The
Committee consisted of the following
Members:
Chair:
Mr Peter
Bone
†
Bryant,
Chris (Rhondda)
(Lab)
†
Burt,
Lorely (Solihull)
(LD)
†
Cairns,
David (Inverclyde)
(Lab)
†
Collins,
Damian (Folkestone and Hythe)
(Con)
†
Dunne,
Mr Philip (Ludlow)
(Con)
Edwards,
Jonathan (Carmarthen East and Dinefwr)
(PC)
Farrelly,
Paul (Newcastle-under-Lyme)
(Lab)
Gapes,
Mike (Ilford South)
(Lab/Co-op)
†
Harper,
Mr Mark (Parliamentary Secretary, Cabinet
Office)
Jamieson,
Cathy (Kilmarnock and Loudoun)
(Lab/Co-op)
†
Johnson,
Gareth (Dartford)
(Con)
†
Latham,
Pauline (Mid Derbyshire)
(Con)
†
Leslie,
Charlotte (Bristol North West)
(Con)
†
McCartney,
Karl (Lincoln) (Con)
†
Mills,
Nigel (Amber Valley)
(Con)
†
Reynolds,
Jonathan (Stalybridge and Hyde)
(Lab/Co-op)
†
Roy,
Lindsay (Glenrothes)
(Lab)
†
Williams,
Mr Mark (Ceredigion)
(LD)
Mark Etherton, Committee
Clerk
† attended the
Committee
Second
Delegated Legislation
Committee
Monday 7 March
2011
[Mr
Peter Bone
in the
Chair]
Local
Authorities (Mayoral Elections) (England and Wales) (Amendment)
Regulations
2011
4.37
pm
The
Parliamentary Secretary, Cabinet Office (Mr Mark Harper):
I beg to
move,
That
the Committee has considered the draft Local Authorities (Mayoral
Elections) (England and Wales) (Amendment) Regulations
2011.
It
is always a pleasure, Mr Bone, to see you in the Chair, but it is
particularly so on this
occasion.
The
regulations address an oversight in the drafting of the existing
regulations on the conduct of local mayoral elections, concerning the
use, by candidates, of party emblems on ballot papers. The existing law
clearly states that a candidate standing for a single party may use an
emblem on their ballot paper, but it does not allow for jointly
nominated candidates to do so. For example, candidates standing for
both the Labour party and the Co-operative party are not able to use a
party emblem because of the flaw in the drafting. The proposed changes
will enable a candidate standing on behalf of two or more registered
political parties at a local mayoral election to request that the
ballot paper feature, alongside their particulars, an emblem registered
by one of the
parties.
Five
local mayoral elections are scheduled to take place on 5 May 2011, and
the regulations will ensure that the issue is addressed beforehand. We
have consulted the Electoral Commission formally, and it has indicated
that it is content with the changes. Statutory instruments on the same
issue for local and parish elections have also been laid before
Parliament subject to the negative resolution procedure, and the error
is also corrected in relevant separate legislation governing the
conduct of elections to the Scottish Parliament, the Welsh Assembly and
the Northern Ireland Assembly, and the conduct of the local elections
in Northern Ireland on 5 May. That is the outline of the problem and
the proposed solution, and I hope that the Committee will be
content.
4.39
pm
Chris
Bryant (Rhondda) (Lab):
I have never known greater
pleasure than when you walked in the door this afternoon, Mr Bone.
Well, that is not strictly true, but it was a great delight to see you
arrive. It is a delight to welcome the legislation, not least because
the Opposition Whip, my hon. Friend the Member for Stalybridge and
Hyde, is one of the people caught by our initial cock-up. It is a
particular delight to congratulate the Government on sorting out the
tiny mess that we left.
For those who
do not know, many Labour candidates are also members of the
Co-operative party, which was one of the instigating organisations that
helped the
Labour party come into existence. Several people stand
as both Labour party and Co-operative party candidates.
Incidentally, I note that this year marks the 100th
anniversary of the Rhondda Labour party.
Because of the
mild ineptitude in past drafting, and the way in which legislation is
knitted together, if people stand for two parties, they are unable to
use an emblem for either one on the ballot paper. People therefore have
to decide whether to stand as a candidate for only one party, or not to
have an emblem on the ballot paper. That was not the intention behind
the original legislation, so it is good to clarify the
matter.
However,
I shall ask the Minister a few short questions. First, why not have two
emblems? If a candidate can stand for two political parties, why can
they not use the emblems for both?
Secondly, I
note from the explanatory memorandum that the regulations deal with
mayoral elections. I understand why the Government are moving
forward—they have the legal power to do so under statutory
instruments in relation to those areas and others. For general election
candidates, however, they must proceed through primary legislation.
When will such legislation come before us, and what Bill might the
Government use? Perhaps it will be the recall Bill.
