The
Committee consisted of the following
Members:
Chair:
Mr Mike
Weir
†
Barclay,
Stephen (North East Cambridgeshire)
(Con)
†
Birtwistle,
Gordon (Burnley)
(LD)
†
Burt,
Lorely (Solihull)
(LD)
†
Clarke,
Mr Tom (Coatbridge, Chryston and Bellshill)
(Lab)
†
Cunningham,
Mr Jim (Coventry South)
(Lab)
†
Dinenage,
Caroline (Gosport)
(Con)
†
Donohoe,
Mr Brian H. (Central Ayrshire)
(Lab)
†
Doyle-Price,
Jackie (Thurrock)
(Con)
†
Gauke,
Mr David (Exchequer Secretary to the
Treasury)
†
Goodwill,
Mr Robert (Scarborough and Whitby)
(Con)
†
Hanson,
Mr David (Delyn)
(Lab)
†
Hollingbery,
George (Meon Valley)
(Con)
†
Metcalfe,
Stephen (South Basildon and East Thurrock)
(Con)
Pearce,
Teresa (Erith and Thamesmead)
(Lab)
†
Reynolds,
Jonathan (Stalybridge and Hyde)
(Lab/Co-op)
Ritchie,
Ms Margaret (South Down)
(SDLP)
†
Smith,
Mr Andrew (Oxford East)
(Lab)
†
Stephenson,
Andrew (Pendle) (Con)
Alison
Groves, Committee Clerk
†
attended the Committee
Third
Delegated Legislation
Committee
Wednesday 2
March
2011
[Mr
Mike Weir
in the
Chair]
Draft
Penalties, Offshore Income etc. (Designation of Territories) Order
2011
2.30
pm
The
Exchequer Secretary to the Treasury (Mr David Gauke):
I
beg to
move,
That
the Committee has considered the draft Penalties, Offshore Income etc.
(Designation of Territories) Order
2011.
It
is a great pleasure to serve under your chairmanship, Mr
Weir.
The
order is an important step in implementing new penalties for offshore
non-compliance with income tax and capital gains tax. Right hon. and
hon. Members will be aware of the risk to tax revenues that is posed by
those who do not declare offshore income. Her Majesty’s Revenue
and Customs’ review of powers, deterrents and safeguards has in
recent years modernised and aligned HMRC’s powers to obtain
information and to penalise those who do not comply with their tax
obligations, yet those powers are effective only when they can be
enforced. When income and gains arising abroad give rise to a tax
liability here, HMRC uses the exchange of information and other mutual
assistance arrangements with foreign tax authorities to help to detect
and remedy
non-compliance.
New
penalties that will come into effect for the 2011-12 tax year will
raise the stakes for those who do not declare their offshore
liabilities and, at the same time, signal the UK’s endorsement
of the work of the G20 and the OECD to encourage all jurisdictions to
implement international standards of tax transparency and exchange of
information. The penalties will play an important role in our drive
against tax evasion. Recent disclosure opportunities have helped to
address past non-compliance, and HMRC has used its information powers
to obtain information on offshore accounts from banks operating in the
UK. There was also an announcement of £900 million
over the spending review period to tackle evasion, including funding
for new teams to tackle offshore evasion. The penalties underpin those
measures by increasing the deterrent against offshore non-compliance
and giving taxpayers more incentive to get their affairs in
order.
For
tax years from 2011-12 onwards, penalties will be linked to the tax
transparency of the country in which income or gains arise. If income
or gains arising in a so-called category 1 territory are not declared
to HMRC, penalties will be due at the existing rate of up to
100% of the tax lost. Where a category 2 territory is
concerned, penalties will be due at 1.5 times the existing
rate—up to 150% of tax. For a category 3 territory, penalties
will be doubled, so the most serious evasion of tax on income from such
countries will attract penalties of up to 200% of the tax
evaded. The draft order designates which territories will be placed in
categories 1 and 3. All other territories, with the exception of the
UK, will be considered to be in category 2.
