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SUPPLEMENT TO THE VOTES AND PROCEEDINGS

 
 

Tuesday 12 October 2010

 

Committee of the whole House

 

Proceedings

 

Parliamentary Voting System and Constituencies Bill

 

[first day]

 

Mr Christopher Chope

 

Not selected  63

 

Clause  1,  page  1,  line  6,  leave out subsection (2) and insert—

 

‘(2)    

The referendum must be held on such day as the Minister may specify by order.

 

(2A)    

An order under subsection (2) may not be made unless—

 

(a)    

a draft of the order has been laid before, and approved by a resolution of,

 

each House of Parliament, and

 

(b)    

the condition in subsection (2B) has been satisfied.

 

(2B)    

The condition is that the Minister has published a draft Bill providing for the

 

establishment of an elected House of Lords.’.

 

Mr Angus Brendan MacNeil

 

Jonathan Edwards

 

Hywel Williams

 

Mr Elfyn Llwyd

 

Negatived on division  155

 

Clause  1,  page  1,  leave out line 6 and insert—

 

‘(2)    

 

(a)    

The Electoral Commission shall within two months of Royal Assent to

 

this Act specify the date on which the referendum is to be held.

 

(b)    

The specified date must be—

 

(i)    

within 18 months of the date of Royal Assent to this Act, and

 

(ii)    

a date on which no other election to a parliament or assembly in

 

the United Kingdom is to be held.

 

(c)    

The Minister must lay before Parliament the draft of an Order in Council

 

to give effect to the specified date.

 

(d)    

The draft of the Order in Council under paragraph (c) above shall not be

 

laid before Parliament until the specified date has been agreed by the

 

Scottish Parliament, the Northern Ireland Assembly and the National

 

Assembly for Wales.’.

 
 

Committee of the whole House Proceedings: 12 October 2010    

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Parliamentary Voting System and Constituencies Bill, continued

 
 

Mr Bernard Jenkin

 

Mr David Davis

 

Mrs Eleanor Laing

 

Mr Edward Leigh

 

Richard Ottaway

 

Mr Christopher Chope

 

Mr William Cash

 

Sir Stuart Bell

 

Negatived on division  4

 

Clause  1,  page  1,  line  6,  leave out ‘must be held on 5 May 2011’ and insert—

 

    

‘shall be held on a date specified in an order made by the Minister, provided that

 

such date—

 

(a)    

shall not coincide with any poll or polls held for any parliamentary

 

assembly or regularly held local government election; and

 

(b)    

shall be at least six months after the commencement of the referendum

 

period (as specified in Schedule 1).’.

 

Edward Miliband

 

Sadiq Khan

 

Chris Bryant

 

Mr Peter Hain

 

Not called  126

 

Clause  1,  page  1,  line  6,  leave out ‘on 5 May 2011’ and insert ‘within 18 months of

 

Royal Assent on a date that shall not coincide with any poll or polls for any parliamentary

 

assembly or regularly held local government elections, to be specified by order subject to

 

the approval of both Houses and following a consulation undertaken by the Electoral

 

Commission.’.

 

Thomas Docherty

 

Fiona O’Donnell

 

Mark Durkan

 

Ms Margaret Ritchie

 

Tom Greatrex

 

Mr Russell Brown

 

Not called  1

 

Clause  1,  page  1,  line  6,  leave out ‘5 May 2011’ and insert ‘8 September 2011’.

 

Mr Angus Brendan MacNeil

 

Caroline Lucas

 

Jonathan Edwards

 

Not selected  2

 

Clause  1,  page  1,  line  6,  leave out ‘5 May 2011’ and insert—

 

‘(a)    

within 18 months of Royal Assent, and

 

(b)    

on a date on which no other election to Parliament or an assembly in the

 

United Kingdom is held.’.

 

Mr Edward Leigh

 

Mr Brian H. Donohoe

 

Dr Julian Lewis

 

Geraint Davies

 

Mr James Gray

 

Jacob Rees-Mogg

 

Not called  124

 

Clause  1,  page  1,  line  6,  leave out ‘5 May’ and insert ‘2 June’.

