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Volume No. 532 Part No. 198

House of Commons Debates 12 September 2011

house of commons

prayers

oral answers to questions

home department

police numbers

police panels

bogus colleges

student visas (english language teaching)

family migration

efficiency (police forces)

health and safety regulation (police)

immigration

antisocial behaviour

illegal immigrants (nhs treatment)

disorder (gangs)

terrorism

topical questions

independent banking commission report

points of order

Police reform and social responsibility Bill (programme) (No. 3)

police reform and social responsibility bill

business without debate

delegated legislation

swansea coastguard


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Column: 735

Column: 735

House of Commons [12 Sep 2011]

Prayers [12 Sep 2011]

[Mr Speaker ] [12 Sep 2011]

Oral Answers to Questions [12 Sep 2011]

Home Department [12 Sep 2011]

Police Numbers [12 Sep 2011]

Nick Smith (Blaenau Gwent) (Lab):

Rachel Reeves (Leeds West) (Lab):

The Secretary of State for the Home Department (Mrs Theresa May):

Nick Smith:

Mrs May:

Column: 736

Rachel Reeves:

Mrs May:

Mr David Ruffley (Bury St Edmunds) (Con):

Mrs May:

Mr Philip Hollobone (Kettering) (Con):

Mrs May:

Keith Vaz (Leicester East) (Lab):

Mrs May:

Column: 737

Yvette Cooper (Normanton, Pontefract and Castleford) (Lab):

Mrs May:

Yvette Cooper:

Column: 738

Mrs May:

Police Panels [12 Sep 2011]

George Eustice (Camborne and Redruth) (Con):

The Minister for Policing and Criminal Justice (Nick Herbert):

George Eustice:

Nick Herbert:

Mr Denis MacShane (Rotherham) (Lab):

Nick Herbert:

Column: 739

Bogus Colleges [12 Sep 2011]

David Morris (Morecambe and Lunesdale) (Con):

The Secretary of State for the Home Department (Mrs Theresa May):

David Morris:

Mrs May:

Mr Frank Roy (Motherwell and Wishaw) (Lab):

Mr Speaker:

Mrs May:

Tom Brake (Carshalton and Wallington) (LD):

Mrs May:

Student Visas (English Language Teaching) [12 Sep 2011]

Chi Onwurah (Newcastle upon Tyne Central) (Lab):

Column: 740

The Minister for Immigration (Damian Green):

Chi Onwurah:

Damian Green:

Family Migration [12 Sep 2011]

Jason McCartney (Colne Valley) (Con):

Graham Evans (Weaver Vale) (Con):

The Minister for Immigration (Damian Green):

Jason McCartney:

Column: 741

Damian Green:

Graham Evans:

Damian Green:

Fiona Mactaggart (Slough) (Lab):

Damian Green:

Lisa Nandy (Wigan) (Lab):

Damian Green:

Efficiency (Police Forces) [12 Sep 2011]

Stephen Barclay (North East Cambridgeshire) (Con):

Column: 742

The Minister for Policing and Criminal Justice (Nick Herbert):

Mr Speaker:

Nick Herbert:

Mr Geoffrey Cox (Torridge and West Devon) (Con):

Tony Baldry (Banbury) (Con):

Nick Herbert:

Stephen Barclay:

Nick Herbert:

Mr Cox:

Nick Herbert:

Column: 743

Tony Baldry:

Nick Herbert:

Mr David Hanson (Delyn) (Lab):

Nick Herbert:

Steve McCabe (Birmingham, Selly Oak) (Lab):

Nick Herbert:

Vernon Coaker (Gedling) (Lab):

Column: 744

Nick Herbert:

Health and Safety Regulation (Police) [12 Sep 2011]

Mark Lancaster (Milton Keynes North) (Con):

The Minister for Policing and Criminal Justice (Nick Herbert):

Mark Lancaster:

Nick Herbert:

Mr Barry Sheerman (Huddersfield) (Lab/Co-op):

Nick Herbert:

Column: 745

Immigration [12 Sep 2011]

Andrew Selous (South West Bedfordshire) (Con):

Matthew Hancock (West Suffolk) (Con):

