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House of Commons

 
 

Thursday 27 January 2011

 

Public Bill Committee Proceedings

 

Police Reform and Social Responsibility Bill


 

[seventh and eighth Sittings]


 

Vernon Coaker

 

Diana Johnson

 

Clive Efford

 

Mark Tami

 

Not called  113

 

Schedule  1,  page  104,  line  8,  at end insert—

 

‘(2A)    

The Home Secretary will from time to time issue regulations for the appointment

 

of staff under Schedule 1 Section (6) Part (2).

 

(i)    

which will include a maximum budget for staffing for each

 

Authority;

 

(ii)    

which shall be agreed by affirmative resolution of both Houses

 

of Parliament.’.

 

Vernon Coaker

 

Diana Johnson

 

Clive Efford

 

Mark Tami

 

Not called  114

 

Schedule  1,  page  104,  line  8,  at end insert—

 

‘(2A)    

 

(a)    

the staff of a local policing body are not deemed to leave their role when

 

the police and crime commissioner leaves office;

 

(b)    

the staff of a local policing body shall be employed under a published

 

staffing structure of the support team to the police and crime

 

commissioner which can only be varied by a decision of the police and

 

crime commissioner.

 

(c)    

changes to the support team staffing must proceed only with the approval

 

of the police and crime panel.’.

 

Vernon Coaker

 

Diana Johnson

 

Clive Efford

 

Mark Tami

 

Not called  534

 

Schedule  1,  page  104,  line  10,  leave out ‘police and crime commissioner’ and

 

insert ‘police and crime panel’.


 
 

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Police Reform and Social Responsibility Bill, continued

 
 

Vernon Coaker

 

Diana Johnson

 

Clive Efford

 

Mark Tami

 

Not called  535

 

Schedule  1,  page  104,  line  13,  leave out ‘police and crime commissioner’ and

 

insert ‘police and crime panel’.

 

Vernon Coaker

 

Diana Johnson

 

Clive Efford

 

Mark Tami

 

Not called  536

 

Schedule  1,  page  104,  line  16,  leave out ‘commissioner’s’ and insert ‘panel’s’.

 

Vernon Coaker

 

Diana Johnson

 

Clive Efford

 

Mark Tami

 

Not called  537

 

Schedule  1,  page  104,  line  22,  leave out ‘police and crime commissioner’ and

 

insert ‘police and crime panel’.

 

Vernon Coaker

 

Diana Johnson

 

Clive Efford

 

Mark Tami

 

Not called  538

 

Schedule  1,  page  104,  line  26,  leave out ‘police and crime commissioner’ and

 

insert ‘police and crime panel’.

 

Vernon Coaker

 

Diana Johnson

 

Clive Efford

 

Mark Tami

 

Not called  539

 

Schedule  1,  page  104,  line  27,  leave out ‘commissioner’s’ and insert ‘panel’s’.

 

Vernon Coaker

 

Diana Johnson

 

Clive Efford

 

Mark Tami

 

Not called  540

 

Schedule  1,  page  104,  line  32,  leave out ‘commissioner’s’ and insert ‘panel’s’.

 

Vernon Coaker

 

Diana Johnson

 

Clive Efford

 

Mark Tami

 

Not called  541

 

Schedule  1,  page  104,  line  33,  leave out ‘commissioner’s’ and insert ‘panel’s’.


 
 

Public Bill Committee Proceedings: 27 January 2011        

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Police Reform and Social Responsibility Bill, continued

 
 

Vernon Coaker

 

Diana Johnson

 

Clive Efford

 

Mark Tami

 

Not called  542

 

Schedule  1,  page  104,  line  37,  leave out ‘police and crime commissioner’ and

 

insert ‘police and crime panel’.

 

Vernon Coaker

 

Diana Johnson

 

Clive Efford

 

Mark Tami

 

Withdrawn  115

 

Schedule  1,  page  104,  line  44,  at end insert—

 

‘(ca)    

hearing appeals against the dismissal of civilian staff by chief

 

constables.’.

 

Vernon Coaker

 

Diana Johnson

 

Clive Efford

 

Mark Tami

 

Not called  543

 

Schedule  1,  page  105,  line  2,  leave out ‘police and crime commissioners’ and insert

 

‘police and crime panels’.

