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Volume No. 534 Part No. 218

House of Commons Debates 2 November 2011

house of commons

prayers

business before questions

london local authorities bill

oral answers to questions

cabinet office

community projects

voluntary sector

open government partnership

trade union facility time

third sector contracts

social enterprise

head of the civil service

topical questions

prime minister

engagements

public service pensions

point of order

devolved administrations (armed forces covenant reports)

legal aid, sentencing and punishment of offenders bill

business without debate

delegated legislation

business of the house

university technical colleges


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Volume No. 534 Part No. 218

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Column: 905

Column: 905

House of Commons [2 Nov 2011]

Prayers [2 Nov 2011]

[Mr Speaker] [2 Nov 2011]

business before questions [2 Nov 2011]

London Local Authorities Bill [] [2 Nov 2011]

Oral Answers to Questions [2 Nov 2011]

Cabinet Office [2 Nov 2011]

Community Projects [2 Nov 2011]

Stephen Metcalfe (South Basildon and East Thurrock) (Con):

The Parliamentary Secretary, Cabinet Office (Mr Nick Hurd):

Stephen Metcalfe:

Mr Hurd:

Mrs Madeleine Moon (Bridgend) (Lab):

Column: 906

Mr Hurd:

Mr Mark Williams (Ceredigion) (LD):

Mr Hurd:

Voluntary Sector [2 Nov 2011]

Tony Lloyd (Manchester Central) (Lab):

Mr Russell Brown (Dumfries and Galloway) (Lab):

The Parliamentary Secretary, Cabinet Office (Mr Nick Hurd):

Tony Lloyd:

Mr Hurd:

Column: 907

Mr Brown:

Mr Hurd:

Mrs Eleanor Laing (Epping Forest) (Con):

Mr Hurd:

Mr Peter Bone (Wellingborough) (Con):

Mr Hurd:

Mr Gareth Thomas (Harrow West) (Lab/Co-op):

Mr Hurd:

Column: 908

Open Government Partnership [2 Nov 2011]

Mr James Clappison (Hertsmere) (Con):

The Minister for the Cabinet Office and Paymaster General (Mr Francis Maude):

Mr Clappison:

Mr Maude:

Mr Denis MacShane (Rotherham) (Lab):

Mr Maude:

Charlie Elphicke (Dover) (Con):

Mr Maude:

Column: 909

Jon Trickett (Hemsworth) (Lab):

Mr Maude:

Trade Union Facility Time [2 Nov 2011]

Karl McCartney (Lincoln) (Con):

The Minister for the Cabinet Office and Paymaster General (Mr Francis Maude):

Karl McCartney:

Mr Speaker:

Karl McCartney:

Column: 910

Mr Maude:

Mr Gerry Sutcliffe (Bradford South) (Lab):

Mr Maude:

Third Sector Contracts [2 Nov 2011]

Jonathan Ashworth (Leicester South) (Lab):

The Minister of State, Cabinet Office (Mr Oliver Letwin):

Jonathan Ashworth:

Mr Letwin:

Mr James Gray (North Wiltshire) (Con):

Column: 911

Mr Letwin:

Social Enterprise [2 Nov 2011]

Julie Elliott (Sunderland Central) (Lab):

The Minister of State, Cabinet Office (Mr Oliver Letwin):

Julie Elliott:

Mr Letwin:

Mr Speaker:

Dr Julian Huppert (Cambridge) (LD):

Column: 912

Mr Letwin:

Head of the Civil Service [2 Nov 2011]

Mr Bernard Jenkin (Harwich and North Essex) (Con):

The Minister for the Cabinet Office and Paymaster General (Mr Francis Maude):

Mr Speaker:

Mr Jenkin:

Mr Maude:

Mark Durkan (Foyle) (SDLP):

Mr Maude:

Topical Questions [2 Nov 2011]

Katy Clark (North Ayrshire and Arran) (Lab):

The Minister for the Cabinet Office and Paymaster General (Mr Francis Maude):

Column: 913

Katy Clark:

Mr Maude:

Mr Speaker:

Stephen Mosley (City of Chester) (Con):

Mr Maude:

Michael Dugher (Barnsley East) (Lab):

Mr Maude:

Henry Smith (Crawley) (Con):

Mr Maude:

Column: 914

Bill Esterson (Sefton Central) (Lab):

The Minister of State, Cabinet Office (Mr Oliver Letwin):

Jake Berry (Rossendale and Darwen) (Con):

Mr Maude:

Stephen Timms (East Ham) (Lab):

Mr Maude:

Jason McCartney (Colne Valley) (Con):

The Parliamentary Secretary, Cabinet Office (Mr Nick Hurd):

Column: 915

Prime Minister [2 Nov 2011]

Engagements [2 Nov 2011]

Mr Marcus Jones (Nuneaton) (Con):

The Prime Minister (Mr David Cameron):

Mr Jones:

The Prime Minister:

Edward Miliband (Doncaster North) (Lab):

The Prime Minister:

Edward Miliband:

Column: 916

The Prime Minister:

