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House of Commons

Tuesday 28 June 2011

Public Bill Committee Proceedings

Health and Social Care (Re-committed) Bill

[First and Second Sittings]

The Bill is re-committed in respect of the following Clauses and Schedules:

Clauses 1 to 6, 9 to 11, 19 to 24, 28 and 29, Schedules 1 to 3, Clauses 55 and 56, 58

and 59, 63 to 75, 100 and 101, 112 to 117, 147, Schedules 8 and 9, Clauses 149, 156,

165 and 166, 176, 178 to 180, 189 to 193, Schedule 15, Clauses 242, 265, 285 and 286,

295, 297 and 298.

Mr Simon Burns

Agreed to

That—

(1)
the Committee shall (in addition to its first meeting at 10.30 am on Tuesday

28 June) meet—

(a)
at 4.00 pm on Tuesday 28 June;

(b)
at 9.00 am and 1.00 pm on Thursday 30 June;

(c)
at 10.30 am and 4.00 pm on Tuesday 5 July;

(d)
at 9.00 am and 1.00 pm on Thursday 7 July;

(e)
at 10.30 am and 4.00 pm on Tuesday 12 July;

(f)
at 9.00 am and 1.00 pm on Thursday 14 July;

(2)
the Committee shall hear oral evidence in accordance with the following

Table:

      TABLE 1

Date
Time
Witness

Tuesday 28 June
Until no later
NHS Future Forum

than 11.30 am

Tuesday 28 June
Until not later
NHS Confederation; The King’s

than 12.15 pm
Fund; The Nuffield Trust

Tuesday 28 June
Until no later
Independent Regulator of NHS

than 1.00 pm
Foundation Trusts (Monitor);

Foundation Trust Network; Local

Government Association

Tuesday 28 June
Until no later
British Medical Association; Royal

than 4.45 pm
College of Nursing; Royal College of

Physicians; Academy of Medical

Royal Colleges

Tuesday 28 June
Until no later
Royal College of General

than 5.15 pm
Practitioners; NHS Alliance

Tuesday 28 June
Until no later
National Voices; Rethink; MacMillan

than 6.15 pm
Cancer Support; Asthma UK;

Diabetes UK; Stroke Association

Tuesday 28 June
Until no later
Unite; Unison

than 6.45 pm

Tuesday 28 June
Until no later
Department of Health

than 7.30 pm

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Health and Social Care (Re-committed) Bill, continued

(3)
proceedings on consideration of the Bill shall (so far as not previously

concluded) be brought to a conclusion at the times specified in the second

column of the following Table:

      TABLE 2

Proceedings
Time for conclusion of

proceedings

Clauses 1 to 5; Schedule 1; Clause 6;
6.00 pm on Thursday 30 June

Clauses 9 to 11

Clauses 19 to 21; Schedule 2; Clauses
8.00 pm on Tuesday 5 July

22 to 24; Clauses 28 and 29; Schedule 3

Clause 55; Schedule 8; Clause 56;
6.00 pm on Thursday 7 July

Clauses 58 and 59; Clause 63

Clauses 64 to 69; Schedule 9; Clauses
8.00 pm on Tuesday 12 July

70 to 75; Clauses 100 and 101; Clauses

112 to 117; Clause 147

Clause 149; Clause 156; Clauses 165
7.00 pm on Thursday 14 July

and 166; Clause 176; Clauses 178 and

179; Schedule 15; Clause 180; Clauses

189 to 193; Clause 242; Clause 265;

Clauses 285 and 286; Clause 295;

Clauses 297 and 298; new Clauses; new

Schedules; remaining proceedings on

the Bill

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Health and Social Care (Re-committed) Bill, continued

Emily Thornberry

Negatived on division

As an Amendment to Mr Simon Burns’ proposed Motion—

In paragraph (1), leave out subparagraphs (d), (e) and (f) and insert—

‘(d)
at 9.30 am and 2.00 pm on Wednesday 6 July;

(e)
at 9.00 am and 1.00 pm on Thursday 7 July;

(f)
at 9.00 am and 1.00 pm on Friday 8 July;

(g)
at 10.30 am and 4.00 pm on Monday 11 July;

(h)
at 10.30 am and 4.00 pm on Tuesday 12 July;

(i)
at 9.30 am and 2.00 pm on Wednesday 13 July;

(j)
at 9.00 am and 1.00 pm on Thursday 14 July.’.