 
 

Committee of the whole House Proceedings: 12 October 2010    

53

 

Parliamentary Voting System and Constituencies Bill, continued

 
 

Graham Stringer

 

Not called  225

 

Clause  1,  page  1,  line  6,  leave out ‘5 May 2011’ and insert ‘the day of the next

 

general election’.

 

Caroline Lucas

 

Mr Douglas Carswell

 

Austin Mitchell

 

Negatived on division  7

 

Clause  1,  page  1,  leave out from line 7 to end of line 4 on page 2 and insert—

 

‘(3)    

The questions that are to appear on the ballot paper are—

 

“(1)    

Do you want to change the current “first past the post” system for electing

 

Members of Parliament to the House of Commons?

 

(2)    

If there were a change, list your order of preference, 1, 2, 3, for the United

 

Kingdom to adopt:

 

(a)    

The ‘alternative vote’ system,

 

(b)    

The ‘additional member’ system, or

 

(c)    

The ‘single transferable vote’ system with multi-member

 

constituencies?”.

 

(4)    

In Wales, a Welsh version of the question is also to appear on the ballot papers.

 

(5)    

The voting for the second question in the referendum shall be in accordance with

 

section (Counting of votes on second question of referendum).’.

 

Austin Mitchell

 

Not selected  250

 

Clause  1,  page  1,  leave out from line 7 to end of line 4 on page 2 and insert—

 

‘(3)    

The questions that are to appear on the ballot paper are—

 


 

“1. Do you want to change the current ‘first past the post’ system for electing

 

Members of Parliament to the House of Commons?

 


 

2. If there were a change, list your preference 1, 2, 3, 4, for the United Kingdom

 

to adopt:

 

(a)    

The ‘alternative vote’ system,

 

(b)    

The ‘alternative vote top-up’ system as recommended by the Independent

 

Commission on the Voting System (the Jenkins Commission),

 

(c)    

The ‘additional member’ system, or

 

(d)    

The ‘single transferable vote’ system with multi-member

 

constituencies?”.

 

(4)    

In Wales, a Welsh version of the questions is also to appear on the ballot paper.

 

(5)    

The voting for the second question in the referendum shall be in accordance with

 

section (Counting of votes on second questions of referendum).’.

 

Mr Roger Godsiff

 

Fiona Mactaggart

 

Liz Kendall

 

Stella Creasy

 

Sir Peter Soulsby

 

Stephen Twigg

 

Not selected  77

 

Clause  1,  page  1,  line  7,  after first ‘The’, insert ‘first’.

 
 

Committee of the whole House Proceedings: 12 October 2010    

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Parliamentary Voting System and Constituencies Bill, continued

 
 

The Deputy Prime Minister

 

Mr Graham Allen

 

Sheila Gilmore

 

Simon Hart

 

Tristram Hunt

 

Mrs Eleanor Laing

 

Agreed to  230

 

Clause  1,  page  1,  leave out lines 8 to 11 and insert—

 

‘At present, the UK uses the “first past the post”

 
 

system to elect MPs to the House of Commons. Should

 
 

the “alternative vote” system be used instead?’.

 
 

Mr Angus Brendan MacNeil

 

Jonathan Edwards

 

Hywel Williams

 

Mr Elfyn Llwyd

 

Not called  140

 

Clause  1,  page  1,  leave out lines 8 to 11 and insert—

 

‘Rank your preference for the system for electing members to the House of Commons (a)

 

Alternative Vote (b) First Past The Post (c) The Single Transferable Vote.’.

 

Mr Bernard Jenkin

 

Mrs Eleanor Laing

 

Mr Christopher Chope

 

Sir Stuart Bell

 

Mr Edward Leigh

 

Not selected  244

 

Clause  1,  page  1,  leave out lines 8 to 11 and insert ‘Do you want the United Kingdom

 

to replace the current system for electing Members of Parliament to the House of

 

Commons with optional preferential voting with instant runoff?’.

