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Apprenticeships, Skills, Children and Learning Bill |
The Committee consisted of the following Members:Chris Shaw, James Davies,
Committee Clerks † attended
the
Committee WitnessesRichard
Wainer, Head of Education and Skills, Confederation of British
Industry John Lucas, Schools Policy
Adviser, British Chamber of Commerce Tom
Wilson, Head of Organisation and Services Department, Trades Union
Congress Keith Marshall, Chair of the
Qualifications Reform Strategic Group, Alliance of Sector Skills
Council and Chief Executive of
SummitSkills Julian Gravatt, Assistant
Chief Exective, Association of
Colleges Ann Robinson, Associate
Director for Sixth Form Issues and Sixth Form Colleges, Association of
Colleges Graham Moore, Chairman, 157
Group David Igoe, Executive Chair, Sixth
Form Colleges Forum Ruth Serwotka, PCS
Group President Learning and Skills
Council Alan Tuckett, Director, National
Institute for Adult and Continuing
Education Public Bill CommitteeTuesday 3 March 2009(Morning)[Mr. Christopher Chope in the Chair]Apprenticeships, Skills, Children and Learning Bill10.30
am
The
Chairman: I have a few preliminary announcements. I
apologise that we are in a less spacious room than we would wish. That
is due to the pressure on space. The Speaker’s Committee is
sitting today and it has priority for the larger room for which we made
a bid. Hon. Members may remove their jackets during sittings if they
wish. Mobile phones, pagers and so on must be turned
off. I
remind the Committee that there are money and ways and means
resolutions in connection with the Bill, copies of which are available
in the room. Adequate notice must be given of amendments for them to be
eligible for selection. For Tuesday sittings, amendments must be tabled
by the rise of the House the previous Thursday. For Thursday sittings,
amendments must be tabled by the previous Monday. As a general rule,
neither I nor my co-Chairman, Mrs. Humble, will accept
starred
amendments. Not
everyone is familiar with the process of taking oral evidence in Public
Bill Committees so I shall explain how we will proceed. We will first
consider the programme motion. That debate is limited to half an hour.
We will proceed to a motion to report written evidence and a motion to
permit the Committee to deliberate in private in advance of oral
evidence sessions. I hope that those motions will be taken formally.
Assuming that the motion to sit in private is agreed to, the Committee
will move into private session. Once we have deliberated, witnesses and
members of the public will be invited back into the room and the oral
evidence session will commence. We estimate that that will happen at
about 11
o’clock. If
the Committee agrees to the programme motion, the Committee will hear
oral evidence today, on Thursday and on next Tuesday morning before
reverting to the more familiar clause-by-clause scrutiny next
week.
That
— (1)
the Committee shall (in addition to its first meeting at
10.30 am on Tuesday 3 March)
meet— (a) at 4.00 pm on Tuesday 3
March; (b) at 9.00 am and 1.00
pm on Thursday 5 March; (c) at
10.30 am and 4.00 pm on Tuesday 10
March; (d) at 9.00 am and 1.00
pm on Thursday 12 March; (e) at
10.30 am and 4.00 pm on Tuesday 17
March; (f) at 9.00 am and 1.00
pm on Thursday 19 March; (g) at
10.30 am and 4.00 pm on Tuesday 24
March; (h) at 9.00 am and 1.00
pm on Thursday 26 March; (i) at
10.30 am and 4.00 pm on Tuesday 31
March; (2)
the Committee shall hear oral evidence in accordance with the following
Table:
TABLE (3)
proceedings on consideration of the Bill in Committee shall be taken in
the following order: Clauses 1 to 39, Schedule 1, Clauses 40
to 56, Schedule 2, Clause 57, Schedule 3, Clauses 58 to 78, Schedule 4,
Clauses 79 to 93, Schedule 5, Clauses 94 to 120, Schedule 6, Clause
121, Schedule 7, Clause 122, Schedule 8, Clauses 123 and 124, Schedule
9, Clauses 125 to 164, Schedule 10, Clause 166, Schedule 11, Clauses
167 to 182, Clauses 165 and 183, Schedule 12, Clauses 184 to 191,
Schedule 13, Clauses 192 and 193, Schedule 14, Clauses 194 to 212,
Schedule 15, Clauses 213 to 252, Schedule 16, Clauses 253 to 256, new
Clauses, new Schedules, remaining proceedings on the
Bill; (4) the
proceedings shall (so far as not previously concluded) be brought to a
conclusion at 7.00 pm on Tuesday 31
March. We
all look forward to serving under your chairmanship during the oral
evidence sessions and beyond, Mr. Chope. The programme
motion was tabled by the Programming Sub-Committee, which met on
Thursday and yesterday. It is printed on the amendment paper for the
Committee. With your indulgence, Mr. Chope, I would like to
move a small amendment to the
motion. I
beg to move an amendment, in the third column of the Table in paragraph
(2), by the third entry for Thursday 5 March, leave out
“Families Need
Fathers;”. I
move that amendment at this late stage because Families Need Fathers is
unable to attend. I hope that the Committee
understands.
