Commons Journal 265

Session 2008-09
Chronological Index
Alphabetical Index - Part I
Alphabetical Index - Part II


[No. 68 Thursday 30 April 2009 ]

The house met at 10.30 am.

PRAYERS.

1 Questions to the Secretary of State for Innovation, Universities and Skills

2 Business Question (Leader of the House)

3 Statement: Sri Lanka (Secretary David Miliband)

4 Members' Allowances

Motion made and Question proposed_

(1) That this House welcomes the Prime Minister's decision of 23 March 2009 to invite the Committee on Standards in Public Life to inquire into Members' allowances;

(2) That it is necessary to recognise the additional costs incurred by hon. Members as a result of the need for them to undertake parliamentary duties both in Westminster and their constituency;

(3) That, in the opinion of this House, any new arrangements relating to Members' allowances ought to_

(a) take account of hon. Members' attendance at Westminster,

(b) be transparent and accountable, and

(c) reduce the existing annual limits on the allowances which hon. Members may claim, producing overall cost savings;

(4) That, to resolve this matter urgently and in a way that will command maximum public support, it would be desirable for the House to have an opportunity to consider any recommendations from the Committee as early as possible._(Ms Harriet Harman.)

Amendment (j) made.

Main Question, as amended, put and agreed to.

Resolved, That this House welcomes the Prime Minister's decision of 23 March 2009 to invite the Committee on Standards in Public Life to inquire into Members' allowances; believes that in order to command maximum public support for change the House should defer its conclusions until after the Committee has reported; and further believes it would be desirable for the House to have an opportunity to consider any recommendations from the Committee as early as possible.

Since it was after 5.00 pm, the Speaker put the remaining Questions necessary to dispose proceedings on the Motions relating to Members' Allowances (Greater London), Registration of Members' Financial Interests, Members' Staff, Members' Allowances (Evidence of Expenditure) and Members Estimate Committee (Amendment of the Green Book) (Order, 29 April).

5 Members' Allowances (Greater London)

Motion made and Question put, That, with effect from 1 April 2010, no distinction shall be made for the purposes of the rules governing Members' allowances between an hon. Member who represents an inner-London constituency and an hon. Member who represents any other constituency the whole of which falls within 20 miles of the Palace of Westminster._(Chris Bryant.)

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The House divided.

Division No. 105.

Ayes: 355 (Tellers: Mr Bob Blizzard, Steve McCabe).

Noes: 39 (Tellers: Mr Greg Knight, Peter Bottomley).

Question accordingly agreed to.

Resolved, That, with effect from 1 April 2010, no distinction shall be made for the purposes of the rules governing Members' allowances between an hon. Member who represents an inner-London constituency and an hon. Member who represents any other constituency the whole of which falls within 20 miles of the Palace of Westminster.

6 Registration of Members' Financial Interests

Motion made and Question put_

(1) That, for the purpose of complying with the Resolution of the House of 22 May 1974 relating to Registration of Members' Financial Interests, in respect of interests falling within Category 1 (Directorships), Category 2 (Remunerated employment, office, profession, etc) or Category 3 (Clients), hon. Members shall furnish the Registrar with the following particulars_

(a) the precise amount of each individual payment made in relation to any interest,

(b) the nature of the work carried out in return for that payment,

(c) the number of hours worked during the period to which the payment relates, and

(d) except where disclosure of the information would be contrary to any legal or established professional duty of privacy or confidentiality, the name and address of the person, organisation or company making the payment;

(2) That such interests shall be registered whether or not their value in any given year exceeds one per cent. of the current Parliamentary salary;

(3) That the provisions of this Resolution shall apply whether or not the interest in question depends essentially upon, or arises out of, the hon. Member's position as a Member of Parliament; and

(4) That the provisions of this Resolution shall come into effect on 1 July 2009._(Chris Bryant.)

The House divided.

Division No. 106.

Ayes: 305 (Tellers: Mr Bob Blizzard, Steve McCabe).

Noes: 31 (Tellers: Peter Bottomley, Mrs Jacqui Lait).

Question accordingly agreed to.