Thirdly, the
regulations will allow a candidate who is standing for the Labour and
the Co-operative parties to choose one of the emblems. There might,
however, be significant advantage to the Government in allowing
candidates to have both emblems on the ballot paper, because people
might want to stand for both the Conservative party and the Liberal
Democrats in the next general election. I am thinking particularly of
the Minister’s boss, the Deputy Prime Minister, who, in
Sheffield, might have a specific need to stand for both parties. Will
the Minister confirm that the regulations will allow candidates to do
that, and that all they will need to do is get the permission of the
nominating officer? I gather that the Conservative party nominating
officer is Alan Mabbutt, who I am sure is open to
suggestions—from the Liberal Democrats, perhaps. For the Liberal
Democrats, it is Sarah Morris. I have met neither of those people. Can
the Minister confirm that the regulations will allow candidates to
stand for both those parties, and would it not be nice for them to put
both emblems on the ballot paper so that people would know they were
voting for the coalition at the next general election?
Finally, I
note that one of the candidates who will be standing in the mayoral
elections is my hon. Friend the Member for Leicester South (Sir Peter
Soulsby), whom I wish well. I do not know whether he is intending to
take advantage of the regulations, but, none the less, I congratulate
the Minister on introducing
them.
4.43
pm
Mr
Harper:
I will not get into just how excited I was when
you walked into the room, Mr Bone, because I fear that might lead me
into all sorts of difficulties.
I shall deal
first with the couple of sensible questions that the hon. Member for
Rhondda has asked; then I shall answer the slightly less sensible one.
On the issue about the other elections that need to be fixed, our
priority was to fix the problem, which, as he generously explained, was
caused by his own party in 2006. We
wanted to ensure that the problem was sorted out in time for this
year’s elections, where it mattered. The regulations obviously
fixes it for the mayoral elections, and we have laid statutory
instruments to deal with it for the local and parish elections, and the
conduct orders deal with it for the devolved elections and the Northern
Ireland local elections. We will introduce the necessary secondary
legislation for the European Parliament elections and the Greater
London authority elections next year and in 2014, not in that
order.
The hon.
Gentleman is right to say that to fix the issue for the general
election will require primary legislation. We have already set out that
we will have a Bill that deals with individual electoral registration
and other matters. It is our intention to use that Bill, or if that
proves to be unnecessary, we will use another one. That is the
likeliest option, however, and we can confirm that is our intention to
fix this problem ahead of the 2015 general
election.
Chris
Bryant:
So it will be definitely be done by the next
general
election.
Mr
Harper:
Yes. It is the Government’s intention to
fix it ahead of the next general election, so that those candidates who
stand for more than one political party, such as the example he gave of
the Opposition Whip, will be happy.
David
Cairns (Inverclyde) (Lab):
For the sake of completeness,
can he confirm that that will apply to elections to the Scottish
Parliament? Responsibility for running those elections still resides
with this
House.
Mr
Harper:
The legislation applies to those elections. The
hon. Gentleman will know that for this year’s election the
conduct orders that were laid have been sorted out. He will know that
if the Scotland Bill passes through the House, future administrative
requirements will be devolved to the Scottish Parliament. A number
of areas, such as the franchise and some of the conduct provisions, are
still reserved to this House. Some of the administrative matters are
devolved to Scottish Ministers. That is in the Scotland Bill, which is
being debated today and was debated last week in the Scottish
Parliament. We intend that the measure will cover that as
well.
On
the less serious points that the hon. Member for Rhondda raised, I am
sure that the two nominating officers—Alan Mabbutt for the
Conservative party and Sarah Morris for the Liberal
Democrats—are devastated that the hon. Gentleman has not had an
opportunity to meet them. I do not know how they will cope. We do not
think that it is appropriate for jointly nominated candidates to have
more than one emblem. There should be a level playing field, with one
emblem on the ballot paper for each candidate. If someone is standing
on behalf of two parties, they can either have the emblem relating to
one of those parties or they can register a joint emblem. As for the
substantive, mischievous point that he was making, it is clear that the
Liberal Democrats and the Conservatives are separate parties that will
be running separate candidates. His point, therefore, does not
arise.
Chris
Bryant:
I just wonder what the joint logo of a
Conservative and Liberal candidate would look like. Presumably, it
would be a bird in a tree. To some people, that might be attractive. A
partridge in a pear tree,
perhaps.
Mr
Harper:
I did wonder, when I gave way to the hon.
Gentleman, whether it would be entirely worth while and I fear that it
was not. He enjoys having his fun.
The oversight
will be fixed for all subsequent elections and for general elections,
before the next general election. I hope therefore that the Committee
will be able to approve the
regulation.
Question
put and agreed
to.
4.48
pm
Committee
rose.