I shall say a
little about how that classification was arrived at. The process has
mostly been mechanical and objective to consider the information
exchange agreements that are in force between the UK and its
international partners. The classification is not a judgment on the
integrity of a jurisdiction, and nor should it be interpreted as a list
of “tax havens” or any other such term. The primary
legislation sets out several factors that must be considered when
devising the instrument: first, the existence of information exchange
agreements must be taken into account; and, secondly, the quality of
such agreements must be considered, particularly with regard to whether
they provide for the automatic exchange of information on savings
income.
Territories
that have agreed to share such information automatically with the UK
are designated as being in category 1. That includes territories that
share such information under the European savings directive or related
bilateral agreements with the UK. Those territories that are not listed
in the instrument are largely those that have agreed to exchange
information with the UK on request, which fall into category 2. Those
that have no agreement to share information with us are mostly
designated in category 3. In a few cases, such as with Barbados, and
Antigua and Barbuda, although there is an old agreement in force, the
deficiencies in the information-sharing arrangements provided for by
the agreement mean that it falls well short of international standards
for exchange of information on request. As a consequence, the agreement
cannot be said to provide for the effective exchange of information, so
those territories are also placed in category
3.
The
UK is working with its partners to tackle deficiencies in treaties with
a view to allowing for the exchange of information to a sufficient
standard and moving the territory to category 2. For example, we will
be starting negotiations with Barbados on a new treaty in a matter of
weeks, and a new agreement with Antigua and Barbuda has already been
signed. When no information exchange agreement exists, the primary
legislation also allows the Treasury to consider whether the UK would
derive benefit from an agreement were one to come into force. That
consideration may then be taken into account in the classification. We
have used that provision to place some of the least developed countries
into category 2, even if they have no information-sharing arrangements
with the UK. That addresses several concerns raised when the proposal
was first introduced about the disproportionate impact on such
countries.
The
order is the first version of the classification, and it is not
envisaged that that will be set in stone. The world is becoming a
smaller place for those who do not pay the tax due on their offshore
affairs. Countries are increasingly recognising the benefits of signing
up to international standards for the exchange of tax information. The
work of the Global Forum on Transparency and Exchange of Information
for Tax Purposes, which now has a membership of more than 90
jurisdictions, will help to measure progress towards applying those
standards in practice. As countries move to sign and put in place new
agreements, we expect the number of territories in category 3 to fall.
We will keep the classification under review and update it as
necessary.
I
want to bring a typographical error in the draft order to the attention
of the Committee. The reference at the top of the schedule to
“Articles 3 and 4” should,
of course, read “Articles 2 and 3”. I reassure the
Committee that that will be corrected in the final version of the
instrument. I commend the order to the Committee and I am happy to
answer any questions that hon. Members might
have.
2.36
pm
Mr
David Hanson (Delyn) (Lab):
I welcome you to the Chair, Mr
Weir.
The
official Opposition broadly welcome the thrust of the order, which will
be made under powers in schedule 24 to the Finance Act 2007, which was
passed under the previous Government as part of the approach to try to
tackle tax avoidance and tighten up agreements with other nations. We
certainly want proper and effective mechanisms to ensure that the right
amount of tax is paid in the right jurisdiction by individuals so that
we do not have tax avoidance and such tax revenue is used for the
benefit of the British public as a
whole.
Penalties
that may be levied under schedule 10 to the Finance Act 2010 will come
into effect shortly. The severity of the penalties will depend on the
category of nation under the order. As the Minister explained, a
territory is in category 1 if agreements are in place to provide for
the exchange of tax information. A territory is in category 2 if
information will be shared on request, while for countries in category
3, there is no information-sharing agreement or the arrangements are of
insufficient
quality.
