Goats and Tsars: Ministerial and other appointments from outside Parliament - Public Administration Committee Contents


5  BRINGING OUTSIDERS INTO GOVERNMENT

70. In the previous two chapters we examined why a Prime Minister may wish to draw upon people from outside Parliament when appointing a government and some of the arguments against such a move. In this chapter we examine the ways in which such appointments are made.

Appointment to the House of Lords

71. As discussed in the previous chapter, bringing outsiders into government is a long-standing practice, with the majority in recent times being brought in through appointment to the House of Lords. Such individuals are appointed as life peers by the Queen on the recommendation of the Prime Minister.

72. Several of our witnesses raised concerns that the House of Lords was not an appropriate vehicle for appointing such ministers, but that it was being used in the absence of a better alternative. They drew attention to several issues around this use of the Lords, some of which are discussed below.[67]

73. It is important to acknowledge that all three main parties are committed to the reform of the House of Lords. The decision still outstanding is whether the reformed Chamber is either wholly elected or substantially elected. This development can be expected to have significant implications for the way in which Ministers are recruited. However, it does not seem sensible to use the prospect of wider Lords reform, which has been a slow and indefinite process, as a reason for failing to consider immediate improvements to the current system for appointing ministers.

LIFE MEMBERSHIP?

74. The appointment of ministers via the House of Lords brings with it the complication that the Prime Minister is also appointing a life-long member of the legislature and of the peerage. A Member of the Lords, once appointed, remains a Member for life, even if, for example, they were simply appointed in order to take up a ministerial job that they then held for a relatively short period of time. The Justice Committee has drawn attention to some of the implications:

    The present Prime Minister has appointed 11 people to be life peers so that they could serve as ministers or as an adviser to the Government, some of whom have already given up ministerial office but remain members of the House of Lords. These measures accentuate a trend towards an appointed second chamber, contrary to the view expressed by the three main parties and by the House of Commons. Moreover, it is likely to lead to a continuous trend in future governments appointing peers to rebalance the numbers and this is unsustainable.[68]

75. A possible resolution to part of this problem would be to allow Members of the Lords to resign their seat, a measure we have previously recommended.[69] This proposal was supported by Lord Jay of Ewelme, the Chairman of the House of Lords Appointments Commission, giving evidence to us in July 2009.[70] Government amendments have been tabled to the Constitutional Reform and Governance Bill that would permit this. There have also been suggestions that some Members of the House of Lords could be appointed for fixed periods.

76. This would, however, only partially resolve the issue. Former ministers who had been directly appointed via the Lords would be under no obligation to resign and it could therefore remain an incentive for Prime Ministers to appoint many such ministers in order to boost the numbers of their party in the Lords. Sir John Major argued that ministers appointed to the Lords should only hold their seat in the Lords for as long as they serve in government.[71]

77. Lord Darzi defended his continued membership of the Lords, and that of other former directly appointed ministers. He argued that former ministers had skills and experience that allowed them to become successful parliamentarians.[72]

78. Former ministers bring valuable experience to the work of Parliament. However, we do not believe this is a sufficient reason to allow ministers appointed from outside Parliament via the House of Lords to retain their seats after they leave government, especially when then is no requirement on them to be active members of the House.

79. We support moves to allow peers to resign and recommend that the Ministerial Code require ministers who were appointed to the House of Lords in order to take up their duties to resign from that House upon their departure from government. Those former ministers who wished to remain active members of the House of Lords could seek reappointment through the party nomination process or, if they could convince it of their independence from party politics, the House of Lords Appointments Commission.

80. A related issue is the automatic association of a title with membership of the House of Lords and whether former ministers should keep such titles after they resign. Lord Turnbull regarded the giving of titles to Members of the Lords as an undesirable complication, referring to the whole issue as "this ghastly business". His view was that "basically you should just be Andrew Turnbull and everything else that describes what you are or have been comes after your name".[73]

81. The giving of titles for life to ministers who may only be in government for a short time will, rightly or wrongly, raise the suspicion of patronage. We have previously recommended that the honour of a peerage should be separated from a place in the legislature.[74] We continue to hold this view and believe it is especially relevant where an individual is made a Member of the House of Lords in order to take up ministerial duties. On ceasing to be a minister, such a person should be required to relinquish the title too.