Emily Thornberry

Negatived on division

As an Amendment to Mr Simon Burns’ proposed Motion—

In the Table in paragraph (2), leave out the second, third, fourth, fifth, sixth, seventh

and eighth entries (relating to Tuesday 28 June), and insert—

‘Tuesday 28 June
Until no later
NHS Confederation

than 12.15 pm

Tuesday 28 June
Until no later
Independent Regulator of NHS

than 1.00 pm
Foundation Trusts (Monitor)

Tuesday 28 June
Until no later
Dr Michael Lloyd and Peter Roderick

than 5.30 pm

Thursday 30 June
Until no later
The King’s Fund; the Nuffield Trust

than 10.25 am

Thursday 30 June
Until no later
Foundation Trust Network; LGA

than 1.45 pm

Thursday 30 June
Until no later
British Medical Association; RCN;

than 2.30 pm
Royal College of Physicians;

Academy of Medical Royal Colleges

Thursday 30 June
Until no later
Royal College of General

than 3.30 pm
Practitioners; NHS Alliance

Tuesday 5 July
Until no later
National Voices; Rethink; MacMillan

than 1.00 pm
Cancer Support; Asthma UK;

Diabetes UK; Stroke Association

Tuesday 5 July
Until no later
Unite; Unison

than 5.00 pm

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Health and Social Care (Re-committed) Bill, continued

Tuesday 5 July
Until no later
Department of Health.’.

than 7.00 pm

Emily Thornberry

Negatived on division

As an Amendment to Mr Simon Burns’ proposed Motion—

Leave out paragraph (3) and insert—

‘(3)
proceedings on consideration of the Bill shall be taken in the following order:

Clauses 1 to 5; Schedule 1; Clause 6; Clauses 9 to 11; Clauses 19 to 21;

Schedule 2; Clauses 22 to 24; Clauses 28 and 29; Schedule 3; Clause 55;

Schedule 8; Clause 56; Clauses 58 and 59; Clauses 63 to 69; Schedule 9;

Clauses 70 to 75; Clauses 100 and 101; Clauses 112 to 117; Clause 147;

Clause 149; Clause 156; Clauses 165 and 166; Clause 176; Clauses 178 and

179; Schedule 15; Clause 180; Clauses 189 to 193; Clause 242; Clause 265;

Clauses 285 and 286; Clause 295; Clauses 297 and 298; new Clauses; new

Schedules; remaining proceedings on the Bill.

(4)
the proceedings shall (so far as not previously concluded) be brought to a

conclusion at 11.55 pm on Thursday 14 July.’.

Mr Simon Burns

That, subject to the discretion of the Chair, any written evidence received by the

Committee shall be reported to the House for publication.

Agreed to

Mr Simon Burns

That, at this and any subsequent meeting at which oral evidence is to be heard, the

Committee shall sit in private until the witnesses are admitted.

Agreed to

The following witnesses gave oral evidence:

Professor Stephen Field, Chair, NHS Future Forum; Dr Kathy McLean, Clinical Advice and

Leadership, NHS Future Forum;

Mike Farrar, Chief Executive, NHS Confederation; Professor Chris Ham, Chief Executive, The

King’s Fund; Dr Jennifer Dixon, The Nuffield Trust;

Dr David Bennett, Chair and Interim Chief Executive, Monitor - Independent Regulator of NHS

Foundation Trusts; Sonia Brown, Chief Economist, Monitor - Independent Regulator of NHS

Foundation Trusts; Sue Slipman, Director, Foundation Trust Network; Cllr Dr Gareth Barnard,

Vice Chair, Community Wellbeing Board and member for Bracknell Forest BC, Local Government

Group; Andrew Cozens, Strategic Advisor for Children, Families and Health, Local Government

Group;

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Health and Social Care (Re-committed) Bill, continued

Dr Hamish Meldrum, Chairman, BMA Council, British Medical Association; Dr Peter Carter,

Chief Executive and General Secretary, Royal College of Nursing; Sir Richard Thompson,

President, Royal College of Physicians; Professor Sir Neil Douglas, Chairman, Academy of

Medical Royal Colleges;

Dr Clare Gerada, Chair, Royal College of General Practioners; Dr David Paynton, Joint Clinical

Lead, Royal College of General Practitioners; Dr Mike Dixon, Chairman, NHS Alliance; Michael

Sobanja, Chief Executive, NHS Alliance;

Paul Jenkins, Chief Executive, Rethink and The Richmond Group; Jeremy Taylor, Chief Executive,

National Voices; Ciarán Devane, Chief Executive, Macmillan Cancer Support; Neil Churchill,

Chief Executive, Asthma UK; Baroness Barbara Young, Chief Executive, Diabetes UK; Joe

Korner, Director of Communications, Stroke Association;

Gail Adams, Head of Nursing, UNISON; Racheil Maskell, National Officer, UNITE;

Rt Hon Andrew Lansley MP, Secretary of State for Health; Rt Hon Simon Burns MP, Minister of

State for Health; Paul Burstow MP, Minister of State for Care Services.

[Adjourned until Thursday at 9.00 am



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