 

Vernon Coaker

 

Diana Johnson

 

Clive Efford

 

Mark Tami

 

Not called  544

 

Schedule  1,  page  105,  line  4,  leave out ‘a person who is a police and crime

 

commissioner’ and insert ‘a police and crime panel member’.

 

Vernon Coaker

 

Diana Johnson

 

Clive Efford

 

Mark Tami

 

Not called  545

 

Schedule  1,  page  105,  line  6,  leave out ‘commissioner’s’ and insert ‘panel’s’.

 

Vernon Coaker

 

Diana Johnson

 

Clive Efford

 

Mark Tami

 

Not called  546

 

Schedule  1,  page  105,  line  8,  leave out ‘police and crime commissioner’ and insert

 

‘police and crime panel’.

 

Schedule Agreed to.

 



 
 

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Police Reform and Social Responsibility Bill, continued

 
 

Vernon Coaker

 

Diana Johnson

 

Clive Efford

 

Mark Tami

 

Not called  328

 

Clause  2,  page  2,  line  40,  at end insert—

 

‘(c)    

his attestation under oath under Schedule 4 of the Police Act 1996.’.

 

Vernon Coaker

 

Diana Johnson

 

Clive Efford

 

Mark Tami

 

Withdrawn  89

 

Clause  2,  page  2,  line  42,  at end insert ‘where they are employed solely to assist the

 

police force’.

 

Vernon Coaker

 

Not called  90

 

Clause  2,  page  2,  line  42,  at end insert—

 

‘(3A)    

Where a member of the civilian staff of the police force is employed or engaged

 

partly or wholly to assist the police and crime commissioner they shall be

 

accountable to the relevant police and crime commissioner or a member of his

 

staff.’.

 

Vernon Coaker

 

Diana Johnson

 

Clive Efford

 

Mark Tami

 

Withdrawn  329

 

Clause  2,  page  2,  line  42,  at end insert—

 

‘(3A)    

Matters within the “direction and control” of a chief constable under subsection

 

(3) shall include but not be limited to—

 

(a)    

a decision whether, or whether not, to deploy police officers;

 

(b)    

a decision concerning the budgetary allocation of the annual police force

 

budget;

 

(c)    

a decision taken with the purpose of balancing competing operational

 

needs;

 

(d)    

a tactical operational decision;

 

(e)    

a decision which falls within the ordinary professional discretion of a

 

police officer.’.

 

Vernon Coaker

 

Diana Johnson

 

Clive Efford

 

Mark Tami

 

Withdrawn  91

 

Clause  2,  page  3,  line  1,  leave out subsection (5).

 

Vernon Coaker

 

Diana Johnson

 

Clive Efford

 

Mark Tami

 

Not called  330

 

Clause  2,  page  3,  line  2,  leave out from ‘to’ to end of line 3 and insert ‘protect


 
 

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fundamental rights, uphold the law and keep the peace.’.

 

Vernon Coaker

 

Diana Johnson

 

Clive Efford

 

Mark Tami

 

Not selected  92

 

Clause  2,  page  3,  line  6,  leave out subsection (7).

 

Clause Agreed to on division.

 


 

Mike Crockart

 

Dr Julian Huppert

 

Withdrawn  36

 

Schedule  2,  page  105,  line  25,  at end insert ‘for the purposes of employing staff’.

 

Vernon Coaker

 

Diana Johnson

 

Clive Efford

 

Mark Tami

 

Not moved  324

 

Schedule  2,  page  105,  line  29,  leave out subparagraph (1).

 

Vernon Coaker

 

Not selected  95

 

Schedule  2,  page  105,  leave out lines 29 to 31.

 

Vernon Coaker

 

Diana Johnson

 

Clive Efford

 

Mark Tami

 

Not called  325

 

Schedule  2,  page  106,  line  1,  leave out subparagraph 4(3) and paragraph 5.

 

Vernon Coaker

 

Not selected  96

 

Schedule  2,  page  106,  leave out lines 1 to 15.

 

Mike Crockart

 

Dr Julian Huppert

 

Not moved  37

 

Schedule  2,  page  106,  line  29,  at end insert ‘subject to a scheme of delegation

 

agreed by the relevant police and crime commissioner’.

