Motion made, and Question put forthwith (Standing Order No.117A(3)),
That the North West Regional Grand Committee shall meet in Liverpool on Thursday 22 October between 2.00 pm and 5.30 pm to take questions under Standing Order No. 117B (Regional Grand Committees (questions for oral answer)) and to hold a general debate on Building Britains Future: the North Wests response to the economic downturn. (Mr. Watts . )
25 Jun 2009 : Column 1030 The House divided: Ayes 120, Noes 105.
Anderson, Mr. David
Austin, Mr. Ian
Baird, Vera
Balls, rh Ed
Battle, rh John
Bayley, Hugh
Begg, Miss Anne
Blackman-Woods, Dr. Roberta
Bradshaw, rh Mr. Ben
Brennan, Kevin
Brown, Lyn
Browne, rh Des
Bryant, Chris
Byers, rh Mr. Stephen
Byrne, rh Mr. Liam
Cairns, David
Clark, Paul
Coaker, Mr. Vernon
Cohen, Harry
Cooper, Rosie
Cooper, rh Yvette
Creagh, Mary
Cruddas, Jon
Cryer, Mrs. Ann
David, Mr. Wayne
Dismore, Mr. Andrew
Dobson, rh Frank
Doran, Mr. Frank
Drew, Mr. David
Eagle, Angela
Eagle, Maria
Efford, Clive
Ellman, Mrs. Louise
Engel, Natascha
Fisher, Mark
Fitzpatrick, Jim
Follett, Barbara
Foster, Michael Jabez (Hastings and Rye)
Francis, Dr. Hywel
Gapes, Mike
Gardiner, Barry
Gerrard, Mr. Neil
Gilroy, Linda
Goodman, Helen
Griffith, Nia
Hain, rh Mr. Peter
Hanson, rh Mr. David
Harman, rh Ms Harriet
Healey, rh John
Hill, rh Keith
Hodgson, Mrs. Sharon
Hoon, rh Mr. Geoffrey
Hope, Phil
Hopkins, Kelvin
Howarth, rh Mr. George
Howells, rh Dr. Kim
Hutton, rh Mr. John
Irranca-Davies, Huw
Jenkins, Mr. Brian
Johnson, Ms Diana R.
Jones, Mr. Kevan
Jones, Mr. Martyn
Jowell, rh Tessa
Keeley, Barbara
Keen, Alan
Keen, Ann
Khan, rh Mr. Sadiq
Kidney, Mr. David
Lepper, David
Levitt, Tom
Lewis, Mr. Ivan
Lloyd, Tony
Lucas, Ian
Mackinlay, Andrew
Mann, John
Marshall-Andrews, Mr. Robert
McAvoy, rh Mr. Thomas
McCabe, Steve
McCarthy-Fry, Sarah
McCartney, rh Mr. Ian
Merron, Gillian
Miliband, rh Edward
Moffatt, Laura
Mole, Chris
Morden, Jessica
Mudie, Mr. George
Pearson, Ian
Pelling, Mr. Andrew
Pope, Mr. Greg
Pound, Stephen
Prentice, Mr. Gordon
Primarolo, rh Dawn
Purchase, Mr. Ken
Rammell, Bill
Raynsford, rh Mr. Nick
Reid, rh John
Rooney, Mr. Terry
Ruane, Chris
Seabeck, Alison
Sharma, Mr. Virendra
Sheridan, Jim
Skinner, Mr. Dennis
Slaughter, Mr. Andy
Soulsby, Sir Peter
Spellar, rh Mr. John
Starkey, Dr. Phyllis
Stewart, Ian
Straw, rh Mr. Jack
Stuart, Ms Gisela
Sutcliffe, Mr. Gerry
Tami, Mark
Thomas, Mr. Gareth
Timms, rh Mr. Stephen
Twigg, Derek
Wareing, Mr. Robert N.
