Engineering: turning ideas into reality - Innovation, Universities, Science and Skills Committee Contents


Memorandum 58

Submission from Thales

  Terms of reference:

    -  (A)The role of engineering and engineers in UK society.

    -  (B)The role of engineering and engineers in UK's innovation drive.

    -  (C)The state of the engineering skills base in the UK, including the supply of engineers and issues of diversity (for example, gender and age profile).

    -  (D)The importance of engineering to R&D and the contribution of R&D to engineering.

    -  (E)The roles of industry, universities, professional bodies, Government, unions and others in promoting engineering skills and the formation and development of careers in engineering.

INTRODUCTION

  1.  Thales is a major international company, employing 68,000 globally in 50 countries covering interests in defence, aerospace and security for a wide range of customers including national governments.

  2.  Thales UK is a significant industrial player, employing 9,000 across the UK. Thales UK revenue in 2007 was over £1bn, a third of which was exports. Thales provides systems at the heart of the UK's military and security capability, as well as in the non-defence field. The company is a Prime Contractor, systems integrator, technology provider and service provider. In Defence, our current major programme involvement includes being a member of the Alliance delivering the Royal Navy's aircraft carriers, Prime Contractor for the Watchkeeper unmanned aerial vehicle and System of Systems Integrator for the Future Rapid Effects System requirement. As well as being a major contractor to the MOD, Thales has a major presence in the transport, telecommunication and security sectors, with major national customers including Network Rail. Electronic engineering is the core technical discipline of the operations of Thales. Our engineering pedigree in the UK dates back to 1888 as a result of our heritage with Barr & Stroud, now Thales UK (optronics).

(A)  The Role of Engineering and Engineers in UK Society

  3.  As a global organisation, we are in a position to compare the supply of engineers across several countries, most particularly across Europe. It is clear that, comparatively, the UK supply is not what it needs to be to support the growth of the UK industry. We face shortages, and stiff competition, in most engineering disciplines, particularly in systems engineering. Thales is therefore dedicated to supporting all efforts to promote engineering as a career for young people in the UK. Thales is focussed on the supply of capable people for the job regardless of gender or ethnicity. In our graduate recruitment campaigns we are currently receiving 28% of all applications from non EU citizens.

  4.  Our strategy is, therefore, to broaden the supply of recruits as much as possible both by considering the engagement of younger students in schools and retraining individuals with legacy skills. This requires the development of education and re-training solutions with schools and universities. There is an opportunity for all stakeholders-Government, industry and institutions-to work more closely together to meet these objectives.

(C)  The state of the engineering skills base in the UK, including the supply of engineers and issues of diversity (for example, gender and age profile)

  5.  Engineering is the core technical discipline of the operations of Thales.

  Thales UK employs 4,000 engineers and technicians, of which some 90% are qualified to degree level or above. In 2007 Thales UK recruited 83 graduates. In 2008 we look to recruit 110 graduates and in 2009 150. 80% of our graduate intake are engineers. The UK Labour market has a shortage of engineering capability, most particularly in systems, in the south east.

  6.  Thales UK plans to create an Engineering school of excellence in order to combat the difficulties of recruiting and retaining skilled people in the rail signalling industry. The school of excellence will take on school-leavers and graduates to train as licensed engineers to support main line and mass transit solutions.

(D)  The importance of engineering to R&D and the contribution of R&D to engineering

  7.  We consider that Engineering and Research are inextricably linked. The ability to apply new scientific and technical insight depends on effective and developing engineering expertise; and the development of insight is often enabled by engineering contact with the real world.

  8.  Engineering advances to exploit each wave of technology. We recommend most strongly the need for science, technology, engineering and business to march in harness. The mobile communications market is still influenced by the ground breaking science and engineering conducted in RACAL's (now Thales) research laboratory in Reading.

(E)  The roles of industry, universities, professional bodies, Government, unions and others in promoting engineering skills and the formation and development of careers in engineering

  9.  Whilst industry clearly has a role in promoting the exciting options available to those who pursue a career in engineering, this has to be exercised by means of direct contact through the schools and the education system to start the students on this path.

  10.  By the time students are at university, the issues are fundamentally around retention (universities are reported to be seeing very high drop out rates from engineering courses) and then follow through into engineering careers. Thales believes that it can support universities by making strategic links with a number of them who provide courses that are key to our business and work with them to evolve the curriculum, provide work experience opportunities for students, and career advice from an industry perspective.

  11.  Thales plays its part in promoting engineering skills and the formation and development of careers in engineering. Thales is involved in activity across the UK to promote the increase of the interest and supply of engineers by working with local schools and universities to engage with students on the opportunities provided by engineering.

  12.  The professional bodies must be the co-ordinator in the overall effort to promote engineering. There are a number of voices with the same message: if our efforts were pooled, we could be very effective. In order to achieve this, the professional bodies need to be seen to have strong support from Government.

  13.  Thales is a strong supporter of STEMNET (science, technology, engineering and mathematics network) and encourages all graduates with appropriate backgrounds to become Science and Engineering Ambassadors. Thales takes every request for help from a school seriously and does everything it can to support them. Volunteers work with schools to support everything from extra reading classes, careers talks and presentations to full day challenge events. Thales also recognises the value in competitions such as Young Engineer for Britain in inspiring young people to follow STEM as a career and supports both regional and national finals also sending role models from our engineering community to act as judges.

  14.  Thales has a four-year graduate development programme for all new graduate entrants. The Engineering stream of this programme is accredited by the Institution of Engineering and Technology, Institute of Physics, Institution of Mechanical Engineering, Royal Aeronautical Society and the Institute of Mathematics and its Applications. Graduates on this stream work towards becoming a Professionally Registered Engineer (either Chartered or Incorporated). Delivery of the Thales Graduate Development Programme is through Thales Universite. Thales Universite have enhanced the programme by developing a number of bespoke courses specific to the graduate population to develop both their behavioural skills and their knowledge of the business life cycle.

  15.  Thales ensures that the views of industry are being heard in the engineering institutions and the UK Engineering Council (ECUK) itself by maintaining positions on committees, taking part in focus groups and actively engaging on key issues. Thales has also pioneered the creation of the UK Initial Professional Development Forum where likeminded companies can meet to discuss issues around development of engineers and go forward to the institutions and ECUK with one voice. This has been welcomed by ECUK.

March 2008





 
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