We
accept the broad principle of the order, which helps to clarify which
territories fall into which category. However, I have some questions
for the Minister about the categorisation of some relevant nations. Let
us focus on the territories in category 3 under the schedule to the
order. I refer the Minister to a response that he gave on 17 January to
a parliamentary question tabled by the hon. Member for Banff and Buchan
(Dr Whiteford) in which he set out several countries with which tax
information exchange agreements were “in force”. Included
in those countries were several that are listed under category 3, which
I remind him and the Committee is the category for territories with
which no information-sharing arrangements exist or for which the
arrangements are of insufficient quality. Why have some those
territories been placed in category 3, given that he said on
17 January, in response to the question asked by the hon.
Member for Banff and Buchan, that tax information exchange agreements
are in force with places such as Antigua and Barbuda, which he
mentioned in his opening comments, St Kitts and Nevis, St Lucia, St
Vincent and the Grenadines, Aruba and, interestingly,
Belize.
Hon.
Members, and especially Labour Members, will remember that Belize
attracted controversy in the run-up to the election, when the noble
Lord Ashcroft was subject to some discussion about his tax status. It
is not for me to discuss that today, although I could elucidate on that
if Members wished. Interestingly, I happened to find, while researching
the order, a copy of the Daily Mail—that wonderful
organ—from 25 March 2010 that included an article about the
Labour Government’s final Budget, which it termed the
“Belize Budget”, with reference to Lord Ashcroft. The
article stated that my right hon. Friend the Member for Edinburgh South
West (Mr Darling) had said that
the
“Treasury
was close to signing tax information exchange agreements with the
Caribbean state”
of Belize. I would
welcome the Minister’s comments about the progress of that. If
an agreement has been signed and has been in place since around the
time of last year’s Budget—my right hon. Friend indicated
that it was forthcoming—why is it of insufficient quality, or
why has it not been signed? Belize is included in category 3
in the schedule before us, indicating that the agreement was either not
of sufficient quality or not in existence to ensure that we could place
Belize in the list of designated territories for tax
purposes.
For some of
those territories—there are probably more—the Minister
has explained that either the tax agreements in place were not of
sufficient quality or that agreements have not yet been completed. Some
were ones that the Labour Government tried to progress, such as the one
that impacted on the noble Lord Ashcroft, which now appears to be of
insufficient quality for the current Government to put that territory
into categories 2 or
1.
Let
me give the Committee the current status. There are a number of
territories that—let us be generous—have tax-friendly
authorities: Andorra, where there is no personal income tax; Barbados,
which is a low-tax regime; the Cook Islands; Nauru, where no taxes are
paid; Panama; and several others that I could go through. Individuals
may place resources in those tax-friendly regimes and legally avoid
taxation. I accept that there is a heavy penalty for tax avoidance, but
those countries are in category 3. Why is there a lack of sufficient
quality in the countries that I have mentioned so that they could not
be moved from category 3 to categories 2 or 1? What steps has the
Minister taken to ensure that, particularly with those low-tax,
tax-friendly regimes, we have clarity on sharing tax information so
that people who invest in, put their resources in, or work or travel in
those areas are clear about their tax liabilities in this country and
the nations that I have mentioned?
Will the
Minister indicate whether the Treasury has made any assessment of the
likely number of individuals from the UK or other countries who will be
forwarded to category 3 in relation to the overall business that is
undertaken with those nations? Categories 1 and 2 are simple and
straightforward. With category 1 there are clear information-sharing
arrangements and, with category 2, we have on-request
sharing arrangements. For all the countries in category 3, we either
are not confident of the quality of the tax agreement with them, or
there is no agreement. How many UK residents does the Minister believe
are currently working in, generating income in or undertaking business
with Andorra, Barbados, the Cook Islands, Dominica or any of the other
nations in category 3? If we had that answer, we would know the
possible loss of income to the British taxpayer as a result of not
having a tax agreement with such authorities. That is an important
point. If individuals are paying little or no tax in Andorra, Barbados,
Nauru, the Cook Islands or other territories, and avoiding UK tax by
doing so, that tax is ultimately lost to the Treasury, lost to the
deficit and lost to public spending. The Minister needs to be clear
about the extent of such
practice.