Watson, Mr. Tom
Watts, Mr. Dave
Wills, rh Mr. Michael
Wilson, Phil
Winterton, rh Ms Rosie
Wright, Mr. Anthony
Wright, David
Wright, Mr. Iain
Tellers for the Ayes:
Helen Jones and
Kerry McCarthy
NOES
Afriyie, Adam
Ainsworth, Mr. Peter
Arbuthnot, rh Mr. James
Baker, Norman
Beith, rh Sir Alan
Bellingham, Mr. Henry
Bone, Mr. Peter
Boswell, Mr. Tim
Browne, Mr. Jeremy
Burns, Mr. Simon
Burrowes, Mr. David
Burstow, Mr. Paul
Burt, Alistair
Butterfill, Sir John
Cable, Dr. Vincent
Cash, Mr. William
Chope, Mr. Christopher
Clarke, rh Mr. Kenneth
Cox, Mr. Geoffrey
Davies, Philip
Djanogly, Mr. Jonathan
Duddridge, James
Duncan, Alan
Duncan Smith, rh Mr. Iain
Evennett, Mr. David
Field, Mr. Mark
Foster, Mr. Don
Gauke, Mr. David
George, Andrew
Gibb, Mr. Nick
Gidley, Sandra
Gillan, Mrs. Cheryl
Grieve, Mr. Dominic
Gummer, rh Mr. John
Hague, rh Mr. William
Hands, Mr. Greg
Harper, Mr. Mark
Harris, Dr. Evan
Hayes, Mr. John
Heath, Mr. David
Herbert, Nick
Hoban, Mr. Mark
Hollobone, Mr. Philip
Holmes, Paul
Horam, Mr. John
Horwood, Martin
Howard, rh Mr. Michael
Howarth, David
Huhne, Chris
Hunt, Mr. Jeremy
Hurd, Mr. Nick
Jack, rh Mr. Michael
Jackson, Mr. Stewart
Jenkin, Mr. Bernard
Keetch, Mr. Paul
Kirkbride, Miss Julie
Knight, rh Mr. Greg
Lait, Mrs. Jacqui
Lidington, Mr. David
Loughton, Tim
Luff, Peter
Mackay, rh Mr. Andrew
Maples, Mr. John
Mates, rh Mr. Michael
Maude, rh Mr. Francis
McIntosh, Miss Anne
McLoughlin, rh Mr. Patrick
Murrison, Dr. Andrew
Öpik, Lembit
Ottaway, Richard
Penning, Mike
Penrose, John
Randall, Mr. John
Redwood, rh Mr. John
Reid, Mr. Alan
Rennie, Willie
Robertson, Mr. Laurence
Rosindell, Andrew
Russell, Bob
Sanders, Mr. Adrian
Scott, Mr. Lee
Selous, Andrew
Soames, Mr. Nicholas
Spring, Mr. Richard
Stanley, rh Sir John
Steen, Mr. Anthony
Stuart, Mr. Graham
Stunell, Andrew
Swayne, Mr. Desmond
Swire, Mr. Hugo
Syms, Mr. Robert
Taylor, David
Turner, Mr. Andrew
Tyrie, Mr. Andrew
Vara, Mr. Shailesh
Villiers, Mrs. Theresa
Waterson, Mr. Nigel
Webb, Steve
Wiggin, Bill
Willetts, Mr. David
Willott, Jenny
Winterton, Ann
Winterton, Sir Nicholas
Younger-Ross, Richard
Tellers for the Noes:
Angela Watkinson and
Mr. Rob Wilson Question accordingly agreed to. 25 Jun 2009 : Column 1031
NORTH eaST REGIONAL GRAND COMMITTEE
Motion made, and Question put forthwith (Standing Order No.117A(3)),
That the North East Regional Grand Committee shall meet in Middlesbrough on Friday 25 September between 10.30 am and 1.30 pm to take questions under Standing Order No. 117B (Regional Grand Committees (questions for oral answer)) and to hold a general debate on the regional economy: tackling the recession. (Mr. Watts . )
