The
Committee consisted of the following
Members:
Chair:
Mr
David Crausby
†
Barclay,
Stephen (North East Cambridgeshire)
(Con)
†
Birtwistle,
Gordon (Burnley)
(LD)
Campbell,
Mr Gregory (East Londonderry)
(DUP)
†
Carswell,
Mr Douglas (Clacton)
(Con)
†
De
Piero, Gloria (Ashfield)
(Lab)
†
Gapes,
Mike (Ilford South)
(Lab/Co-op)
†
McClymont,
Gregg (Cumbernauld, Kilsyth and Kirkintilloch East)
(Lab)
†
McGovern,
Alison (Wirral South)
(Lab)
†
McGovern,
Jim (Dundee West)
(Lab)
†
Metcalfe,
Stephen (South Basildon and East Thurrock)
(Con)
†
Mowat,
David (Warrington South)
(Con)
†
Newmark,
Mr Brooks (Lord Commissioner of Her Majesty's
Treasury)
†
Roy,
Lindsay (Glenrothes)
(Lab)
†
Russell,
Bob (Colchester)
(LD)
†
Shepherd,
Mr Richard (Aldridge-Brownhills)
(Con)
†
Vaizey,
Mr Edward (Parliamentary Under-Secretary of State for Culture,
Olympics, Media and
Sport)
†
Whitehead,
Dr Alan (Southampton, Test)
(Lab)
†
Wilson,
Mr Rob (Reading East)
(Con)
Mark Oxborough, Judith Boyce,
Committee Clerks
† attended
the Committee
Third
Delegated Legislation
Committee
Tuesday
22 March
2011
[Mr
David Crausby
in the
Chair]
Draft
Media Ownership (Radio and Cross-media) Order
2011
4.30
pm
The
Parliamentary Under-Secretary of State for Culture, Olympics, Media and
Sport (Mr Edward Vaizey):
I beg to
move,
That
the Committee has considered the draft Media Ownership (Radio and
Cross-media) Order
2011.
I
am grateful, Mr Crausby, for the opportunity to debate this important
order. I am sure that all hon. Members can agree that a vibrant media
sector is an essential part of a healthy society. Central to that is a
media industry that reflects the diversity of opinion and plurality of
voice of its listeners, readers and viewers. Those principles of
plurality and diversity have long underpinned the legislative and
regulatory regimes that govern our media industry, and they remain
relevant today. However, the principles need to be balanced with the
realities of the markets in which media companies compete. That is
particularly true in the context of local
media.
During
the past decade, there has been a notable decline in the revenues of
the local newspaper and local radio industries. For example, local and
regional newspaper advertising revenues fell by almost 6% in the second
quarter of 2010, and the Advertising Association forecasts that
revenues will continue to fall throughout 2010-11. Alongside falling
revenues, local media companies face greater competition for their
listeners and readers from the growth of digital technologies.
Consumers now have a greater-than-ever choice of excellent content,
across a multitude of platforms on any number of
devices.
The
Government are keen to help the local media market to face the
fundamental structural and cyclical changes, while at the same time
preserving the characteristics that make it relevant and important to
local people and communities. In the coalition’s programme for
government, we stated our intention to address the question through a
commitment
to
“enable
partnerships between local newspapers, radio and television stations to
promote a strong and diverse local media
industry.”
The
relaxation of the media ownership rules through the order represents
the beginning of the process by removing barriers to businesses, so
that they can evolve and adapt to the changing environment in which
they now operate. The relaxation of ownership rules to promote
investment and innovation is a well established principle, which
underpinned the ownership changes in the Communications Act 2003,
passed by the previous Government. The rationale for protecting
plurality through ownership rules was always going to be challenged, as
plurality and diversity are increasingly delivered through digital
platforms and new technology.