I
would also welcome some information about the review process. The
Minister says that the list is not fixed, which I accept, but will he
tell us when and how the Treasury intends to review the categories, and
particularly category 3? How will that review be undertaken
and how often will it happen? When and how will the categories be
updated? If the categories do change, will the update take place
through secondary legislation that will be considered in
Committee?
Will
the Minister also indicate the likely time scale for the negotiation of
tax agreements, particularly with countries in category 3? I recognise
that several such agreements are coming up—we seem to spend a
lot of time in such Committees dealing with them—and proceedings
on them started under the previous Government. However, there are some
significant nations in category 3, so I shall be grateful if the
Minister indicates which nations he is prioritising and the anticipated
time scale for trying to open negotiations with, say, the top five. Are
any countries in the list refusing to negotiate? Are there any
particularly difficult issues with any of those countries? At what
stage will that schedule be updated, and how will it be
updated?
I
raise those important points because this approach is about maximising
the UK’s tax take, and ensuring that people pay fair taxes and
that taxation is transparent. I accept the designations that have been
set out—the official Opposition will not oppose the
order—but I would welcome some clarification on the points that
I have
raised.
2.47
pm
Lorely
Burt (Solihull) (LD):
I would like to ask my hon. Friend
the Minister for some clarification because I am not knowledgeable
about tax matters, as will soon become apparent. I am pleased that we
are tightening up on all forms of tax evasion, and obviously the order
is a valuable part of
that.
The
Minister said that tax evaders under category 1 would pay a penalty of
up to 100%. Is that 100% of the outstanding sum, or is it the
outstanding sum plus an additional 100%? If we will require people to
pay only the 100% penalty, what is the incentive for people to pay tax,
because in such circumstances, the most that people would ever have to
pay is the amount that they should have paid in the first
place?
2.48
pm
Mr
Gauke:
I thank the right hon. Member for Delyn and my hon.
Friend the Member for Solihull for their questions and support for the
order. I shall attempt to address the various points that they
raised.
There
is a shared view on both sides of the Committee that it is important to
address offshore tax evasion. The right hon. Member for Delyn asked
about the scale of the problem and how many individuals have evaded
taxes by holding offshore accounts. Of course, given the very nature of
the process, it is difficult to give a precise figure. We do not have
information about such accounts and we cannot know how many there are.
All Governments have faced that problem. HMRC will focus on tackling
offshore evasion over the next few years, and we anticipate an
additional yield of some £5 billion through the action it will
take up to 2015.
I shall deal
with the point about why some countries are in category 3 even though
agreements have been signed. The right hon. Gentleman referred to my
answer of 17 January, in which I stated that we had concluded
agreements with a number of those countries. That means that those have
been signed, but they are not necessarily in force. We may recognise
only agreements that are in force for the purposes of the
categorisation. Once those agreements are in force, we will recognise
them in a future version of the instrument, moving the territory into
category 2. That will be done through a new order, which will be
subject to the negative procedure. Essentially, once a country has
agreed to share information to international standards it can move into
category 2. It is absolutely the case that we want to move as many
countries as possible into that category.
Mr
Hanson:
Let us take one example. By chance, let us pick on
Belize. When will its agreement come into force—at what stage is
it? Will the Minister tell us the progress that has been
made?
Mr
Gauke:
I am happy to respond specifically on Belize. A
previous agreement was in force that was not up to international
standards. We have now signed another agreement. As the right hon.
Gentleman will be aware, we must now go through the process of giving
it parliamentary approval. I believe that we will do so as part of our
consideration of a block of other territories—I am not sure
whether that will be before or after Easter. I hope that he will be
pleased to learn that we are making rapid progress on that particular
agreement, along with others.
Mr
Hanson:
Twelve months.
Mr
Gauke:
The right hon. Gentleman chunters about the
timetable, but he will be aware that the time lags in the previous
Parliament for progressing some of these information exchange
agreements were sometimes considerable. None the less, we are
proceeding quickly on that.