The Minister for Immigration (Damian Green):

Andrew Selous:

Damian Green:

Matthew Hancock:

Damian Green:

Column: 746

Chris Bryant (Rhondda) (Lab):

Damian Green:

Shabana Mahmood (Birmingham, Ladywood) (Lab):

Damian Green:

Dr Julian Huppert (Cambridge) (LD):

Damian Green:

Column: 747

Antisocial Behaviour [12 Sep 2011]

Karen Lumley (Redditch) (Con):

The Parliamentary Under-Secretary of State for the Home Department (James Brokenshire):

Karen Lumley:

James Brokenshire:

Diana Johnson (Kingston upon Hull North) (Lab):

James Brokenshire:

Jack Lopresti (Filton and Bradley Stoke) (Con):

Column: 748

James Brokenshire:

Alun Michael (Cardiff South and Penarth) (Lab/Co-op):

James Brokenshire:

Illegal Immigrants (NHS Treatment) [12 Sep 2011]

Margot James (Stourbridge) (Con):

The Minister for Immigration (Damian Green):

Margot James:

Damian Green:

Disorder (Gangs) [12 Sep 2011]

Mr Chuka Umunna (Streatham) (Lab):

Column: 749

The Secretary of State for the Home Department (Mrs Theresa May):

Mr Umunna:

Mrs May:

Gavin Barwell (Croydon Central) (Con):

Mrs May:

Terrorism [12 Sep 2011]

Henry Smith (Crawley) (Con):

The Secretary of State for the Home Department (Mrs Theresa May):

Column: 750

Henry Smith:

Mrs May:

Topical Questions [12 Sep 2011]

Stephen Phillips (Sleaford and North Hykeham) (Con):

The Secretary of State for the Home Department (Mrs Theresa May):

Stephen Phillips:

Mrs May:

Clive Efford (Eltham) (Lab):

Column: 751

Mrs May:

Tony Baldry (Banbury) (Con):

The Parliamentary Under-Secretary of State for the Home Department (Lynne Featherstone):

John Mann (Bassetlaw) (Lab):

The Minister for Policing and Criminal Justice (Nick Herbert):

Mr Stewart Jackson (Peterborough) (Con):

Column: 752

Mrs May:

Alun Michael (Cardiff South and Penarth) (Lab/Co-op):

Mrs May:

Nicky Morgan (Loughborough) (Con):

Nick Herbert:

Derek Twigg (Halton) (Lab):

Nick Herbert:

Column: 753

Alok Sharma (Reading West) (Con):

Mrs May:

Andrew Gwynne (Denton and Reddish) (Lab):

Mrs May:

Richard Fuller (Bedford) (Con):

The Minister for Immigration (Damian Green):

Mr Speaker:

Ms Karen Buck (Westminster North) (Lab):

Column: 754

Nick Herbert:

Sheryll Murray (South East Cornwall) (Con):

Nick Herbert:

Gloria De Piero (Ashfield) (Lab):

Nick Herbert:

Bob Russell (Colchester) (LD):

Mrs May:

Chris Ruane (Vale of Clwyd) (Lab):

Nick Herbert:

Column: 755

Robert Halfon (Harlow) (Con):

Mrs May:

Hazel Blears (Salford and Eccles) (Lab):

Mrs May:

Andrew Selous (South West Bedfordshire) (Con):

Column: 756

Damian Green:

Naomi Long (Belfast East) (Alliance):

Damian Green:

Tom Brake (Carshalton and Wallington) (LD):

Nick Herbert:

Julie Hilling (Bolton West) (Lab):

Mrs May:

Column: 757

Independent Banking Commission Report [12 Sep 2011]

3.35 pm

The Chancellor of the Exchequer (Mr George Osborne):

Column: 758

Let me set out the commission’s recommendations and how we propose to respond. The first proposal is the introduction of a ring fence around retail banking.The Government have welcomed, and welcome, this recommendation in principle. As the report states,
In other words, that is the provision of key domestic retail banking services, such as taking deposits from individuals and small businesses or providing them with overdrafts. The central benefit of a ring fence is not to end large universal banking groups, but to make them more easily resolvable in a crisis.