 

Mr Philip Hollobone

 

Not called  204

 

Clause  1,  page  1,  line  9,  after ‘vote’, insert ‘plus’.

 

Mr Bernard Jenkin

 

Sir Stuart Bell

 

Mrs Eleanor Laing

 

Mr Edward Leigh

 

Not selected  248

 

Clause  1,  page  1,  line  10,  leave out ‘“first past the post”’.

 

Mr Bernard Jenkin

 

Mrs Eleanor Laing

 

Mr Christopher Chope

 

Sir Stuart Bell

 

Mr Edward Leigh

 

Not selected  245

 

Clause  1,  page  1,  line  12,  leave out from ‘Wales’ to end of line 4 on page 2 and

 

insert ‘a translation of the question in subsection (3), prepared by the Electoral

 

Commission, is also to appear on the ballot papers.’.

 
 

Committee of the whole House Proceedings: 12 October 2010    

55

 

Parliamentary Voting System and Constituencies Bill, continued

 
 

The Deputy Prime Minister

 

Mr Graham Allen

 

Sheila Gilmore

 

Simon Hart

 

Tristram Hunt

 

Mrs Eleanor Laing

 

Agreed to  231

 

Clause  1,  page  2,  leave out lines 1 to 4 and insert—

 

‘Ar hyn o bryd, mae’r DU yn defnyddio’r system “y
cyntaf i’r felin” i ethol ASau i Dy’r Cyffredin. A ddylid
defnyddio’r system “pleidlais amgen” yn lle hynny?’.

 
 

Mr Angus Brendan MacNeil

 

Jonathan Edwards

 

Hywel Williams

 

Mr Elfyn Llwyd

 

Not called  141

 

Clause  1,  page  2,  leave out lines 1 to 4 and insert—

 

‘Graddiwch pa gyfundrefn o ethol aelodau i Ty’r Cyffredin sydd well gennych chi. (a)

 

Pleidlais Amgen (b) Cyntaf i’r Felin (c) Pleidlais Sengl Drosglwyddadwy.’.

 

Mr Philip Hollobone

 

Not called  205

 

Clause  1,  page  2,  line  2,  after ‘amgen’, insert ‘plws’.

 

Mr Angus Brendan MacNeil

 

Jonathan Edwards

 

Hywel Williams

 

Mr Elfyn Llwyd

 

Not called  142

 

Clause  1,  page  2,  line  4,  at end insert—

 

 

‘(4)    

In Scotland, the following Gaelic version of the question is also on ballot

 

papers—

 

    

Rangaich do roghainn a thaobh an t-siostaim taghaidh buill gu Taigh nan

 

Cumantan?(a) Bhòt Eadar-roghnach (b) A’Chiad Bhuannaiche (c) Bhòt

 

Mhalairteach Shingilte

 

    

.’.

 

Mr Roger Godsiff

 

Fiona Mactaggart

 

Not selected  78

 

Clause  1,  page  2,  line  4,  at end insert—

 

‘(4A)    

The second question that is to appear on the ballot papers is—

 

  Do you want the United Kingdom to make it mandatory, for any general

 

election of Members of Parliament to the House of Commons, for all

 

persons whose names appear on the electoral register either to attend a

 

polling station and be handed a ballot paper on election day, or to

 

request that a ballot paper be received through the post?

 

(4B)    

In Wales, a Welsh version of the second question is also to appear on the ballot

 

papers.’.

 
 

Committee of the whole House Proceedings: 12 October 2010    

56

 

Parliamentary Voting System and Constituencies Bill, continued

 
 

Liz Kendall

 

Stella Creasy

 

Sir Peter Soulsby

 

Stephen Twigg

 

Kate Green

 

Not selected  118

 

Clause  1,  page  2,  line  4,  at end insert—

 

‘(4A)    

The second question that is to appear on the ballot papers is—

 

    

Do you want to elect Members of the House of Lords using the “single

 

transferable vote” system instead of the current system of appointment?

 

(4B)    

In Wales, a Welsh version of the second question is also to appear on the ballot

 

papers.’.

 

Clause, as amended, Agreed to on division.

 
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