Bob
Russell (Colchester) (LD):
My apologies for arriving late,
but I waited until what I thought was an appropriate moment to
intervene. I come from a local newspaper background as the former
editor of a weekly newspaper once owned by a local family firm in north
Essex. That group is now owned in America. In addition, Heart Radio has
shut down many local radio stations across the country. Will the
Minister explain where the localism and diversity are when newspapers
are now owned by Americans and Heart Radio shuts down its local radio
stations?
Mr
Vaizey:
To a certain extent, my hon. Friend, if I may call
him that—I would be honoured to do so—gets straight to
the heart of the matter. It is important that we liberalise media
regulation to allow opportunities for investment in local content,
wherever that may come from. Clearly, investment in local content, even
if it comes from abroad, can be welcome if it safeguards jobs and
plurality. My local newspaper, the excellent Wantage & Grove
Herald, is owned by an American company, Newsquest, and apart from
a little bump in the road during the expenses scandal in 2009, it has,
on the whole, provided excellent local coverage of the activities of
the Member of Parliament and other local
politicians.
My
hon. Friend’s point about Heart Radio is also very interesting,
because my understanding of how the owner of Heart Radio, which I think
is Global Radio, is going about its business is that it is using
technology to reduce costs so that it can continue to invest in local
content. I have visited its headquarters in Leicester square and seen
some of the technology that it is using. The opportunity for it, by
investing in different local radio stations, to provide a national
technology platform to deliver both national content, to an extent, and
local content will be of great benefit to the residents of Colchester,
but of course my hon. Friend’s point is perfectly valid. Knowing
his interests, I think that the key test for him is whether local radio
and, indeed, local newspapers continue to report the excellent form of
Colchester United as they progress through various
leagues.
In
2009, under the previous Government, Ofcom did indeed carry out such a
review, and recommended to that Government that significant
liberalisation of the local rules was the way forward. It argued that
such liberalisation could give the industry
more
“flexibility
to respond to pressures”
and remove potential
barriers to the longer-term sustainability of the
sector.
Ofcom
consulted as part of that review, and the majority of the
responses—eight of the 14 received—supported the removal
of cross-media ownership rules to the extent recommended by Ofcom. The
Newspaper Society and the Guardian Media Group wanted to go further,
and advocated a complete removal of the local ownership rules. GMG said
that liberalisation, rather than full removal, would
“present only
limited opportunities for synergies and therefore limited commercial
benefits to media owners”
and while being
“a helpful and
positive step”,
it
would
“not transform
the position of local media organisations.”
Ofcom’s
recommendations were also fully endorsed by the Culture, Media and
Sport Committee. In fact, its report, “Future for local and
regional media”, published last year, urged the Government go
further, because
“more far
reaching reform is
needed”.
We
agreed with the Committee’s findings, and last year asked Ofcom
to consider the case for full liberalisation of the local media
ownership
rules.
Jim
McGovern (Dundee West) (Lab):
The Minister has used the
word “liberalisation” a couple of times. Should he not
substitute “commercialisation”? Is that not what this is
about—making
money?
Mr
Vaizey:
With the greatest respect to the hon. Gentleman,
most local media organisations are in the business of making money,
whether they be a local newspaper or a local radio station, but thanks
to his Government’s initiative we now have a thriving community
not-for-profit radio sector as well, and in terms of local competition,
we also have the BBC local radio stations supported by the licence fee.
I am not quite sure that I grasp the idea that it is somehow wrong for
local news organisations to make money. If that is his point, I am
afraid I do not agree with
it.
Jim
McGovern:
Perhaps I can clarify the point. I am referring
to monopolies that would wish to control local radio and press for
commercial
purposes.
Mr
Vaizey:
As the last Government recognised, with respect to
Ofcom’s review of the local media rules, it is important to
deregulate to allow investment in local content. As the hon. Gentleman
knows, the competition rules and the public interest test remain in
place in case any consolidation somehow impinges on media
plurality.
