr. David
Lilley, rh Mr. Peter
Loughton, Tim
Luff, Peter
Mackay, rh Mr. Andrew
Main, Anne
Malins, Mr. Humfrey
Maples, Mr. John
Mates, rh Mr. Michael
Maude, rh Mr. Francis
May, rh Mrs. Theresa
McIntosh, Miss Anne
McLoughlin, rh Mr. Patrick
Miller, Mrs. Maria
Milton, Anne
Mitchell, Mr. Andrew
Moore, Mr. Michael
Mundell, David
Murrison, Dr. Andrew
Neill, Robert
Newmark, Mr. Brooks
O'Brien, Mr. Stephen
Öpik, Lembit
Osborne, Mr. George
Ottaway, Richard
Paice, Mr. James
Penning, Mike
Penrose, John
Pickles, Mr. Eric
Prisk, Mr. Mark
Pritchard, Mark
Pugh, Dr. John
Randall, Mr. John
Redwood, rh Mr. John
Reid, Mr. Alan
Rennie, Willie
Rifkind, rh Sir Malcolm
Robathan, Mr. Andrew
Robertson, Hugh
Robertson, Mr. Laurence
Rogerson, Dan
Ruffley, Mr. David
Russell, Bob
Sanders, Mr. Adrian
Scott, Mr. Lee
Selous, Andrew
Shapps, Grant
Shepherd, Mr. Richard
Simmonds, Mark
Simpson, Mr. Keith
Smith, Sir Robert
Soames, Mr. Nicholas
Spelman, Mrs. Caroline
Spicer, Sir Michael
Spring, Mr. Richard
Stunell, Andrew
Swayne, Mr. Desmond
Swire, Mr. Hugo
Syms, Mr. Robert
Tapsell, Sir Peter
Taylor, Mr. Ian
Taylor, Matthew
Teather, Sarah
Thurso, John
Timpson, Mr. Edward
Tredinnick, David
Turner, Mr. Andrew
Tyrie, Mr. Andrew
Vaizey, Mr. Edward
Vara, Mr. Shailesh
Viggers, Sir Peter
Villiers, Mrs. Theresa
Walker, Mr. Charles
Wallace, Mr. Ben
Walter, Mr. Robert
Waterson, Mr. Nigel
Watkinson, Angela
Webb, Steve
Whittingdale, Mr. John
Willetts, Mr. David
Williams, Mr. Roger
Williams, Stephen
Willis, Mr. Phil
Willott, Jenny
Wilshire, Mr. David
Wilson, Mr. Rob
Wright, Jeremy
Yeo, Mr. Tim
Young, rh Sir George
Younger-Ross, Richard
Tellers for the Ayes:
Mr. Stephen Crabb and
Bill Wiggin
NOES
Abbott, Ms Diane
Ainger, Nick
Ainsworth, rh Mr. Bob
Alexander, rh Mr. Douglas
Anderson, Mr. David
Anderson, Janet
Atkins, Charlotte
Austin, Mr. Ian
Austin, John
Bailey, Mr. Adrian
Baird, Vera
Balls, rh Ed
Banks, Gordon
Barlow, Ms Celia
Barron, rh Mr. Kevin
Battle, rh John
Begg, Miss Anne
Bell, Sir Stuart
Benn, rh Hilary
Berry, Roger
Betts, Mr. Clive
Blackman, Liz
Blackman-Woods, Dr. Roberta
Blizzard, Mr. Bob
Borrow, Mr. David S.
Bradshaw, Mr. Ben
Brennan, Kevin
Brown, Lyn
Brown, rh Mr. Nicholas
Brown, Mr. Russell
Browne, rh Des
Bryant, Chris
Buck, Ms Karen
Burgon, Colin
Burnham, rh Andy
Butler, Ms Dawn
Byrne, rh Mr. Liam
Caborn, rh Mr. Richard
Cairns, David
Campbell, Mr. Alan
Campbell, Mr. Ronnie
Caton, Mr. Martin
Cawsey, Mr. Ian
Chapman, Ben
Chaytor, Mr. David
Clapham, Mr. Michael
Clark, Ms Katy
Clark, Paul
Clarke, rh Mr. Tom
Clelland, Mr. David
Clwyd, rh Ann
Coaker, Mr. Vernon
Coffey, Ann
Connarty, Michael
Cook, Frank
Cooper, Rosie
Cooper, rh Yvette
Corbyn, Jeremy
Cousins, Jim
Crausby, Mr. David
Cruddas, Jon
Cunningham, Mr. Jim
Cunningham, Tony
Darling, rh Mr. Alistair
David, Mr. Wayne
Davidson, Mr. Ian
Davies, Mr. Dai
Davies, Mr. Quentin
Denham, rh Mr. John
Devine, Mr. Jim
Dismore, Mr. Andrew
Dobbin, Jim
Dobson, rh Frank
Dodds, Mr. Nigel
Donaldson, rh Mr. Jeffrey M.
Donohoe, Mr. Brian H.