 

Vernon Coaker

 

Diana Johnson

 

Clive Efford

 

Mark Tami

 

Not called  326

 

Schedule  2,  page  106,  line  30,  leave out subparagraph (2) and insert—


 
 

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Police Reform and Social Responsibility Bill, continued

 
 

‘(2)    

But a chief constable may not—

 

(a)    

enter into contracts or other agreements except employment agreements;

 

(b)    

acquire or dispose of property;

 

(c)    

acquire or dispose of land;

 

(d)    

borrow money

 

    

except as set out in the terms of a delegation agreement between the police and

 

crime commissioner and the chief constable under section 18.’.

 

Vernon Coaker

 

Not selected  97

 

Schedule  2,  page  106,  leave out lines 30 to 36 and insert—

 

‘(2)    

But a chief constable may not—

 

(a)    

enter into contracts or other agreements except employment agreements;

 

(b)    

acquire or dispose of property;

 

(c)    

acquire or dispose of land; or

 

(d)    

borrow money

 

    

except as set out in the terms of a delegation agreement between the police and

 

crime commissioner and the chief constable under section 18.’.

 

Dr Julian Huppert

 

Mike Crockart

 

Not called  47

 

Schedule  2,  page  106,  line  32,  leave out from ‘contracts’ to end of line 32 and insert

 

‘of employment’.

 

Vernon Coaker

 

Not moved  98

 

Schedule  2,  page  106,  line  39,  leave out paragraph 8.

 

Vernon Coaker

 

Diana Johnson

 

Clive Efford

 

Mark Tami

 

Not selected  327

 

Schedule  2,  page  106,  line  40,  leave out paragraph 8.

 

Schedule Agreed to.

 


 

Vernon Coaker

 

Diana Johnson

 

Clive Efford

 

Mark Tami

 

Not called  331

 

Clause  3,  page  4,  line  13,  at end insert—

 

‘(8A)    

The Mayor’s Office for Policing and Crime must not ask, require or encourage

 

the Commissioner of Police for the Metropolis to act in a manner which could—

 

(a)    

put the Commissioner in breach of his attestation under oath in

 

accordance with Schedule 4 of the Police Act 1996; or


 
 

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(b)    

conflict with the Commissioner’s exercise of direction and control under

 

section 4(3).

 

(8B)    

If the Commissioner of Police of the Metropolis reasonably believes that the

 

Mayor’s Office for Policing and Crime has asked, required or encouraged him to

 

act in a manner that is prohibited under subsection (8A), he may notify the

 

London Assembly police and crime panel.

 

(8C)    

For the avoidance of doubt, any purported direction by the Mayor’s Office for

 

Policing and Crime under subsection (8A) has no legal effect.’.

 

Clause Agreed to on division.

 


 

Vernon Coaker

 

Diana Johnson

 

Clive Efford

 

Mark Tami

 

Withdrawn  492

 

Schedule  3,  page  108,  line  20,  leave out paragraph 4.

 

Mike Crockart

 

Dr Julian Huppert

 

Withdrawn  38

 

Schedule  3,  page  109,  line  15,  after ‘Crime’, insert ‘and any person appointed by

 

the Mayor’s Office for Policing and Crime to give advice.’.

 

Mike Crockart

 

Dr Julian Huppert

 

Not called  39

 

Schedule  3,  page  109,  line  24,  at end insert—

 

  ‘(3A)  

These appointments should be subject to confirmation hearing under section

 

60(a) of the Great London Authority Act 1999’.

 

Nick Herbert

 

Agreed to  74

 

Schedule  3,  page  110,  line  16,  leave out ‘of the ordinary election in 2012’ and

 

insert ‘on which section 3 comes into force’.

 

Nick Herbert

 

Agreed to  75

 

Schedule  3,  page  110,  line  17,  leave out ‘following’ and insert ‘relevant’.

 

Nick Herbert

 

Agreed to  76

 

Schedule  3,  page  110,  leave out lines 20 and 21 and insert—

 

    ‘( )  

In this paragraph “relevant 31 March”, in relation to the first financial year of

 

the Mayor’s Office for Policing and Crime, means—

 

(a)    

if that financial year begins on or before 1 October, the first 31 March

 

that falls after the beginning of the financial year;

 

(b)    

if that financial year begins after 1 October, the second 31 March that

 

falls after the beginning of the financial year.’.


 
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