As
I was saying before the hon. Gentleman intervened, Ofcom responded on
29 July 2010 in a detailed letter and in a report that is available on
its website. It noted the continued deterioration in revenues for local
media, as well as the initiative in local television, and concurred
that there was a case for the full liberalisation of the local media
ownership rules. The order will therefore remove all the local
cross-media ownership rules, which prevent the consolidation necessary
to secure local media
business.
Subject
to competition law, local newspapers, radio companies and the owners of
ITV licences could consolidate, reduce costs and build sustainable
business models. Such mergers can drive innovation and improve content
as businesses use multiple platforms to distribute local content, such
as news. Importantly, consolidation gives greater opportunity for local
media companies to build trusted local brands and relationships with
local
communities.
That
rationale equally applies to the decision to remove the overly complex
and unnecessary local radio media ownership rules, which is also
contained in the order. The so-called 2+1 rules, which were designed to
ensure at least two commercial radio operators and the BBC in most
markets, give no regard to the emerging digital radio markets or the
new tier of community radio. There are more than 300 commercial
stations in the UK and 200 community radio stations, and the BBC alone
provides more than 50 radio services, available
online and on digital television and radio. I welcome the note, which
hon. Members may have seen, from RadioCentre, which represents the
commercial radio market. It notes that the reform that we are debating
today will be a vital step in helping to safeguard the
industry’s
future.
We
believe that continuing to restrict ownership in small local discrete
radio markets fails to recognise the way listeners access radio and how
those businesses operate. The need to remove unnecessary regulations
governing the radio sector is therefore reflected in the final change
in the order: rather than protecting plurality, the existing rule
preventing ownership of more than one national multiplex is a potential
barrier to a second multiplex being
launched.
Taken
together, we believe that the order will provide a framework to promote
a sustainable model for local media and encourage greater investment
and innovation. I assure the Committee that I am satisfied that the
order is compatible with convention
rights.
4.41
pm
Gloria
De Piero (Ashfield) (Lab):
It is a pleasure to serve under
your chairmanship, Mr Crausby. We all know what huge challenges local
media of all kinds face in this new internet age. Every member of the
Committee—indeed, every Member of the House—knows just
how much local people value their local media and what an important
part they play in the democratic process. It is vital that all that can
be done is done to strengthen the commercial viability, and with it the
long-term future, of local media outlets. Therefore, the Opposition
support the order in principle, on the basis that the opportunity for
consolidation will offer real benefits to the regional media in the
face of the considerable pressures on their revenues from the weakness
of the economy and the move online of advertising
spend.
Furthermore,
as the very nature of the media continually evolves at enormous speed,
it is important that the rules on ownership allow greater flexibility.
Indeed, the growing diversity of alternative sources of local news and
entertainment—from video blogs to advertising-supported
community websites—will help to ensure that a range of voices
continues to be heard locally. However, we remain mindful of the
question of the concentration of media ownership and the possible
dangers of the narrowing of the range in ownership of local media, and
the Department and Ofcom will both need to monitor the effect of the
order
carefully.
This
liberalisation makes it more important than ever that the rest of
Government policy and Ofcom action take into account the public
interest and competition considerations of the range and quality of
local news and information. First, and perhaps most important, is the
regional presence of the BBC. The deal that the Minister’s
Department forced on the BBC last October, in a great hurry and with a
shocking lack of transparency, potentially provides a real threat to
the corporation’s regional presence. The worrying noises
emerging about the future of local radio could be just the beginning.
If the withdrawal of the restrictions on cross-media ownership locally
is to work, it is vital that the BBC continue to provide a serious
local service within the plurality of voices.
In addition,
the new rules will work only if Government policy, such as
the roll-out of superfast broadband, works to
support the ability of new and innovative players to provide services
of local information. The Secretary of State will also need to ensure
that he is prepared to intervene fully where it is clear that
cross-media mergers raise public interest considerations—not
least if they threaten sufficient plurality in a particular region.
That is my party’s bottom line. Plurality of local news
providers remains vital and we strongly believe that an
over-concentration of news and opinion in a local area would unduly
restrict local debate and accountability.