25 Jun 2009 : Column 1032 The House divided: Ayes 121, Noes 100.
Anderson, Mr. David
Austin, Mr. Ian
Baird, Vera
Balls, rh Ed
Battle, rh John
Bayley, Hugh
Begg, Miss Anne
Blackman-Woods, Dr. Roberta
Bradshaw, rh Mr. Ben
Brennan, Kevin
Brown, Lyn
Browne, rh Des
Bryant, Chris
Byers, rh Mr. Stephen
Byrne, rh Mr. Liam
Cairns, David
Clark, Paul
Coaker, Mr. Vernon
Cohen, Harry
Cooper, Rosie
Cooper, rh Yvette
Creagh, Mary
Cruddas, Jon
Cryer, Mrs. Ann
David, Mr. Wayne
Dismore, Mr. Andrew
Dobson, rh Frank
Doran, Mr. Frank
Drew, Mr. David
Eagle, Angela
Eagle, Maria
Efford, Clive
Engel, Natascha
Fisher, Mark
Fitzpatrick, Jim
Follett, Barbara
Foster, Michael Jabez (Hastings and Rye)
Gapes, Mike
Gardiner, Barry
Gerrard, Mr. Neil
Gilroy, Linda
Goodman, Helen
Griffith, Nia
Hain, rh Mr. Peter
Hanson, rh Mr. David
Harman, rh Ms Harriet
Healey, rh John
Hill, rh Keith
Hodgson, Mrs. Sharon
Hoon, rh Mr. Geoffrey
Hope, Phil
Hopkins, Kelvin
Howarth, rh Mr. George
Hutton, rh Mr. John
Jenkins, Mr. Brian
Johnson, Ms Diana R.
Jones, Mr. Kevan
Jones, Mr. Martyn
Jowell, rh Tessa
Keeley, Barbara
Keen, Alan
Keen, Ann
Khan, rh Mr. Sadiq
Kidney, Mr. David
Lepper, David
Levitt, Tom
Lewis, Mr. Ivan
Lloyd, Tony
Lucas, Ian
Mackinlay, Andrew
Mann, John
Marshall-Andrews, Mr. Robert
McAvoy, rh Mr. Thomas
McCabe, Steve
McCarthy-Fry, Sarah
McCartney, rh Mr. Ian
Merron, Gillian
Miliband, rh Edward
Moffatt, Laura
Mole, Chris
Morden, Jessica
Mudie, Mr. George
Pearson, Ian
Pelling, Mr. Andrew
Pope, Mr. Greg
Pound, Stephen
Prentice, Mr. Gordon
Primarolo, rh Dawn
Purchase, Mr. Ken
Rammell, Bill
Raynsford, rh Mr. Nick
Reid, rh John
Seabeck, Alison
Sharma, Mr. Virendra
Sheridan, Jim
Skinner, Mr. Dennis
Slaughter, Mr. Andy
Smith, rh Angela E. (Basildon)
Soulsby, Sir Peter
Spellar, rh Mr. John
Starkey, Dr. Phyllis
Stewart, Ian
Straw, rh Mr. Jack
Stuart, Ms Gisela
Sutcliffe, Mr. Gerry
Tami, Mark
Taylor, David
Thomas, Mr. Gareth
Timms, rh Mr. Stephen
Touhig, rh Mr. Don
Twigg, Derek
Wareing, Mr. Robert N.
Watson, Mr. Tom
Watts, Mr. Dave
Wills, rh Mr. Michael
Wilson, Phil
Winterton, rh Ms Rosie
Woolas, Mr. Phil
Wright, Mr. Anthony
Wright, David
Wright, Mr. Iain
Tellers for the Ayes:
Helen Jones and
Kerry McCarthy NOES
Afriyie, Adam
Ainsworth, Mr. Peter
Arbuthnot, rh Mr. James
Beith, rh Sir Alan
Bellingham, Mr. Henry
Bone, Mr. Peter
Boswell, Mr. Tim
Browne, Mr. Jeremy
Burns, Mr. Simon
Burrowes, Mr. David
Burstow, Mr. Paul
Burt, Alistair
Butterfill, Sir John
Cable, Dr. Vincent
Cash, Mr. William
Chope, Mr. Christopher
Clarke, rh Mr. Kenneth
Cox, Mr. Geoffrey
Davies, Philip
Djanogly, Mr. Jonathan
Duddridge, James
Duncan, Alan
Duncan Smith, rh Mr. Iain
Evennett, Mr. David
Field, Mr. Mark
Foster, Mr. Don
Francois, Mr. Mark
Gauke, Mr. David
Gibb, Mr. Nick
Gidley, Sandra
Gillan, Mrs. Cheryl
