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House of Commons

Tuesday 2 February 2010

Public Bill Committee

New Amendments handed in are marked thus

Crime and Security Bill

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Note

The Amendments have been arranged in accordance with the Order of the

Committee [26 January 2010].

James Brokenshire

Andrew Rosindell

1

Clause  1,  page  1,  line  6,  at end insert ‘which may be made by electronic record or

by the recording of a telecommunications message containing the relevant details.’.

Mr Douglas Hogg

49

Clause  1,  page  1,  line  13,  leave out ‘, if that is not practicable,’.

Mr Douglas Hogg

50

Clause  1,  page  1,  line  13,  after second ‘as’, insert ‘reasonably’.

Mr Douglas Hogg

51

Clause  1,  page  2,  line  1,  after ‘vehicle,’, insert ‘the stated name and address of the

person searched,’.

Mr Douglas Hogg

52

Clause  1,  page  2,  line  9,  leave out from ‘as’ to ‘perceived’ in line 10.

Public Bill Committee: 2 February 2010

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Crime and Security Bill, continued

Mr Douglas Hogg

53

Clause  2,  page  2,  line  25,  leave out ‘before or’.

James Brokenshire

Andrew Rosindell

2

Clause  2,  page  2,  line  31,  at end insert ‘provided that the power under this

subsection may not be exercised later than six months from the date of arrest or if earlier

the date that it was decided that no further action would be taken in connection with the

events or circumstances which led to the arrest.’.

James Brokenshire

Andrew Rosindell

3

Clause  2,  page  2,  line  41,  at end insert ‘provided that the power under this

subsection may not be exercised if the person has been acquitted of the offence or the

relevant charges have been withdrawn.’.

Mr Douglas Hogg

54

Clause  2,  page  3,  line  6,  leave out from beginning to ‘and’ in line 9.

Mr Douglas Hogg

55

Clause  2,  page  3,  line  13,  leave out ‘cautioned or warned or reprimanded’.

Mr David Hanson

34

Clause  2,  page  3,  line  20,  at end insert—

‘( )	In that section, for subsection (8B) there is substituted—

“(8B)

Any power under this section to take the fingerprints of a person without

the appropriate consent, if not otherwise specified to be exercisable by a

constable, shall be exercisable by a constable.”’

Member’s explanatory statement

This amendment secures that any power to take fingerprints without consent in England and Wales

under section 61 of the Police and Criminal Evidence Act 1984 may be exercised by a constable,

wherever the power is exercised.

Mr Douglas Hogg

56

Clause  2,  page  3,  line  25,  leave out ‘before or’.

James Brokenshire

Andrew Rosindell

4

Clause  2,  page  3,  line  35,  at end insert ‘provided that the power under this

subsection may not be exercised later than six months from the date of arrest or if earlier

the date that it was decided that no further action would be taken in connection with the

events or circumstances which led to the arrest.’.

Public Bill Committee: 2 February 2010

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Crime and Security Bill, continued

James Brokenshire

Andrew Rosindell

5

Clause  2,  page  4,  line  7,  at end insert ‘provided that the power under this subsection

may not be exercised if the person has been acquitted of the offence or the relevant

charges have been withdrawn.’.

Mr Douglas Hogg

57

Clause  2,  page  4,  line  10,  leave out ‘before or’.

Mr Douglas Hogg

58

Clause  2,  page  4,  line  13,  leave out from beginning to ‘and’ in line 16.

Mr Douglas Hogg

59

Clause  2,  page  4,  line  20,  leave out ‘cautioned or warned or reprimanded’.

James Brokenshire

Andrew Rosindell

6

Clause  3,  page  5,  line  5,  leave out from ‘person’ to ‘may’ in line 6.

Mr Douglas Hogg

60

Clause  3,  page  5,  line  10,  leave out ‘whether before or’ and insert ‘and’.

Mr Douglas Hogg

61

Clause  3,  page  5,  line  13,  leave out from ‘Wales’ to end of line 14.

James Brokenshire

Andrew Rosindell

7

Clause  3,  page  5,  line  29,  leave out subsections (2) and (3).

James Brokenshire

Andrew Rosindell

8

Clause  3,  page  6,  line  3,  leave out from ‘person’ to ‘if’ in line 4.

Mr Douglas Hogg

62

Clause  3,  page  6,  line  7,  leave out ‘whether before or’ and insert ‘and’.

Mr Douglas Hogg

63

Clause  3,  page  6,  line  10,  leave out from ‘Wales’ to end of line 11.

Public Bill Committee: 2 February 2010

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Crime and Security Bill, continued

James Brokenshire

Andrew Rosindell

22

Clause  3,  page  6,  line  36,  leave out paragraph (b).

Mr Douglas Hogg

64

Clause  4,  page  7,  line  25,  after second ‘as’, insert ‘reasonably’.

James Brokenshire

Andrew Rosindell

9

Clause  4,  page  8,  line  1,  leave out from ‘include’ to ‘a’ in line 2.

Mr Douglas Hogg

65

Clause  4,  page  8,  line  6,  after second ‘as’, insert ‘reasonably’.

Mr Douglas Hogg

66

Clause  4,  page  8,  line  27,  after second ‘as’, insert ‘reasonably’.

Tom Brake

Mr Mark Oaten

Chris Huhne

102

Clause  5,  page  9,  line  3,  at end insert—

‘(1A)

In section 24 of the Police and Criminal Evidence Act 1984 (arrest) after

subsection (6) there is inserted—

“(7)	For the avoidance of doubt, the taking of fingerprints, impressions of

footwear and intimate and non-intimate samples is not, on its own, a

reasonable ground for believing that it is necessary to arrest a person.”’.

