Police Searches on the Parliamentary Estate - Committee on the Issue of Privilege Contents


Memorandum from Chief Superintendent Ed Bateman, Head of Security, Palace of Westminster

  1. I have been asked to make a record of my involvement in the arrest of Damian Green MP and the search of his private parliamentary office at rooms 441-443 Portcullis House at the Palace of Westminster on the afternoon of Thursday 27 November 2008.

2. Since November 2007, I have been the Head of Security at the Palace of Westminster. As the officer in charge of the Metropolitan Police Service (MPS) Security Force, my role is to work with the Serjeant at Arms (Commons), Black Rod (Lords) and the Parliamentary Security Coordinator to provide a safe and secure environment within Parliament.

  3. Part of this role is to provide an interface between Parliament and the MPS. A recent example was the February 2008 "Plane Stupid" demonstration on the roof of Parliament that led to me facilitating on separate occasions meetings or conversations between Serjeant at Arms Jill Pay and the investigating officers and Black Rod and the investigation officers. In the case of the "Plane Stupid" intrusion, Jill Pay, with the consent of the Member involved, authorised officers to enter and search an MP's office in Portcullis House for evidence of an offence allegedly committed by a researcher. A more recent example of this side of my role involved Members and Peers' expenses when, following a request from the House, I facilitated an introductory meeting between officials and police. In most cases, once I have brought parties together I withdraw as I am not part of the investigation team and my personal involvement becomes unnecessary. Cases often involve high degrees of confidentiality.

  4. On Thursday 20 November 2008 at 1700 I met with a detective sergeant from the MPS Counter Terrorism Command (SO15) at Portcullis House SW1. The officer asked me a series of hypothetical questions concerning the arrest of an MP. Specifically, our conversation was focussed on the likely view of the Serjeant at Arms to a request to search a Member's private offices within the building. The officer did not provide details of who the MP was, their party, or of the allegation being investigated. I agreed to speak with Jill Pay to seek out her view.

  5. I met with Jill Pay later that evening and rehearsed the same conversation. I advised Serjeant at Arms Jill Pay that the CPS were considering police investigation evidence concerning an MP. The MPS expected to receive advice concerning the offences being investigated the following week. Jill Pay provided a "provisional" opinion that she would have the authority to grant consent to search a Member's office were they being investigated for a criminal offence.

  6. Following the meeting I contacted the officer who had visited me at Portcullis House and informed him of Jill Pay's view.

  7. I met again with Serjeant at Arms Jill Pay on a number of occasions between 20 November and 26 November on unrelated matters. On several of those occasions Jill asked me whether the MPS had received the CPS advice. Whilst I do not recall whether it was at our first meeting on 20 November or a later discussion before 26 November, we did have a detailed conversation as to why the MPS were approaching the House seeking consent to search as opposed to immediately applying to a magistrate to secure a warrant. It was, and remains, my understanding that Jill Pay was very clear that a warrant was unlikely to be granted by a magistrate unless it could be shown that a person on the premises with the authority to provide consent was either unavailable or refused to do it. My recollection is that Jill Pay was aware that the MPS were content and prepared to seek a search warrant from a magistrate, if necessary, but could not do so until the House had considered its position and declined to consent.

  8. Again, whilst I am not able to say definitely on what day the conversation took place, I can confirm that I told the Serjeant at Arms in one of our earlier conversations that although the investigation was being conducted by officers from the Counter Terrorism Branch, it was not terrorist related. This was explained to me by the SO15 detective sergeant on 20 November and I was authorised to share the information with Jill Pay.

  9. I am aware from reading evidence already given to the Committee that it has been suggested that I may have coerced the Serjeant at Arms into not including her senior colleagues in the information given her in confidence during the week of 20-27 November 2008. That was never my intention. Indeed, I approached the Serjeant at Arms on the evening of 20 November in the knowledge and belief that she would consult colleagues before coming to a decision as to whether or not the House would consent to a search of a Member's office following their arrest. It was my understanding throughout that period that the Serjeant at Arms was applying for and receiving appropriate advice from senior colleagues. I do not have a relationship with the senior Clerks to the Houses, Speaker, or Lord Speaker, other than through the offices of the Serjeant at Arms or Black Rod. I would never assume to be in a position to direct or influence with whom or how the Serjeant at Arms performed her role.

