Spring Supplementary Estimate 2008-09 - Defence Committee Contents


Further memorandum from the Ministry of Defence

Government Response to the Committee's First Report of Session 2008-09: Winter Supplementary Estimates 2008-09 (HC 52)

  The Government welcomes the Committee's report on the Ministry of Defence Winter Supplementary Estimates 2008-09, published on 15 December 2008, as HC52. The Government's response to the conclusions and recommendations, which were contained in the Committee's Report is set out below.

  1.   We are pleased that the Government, retaining the general title of "Operations and Peacekeeping" for Request for Resources 2, in its Estimates now includes direct reference to "current operations in Iraq, Afghanistan and the Balkans". (Paragraph 2)

  Noted. The Department strives for continuous improvement in the content and quality of its Estimates, and accompanying Estimates.

  2.   We commend the MoD for including in these figures indirect as well as direct resource costs which was not the case in last year's Winter Supplementary Estimates.(Paragraph 3)

  The Department is fully committed to present in the House the most accurate, and fullest, forecast of operational costs at the earliest opportunity.

  3.   We remain concerned at the very short amount of time available to committees such as our own, between the laying of the Supplementary Estimates and the decision of the House to approve them, to carry out careful and thorough analysis of these Estimates and engage in a dialogue with Government Departments over any areas of uncertainty or concern. We remain hopeful that some mechanism will be introduced that will permit a better examination of departmental estimates in the future than what currently obtains. (Paragraph 4)

  As set out in the Government response to the Committee's observations in its combined 2007-08 SSE and 2008-09 Main Estimates Report, Standing Orders of the House dictate that a minimum of 14 days must elapse between presentation and Parliament's approval of an Estimate. This was increased from "eight clear days" in 2004 as part of a package of changes to the Estimates process. Production of the Supplementary Estimates is already subject to an extremely tight timetable throughout and a greater gap than this would not be practical. The Main Estimates are not subject to such constraints and are usually presented two months or more before the parliamentary consideration, which for this year is planned for 2 July 2009. The Treasury-led Alignment Project, which is looking at the various public spending controls (primarily budgets, Estimates and accounts), aims to simplify the process by greatly reducing the differences between the various controls. This will itself help Committees in the scrutiny of Departmental spending plans.

  4.   For the sake of clarity we call on the MoD in future to provide End Year Flexibility tables in its future Estimates memoranda, as recommended by the Treasury's guidance. (Paragraph 5)

  The Department has incorporated a Year End Flexibility Table in its 2008-09 Spring Supplementary Estimates Memorandum.

  5.   We would be grateful for the MoD to provide us with an explanation for the changes in the Estimates relating to the Royal Hospital Chelsea in its response to this Report.

(Paragraph 6)

  The £9.2 million Royal Hospital Chelsea re-allocation from Voted expenditure to Non-Voted expenditure reflects a re-classification of costs as required by Treasury, which we noted in para 2.4 of our 08/09 Main Estimates Memoranda. This re-alignment erroneously penalised the Department by reducing its DEL provision. This re-allocation has been reversed in the Spring Supplementary Estimate. There was no overall impact on our request for resources. The additional £1 million funding request comprised increased superannuation payment for personnel; increased utility costs; increased infirmary operating costs, including provision of furniture.

  6.   We would like an explanation from the Ministry of Defence for this significant reduction in the Departmental Expenditure Limit for Science Innovation and Technology and whether it signals a cut in spending, and—if so—what the consequences of this reduction will be. (Paragraph 7)

  When Main Estimates were submitted to Parliament, the Department's internal planning round had not been completed. Therefore the figures were to some extent provisional. The Winter Supplementary Estimate reflected the final outcome of the planning round. No cuts have been made to any research programmes as a consequence of this adjustment.

  7.   The Winter Supplementary Estimates estimate the additional costs of operations in Iraq and Afghanistan in 2008-09 as £1,397 million and £2,318 million respectively. (Paragraph 8)

  Noted.

