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House of Commons

 
 

Tuesday 23 November 2010

 

Public Bill Committee Proceedings

 

Terrorist Asset-Freezing etc. Bill [Lords]


 

[First Sitting]


 

Mr Mark Hoban

 

Agreed to

 

That—

 

(1)  

the Committee shall (in addition to its first meeting at 10.30 am on Tuesday

 

23 November) meet—

 

(a)  

at 4.00 pm on Tuesday 23 November;

 

(b)  

at 9.00 am and 1.00 pm on Thursday 25 November;

 

(2)  

the proceedings shall (so far as not previously concluded) be brought to a

 

conclusion at 4.00 pm on Thursday 25 November.

 


 

Mr Mark Hoban

 

That, subject to the discretion of the Chair, any written evidence received by the

 

Committee shall be reported to the House for publication.

 

Agreed to

 


 

Dr Julian Huppert

 

Not selected  19

 

Clause  1,  page  1,  line  8,  leave out ‘a person designated by the Treasury’ and insert

 

‘an individual or organisation designated by the court’.

 

Clause Agreed to.

 



 
 

Public Bill Committee Proceedings: 23 November 2010        

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Terrorist Asset-Freezing etc. Bill [Lords], continued

 
 

Dr Julian Huppert

 

Tom Brake

 

Withdrawn  1

 

Clause  2,  page  2,  line  1,  after ‘believe’, insert ‘on the balance of probabilities’.

 

Dr Julian Huppert

 

Not selected  10

 

Page  1,  line  14,  leave out Clause 2.

 

Clause Agreed to.

 


 

Dr Julian Huppert

 

Tom Brake

 

Withdrawn  2

 

Clause  3,  page  2,  line  27,  at end insert—

 

‘(aa)    

explain, as fully as possible consistent with the public interest in non-

 

disclosure, the reasons why they are satisfied that the conditions in

 

section 2(1) are satisfied.’.

 

Mr David Hanson

 

Kerry McCarthy

 

Withdrawn  42

 

Clause  3,  page  2,  line  28,  leave out ‘take steps to’.

 

Mr David Hanson

 

Kerry McCarthy

 

Not called  44

 

Clause  3,  page  2,  line  32,  leave out ‘the Treasury believe that’.

 

Mr David Hanson

 

Kerry McCarthy

 

Not called  45

 

Clause  3,  page  2,  line  40,  leave out subsection (4).

 

Dr Julian Huppert

 

Not selected  11

 

Page  2,  line  25,  leave out Clause 3.

 

Clause Agreed to.

 



 
 

Public Bill Committee Proceedings: 23 November 2010        

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Terrorist Asset-Freezing etc. Bill [Lords], continued

 
 

Dr Julian Huppert

 

Not selected  12

 

Page  3,  line  1,  leave out Clause 4.

 

Clause Agreed to.

 


 

Mr David Hanson

 

Kerry McCarthy

 

Not called  46

 

Clause  5,  page  3,  line  22,  at end insert—

 

‘(c)    

publicise the revocation.’.

 

Dr Julian Huppert

 

Not selected  13

 

Page  3,  line  16,  leave out Clause 5.

 

Clause Agreed to.

 


 

Dr Julian Huppert

 

Not selected  14

 

Page  3,  line  24,  leave out Clause 6.

 

Clause Agreed to.

 


 

Mr David Hanson

 

Kerry McCarthy

 

Not called  43

 

Clause  7,  page  4,  line  4,  leave out ‘take steps to’.

 

Mr David Hanson

 

Kerry McCarthy

 

Not called  47

 

Clause  7,  page  4,  line  15,  leave out sub-paragraph (iii).

 

Dr Julian Huppert

 

Not selected  15

 

Page  4,  line  1,  leave out Clause 7.

 

Clause Agreed to.

 



 
 

Public Bill Committee Proceedings: 23 November 2010        

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Terrorist Asset-Freezing etc. Bill [Lords], continued

 
 

Mr David Hanson

 

Kerry McCarthy

 

Withdrawn  48

 

Clause  8,  page  4,  line  23,  leave out ‘30’ and insert ‘28’.

 

Mr David Hanson

 

Kerry McCarthy

 

Not called  49

 

Clause  8,  page  4,  line  30,  at end insert—

 

‘(c)    

publicise the expiration.’.

 

Dr Julian Huppert

 

Not selected  16

 

Page  4,  line  21,  leave out Clause 8.

 

Clause Agreed to.

 


 

Dr Julian Huppert

 

Not selected  17

 

Page  4,  line  37,  leave out Clause 9.

 

Clause Agreed to.

 


 

Dr Julian Huppert

 

Not selected  18

 

Page  5,  line  4,  leave out Clause 10.

 

Clause Agreed to.

 

Clauses 11 to 16 Agreed to.

 


 

Dr Julian Huppert

 

Not selected  20

 

Clause  17,  page  8,  line  7,  leave out ‘Treasury and insert ‘court’.

 

Dr Julian Huppert

 

Not selected  21

 

Clause  17,  page  8,  line  7,  at end insert—

 

‘( )    

On an application under section 2 or 6 the Treasury must submit a draft licence

 

to the court in respect of the designated person.

 

( )    

On making a designation under section 2 or 6 the court must grant a licence in

 

respect of the designated person.