  10. I do not recall advising Jill Pay that she did not have to consent. However, because Jill Pay had understood the position that the MPS would approach a magistrate and apply for a search warrant in the absence of consent, my presumption was that, knowing the alternative, she knew that she did not have to consent to the search.

  11. On Wednesday 26 November together with a detective chief inspector, a detective inspector, and the detective sergeant I had met on 20 November I met with Jill Pay in her office. The DCI began by informing Jill Pay that the MPS were investigating a sensitive allegation involving an MP. Jill Pay confirmed that wherever a Member had an office on the estate, it would be regarded as "the Commons" and was therefore under her jurisdiction.

  12. The officers repeated the earlier asked question concerning whether she could/would give authority to search an MP's office if they were arrested for a criminal offence. The detective inspector set out clearly why they were seeking consent as opposed to relying upon a warrant. They explained that the issue focussed on the fact that there was an authorised person (the Serjeant at Arms) on premises able to grant consent. There was a discussion with Jill Pay concerning "from where" the Serjeant gets authority to search parts of the Commons. I also recall the detective inspector speaking on a mobile telephone to MPS lawyers. Jill Pay then left the room stating she would seek legal advice. Approximately 10 minutes later, Jill Pay returned informing the room that she would have the authority to authorise such a search. From subsequent conversations with Jill Pay, I am aware that the advice was taken directly from the Clerk to the House of Commons, Dr Malcolm Jack. Jill Pay was emphatic that she would need to include Mr Speaker before any arrest and search. The DCI declined to provide the name of the MP or of the alleged offence. The meeting then agreed that the detective sergeant would return at 0645 on 27 November, with me, to brief Jill Pay and provide details of the MP and of the allegation. This would be immediately before arrest. Jill Pay stated that she would put Mr Speaker on standby to receive a telephone call from her at 0730.

  13. On Thursday 27 November at 0650 myself, the detective sergeant and two further officers met with Jill Pay at her private apartments within Parliament. The detective sergeant informed her that Damian Green was the Member being investigated and provided details of the allegation. An officer explained the "Premises Searched" form. Jill Pay listened and at one point repeated the conversation of the previous day explaining that "she was consenting as she understood that applying for a warrant in these circumstances was unlikely to succeed". By this I mean that it was believed that the court would not grant a warrant unless police could demonstrate that they had sought the consent of the Palace of Westminster and that this consent had been refused. Jill Pay signed the form consenting to the search. At no time was Jill Pay told that she had to consent or was this fact inferred. Jill Pay was in control of the meeting and we (the police) were there to brief her.

  14. Jill Pay was informed that the arrest would be delayed possibly until mid morning due to dignity and proportionality issues. Jill Pay took notes with a view to briefing the Speaker by telephone at 0730. Jill Pay informed the group that the Speaker was leaving his apartments at 0740 to catch a plane to Scotland. Jill Pay rehearsed her briefing in front of the group. It was agreed that Jill Pay would only give very brief facts and that an officer would listen to her conversation. At 0730 Jill Pay rang Mr Speaker from the next-door room. The detective sergeant stood at the door to the room (although I could also hear the conversation). Jill Pay told the Speaker the MP's details, the exact wording of the allegation, a brief context including that it concerned a "Whitehall leak" and the fact that she was authorising a search of his private office. The call lasted less than one minute. She then returned to room. Jill Pay said that Mr Speaker had asked no questions but had said that Damian Green was a "nice man".

  15. At about 1450 on 27 November I received a telephone call from the detective sergeant stating that an MP and a second person had entered Damian Green's office whilst it was being searched and filmed the scene and conversation. They were still there during our conversation. I was at New Scotland Yard but immediately contacted Jill Pay by mobile telephone and asked her to intervene. I received an e-mail from Jill Pay at 1641 stating that she had subsequently challenged the Member concerning his actions. Jill Pay informed me that she had formally asked him to return the tape from the camera. The Member stated that it had already left the estate.

  16. In support of the consent given at 0730, Jill Pay later confirmed her decision in a letter dated 27 November sent to the detective sergeant and copied-in to me.

16 November 2009





 
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