Column: 759

Column: 760


Ed Balls (Morley and Outwood) (Lab/Co-op):

Column: 761


Column: 762

Mr Osborne:

Chris Leslie (Nottingham East) (Lab/Co-op):

Mr Osborne:

Column: 763


Sir Peter Tapsell (Louth and Horncastle) (Con):

Mr Osborne:

Chris Ruane (Vale of Clwyd) (Lab):

Mr Osborne:

Column: 764

Mr Alistair Darling (Edinburgh South West) (Lab):

Mr Osborne:

Column: 765


Mr Andrew Tyrie (Chichester) (Con):

Mr Osborne:

Mr Michael Meacher (Oldham West and Royton) (Lab):

Column: 766

Mr Osborne:

Several hon. Members

Mr Speaker:

Stephen Williams (Bristol West) (LD):

Mr Osborne:

Tom Greatrex (Rutherglen and Hamilton West) (Lab/Co-op):

Column: 767

Mr Osborne:

Mr Edward Leigh (Gainsborough) (Con):

Mr Osborne:

Stewart Hosie (Dundee East) (SNP):

Column: 768

Mr Osborne:

Michael Fallon (Sevenoaks) (Con):

Mr Osborne:

Mr Nicholas Brown (Newcastle upon Tyne East) (Lab):

Mr Osborne:

Geraint Davies (Swansea West) (Lab/Co-op):

Mr Osborne:

Column: 769

Andrea Leadsom (South Northamptonshire) (Con):

Mr Osborne:

Mr George Mudie (Leeds East) (Lab):

Mr Osborne:

Steve Baker (Wycombe) (Con):

Mr Osborne:

Column: 770

Derek Twigg (Halton) (Lab):

Mr Osborne:

Lorely Burt (Solihull) (LD):

Mr Osborne:

Mr Chuka Umunna (Streatham) (Lab):

Column: 771

Mr Osborne:

Mr Bernard Jenkin (Harwich and North Essex) (Con):

Mr Osborne:

Barry Gardiner (Brent North) (Lab):

Mr Osborne:

Column: 772

Sajid Javid (Bromsgrove) (Con):

Mr Osborne:

Chris Ruane:

Mr Osborne:

Sir Stuart Bell (Middlesbrough) (Lab):

Mr

Claire Perry (Devizes) (Con):

Column: 773

Mr Osborne:

Tom Blenkinsop (Middlesbrough South and East Cleveland) (Lab):

Mr Osborne:

Nadhim Zahawi (Stratford-on-Avon) (Con):

Mr Osborne:

Mr Andrew Love (Edmonton) (Lab/Co-op):

Mr Osborne:

Matthew Hancock (West Suffolk) (Con):

Column: 774

Mr Osborne:

Ian Murray (Edinburgh South) (Lab):

Mr Osborne:

Mr Robert Buckland (South Swindon) (Con):

Mr Osborne:

Mr Barry Sheerman (Huddersfield) (Lab/Co-op):

Mr Osborne:

Column: 775

Chris Ruane (Vale of Clwyd) (Lab):

Mr Osborne:

Jeremy Lefroy (Stafford) (Con):

Mr Osborne:

Sheila Gilmore (Edinburgh East) (Lab):

Mr Osborne:

Margot James (Stourbridge) (Con):

Mr Osborne:

Column: 776

Geraint Davies (Swansea West) (Lab/Co-op):

Mr Osborne:

Jesse Norman (Hereford and South Herefordshire) (Con):

Mr Osborne:

Mr William Bain (Glasgow North East) (Lab):

Column: 777

Mr Osborne:

Naomi Long (Belfast East) (Alliance):

Mr Osborne:

Mr Speaker:

Column: 778

Points of Order [12 Sep 2011]

4.43 pm

John Healey (Wentworth and Dearne) (Lab):

Mr Speaker:

The Leader of the House of Commons (Sir George Young)

Mr Speaker:

Naomi Long (Belfast East) (Alliance):

Column: 779


Mr Speaker:

Chris Bryant (Rhondda) (Lab):

Mr Speaker:

Police reform and social responsibility Bill (programme) (No. 3)