  8.   While we are aware that in future memoranda accompanying its Main Estimate the MoD intends to give a more robust sense of expected operational costs over that Financial Year, we are disappointed that the figure given in its Main Estimate memorandum for this Financial Year appears so loose. (Paragraph 9)

  The Department will seek a formal request for resources in its 2009-10 Main Estimates for Peace-keeping and Operations. Details of our request will be incorporated in the accompanying Estimates memorandum. Inevitably, circumstances may change during the financial year, for example, to reflect any changes in operational tempo. The Department will seek additional provision in the Supplementary rounds as required.

  9.   We restate our hope that the MoD manifests no complacency with regard to its forecast of operational costs made early in each Financial Year. (Paragraph 10)

  The Department strives to present taught and realistic forecasts of operational costs.

  10.   We understand the volatility that inevitably accompanies forecasts for operational costs. However we remain to be convinced that these forecasts are as robust as they ought to be. (Paragraph 11)

  The Department is always striving to make its forecasting processes as robust as possible as we stated in response 4 to the Supplementary Memorandum contained in the HCDC 2008-09 Main Estimate Report. The Department intends to undertake a further review of processes in 2009-10 in time to inform Supplementary Estimates.

  11.   We are aware that Treasury processes make the preparation of the Supplementary Estimates a longer process than is ideal for the presentation of up-to-date costs. Nonetheless we continue to believe it unsatisfactory that the House is asked to agree to Supplementary Estimates that represent such out-of-date forecasts of costs for operations overseas without it having sight of any more up-to-date assessments of those costs. (Paragraph 12)

  12.   We would be grateful if the MoD could provide us with the working forecast used to prepare the Spring Supplementary Estimates in whatever form it considers most appropriate early in the New Year. The MoD might also look to attach to its Winter Supplementary Estimates memorandum in future an indication of this forecast, if it is available by then, or make it available to us before the Estimates are considered in the House each Winter. (Paragraph 13)

  The Department has now provided a more current forecast of operations costs before the scheduled publication date of the 2008-09 Spring Supplementary Estimates.

  13.   We hope that the interim forecast we have asked for from the MoD and the estimate of operational costs which will appear in a couple of months time in the Spring Supplementary Estimates will show less significant changes than has been the case in the last two Financial Years. (Paragraph 14)

  Noted.

  14.   We call on the Ministry of Defence to provide us in its response to this Report with an explanation for the continuing high level of costs in Iraq, and in particular for the significant increases to military personnel and equipment support costs. (Paragraph 15)

  There are currently some 4,100 UK troops in Southern Iraq who are principally engaged in completing the task of mentoring and training the 14th Division of the Iraqi Army in Basra. Our troops, together with Royal Navy, are also continuing to provide security for Iraq's offshore energy infrastructure, as well as helping to train the Iraqi Navy. The Royal Air Force currently provides essential support to both the Iraqi Security Forces (ISF) and the Coalition. UK forces will support Iraqi-led security efforts over the period of provincial elections in January 2009.

  As the Prime Minister set out in his statement to Parliament on 18 December 2008, the Department will have completed its remaining military tasks by 31 May 2009 at the latest, and all but around 400 UK troops will have been withdrawn from Iraq by the end of July. Whilst draw-down from Iraq will reduce military personnel costs in the next financial year, the preparation for drawdown may substantially increase indirect costs. We have requested a contingency provision for these costs in our Spring Supplementary Estimate. More explanation of these cost elements will be provided in the Department's Estimates Memorandum, although the details are still being worked through.

  Following the restructuring of cost gathering responsibilities for operational allowances, a major contributor to Service Personnel costs, an over-forecast at Winter Supplementary Estimates has been identified and is being rectified at Spring Supplementary Estimates. The construction of Camp Bastion and Gereshk has resulted in increased life support equipment support costs.