We have
approved a large number of tax information exchange agreements already
in this Parliament, and we hope to proceed with many more over the
forthcoming months. We are making progress on Belize, as we are on
Antigua and Barbuda, to which much the same timetable will
apply.
Mr
Hanson:
On 17 January, the hon. Member for Banff and
Buchan asked the Minister which agreements had been established for
countries and whether he had any plans to review such agreements. He
answered that agreements had been signed; he did not say that they were
not in force. Will he tell us the dates on which the agreements to
which his answer referred will be in effect rather than an
aspiration?
Mr
Gauke:
Of course, that is subject to our ratification
procedures in this country—in Westminster—and to those of
our international partners. We aim to move as quickly as possible, and
a number of those agreements will be dealt with. The timetable is well
established and is operating somewhat more quickly than has been the
case on many occasions in recent years.
Mr
Hanson:
I cannot speak for the former Treasury Ministers,
because I was in the Home Office at the time. I am asking this
Minister, however, to give a final
backstop date by which the agreements that he mentioned in his 17
January reply will be in force, as opposed to signed. If he cannot, we
shall have to table questions on a regular basis to follow through on
each of them—St Kitts; Belize; Aruba; and
Antigua—to find out when they are in force rather than simply
being negotiated and signed.
Mr
Gauke:
This matter is subject to the parliamentary
timetable for agreement through the usual channels, and I suspect that
the right hon. Gentleman is more familiar with those procedures than I
am. We need to find an opportunity to debate these matters in Committee
and progress them, and we continue to move as quickly as possible. When
I was in opposition, I remember making the point to Treasury Ministers
that it was important to progress this as quickly as possible. We were
prepared to be flexible to ensure that a number of orders could be
debated on one day so that we could expedite the process, and I am sure
that he wants to share that approach. On the point that he raised, I am
happy to write to him to provide whatever details we have. I am sure
that he understands that timetabling constraints in the House determine
when we can move these matters through, but we are keen to do so as
quickly as possible.
Mr
Hanson:
I am sorry to be persistent, but what causes me
concern is not so much the timetabling arrangements in the House as
those of the other party, because we are talking about an agreement.
The agreements have been signed, and whatever our time scale in the
House, they need to be ratified by other nations as well. We can
complete our proceedings by Easter. I will happily agree to ratify the
provisions; we have not objected so far to any orders. I am interested
in when the nations with which we are agreeing will ratify so that the
order comes into effect and is not just an aspiration on our
part—a signed agreement that is worthless until it takes
effect.
Mr
Gauke:
Of course, it is in the interests of countries that
have signed the agreements to progress the matter, not least so that
they can move from category 3 to category 2. I am quite happy to write
to the right hon. Gentleman with the information that we have on this
area. We are keen to progress the matter as quickly as possible, and we
are keen for our international partners do so sooner rather than later.
He appears to be particularly concerned about Belize. Let me put his
mind at rest: it has already ratified, as have Antigua and St Kitts.
They have notified us of that fact, so there is no feet-dragging there.
I am sure that he will be pleased, as we all will, when we can ratify,
which will be as soon as we possibly
can.
We
will review the classification regularly, and we will need to update it
to reflect changed circumstances such as the coming into force of some
of the agreements. Given the speed with which new information-sharing
arrangements are being agreed and are coming into force, we have no
precise timetable of exactly when we will update the list, but I
anticipate at least one revision during the next 12 months.
I turn to the
question raised by my hon. Friend the Member for Solihull on penalties.
I assure her that the penalties are in addition to having to repay the
tax that is due. Clearly, in the case of a category 3 territory in
particular, that is a significant penalty and an increase on what we
had before. I am pleased that the approach has cross-party
support.
I hope that I
have been able to assure right hon. and hon. Members with further
clarity on some of the points that have been raised. I am grateful for
the constructive way in which questions were asked, and I hope that the
Committee will accept the order.
Question
put and agreed
to.
2.59
pm
Committee
rose.