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Memorandum submitted by the British Association of Pool Table Operators (BAPTO)

REVIEW OF THE T&ISC REPORT INTO PUBCO 2004

  BACTA is a long established (1975) trade association representing suppliers of coin operated Pool tables, Juke boxes, AWP machines etc.

  We gave written evidence to the original Trade & Industry Select Committee (TISC) in 2004.

  We are making this submission on the assumption the committees purpose is to look into what action has been taken by the pubcos following the recommendations made by the TISC in December 2004, we therefore feel there is no reason to re-run the arguments that led to that committees recommendations, the recommendation that concerns us is recommendation 19 (paragraph 129) that reads as follows:

  The machine tie improves tenants' takings from amusement with prizes machines (AWP). However, as free of machine tie tenants retain 100% of these takings as income, while tied tenants by pubcos own admission receive an average 50% of these takings, it appears from the information the pubcos themselves submitted that in many cases free of tie tenants make more money from their second tier machines than tied tenants do from their more up-to-date models. In our opinion, pubcos do not add sufficient extra value from their deals to justify their claims to 50% of the takings from AWP machines. We remain unconvinced that the benefits of the AWP machine tie outweigh the income tenants forgo and we recommend that the AWP machine tie be removed.

  Our hope is to see this recommendation made mandatory.

  We are however alarmed that you state when announcing the new inquiry "in 2004 the T&ISC published a report in which most notably it concluded that" you then list five points and do not even mention the removal of the "machine tie" which was probably the strongest recommendation the TISC made it was totally unambiguous. We recommend that the AWP machine tie be removed. We hope in your deliberations you give this subject the importance it deserves and do not sweep it under the carpet.

  We give the following examples to support our case.

1.  THE PUBCOS HAVE ACTUALLY INCREASED THE ROYALTIES THEY TAKE FROM MACHINE SUPPLIERS

  The pubcos as opposed to having removed royalty payments have in actual fact increased the level of these payments as follows:


20042008


Punch Taverns£11.00 per Week per Machine £16.00 per Week per Machine
Enterprise Inns£22.00 per Week per Machine £24.00 per Week per Machine



2.  THE PUBCOS NOW TAKE A BIGGER % OF AWP TAKINGS THAN THEY DID IN 2004

2004

  Machine taking £100.00 per week after outgoings is divided as follows £22.00 Royalty (from machine supplier) to pubcos and £50.00 each to the pubco and licensee. But then the licensee share is put in to the rental calculation and the pubco takes a further 50% cut.Total machine income £122.00 (Inc £22.00 Royalty) The pubco gets £97.00 (£22.00 royalty + £50.00 + £25.00 in rent)

    = £79.6% of takings to pubco

2008

  But by 2008 the machine take has fallen by 30% but the royalty has increased to £24.00 per week machine now taking £70.00 per week and is divided as follows £24.00 royalty (from machine supplier) to pubco and £35.00 each to the pubco and licensee but then the licensee share is put into the rental calculation and the pubco takes a further 50% from the licensee share & RPI, Total machine income £94.00 (Inc £24.00 royalty) The pubcos gets £86.00 (£24.00 royalty + £35.00 + £27.00 in rent after PRI)

    = 91.4% of taking to pubco

3.  MORE PUBCOS THAN EVER APPLY A MACHINE TIE

  The machine tie is now employed by almost all pubcos large and small across the full range of amusement equipment to be found in pubs. All these pubcos realise it is the easiest way to increase the pubcos income at the expense of their tenants and the "approved suppliers" are willing accomplices.

4.  WHAT VALUE IS ADDED TO ANCILLARY EQUIPMENT BY THE PUBCOS

  The pubcos defence for retaining the machine tie is they "add value" to AWP machine takings. What value do they add to Pool Tables, Juke Boxes, S.W.P's to which they still apply the machine tie and take royalties and a share of the cash box. The money they take from these machines is totally at the expense of the tenants for no benefits at all to those tenants.

5.  THE COST OF MAINTAINING MACHINE TIE

  There is an whole tier of beaurocracy that has to be financed to operate the machine tie, these include machine directors, MVM's (machine vending managers) outside companies to whom the machine suppliers returns are sent, amusement machine suppliers have to employ staff to prepare the paperwork to be sent to the companies, this whole raft of expense which would add up to millions of pounds a year has come from cash boxes of the machines, a large proportion of this money should be going to pubco tenants not into the profits of the pubcos if this was not the case more tenants might be able to survive in their pubs and maybe make a profit.

CONCLUSION

  Publicans of all descriptions are feeling the effects of the current financial climate and many are struggling to survive, BAPTO members see many pubs closing most of them pubs owned by pubcos. We are not suggesting that the ending of the machine tie would prevent all these closures but it would certainly make a big difference to many tenants.

  The main beneficiaries of the present system are the pubcos who by one means or another are taking up to 90% of AWP machine takings (as shown in previous examples) and the small number of machine operators who now supply the pubcos (approximately 15 % of all potential suppliers).

  The main losers in the system are the pubco tenants and the 85% of amusement machine suppliers who are denied access to this market. The people who would benefit most from the ending of the machine tie would be the pubco tenants and they are the ones who need to benefit most. For some tenants the removal of the machine tie could make the difference between carrying on and "throwing the keys in".

  The only people in the amusement machine industry that support the machine tie are people and companies that have historically earned their living from the system as it is.

  The issue of the machine supply to pubco tenants should be conducted between two parties the machine supplier and the tenant not involving a third party (the pubco) who's intent is to obtain as much money from the transaction as is possible.

  The pubco will do everything in their power to maintain the machine tie no matter how many millions of pounds it would cost. This fact alone illustrates the value of the machine tie to the pubco.

  There will undoubtedly be a temptation for the committee to fudge the machine tie issue but if the committee fail to end the machine tie they will be failing in their duty.

  The final comment can be left to the TISC chairman Martin O'Neill.

  Committee chairman Martin O'Neill was sufficiently moved to say "that the issue of machine income was the last blatant example of the profiteering that had been common place amoung pub landlord companies historically".

January 2009





 
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