Column: 780

Police Reform and Social Responsibility Bill [12 Sep 2011]

4.49 pm

The Minister for Policing and Criminal Justice (Nick Herbert):

Mr Speaker:

Nick Herbert:

Column: 781

Chris Bryant (Rhondda) (Lab):

Nick Herbert:

Chris Bryant:

Nick Herbert:

Alun Michael (Cardiff South and Penarth) (Lab/Co-op):

Column: 782

Nick Herbert:

Mark Tami (Alyn and Deeside) (Lab):

Nick Herbert:

Column: 783

Keith Vaz (Leicester East) (Lab):

Nick Herbert:

5 pm

Column: 784

Chris Bryant:

Nick Herbert:

Keith Vaz:

Nick Herbert:

Keith Vaz:

Nick Herbert:

Mark Tami:

Nick Herbert:

Column: 785

Vernon Coaker (Gedling) (Lab):

Nick Herbert:

Chris Bryant:

Nick Herbert:

Chris Bryant

Nick Herbert:

Column: 786


Keith Vaz:

Nick Herbert:

Column: 787


Mark Tami

Nick Herbert:

Mark Tami:

Nick Herbert:

Column: 788


5.15 pm

Chris Bryant

Nick Herbert:

Chris Bryant:

Nick Herbert:

Chris Bryant:

Column: 789

Nick Herbert:

Simon Hart (Carmarthen West and South Pembrokeshire) (Con):

Nick Herbert:

Column: 790

Vernon Coaker:

Column: 791


Mr Aidan Burley (Cannock Chase) (Con):

Vernon Coaker:

Mr Burley

Vernon Coaker:

Column: 792


Mr Burley:

Vernon Coaker:

Mike Crockart (Edinburgh West) (LD):

Vernon Coaker:

5.30 pm

Mr Burley:

Vernon Coaker:

Column: 793

Mark Tami:

Vernon Coaker:

Mr Burley:

Column: 794

Vernon Coaker:

Mr Burley:

Vernon Coaker:

Mark Tami:

Vernon Coaker:

Alun Michael:

Vernon Coaker:

Column: 795


Keith Vaz:

Vernon Coaker:

Mr Deputy Speaker (Mr Lindsay Hoyle):

Vernon Coaker:

The Secretary of State for the Home Department (Mrs Theresa May):

Alun Michael:

Mr Deputy Speaker:

Vernon Coaker:

Column: 796


Mr David Ruffley (Bury St Edmunds) (Con):

5.45 pm

Vernon Coaker:

Simon Hart:

Column: 797

Vernon Coaker:

Steve McCabe (Birmingham, Selly Oak) (Lab):

Vernon Coaker:

Column: 798


Steve McCabe:

Vernon Coaker:

Column: 799


Mr Ruffley:

6 pm

Column: 800

Vernon Coaker:

Mr Ruffley:

Steve McCabe:

Mr Ruffley:

Steve McCabe:

Column: 801

Mr Ruffley:

Graham Stringer (Blackley and Broughton) (Lab):

Column: 802

Mr Ruffley:

Vernon Coaker:

Column: 803

Mr Ruffley:

6.15 pm

Column: 804

Column: 805

Simon Hart:

Mr Ruffley:

Keith Vaz:

Column: 806


6.30 pm

Nick Herbert:

Keith Vaz:

Steve McCabe:

Column: 807

Keith Vaz:

Simon Hart:

Column: 808

Column: 809


Vernon Coaker:

Simon Hart:

Column: 810


6.45 pm

Mark Tami:

Simon Hart:

Column: 811


Mark Tami:

Simon Hart:

Column: 812


Jack Dromey (Birmingham, Erdington) (Lab):

Column: 813

7 pm

Martin Vickers (Cleethorpes) (Con):

Column: 814


Column: 815


Paul Murphy (Torfaen) (Lab):

Column: 816


Roger Williams (Brecon and Radnorshire) (LD):

7.15 pm

Paul Murphy:

Column: 817


Mr Burley:

Column: 818

Several hon. Members

Mr Burley:

Owen Smith (Pontypridd) (Lab):

Graham Stringer:

Mr Burley:

Paul Murphy:

Mr Burley:

Column: 819

Caroline Dinenage (Gosport) (Con):

Mr Burley:

Nigel Mills (Amber Valley) (Con):

Mr Burley:

Column: 820

Vernon Coaker:

Mr Burley:

Column: 821

7.30 pm

Mr David Ward (Bradford East) (LD):

Mr Burley:

Vernon Coaker:

Mr Burley:

Mr Ward:

Mr Burley:

Column: 822


Joan Walley (Stoke-on-Trent North) (Lab):

Mr Burley:

Column: 823


Mr Deputy Speaker (Mr Nigel Evans):

Mr Burley:

Graham Stringer:

Column: 824


Column: 825

7.45 pm

Guto Bebb (Aberconwy) (Con):

Graham Stringer:

Column: 826


Nick Herbert:

Stephen Pound (Ealing North) (Lab):

Nick Herbert:

Stephen Pound:

Nick Herbert:

Stephen Pound:

Nick Herbert:

Column: 827

Vernon Coaker:

Nick Herbert:

Column: 828


Mark Tami:

Nick Herbert:

Division No. 345 [ Police Reform and Social Responsibility Bill]

Column: 831

[12 Sep 2011]

8.16 pm

Division No. 346 [ Police Reform and Social Responsibility Bill]

Column: 835

[12 Sep 2011]

8.30 pm

Nick Herbert:

Mr Deputy Speaker (Mr Nigel Evans):

Column: 837

Nick Herbert:

Column: 838


Column: 839


Column: 840


8.45 pm

Column: 841

Sarah Newton (Truro and Falmouth) (Con):

Nick Herbert:

Column: 842

Vernon Coaker:

Column: 843


9 pm

Column: 844


Mike Crockart:

Column: 845

Column: 846


Vernon Coaker:

Mike Crockart:

Column: 847

9.15 pm

Vernon Coaker:

Mike Crockart:

Dan Rogerson (North Cornwall) (LD):

Column: 848


Nick Herbert:

Dan Rogerson:

Column: 849

Sarah Newton:

Dan Rogerson:

Column: 850


Mark Reckless (Rochester and Strood) (Con):

9.30 pm

Column: 851


Column: 852


Column: 853


Nick Herbert:

Vernon Coaker:

Nick Herbert:

Vernon Coaker:

Nick Herbert:

Column: 854

Mark Reckless:

Nick Herbert:

9.45 pm

Column: 855

Mark Reckless:

Nick Herbert:

Column: 856

Division No. 347 [ Police Reform and Social Responsibility Bill] [12 Sep 2011]

10.10 pm

Column: 860

Business without Debate [12 Sep 2011]

delegated legislation [12 Sep 2011]

petitionSpring Gardens Care Home

10.12 pm

Greg Mulholland (Leeds North West) (LD)

Mr Speaker:

Greg Mulholland:

Column: 861

Swansea Coastguard [12 Sep 2011]

10.14 pm

Martin Caton (Gower) (Lab):

Nia Griffith (Llanelli) (Lab):

Martin Caton:

Column: 862


Column: 863

Geraint Davies (Swansea West) (Lab/Co-op):

Martin Caton:

Column: 864


Mrs Siân C. James (Swansea East) (Lab):

Martin Caton:

10.25 pm

The Parliamentary Under-Secretary of State for Transport (Mike Penning):

Column: 865


Tessa Munt (Wells) (LD):

Mike Penning:

Column: 866


Martin Caton:

Mike Penning:

Mrs Madeleine Moon (Bridgend) (Lab):

Mike Penning:

Column: 867


Mrs Moon:

Mike Penning:

Jonathan Edwards (Carmarthen East and Dinefwr) (PC)

Mike Penning:

Martin Caton

Mike Penning:

Martin Caton:

Mike Penning

Mr Speaker:

Column: 868

Mike Penning:

Geraint Davies:

Mike Penning:

Column: 869

Jonathan Edwards

Mike Penning:

Several hon. Members

Mike Penning:

Martin Caton:

Column: 870

Mike Penning:

Martin Caton

Mike Penning:

10.44 pm