Mr.
John Hayes (South Holland and The Deepings) (Con): May I
use this opportunity to welcome you to the Chair, Mr. Chope?
It will no doubt be a delight to serve under your chairmanship, as
always. We
understand the reason for the amendment to the programme motion and
look forward to this stage of our considerations and to the scrutiny of
the
Bill. We
are happy with the programme motion and are grateful to the Minister
and his colleagues for their work in putting the list of witnesses
together. They have dealt with some of our initial concerns on that
issue. Amendment
agreed
to. Main
Question, as amended, put and agreed
to. Ordered, That
— (1)
the Committee shall (in addition to its first meeting at
10.30 am on Tuesday 3 March)
meet— (a) at 4.00 pm on Tuesday 3
March; (b) at 9.00 am and 1.00
pm on Thursday 5 March; (c) at
10.30 am and 4.00 pm on Tuesday 10
March; (d) at 9.00 am and 1.00
pm on Thursday 12 March; (e) at
10.30 am and 4.00 pm on Tuesday 17
March; (f) at 9.00 am and 1.00
pm on Thursday 19 March; (g) at
10.30 am and 4.00 pm on Tuesday 24
March; (h) at 9.00 am and 1.00
pm on Thursday 26 March; (i) at
10.30 am and 4.00 pm on Tuesday 31
March; (2)
the Committee shall hear oral evidence in accordance with the following
Table: TABLE (3)
proceedings on consideration of the Bill in Committee shall be taken in
the following order: Clauses 1 to 39, Schedule 1, Clauses 40
to 56, Schedule 2, Clause 57, Schedule 3, Clauses 58 to 78, Schedule 4,
Clauses 79 to 93, Schedule 5, Clauses 94 to 120, Schedule 6, Clause
121, Schedule 7, Clause 122, Schedule 8, Clauses 123 and 124, Schedule
9, Clauses 125 to 164, Schedule 10, Clause 166, Schedule 11, Clauses
167 to 182, Clauses 165 and 183, Schedule 12, Clauses 184 to 191,
Schedule 13, Clauses 192 and 193, Schedule 14, Clauses 194 to 212,
Schedule 15, Clauses 213 to 252, Schedule 16, Clauses 253 to 256, new
Clauses, new Schedules, remaining proceedings on the
Bill; (4) the
proceedings shall (so far as not previously concluded) be brought to a
conclusion at 7.00 pm on Tuesday 31
March. Resolved, That,
subject to the discretion of the Chairman, any written evidence
received by the Committee shall be reported to the House for
publication.—(Jim Knight.)
Written evidence
to be reported to the
HouseAS
01 Skill: National Bureau for Students with
Disabilities AS
02 157
Group AS
03 Sixth Form Colleges
Forum AS
04 Association of
Colleges AS
06 Public and Commercial Services Union
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