Resolved,

(1) That, for the purpose of complying with the Resolution of the House of 22 May 1974 relating to Registration of Members' Financial Interests, in respect of interests falling within Category 1 (Directorships), Category 2 (Remunerated employment, office, profession, etc) or Category 3 (Clients), hon. Members shall furnish the Registrar with the following particulars_

(a) the precise amount of each individual payment made in relation to any interest,

(b) the nature of the work carried out in return for that payment,

(c) the number of hours worked during the period to which the payment relates, and

(d) except where disclosure of the information would be contrary to any legal or established professional duty of privacy or confidentiality, the name and address of the person, organisation or company making the payment;

(2) That such interests shall be registered whether or not their value in any given year exceeds one per cent. of the current Parliamentary salary;

(3) That the provisions of this Resolution shall apply whether or not the interest in question depends essentially upon, or arises out of, the hon. Member's position as a Member of Parliament; and

(4) That the provisions of this Resolution shall come into effect on 1 July 2009.

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7 Members' Staff

Motion made and Question proposed_

(1) That, in the opinion of this House, staff who work for an hon. Member should be employed by the House, as a personal appointment and managed by the hon. Member; and

(2) That the House of Commons Commission shall consider this decision and make recommendations for its implementation, including any transitional provisions which may be necessary, by 29 October 2009._(Chris Bryant.)

Amendment (a) moved, in line 1, leave out paragraph (1)._(Mr David Heath.)

Question put, That the Amendment be made.

The House divided.

Division No. 107.

Ayes: 96 (Tellers: Sir Robert Smith, Mark Hunter).

Noes: 285 (Tellers: Mr Bob Blizzard, Steve McCabe).

Question accordingly negatived.

Main Question put.

The House divided.

Division No. 108.

Ayes: 280 (Tellers: Steve McCabe, Mr Bob Blizzard).

Noes: 100 (Tellers: Richard Younger-Ross, Mr Andrew Dismore).

Question accordingly agreed to.

Resolved,

(1) That, in the opinion of this House, staff who work for an hon. Member should be employed by the House, as a personal appointment and managed by the hon. Member; and

(2) That the House of Commons Commission shall consider this decision and make recommendations for its implementation, including any transitional provisions which may be necessary, by 29 October 2009.

8 Members' Allowances (Evidence of Expenditure)

Motion made and Question put, That, in respect of any claim for payment made by an hon. Member after 1 July 2009 in relation to any allowance or expenditure for which documentary evidence is required, such evidence shall be required regardless of the sum concerned._(Ms Harriet Harman.)

The House divided.

Division No. 109.

Ayes: 348 (Tellers: Steve McCabe, Mr Bob Blizzard).

Noes: 22 (Tellers: Mr Christopher Chope, Mr Andrew Turner).

Question accordingly agreed to.

Resolved, That, in respect of any claim for payment made by an hon. Member after 1 July 2009 in relation to any allowance or expenditure for which documentary evidence is required, such evidence shall be required regardless of the sum concerned.

9 Members Estimate Committee (Amendment of the Green Book)

Ordered, That Standing Order No. 152D (House of Commons Members Estimate Committee) shall be amended in line 10 by inserting after `House' the words `and the Guide to Members' Allowances known as the Green Book'._(Chris Bryant.)

10 Financial Assistance to Industry

Ordered, That the Motion in the name of Mr Pat McFadden relating to Financial Assistance to Industry shall be treated as if it related to an instrument subject to the provisions of Standing Order No. 118 (Delegated Legislation Committees) in respect of which notice has been given that the instrument be approved._(Ms Diana R. Johnson.)

11 Public Petitions

A Public Petition from members of the British Tamil community, and others, relating to Sri Lanka was presented and read by Tom Brake.

A Public Petition from Chale School and Village Community Association and supporters relating to Schools (Isle of Wight) was presented and read by Mr Andrew Turner.

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12 Adjournment

Subject: Closure of Visteon factory in Basildon (Angela E. Smith).

Resolved, That this House do now adjourn._(Helen Goodman.)

[Adjourned at 6.35 pm until Tuesday 5 May (Resolution, 1 April). ]

Other proceedings

Lords Messages

13 Private Bills

The Lords agree with the Order made by the Commons concerning the

Canterbury City Council Bill,

Leeds City Council Bill,

Nottingham City Council Bill and

Reading Borough Council Bill

set out in their message of 21 April;

and the Lords communicate that they have considered the Commons Message of 21 April in respect of the

Manchester City Council Bill [Lords] and

Bournemouth Borough Council Bill [Lords]

and have come to the following resolution in respect of the said Bills_

That the promoters of the Manchester City Council Bill [Lords] and Bournemouth Borough Council Bill [Lords], which were originally introduced in the House of Lords in Session 2006^07 on 22 January 2007, should have leave to proceed with the Bills in the current Session according to the provisions of House of Lords Standing Order 150B (Revival of Bills).