  15.   We believe that in future within each Supplementary Estimates memorandum there should be some explanation of significant changes in operational costs since the presentation of the last figures, whether from the previous year's outturn, from the memorandum accompanying the Main Estimate or from the Winter Supplementary. Estimates. This information would clearly be of interest and use to us and to the House as a whole. (Paragraph 16)

  The Department will endeavour to provide more explanations of variances between Estimate requests. Inevitably, some of the differences will arise because of changes in operational tempo, which are very difficult to forecast.

  16.   We would be grateful for an indication from the MoD in the response to this Report of whether spending on Urgent Operational Requirements beyond £1,065 million is expected this Financial Year, and, if so, what the impact of that spending will be on the MoD's 2010-11 budget, including any current assessment of which equipment programmes could be affected in that year. We call on the MoD to provide in future with the Supplementary Estimates more detail of expected spending on Urgent Operational Requirements. (Paragraph 17)

  In the Estimates Memorandum to the 2008-09 Main Estimate the Department forecasted its overall request for UORs in the current Financial Year (FY), having taken into account some rollover from FY2007/08, as £1.065 billion. The forecast for UOR expenditure for the current Financial Year in the 2008-09 Spring Supplementary Estimate is £1,054 million. The latest forecast for UOR expenditure for FY2008/09 remains at this level; this falls comfortably within the earlier estimate plus rollover, and therefore MoD does not at this time anticipate having to bear any cost for UORs in FY2008/09. We do not therefore anticipate any impact on the MOD's 2010-11 budget or equipment programme.

  UORs by their very nature reveal a capability gap and are therefore highly sensitive. Nevertheless, we will endeavour to provide the Committee with more detail on UOR expenditure as appropriate.

  17.   We would for future Financial Years like the MoD to provide us with:

    —  a more detailed account of operational costs expected in the Financial Year in the memorandum accompanying the Main Estimate, explaining any significant change between those costs and those in the previous Financial Year's outturn;

  The Department will provide a more detailed account of operational costs in its 2009-10 Main Estimates peace-keeping and operations request for funds. The 2008-09 audited outturn figures will not be available at this point in time. We will provide an explanation of any variances against the Estimates in our Annual Report and Accounts for that year.

    —  a further forecast of operational costs before the summer, or as soon as possible thereafter;

  The Department will endeavour to provide this forecast if there are significant changes.

    —  an explanation in the memorandum attached to the Winter Supplementary Estimates of any significant changes between its figures for operational costs and those in the memorandum accompanying the Main Estimate;

  The Department will provide an explanation for any significant changes in its Winter Supplementary Estimate memorandum.

    —  a third forecast of operational costs shortly after the Winter Supplementary Estimates are laid, preferably before they are considered by the House;

  The Department will provide this information if there are significant changes from the Winter Supplementary Estimate.

    —  more detail where appropriate, in the documents between the Main Estimate and the subsequent Annual Report and Accounts for that year, of expected and final spending figures for Urgent Operational Requirements; and

  The Department will provide this information if there are significant movements.

    —  an explanation in the memorandum attached to the Spring Supplementary Estimates of any significant changes between its figures for operational costs and those in the memorandum accompanying the earlier Winter Supplementary Estimates.

  We are aware that the MoD has already made clear its intention to provide the first of these from 2009-10 onwards and already provides the last.

  Noted.

  We hope the MoD will be able to take the other three proposals on board also which will enable better scrutiny of its Estimates by our Committee and by the House of Commons. (Paragraph 18)

  The MoD will endeavour to facilitate better scrutiny of its Estimates by both the Committee and the House of Commons.

  18.   We recommend that the House of Commons approve the request for resources set out in the MoD's Winter Supplementary Estimates. The £3,739.112 million requested to meet the forecast cost of operations in Iraq and Afghanistan in 2008-09 is a very significant sum of public money, but it is vital that our Armed Forces are properly resourced to carry out those important tasks which they have been given.(Paragraph 19).

  The Department welcomes the Committee's continued support for our Armed Forces.

12 February 2009





 
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