Stephen
Barclay (North East Cambridgeshire) (Con):
I agree with
the hon. Lady about the importance of regional BBC radio coverage. Is
it the Opposition’s view that the National Audit Office should
have full and unfettered access to the BBC in terms of its spending on
regional radio to ensure that best value is
secured?
Gloria
De Piero:
The Labour party supports any measure that
ensures that public money is guaranteed in the public
interest.
It would be
tragic at a time when more power is to be devolved locally—if we
are to take the Government’s word for that—were the
ability of the local media to hold decision makers to account to be
diminished in any way. We support the Government’s proposals in
the spirit of helping the local media industry to find a sufficient
commercial basis to continue strong local journalism.
I know that
the regional newspapers in particular have long campaigned for the
proposed changes as the commercial pressures on their members’
publications have increased. I am glad that they believe that
liberalising the ownership rules will make a material difference to the
ability of local papers and their associated websites to
survive.
We will also
be looking at the detail of the Government’s concept of local TV
to ensure that its roll-out adds to the plurality of voices that local
people can hear.
The
withdrawal of restrictions on local cross-media ownership only stresses
the imperative for the Government to get local TV right. Its successful
introduction would be a strong bulwark to maintain the plurality of
voices that we all want. I am therefore happy to offer my
party’s support for the order, but in doing so, I underline the
responsibilities of the Department and the industry to make it work. If
they do not, the consequence will be a dangerous diminution in what
local people are able to see, hear and read in the media, and none of
us wants
that.
What
reassurances can the Minister give the Committee that the settlement
imposed on the BBC in such a hurry does not run the risk of causing a
significant reduction in the BBC’s local services, particularly
in the English regions? In the light of recent events, the Committee
might be forgiven for a certain scepticism, so what assurances can he
give that the Secretary of State will be prepared to intervene when
there is a threat to the plurality of local media
voices?
4.46
pm
Bob
Russell:
My apologies, Mr. Crausby, but if the
Committee is still sitting at 10 past 5, I am booked to do a local
radio interview—on the BBC. I appreciate the
irony.
Just
under 50 years ago, the Essex County
Standard moved to new premises in Culver street in Colchester. It
had a room on the second floor at the back, where the local radio
station was based, because, as older Members will recall, Hughie Green
was running a national campaign for commercial radio stations.
Legislation prevented commercial radio at that time, and even if it had
been allowed, legislation would have prevented cross-media ownership.
In a way, we are debating something that was very much a live issue
almost half a century ago, but then local newspapers had virtually 100%
penetration in their communities, because they were part of the
community. That was localism.
Newsquest, an
American company, owns newspapers in this country, not because of its
love for the community, but rather to screw as much as it can out of
that community. Whereas newspapers once employed quite a number of
reporters and photographers, they now employ a bare minimum to satisfy
the American bosses. It is important to stress that because local
newspapers now have very low penetration—perhaps 30% to 40%, if
they are lucky.
Newsquest is
not exactly a good employer when it comes to employees’ rights
and salaries. I do not share the Minister’s enthusiasm for
Global Radio either, because whereas the Government are moving towards
localism, Global Radio is moving in the opposite direction. Until a few
months ago, Heart Radio had many radio stations around the country that
it has now shut. In the case of Heart Radio Colchester, the coverage
now comes out of Chelmsford, but Colchester and Chelmsford are not
exactly communities of joint interest, to put it kindly. Will the
Minister assure the Committee that where Global Radio has physically
vacated the community where it secured a radio licence—after
all, that is how it got the licence—that licence will be
available to others who will provide a radio station in that
community?
I
will obviously support the order because Her Majesty’s official
Opposition are going to support it and I will go along with it, but I
put it on the record that I am not an enthusiastic supporter of
American ownership of my local newspaper, nor of Global Radio, which
has shut down my local commercial radio
station.