14 Local Democracy, Economic Development and Construction Bill [Lords]

The Lords have passed a Bill to make provision for the purposes of promoting public involvement in relation to local authorities and other public authorities; to make provision about bodies representing the interests of tenants; to make provision about local freedoms and honorary titles; to make provision about the procedures of local authorities and the audit of entities connected with them; to establish the Boundary Committee for England and to make provision relating to local government boundary and electoral change; to make provision about local and regional development; to amend the law relating to construction contracts; and for connected purposes; to which they desire the agreement of the Commons.

First Reading and Printing of Lords Bills

15 Local Democracy, Economic Development and Construction Bill [Lords]

Bill read the first time; to be read a second time on Tuesday 5 May, and to be printed (Bill 93).

Reports from Select Committees

16 Culture, Media and Sport Committee

The Licensing Act 2003: Sixth Report, to be printed, with the Formal Minutes relating to the Report (HC 492) (Mr John Whittingdale).

17 Health Committee

(1) Top-up Fees: Fourth Report, with written evidence, to be printed, with the Formal Minutes relating to the Report (HC 194-I); and

(2) The use of management consultants by the NHS and the Department of Health: Fifth Report, to be printed, with the Formal Minutes relating to the Report (HC 28)

(Mr Kevin Barron).

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18 Public Administration (Select Committee on)

(1) Executive Pay in the Public Sector:

(i) Evidence, to be printed (HC 304-i);

(ii) Written evidence, to be published;

(2) Outside Appointments to the Senior Civil Service: Written evidence, to be published

(Dr Tony Wright).

[WH, No. 42]  

Sitting in Westminster Hall

The sitting began at 2.30 pm.

Subject: Defra's Darwin Initiative.

Resolved, That the sitting be now adjourned._(Ms Diana R. Johnson.)

[Adjourned at 4.36 pm until Tuesday 5 May. ]

APPENDIX

Papers presented or laid upon the Table:

Papers subject to Negative Resolution:

1 Charities

Charitable Institutions (Fund-Raising) (Amendment) Regulations 2009 (S.I., 2009, No. 1060), dated 21 April 2009 (by Act), with an Explanatory Memorandum (by Command) (Liam Byrne).

2 Defence

(1) Armed Forces (Custody Proceedings) Rules 2009 (S.I., 2009, No. 1098), dated 28 April 2009 (by Act), with an Explanatory Memorandum (by Command) (Mr Secretary Hutton);

(2) Armed Forces (Custody Without Charge) Regulations 2009 (S.I., 2009, No. 1097), dated 28 April 2009 (by Act), with an Explanatory Memorandum (by Command) (Mr Secretary Hutton);

(3) Armed Forces (Prescribed Air Navigation Order Offences) Order 2009 (S.I., 2009, No. 1094), dated 28 April 2009 (by Act), with an Explanatory Memorandum (by Command) (Mr Secretary Hutton);

(4) Armed Forces (Service of Process in Maintenance Proceedings) Regulations 2009 (S.I., 2009, No. 1093), dated 28 April 2009 (by Act), with an Explanatory Memorandum (by Command) (Mr Secretary Hutton); and

(5) Service Custody and Service of Relevant Sentences Rules 2009 (S.I., 2009, No. 1096), dated 28 April 2009 (by Act), with an Explanatory Memorandum (by Command) (Mr Secretary Hutton).

3 Tribunals and Inquiries

(1) First-tier Tribunal and Upper Tribunal (Chambers) (Amendment No. 2) Order 2009 (S.I., 2009, No. 1021), dated 28 April 2009 (by Act), with an Explanatory Memorandum (by Command) (Secretary Jack Straw); and

(2) Upper Tribunal (Lands Chamber) Fees Order 2009 (S.I., 2009, No. 1114), dated 27 April 2009 (by Act), with an Explanatory Memorandum (by Command) (Secretary Jack Straw).

Other Papers:

4 Reserve Forces

Report under section 56(7) of the Reserve Forces Act 1996 on the making of a call-out order for Cyprus under section 56(1) of that Act, dated 30 April 2009 (by Act) (Mr Secretary Hutton).

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5 Treasury

Treasury Minute, dated 30 April 2009, concerning financial support for Dunfermline Building Society (by Command) (Mr Chancellor of the Exchequer).

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