Grieve, Mr. Dominic
Gummer, rh Mr. John
Hands, Mr. Greg
Harper, Mr. Mark
Harris, Dr. Evan
Hayes, Mr. John
Heath, Mr. David
Herbert, Nick
Hoban, Mr. Mark
Hollobone, Mr. Philip
Holmes, Paul
Horam, Mr. John
Horwood, Martin
Howard, rh Mr. Michael
Howarth, David
Huhne, Chris
Hurd, Mr. Nick
Jack, rh Mr. Michael
Jackson, Mr. Stewart
Jenkin, Mr. Bernard
Keetch, Mr. Paul
Kirkbride, Miss Julie
Knight, rh Mr. Greg
Lait, Mrs. Jacqui
Lidington, Mr. David
Loughton, Tim
Luff, Peter
Mackay, rh Mr. Andrew
Maples, Mr. John
Mates, rh Mr. Michael
Maude, rh Mr. Francis
McIntosh, Miss Anne
McLoughlin, rh Mr. Patrick
Murrison, Dr. Andrew
Öpik, Lembit
Ottaway, Richard
Penning, Mike
Penrose, John
Randall, Mr. John
Redwood, rh Mr. John
Reid, Mr. Alan
Rennie, Willie
Robertson, Mr. Laurence
Rosindell, Andrew
Russell, Bob
Scott, Mr. Lee
Selous, Andrew
Soames, Mr. Nicholas
Spring, Mr. Richard
Stanley, rh Sir John
Steen, Mr. Anthony
Stuart, Mr. Graham
Stunell, Andrew
Swayne, Mr. Desmond
Swire, Mr. Hugo
Syms, Mr. Robert
Turner, Mr. Andrew
Tyrie, Mr. Andrew
Vara, Mr. Shailesh
Villiers, Mrs. Theresa
Waterson, Mr. Nigel
Webb, Steve
Whittingdale, Mr. John
Wiggin, Bill
Willetts, Mr. David
Willott, Jenny
Winterton, Ann
Winterton, Sir Nicholas
Younger-Ross, Richard
Tellers for the Noes:
Angela Watkinson and
Mr. Rob Wilson Question accordingly agreed to. 25 Jun 2009 : Column 1033
West midlands regional grand committee
Motion made, and Question put forthwith (Standing Order No.117A(3)) ,
That the West Midlands Regional Grand Committee shall meet in Sandwell on Thursday 8 October between 6.30 pm and 9.00 pm to take questions under Standing Order No. 117B (Regional Grand Committees (questions for oral answer)) and to hold a general debate on the economy: building the West Midlands future. ( Mr. Watts.)
Anderson, Mr. David
Atkins, Charlotte
Austin, Mr. Ian
Baird, Vera
Balls, rh Ed
Battle, rh John
Bayley, Hugh
Begg, Miss Anne
Blackman-Woods, Dr. Roberta
Bradshaw, rh Mr. Ben
Brennan, Kevin
Brown, Lyn
Browne, rh Des
Bryant, Chris
Byers, rh Mr. Stephen
Byrne, rh Mr. Liam
Cairns, David
Clark, Paul
Coaker, Mr. Vernon
Cohen, Harry
Cooper, Rosie
Cooper, rh Yvette
Creagh, Mary
Cruddas, Jon
Cryer, Mrs. Ann
David, Mr. Wayne
Dismore, Mr. Andrew
Dobson, rh Frank
Doran, Mr. Frank
Drew, Mr. David
Eagle, Angela
Eagle, Maria
Efford, Clive
Engel, Natascha
Fitzpatrick, Jim
Follett, Barbara
Foster, Michael Jabez (Hastings and Rye)
Gapes, Mike
Gardiner, Barry
Gerrard, Mr. Neil
Gilroy, Linda
Goodman, Helen
Griffith, Nia
Grogan, Mr. John
Hain, rh Mr. Peter
Hanson, rh Mr. David
Harman, rh Ms Harriet
Healey, rh John
Hill, rh Keith
Hodgson, Mrs. Sharon
Hoon, rh Mr. Geoffrey
Hope, Phil
Hopkins, Kelvin
Howarth, rh Mr. George
Hutton, rh Mr. John
Jenkins, Mr. Brian
Johnson, Ms Diana R.