4.49
pm
Mr
Vaizey:
I am grateful for the opportunity to respond to
the excellent contributions that we have heard. I acknowledge the
points made by the hon. Member for Ashfield. I hear what she says about
the BBC, but we will have to agree to differ about the merits of the
BBC licence fee settlement. Our view is that we concluded negotiations
quickly and effectively, that it is an excellent deal for the BBC, that
we are strong supporters of the BBC and that the settlement will give
the BBC a confident and energetic
future.
Mike
Gapes (Ilford South) (Lab/Co-op):
How much consultation
was there between DCMS Ministers, the BBC and the Foreign and
Commonwealth Office about the decision to dump the costs of the World
Service on to the BBC in three years’
time?
Mr
Vaizey:
As the hon. Gentleman knows, this is a joined-up
Government, so the FCO, the DCMS and the BBC conducted detailed
negotiations on all those
issues.
To
return to the order, I echo the hon. Member for Ashfield in saying that
it is vital that the BBC continue to provide local services. I have
noted with some interest newspaper reports that the BBC is planning to
divert some of its local coverage to Radio 5 Live. It is my instinct
that that is an editorial decision based on analysis of BBC local radio
station audiences, rather than one driven by economics, but as far as I
am aware, it is something the BBC is merely consulting on and there has
certainly not been any
decision.
I
also hear the hon. Lady’s point about the need to deliver
superfast broadband. We will debate broadband in Westminster Hall
tomorrow. Although she may disagree, the Government now have
well-worked-out plans to deliver the fastest superfast broadband in
Europe by the end of 2015. I acknowledge her point about the importance
of local television in delivering media plurality. As she knows, local
television is a key policy of the Secretary of State and we are
progressing that, with many expressions of interest lodged with the
Department since the launch of our consultation document.
I would like
to give my hon. Friend the Member for Colchester an award for
extraordinary political bravery, the like of which I have rarely seen.
He used the few minutes available to him to insult his local newspaper
and radio station. Knowing him as I do from my brief time in the House,
I suspect that he knows full well that he is a highly regarded, perhaps
even adored, local Member of Parliament who can afford to face down his
local media in such a fashion.
Bob
Russell:
I am grateful to the Minister. My attacks were on
the foreign owners of the newspaper and the absenteeism of the local
radio owners. Obviously, I have nothing but respect for the editorial
judgment and competence of those who run the local radio and newspaper
institutions. I question the localism of a local newspaper that is
American-owned.
Mr
Vaizey:
I acknowledge my hon. Friend’s point that
investment, albeit from a foreign owner, does not impinge on editorial
judgment or content. I am glad to put it on the record, with him, that
Newsquest does not seek to influence the editorial content of its local
newspapers. Global Radio is a UK company. It has not closed any of its
local services, but it has taken advantage of a new power to co-locate
radio stations. As I said in response to his earlier intervention, that
is because it can use new technology to slot in local content, even
though the presenter may not be based in
Colchester.
Bob
Russell:
I must persist, because I think that the Minister
has been duped by Global Radio. Three radio stations used to cover
Essex, one of which was called Heart Radio. Heart Radio does not exist
any more. Its frequency goes out of Chelmsford, but it does not have
the Colchester staff, the Colchester programmes or the Colchester
phone-in. It is now an Essex commercial radio station. There is nothing
wrong with that, but that is not the licence that it applied for and
was granted.
The
Chair:
Order. May I ask the Minister to confine his
remarks to the order, despite the temptation offered by the hon. Member
for Colchester?
Mr
Vaizey:
Thank you, Mr Crausby, for getting me back on
track. I shall resist the temptation to respond to my hon. Friend the
Member for Colchester. He is a Member whom I have long admired and I
found it difficult to resist when given the chance to reply to his
concerns.
To
the relief, perhaps, of other hon. Members, I shall conclude. I am
grateful to the hon. Member for Ashfield for supporting the order and I
thank hon. Members for their cogent and pertinent
interventions.
Question
put and agreed
to.
4.56
pm
Committee
rose.