PROPRIETY

82. Members of the Lords who are appointed as 'working peers' by their parties are subject to propriety checks by the House of Lords Appointments Commission. However, those who have been ennobled in order to take up ministerial office are not vetted in this way. Lord Jay told us that he recognised that pressures of time meant that ministers appointed during a reshuffle might not be able to be vetted, but

    where I think there is a real anomaly which can be corrected, straight away are those ministerial appointments which take place outside reshuffles where there is no particular time pressure—and I cannot see any reason why the Commission should not be asked to vet those in the usual way.[75]

83. Lord Turnbull did not agree. He argued that the Prime Minister was responsible for the appointment of ministers and should therefore be responsible for all aspects of those appointments.[76] Jonathan Powell said that there was a "standard process" for vetting all ministerial appointees.[77]

84. We agree that in principle the Prime Minister should be responsible for propriety checks on ministers. However, making an individual a Member of the Lords to take up ministerial office means that they also become a life-long member of the legislature. So long as this situation holds we believe that the House of Lords Appointments Commission should be allowed to vet ministerial appointees for propriety in the same way as for any other working peer.

LIMITS

85. These two issues indicate the fundamental problem with the use of the House of Lords in this way. It is in effect a constitutional fudge, a device to allow Prime Ministers directly to appoint people of his choosing to government. We have already acknowledged the need for limits on such appointments and the fact that most Westminster systems that allow direct appointments have such limits. The only limit that applies to the Prime Minister in making such appointments is the extent to which he or she is willing to endure political discomfiture.

Appointment without being a member of either House

86. Problems such as these tend to flow from the use of the legislature to facilitate the outside appointment of ministers. An alternative was proposed initially by Sir John Major and the former Foreign Secretary, Lord Hurd of Westwell. They suggested that a small number of ministers could be appointed who were not members of either House, but who would be directly accountable to either the Commons or both Houses.[78]

87. This suggestion is not entirely unprecedented: the posts of Lord Advocate and Solicitor General for Scotland have, at times, been held by non-parliamentarians.[79] A similar system to that proposed operates in South Africa, where up to two ministers may be appointed who are not members of the legislature.

88. Non-parliamentarians have also been appointed to ministerial posts in time of war, although not without controversy. In 1942, for example, the then Prime Minister, Winston Churchill, appointed Richard G. (later Baron) Casey, then Australian Minister for America, as Minister Resident in the Middle East. Responding to questions in the House Churchill argued that it was unnecessary to make Casey a member of the Commons.[80] Since Casey was to be based in Cairo it was impractical that he should appear in the Commons to answer questions. A member of the War Cabinet therefore answered on his behalf.[81]

89. Several of our witnesses supported the idea of appointing ministers who were appointed to neither House, but were answerable to the Commons or to both. They saw the issue of House of Lords membership as a distraction, which brought with it unnecessary complications concerning titles, length of service in the House and the balance of the parties in the House of Lords. For them, the key issue was to ensure proper accountability to the House of Commons (discussed in the previous chapter).[82]

90. Appointing a small number of junior ministers directly, without requiring them to be Members of either House, would resolve some of the problems resulting from appointment via the House of Lords. It would also provide a mechanism to place clear limits on the number of ministers that could be appointed in this way and their role. Whilst not completely without precedent, this would be a considerable constitutional innovation. It is an idea that deserves further consideration.

91. What is clear is that this whole issue of the external appointment of ministers needs to be considered in the round. It is not appropriate for moves in this direction to take place in isolation from a consideration of the wider constitutional implications.


67   Q 1 [Jonathan Powell]; Q 12 [Professor King]; Q 43 [Lord Turnbull]  Back

68   Justice Committee, Eleventh Report of Session 2008-09, Constitutional Reform and Renewal, HC 923, para. 58 Back

69   Public Administration Select Committee, Second Report of Session 2007-08, Propriety and Peerages, HC 153, para. 147 Back

70   Oral evidence taken before the Public Administration Select Committee on 16 July 2009, HC (2008-09) 744-i, Q 36 Back

71   Q 161 Back

72   Q 145 Back

73   Q 16 Back

74   Propriety and Peerages, para 141 Back

75   Oral evidence taken before the Public Administration Select Committee on 16 July 2009, HC (2008-09) 744-i, Q 8 Back

76   Q 62 Back

77   Q 65 Back

78   Sir John Major and Lord Hurd of Westwell, "Bring outside talent to the dispatch box", The Times,13 June 2009 Back

79   Following devolution these posts ceased to UK ministerial posts and became part of the Scottish Executive. They were replaced by at UK Government level by the Advocate General for Scotland.  Back

80   House of Commons Debates, 19 March 1942, vol. 378, col. 1665 Back

81   House of Commons Debates, 19 March 1942, vol. 378, col. 1664 Back

82   Q 12 [Professor King]; Q 13 [Jonathan Powell]; Q 16 [Lord Turnbull]; Q 83 [Lord Adonis] Back


 
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