Jones, Mr. Kevan
Jones, Mr. Martyn
Jowell, rh Tessa
Keeley, Barbara
Keen, Alan
Keen, Ann
Khan, rh Mr. Sadiq
Kidney, Mr. David
Lepper, David
Levitt, Tom
Lewis, Mr. Ivan
Lloyd, Tony
Lucas, Ian
Mackinlay, Andrew
Mann, John
Marshall-Andrews, Mr. Robert
McAvoy, rh Mr. Thomas
McCabe, Steve
McCarthy-Fry, Sarah
McCartney, rh Mr. Ian
McGovern, Mr. Jim
Merron, Gillian
Miliband, rh Edward
Moffatt, Laura
Mole, Chris
Morden, Jessica
Mudie, Mr. George
Pearson, Ian
Pelling, Mr. Andrew
Pope, Mr. Greg
Pound, Stephen
Prentice, Mr. Gordon
Primarolo, rh Dawn
Purchase, Mr. Ken
Rammell, Bill
Raynsford, rh Mr. Nick
Reid, rh John
Ruane, Chris
Seabeck, Alison
Sharma, Mr. Virendra
Sheridan, Jim
Skinner, Mr. Dennis
Slaughter, Mr. Andy
Smith, rh Angela E. (Basildon)
Soulsby, Sir Peter
Spellar, rh Mr. John
Starkey, Dr. Phyllis
Stewart, Ian
Straw, rh Mr. Jack
Stuart, Ms Gisela
Sutcliffe, Mr. Gerry
Tami, Mark
Taylor, David
Taylor, Dr. Richard
Thomas, Mr. Gareth
Timms, rh Mr. Stephen
Twigg, Derek
Wareing, Mr. Robert N.
Watson, Mr. Tom
Watts, Mr. Dave
Wills, rh Mr. Michael
Wilson, Phil
Winterton, rh Ms Rosie
Woolas, Mr. Phil
Wright, Mr. Anthony
Wright, David
Wright, Mr. Iain
Tellers for the Ayes:
Helen Jones and
Kerry McCarthy NOES
Afriyie, Adam
Ainsworth, Mr. Peter
Arbuthnot, rh Mr. James
Baker, Norman
Beith, rh Sir Alan
Bellingham, Mr. Henry
Bone, Mr. Peter
Boswell, Mr. Tim
Browne, Mr. Jeremy
Burns, Mr. Simon
Burrowes, Mr. David
Burstow, Mr. Paul
Burt, Alistair
Butterfill, Sir John
Cable, Dr. Vincent
Cash, Mr. William
Chope, Mr. Christopher
Clarke, rh Mr. Kenneth
Cox, Mr. Geoffrey
Davies, Philip
Djanogly, Mr. Jonathan
Duddridge, James
Duncan, Alan
Duncan Smith, rh Mr. Iain
Evennett, Mr. David
Field, Mr. Mark
Foster, Mr. Don
Francois, Mr. Mark
Gauke, Mr. David
Gibb, Mr. Nick
Gidley, Sandra
Goodman, Mr. Paul
Grieve, Mr. Dominic
Gummer, rh Mr. John
Hands, Mr. Greg
Harper, Mr. Mark
Harris, Dr. Evan
Hayes, Mr. John
Heath, Mr. David
Herbert, Nick
Hoban, Mr. Mark
Hogg, rh Mr. Douglas
Hollobone, Mr. Philip
Holmes, Paul
Horam, Mr. John
Horwood, Martin
Howard, rh Mr. Michael
Howarth, David
Huhne, Chris
Hurd, Mr. Nick
Jack, rh Mr. Michael
Jackson, Mr. Stewart
Jenkin, Mr. Bernard
Keetch, Mr. Paul
Kirkbride, Miss Julie
Lait, Mrs. Jacqui
Lidington, Mr. David
Loughton, Tim
Luff, Peter
Mackay, rh Mr. Andrew
Maples, Mr. John
Mates, rh Mr. Michael
Maude, rh Mr. Francis
McIntosh, Miss Anne
McLoughlin, rh Mr. Patrick
Murrison, Dr. Andrew
Öpik, Lembit
Ottaway, Richard
Penning, Mike
Penrose, John
Randall, Mr. John
Reid, Mr. Alan
Rennie, Willie
Robertson, Mr. Laurence
Rosindell, Andrew
Russell, Bob
Scott, Mr. Lee
Selous, Andrew
Soames, Mr. Nicholas
Spring, Mr. Richard
Stanley, rh Sir John
Stuart, Mr. Graham
Stunell, Andrew
Swayne, Mr. Desmond
Swinson, Jo
Swire, Mr. Hugo
Syms, Mr. Robert
Turner, Mr. Andrew
Tyrie, Mr. Andrew
Vara, Mr. Shailesh
Villiers, Mrs. Theresa
Waterson, Mr. Nigel
Whittingdale, Mr. John
Wiggin, Bill
Willetts, Mr. David
Willott, Jenny
Winterton, Ann
Winterton, Sir Nicholas
Younger-Ross, Richard
Tellers for the Noes:
Angela Watkinson and
Mr. Rob Wilson Question accordingly agreed to. 25 Jun 2009 : Column 1034
25 Jun 2009 : Column 1035
Petition
School Transport (Hertfordshire)
5.43 pm
Mike Penning (Hemel Hempstead) (Con):
It is a great pleasure to present the following petition on behalf of the residents of the beautiful village of Little Gaddesden in my constituency concerning the school bus service from Little Gaddesden to Tring.