James Brokenshire

Andrew Rosindell

10

Clause  6,  page  10,  leave out lines 26 to 28.

James Brokenshire

Andrew Rosindell

11

Clause  6,  page  12,  leave out lines 31 to 34.

Public Bill Committee: 2 February 2010

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Crime and Security Bill, continued

Tom Brake

Mr Mark Oaten

Chris Huhne

101

Clause  6,  page  13,  line  16,  at end insert—

‘15A	Fingerprints and non-intimate samples may only be taken under sections

61(5A), 61(5B), 63(3ZA) and 63(3A) from a person at a police station.’.

Tom Brake

Mr Mark Oaten

Chris Huhne

100

Clause  7,  page  15,  line  9,  after ‘2008’, insert ‘other than an offence under section 1

and 2 of the Terrorism Act 2006’.

Mr Douglas Hogg

67

Clause  7,  page  15,  leave out lines 10 to 14.

James Brokenshire

Andrew Rosindell

12

Clause  8,  page  15,  line  37,  at end insert ‘provided that the power under this

paragraph may not be exercised later than six months from the date of arrest or if earlier

the date that it was decided that no further action would be taken in connection with the

events or circumstances which led to the arrest.’.

James Brokenshire

Andrew Rosindell

13

Clause  8,  page  16,  line  2,  at end insert ‘provided that the power under this

paragraph may not be exercised if the person has been acquitted of the offence or the

relevant charges have been withdrawn.’.

Mr David Hanson

35

Clause  8,  page  16,  line  24,  at end insert—

‘( )	In that Article, for paragraph (8A) there is substituted—

“(8A)

Any power under this Article to take the fingerprints of a person without

the appropriate consent, if not otherwise specified to be exercisable by a

constable, shall be exercisable by a constable.”’

Member’s explanatory statement

This amendment secures that any power to take fingerprints without consent under Article 61 of

the Police and Criminal Evidence (Northern Ireland) Order 1989 may be exercised by a constable,

wherever the power is exercised.

Public Bill Committee: 2 February 2010

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Crime and Security Bill, continued

James Brokenshire

Andrew Rosindell

14

Clause  8,  page  16,  line  39,  at end insert ‘provided that the power under this

paragraph may not be exercised later than six months from the date of arrest or if earlier

the date that it was decided that no further action would be taken in connection with the

events or circumstances which led to the arrest.’.

James Brokenshire

Andrew Rosindell

15

Clause  8,  page  17,  line  13,  at end insert ‘provided that the power under this

paragraph may not be exercised if the person has been acquitted of the offence or the

relevant charges have been withdrawn.’.

James Brokenshire

Andrew Rosindell

16

Clause  9,  page  18,  line  5,  leave out from ‘person’ to ‘may’ in line 6.

James Brokenshire

Andrew Rosindell

17

Clause  9,  page  18,  line  28,  leave out subsections (2) and (3).

James Brokenshire

Andrew Rosindell

18

Clause  9,  page  19,  line  3,  leave out from ‘person’ to ‘if’ in line 4.

James Brokenshire

Andrew Rosindell

23

Clause  9,  page  19,  line  34,  leave out paragraph (b).

James Brokenshire

Andrew Rosindell

19

Clause  10,  page  21,  line  1,  leave out from ‘include’ to ‘a’ in line 2.

James Brokenshire

Andrew Rosindell

20

Clause  12,  page  23,  leave out lines 25 to 27.

Public Bill Committee: 2 February 2010

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Crime and Security Bill, continued

James Brokenshire

Andrew Rosindell

24

Clause  12,  page  25,  leave out lines 25 to 28.

Mr David Hanson

48

Clause  13,  page  28,  line  3,  leave out ‘37, 40, 43 to 50’ and insert ‘37 to 40, 43 to

54’.

Member’s explanatory statement

This amendment brings the ‘qualifying offences’ in Northern Ireland into line with those in

England and Wales (see Clause 7). The offences added are offences relating to child prostitution

and pornography and sexual offences involving care workers for persons with a mental disorder.

Mr David Hanson

36

Clause  14,  page  28,  line  41,  leave out ‘arrested for or’.

Member’s explanatory statement

This amendment alters the substituted section 64(5)(b) of PACE to remove the erroneous repeated

reference to an arrest under section 41 of the Terrorism Act 2000 as this is already provided for

under the substituted section 64(5)(a).

James Brokenshire

Andrew Rosindell

25

Clause  14,  page  29,  line  14,  leave out ‘sooner’ and insert ‘later’.

James Brokenshire

Andrew Rosindell

148

Clause  14,  page  30,  line  7,  after ‘fingerprints’, insert ‘or impressions of footwear’.

Mr David Hanson

128

Clause  14,  page  30,  line  14,  leave out ‘of a recordable offence’ and insert—

‘(a)	in England and Wales or Northern Ireland of a recordable offence, or

(b)	in Scotland of an offence which is punishable by imprisonment,’.

Member’s explanatory statement

This amendment amends new section 64ZC of PACE to provide that the destruction regime in that

section (persons subject to control orders) ceases to have effect if the person is convicted of a

recordable offence in Northern Ireland or an offence in Scotland which is punishable by

imprisonment.

Mr David Hanson

129

Clause  14,  page  30,  line  15,  at end insert—

‘( )	For the purposes of subsection (1)—

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Revised 2 February 2010