Doran, Mr. Frank
Dowd, Jim
Drew, Mr. David
Eagle, Angela
Efford, Clive
Ellman, Mrs. Louise
Engel, Natascha
Ennis, Jeff
Farrelly, Paul
Fisher, Mark
Fitzpatrick, Jim
Flello, Mr. Robert
Flint, rh Caroline
Flynn, Paul
Follett, Barbara
Foster, Michael Jabez (Hastings and Rye)
Francis, Dr. Hywel
Gardiner, Barry
George, rh Mr. Bruce
Gerrard, Mr. Neil
Gibson, Dr. Ian
Gilroy, Linda
Godsiff, Mr. Roger
Goggins, Paul
Goodman, Helen
Griffith, Nia
Griffiths, Nigel
Grogan, Mr. John
Gwynne, Andrew
Hain, rh Mr. Peter
Hall, Mr. Mike
Hall, Patrick
Hamilton, Mr. David
Hanson, rh Mr. David
Harman, rh Ms Harriet
Harris, Mr. Tom
Havard, Mr. Dai
Healey, rh John
Henderson, Mr. Doug
Hesford, Stephen
Hewitt, rh Ms Patricia
Heyes, David
Hill, rh Keith
Hodgson, Mrs. Sharon
Hood, Mr. Jim
Hope, Phil
Hopkins, Kelvin
Howarth, rh Mr. George
Howells, rh Dr. Kim
Hoyle, Mr. Lindsay
Hughes, rh Beverley
Humble, Mrs. Joan
Iddon, Dr. Brian
Ingram, rh Mr. Adam
Irranca-Davies, Huw
James, Mrs. Siân C.
Jenkins, Mr. Brian
Johnson, rh Alan
Jones, Helen
Jones, Mr. Kevan
Jones, Lynne
Jones, Mr. Martyn
Jowell, rh Tessa
Joyce, Mr. Eric
Kaufman, rh Sir Gerald
Keeble, Ms Sally
Keeley, Barbara
Keen, Alan
Keen, Ann
Kelly, rh Ruth
Kemp, Mr. Fraser
Kidney, Mr. David
Kilfoyle, Mr. Peter
Knight, rh Jim
Kumar, Dr. Ashok
Ladyman, Dr. Stephen
Laxton, Mr. Bob
Lazarowicz, Mark
Lepper, David
Levitt, Tom
Lewis, Mr. Ivan
Linton, Martin
Lloyd, Tony
Love, Mr. Andrew
Lucas, Ian
MacNeil, Mr. Angus
MacShane, rh Mr. Denis
Malik, Mr. Shahid
Mallaber, Judy
Mann, John
Marris, Rob
Marsden, Mr. Gordon
Marshall-Andrews, Mr. Robert
Mason, John
McAvoy, rh Mr. Thomas
McCabe, Steve
McCafferty, Chris
McCarthy, Kerry
McCarthy-Fry, Sarah
McDonagh, Siobhain
McFadden, rh Mr. Pat
McFall, rh John
McGovern, Mr. Jim
McGuire, rh Mrs. Anne
McIsaac, Shona
McKenna, Rosemary
McNulty, rh Mr. Tony
Meacher, rh Mr. Michael
Merron, Gillian
Michael, rh Alun
Milburn, rh Mr. Alan
Miliband, rh Edward
Miller, Andrew
Moffat, Anne
Moffatt, Laura
Mole, Chris
Morden, Jessica
Morgan, Julie
Morley, rh Mr. Elliot
Mudie, Mr. George
Mullin, Mr. Chris
Munn, Meg
Murphy, rh Mr. Paul
Naysmith, Dr. Doug
Norris, Dan
O'Hara, Mr. Edward
Olner, Mr. Bill
Owen, Albert
Palmer, Dr. Nick
Pearson, Ian
Plaskitt, Mr. James
Prentice, Bridget
Prentice, Mr. Gordon
Prescott, rh Mr. John
Primarolo, rh Dawn
Purnell, rh James
Raynsford, rh Mr. Nick
Reed, Mr. Andy
Riordan, Mrs. Linda
Robertson, Angus
Robertson, John
Robinson, Mr. Geoffrey
Rooney, Mr. Terry
Roy, Mr. Frank
Roy, Lindsay
Ruane, Chris
Ruddock, Joan
Russell, Christine
Ryan, rh Joan
Sarwar, Mr. Mohammad
Seabeck, Alison
Sharma, Mr. Virendra
Shaw, Jonathan
Sheerman, Mr. Barry
Sheridan, Jim
Simon, Mr. Siôn
Simpson, Alan
Skinner, Mr. Dennis
Slaughter, Mr. Andy
Smith, rh Mr. Andrew
Smith, Ms Angela C. (Sheffield, Hillsborough)
Smith, Angela E. (Basildon)
Smith, Geraldine
Smith, rh Jacqui
Smith, John
Snelgrove, Anne
Soulsby, Sir Peter
Southworth, Helen
Spellar, rh Mr. John
Spink, Bob
Starkey, Dr. Phyllis
Stoate, Dr. Howard
Strang, rh Dr. Gavin
Sutcliffe, Mr. Gerry
Tami, Mark
Taylor, Ms Dari
Taylor, David
Taylor, Dr. Richard
Thomas, Mr. Gareth
Thornberry, Emily
Timms, rh Mr. Stephen
Tipping, Paddy
Todd, Mr. Mark
Touhig, rh Mr. Don
Trickett, Jon
Truswell, Mr. Paul
Turner, Dr. Desmond
Turner, Mr. Neil
Vis, Dr. Rudi
Walley, Joan
Waltho, Lynda
Wareing, Mr. Robert N.
Watson, Mr. Tom
Watts, Mr. Dave
Weir, Mr. Mike
Whitehead, Dr. Alan
Wicks, rh Malcolm
Williams, rh Mr. Alan
Williams, Mrs. Betty
Wills, rh Mr. Michael
Wilson, Phil
Wilson, Sammy
Wishart, Pete
Wood, Mike
Woolas, Mr. Phil
Wright, Mr. Anthony
Wright, David
Wright, Dr. Tony
Tellers for the Noes:
Claire Ward and
Ms Diana R. Johnson
Question accordingly negatived.
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