The petition states:
The Petition of residents of Little Gaddesden, Hertfordshire, and others,
Declares that residents of the village are deeply unsatisfied with the current allocation of free school transport from the village of Little Gaddesden to Tring school; further declares that the treatment of children living in the Little Gaddesden pupil catchment area for Tring school is unfair and divisive.
The Petitioners therefore request that the House of Commons urges the Government to rectify the situation and provide free school transport for all pupils regardless of the location of their home within the village
And the Petitioners remain, etc.
[P000383]
25 Jun 2009 : Column 1036
Traditional Crafts
Motion made, and Question proposed, That this House do now adjourn. (Mr. Watts.)
5.44 pm
Tom Levitt (High Peak) (Lab):
I know that Members are anxious to get away and enjoy the lovely evening, so I will not delay us any longer than necessary. However, I do believe that traditional crafts in this country have had very little air time, so to speak, on the Floor of the House, and I would like to try to put that right.
Outside the workshop of Mike Turnock, who lives in Whaley Bridge in my constituency, there is a shelter that is evidently home to a community of toads. That is not the purpose of the shelter, however. It is also where Mike keeps his pieces of 5 ft long, 4-by-4 beech woodthe raw material for his family business, which he inherited from his father. Mike takes the beech and, using a band saw, cuts it into strips of about 5 mm thick. He chamfers each end of the strip and places it into a steam bath. This homemade device, powered by the electric elements from four kettles, makes the beech supple and mouldable. Once the beech has been steamed and dried, he bends it around a jig built to his exact requirements so that the ends of the strip overlap significantly. The ends are then nailed into position in an adept and professional manner, using nails of exactly the right length, and the base of a garden sieve or riddle has been created. He then drills the requisite number of holes around the entire perimeter of the riddle, half in a horizontal plane and half perpendicular. These are the basis for the weaving of the sieve itself from steel wire. By the time the web has been created, assisted again by custom-made tools, everything has been finished off safely with no projecting ends and a rim has been placed around the outside of the sieve, it has taken him an hours work.
What Mike has created is a common or garden soil sieve, the like of which may be found in garden centres up and down the country. These are beautiful objects: they are rugged, good to hold, efficient and long lasting, and just so much nicer than the plastic equivalents that so many gardeners use today. In his fathers day there would have been three or four men working in this workshop, and two or three similar workshops not too far away, but not today.
The garden sieve is not the only type of sieve that Mike Turnock makes. He makes larger ones and smaller ones, ones with larger meshes and with finer meshes, and ones designed for separating cockles or shrimps from seawater or even rivets from sand in the Sheffield casting industry. The finest grade sieves are actually easier to make because the smaller mesh is bought in ready made from China. The finest food grade sieves also have their own demands from industry.
I must declare an interest: my mother is now the proud owner of a garden sieve that Mike gave to me on the occasion of my visit to his workshop. Hon. Members may purchase their own from certain garden centres, although the supply is far less than potential demand, as Mike is the only person left in the country making these handmade sieves as far as I know. He only supplies garden centres in two regions of England.