 

( )    

In granting a licence under this section the court must be satisfied that the effect

 

of the licence would be to enable an individual designated under section 2 or 6 to


 
 

Public Bill Committee Proceedings: 23 November 2010        

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Terrorist Asset-Freezing etc. Bill [Lords], continued

 
 

have access to such funds as is reasonably necessary for travel and subsistence,

 

including of any dependants of the designated person, and for payment of fees for

 

legal representation, legal advice or other legal services for the benefit of the

 

designated person.’.

 

Dr Julian Huppert

 

Not selected  22

 

Clause  17,  page  8,  line  8,  leave out ‘Treasury’ and insert ‘court’.

 

Dr Julian Huppert

 

Not selected  23

 

Clause  17,  page  8,  line  12,  leave out ‘Treasury consider’ and insert ‘court

 

considers’.

 

Clause Agreed to.

 

Clauses 18 and 19 Agreed to.

 


 

Dr Julian Huppert

 

Not selected  24

 

Clause  20,  page  9,  leave out lines 21 to 24.

 

Dr Julian Huppert

 

Not selected  25

 

Clause  20,  page  9,  line  25,  leave out ‘or (2)’.

 

Clause Agreed to.

 

Clause 21 Agreed to.

 


 

Dr Julian Huppert

 

Not selected  26

 

Clause  22,  page  11,  line  3,  at end add—

 

‘(3)    

A person must comply with a request under this Chapter even if doing so might

 

constitute evidence that the person has committed an offence.

 

(4)    

But in criminal proceedings in which a person is charged with an offence—

 

(a)    

no evidence relating to any answer given, or anything else done, in

 

response to the request may be adduced by or on behalf of the

 

prosecution, and

 

(b)    

no question relating to those matters may be asked by or on behalf of the

 

prosecution,

 

    

unless evidence relating to those matters is adduced, or a question relating to

 

those matters is asked, in the proceedings by or on behalf of the person.

 

(5)    

Sub-paragraph (4) does not apply to—

 

(a)    

an offence under section 112 of the Social Security Administration Act

 

1992;


 
 

Public Bill Committee Proceedings: 23 November 2010        

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Terrorist Asset-Freezing etc. Bill [Lords], continued

 
 

(b)    

an offence under section 5 of the Perjury Act 1911 (false statements made

 

otherwise than on oath in England and Wales); or

 

(c)    

an offence under section 44(2) of the Criminal Law (Consolidation)

 

(Scotland) Act 1995 (corresponding provision for Scotland).’.

 

Clause Agreed to.

 

Clauses 23 and 24 Agreed to.

 


 

Dr Julian Huppert

 

Not selected  27

 

Clause  25,  page  12,  leave out lines 7 and 8.

 

Clause Agreed to.

 


 

Dr Julian Huppert

 

Not selected  28

 

Page  12,  line  28,  leave out Clause 26.

 

Clause Agreed to.

 


 

Dr Julian Huppert

 

Not selected  29

 

Page  13,  line  1,  leave out Clause 27.

 

Clause Agreed to.

 


 

Dr Julian Huppert

 

Not selected  30

 

Clause  28,  page  13,  leave out lines 17 to 19 and insert—

 

‘(i)    

on an application under sections 2, 5 or 6 of the Terrorist

 

Asset-Freezing etc. Act 2010 (courts’s designation of

 

organisations or individuals), or’.

 

Dr Julian Huppert

 

Not selected  31

 

Clause  28,  page  13,  line  21,  leave out ‘appeal or’.


 
 

Public Bill Committee Proceedings: 23 November 2010        

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Terrorist Asset-Freezing etc. Bill [Lords], continued

 
 

Dr Julian Huppert

 

Not selected  32

 

Clause  28,  page  13,  leave out lines 25 to 27 and insert—

 

‘(i)    

on an application under sections 2, 5 or 6 of the Terrorist

 

Asset-Freezing etc. Act 2010 (courts’s designation of

 

organisations or individuals), or’.

 

Dr Julian Huppert

 

Not selected  33

 

Clause  28,  page  13,  line  29,  leave out ‘appeal or’.

 

Dr Julian Huppert

 

Not selected  34

 

Clause  28,  page  13,  leave out lines 33 to 41.

 

Dr Julian Huppert

 

Tom Brake

 

Withdrawn  3

 

Clause  28,  page  13,  line  41,  at end add—

 

‘(5)    

In section 67(3) of the Counter-Terrorism Act 2008 (Rules of court about

 

disclosure)—

 

(a)    

in paragraph (c) after “that”, insert “subject to paragraph (ca) below”; and

 

(b)    

after paragraph (c) insert—

 

“(ca)    

that in relation to a final designation, the material

 

disclosed by the Treasury on which they rely is

 

sufficient to enable each designated person to give

 

effective instructions to a person appointed as a special

 

advocate to represent that party’s interests;”.’.

 

Clause Agreed to.

 


 

Dr Julian Huppert

 

Not selected  35

 

Page  14,  line  1,  leave out Clause 29.

 

Clause Agreed to.

 


 

Dr Julian Huppert

 

Not selected  36

 

Clause  30,  page  15,  line  18,  leave out ‘on them’.

 

Clause Agreed to.

 



 
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