Edward Miliband:

The Prime Minister:

Mr Speaker:

The Prime Minister:

Edward Miliband:

Column: 917

The Prime Minister:

Edward Miliband:

The Prime Minister:

Edward Miliband:

The Prime Minister:

Column: 918

Jason McCartney (Colne Valley) (Con):

The Prime Minister:

Mr Nigel Dodds (Belfast North) (DUP):

The Prime Minister:

Alun Cairns (Vale of Glamorgan) (Con):

The Prime Minister:

Column: 919

Susan Elan Jones (Clwyd South) (Lab):

The Prime Minister:

Mr David Evennett (Bexleyheath and Crayford) (Con):

The Prime Minister:

Mr Alistair Darling (Edinburgh South West) (Lab):

Column: 920

The Prime Minister:

Mr Philip Hollobone (Kettering) (Con):

The Prime Minister:

Alex Cunningham (Stockton North) (Lab):

The Prime Minister:

Mike Crockart (Edinburgh West) (LD):

Column: 921

The Prime Minister:

Dr Alan Whitehead (Southampton, Test) (Lab):

The Prime Minister:

Jonathan Evans (Cardiff North) (Con):

Mr Speaker:

The Prime Minister:

Katy Clark (North Ayrshire and Arran) (Lab):

The Prime Minister:

Column: 922

Simon Hughes (Bermondsey and Old Southwark) (LD):

The Prime Minister:

Mr David Lammy (Tottenham) (Lab):

Mr Speaker:

Mr Lammy:

The Prime Minister:

Mr Graham Stuart (Beverley and Holderness) (Con):

The Prime Minister:

Gregg McClymont (Cumbernauld, Kilsyth and Kirkintilloch East) (Lab):

Column: 923

The Prime Minister:

Jessica Lee (Erewash) (Con):

The Prime Minister:

Thomas Docherty (Dunfermline and West Fife) (Lab):

The Prime Minister:

Guy Opperman (Hexham) (Con):

Column: 924

The Prime Minister:

Mr Speaker:

Caroline Lucas (Brighton, Pavilion) (Green):

The Prime Minister:

Tim Farron (Westmorland and Lonsdale) (LD):

The Prime Minister:

Mr Clive Betts (Sheffield South East) (Lab):

Column: 925

The Prime Minister:

Sir Peter Tapsell (Louth and Horncastle) (Con):

Column: 926

The Prime Minister:

Mr Speaker:

Column: 927

Public Service Pensions [2 Nov 2011]

12.34 pm

The Chief Secretary to the Treasury (Danny Alexander):

Column: 928


Column: 929


Column: 930

Rachel Reeves (Leeds West) (Lab):

Column: 931


Danny Alexander:

Column: 932


Mr Speaker:

Danny Alexander:

Harriett Baldwin (West Worcestershire) (Con):

Danny Alexander:

Column: 933

Dame Anne Begg (Aberdeen South) (Lab):

Danny Alexander:

Dr Phillip Lee (Bracknell) (Con):

Danny Alexander:

Helen Goodman (Bishop Auckland) (Lab):

Danny Alexander:

Stephen Williams (Bristol West) (LD):

Column: 934

Danny Alexander:

John McDonnell (Hayes and Harlington) (Lab):

Danny Alexander:

Heather Wheeler (South Derbyshire) (Con):

Danny Alexander:

John Cryer (Leyton and Wanstead) (Lab):

Column: 935

Danny Alexander:

Mr Bernard Jenkin (Harwich and North Essex) (Con):

Danny Alexander:

Geraint Davies (Swansea West) (Lab/Co-op):

Mr Speaker:

Danny Alexander:

Column: 936

Mrs Anne Main (St Albans) (Con):

Danny Alexander:

Tony Lloyd (Manchester Central) (Lab):

Danny Alexander:

George Freeman (Mid Norfolk) (Con):

Mr Speaker:

Danny Alexander:

Mr Nigel Dodds (Belfast North) (DUP):

Column: 937

Danny Alexander:

Jenny Willott (Cardiff Central) (LD):

Danny Alexander:

Nic Dakin (Scunthorpe) (Lab):

Danny Alexander:

Margot James (Stourbridge) (Con):

Danny Alexander:

Column: 938

Gordon Banks (Ochil and South Perthshire) (Lab):

Danny Alexander:

Sarah Newton (Truro and Falmouth) (Con):

Danny Alexander:

Pat Glass (North West Durham) (Lab):

Danny Alexander:

Guto Bebb (Aberconwy) (Con):

Column: 939

Danny Alexander:

Derek Twigg (Halton) (Lab):

Danny Alexander:

Jo Swinson (East Dunbartonshire) (LD):

Danny Alexander:

Fiona Mactaggart (Slough) (Lab):

Column: 940

Danny Alexander:

Andrew Percy (Brigg and Goole) (Con):

Danny Alexander:

Mr Andrew Love (Edmonton) (Lab/Co-op):

Danny Alexander:

Column: 941

Geoffrey Clifton-Brown (The Cotswolds) (Con):

Danny Alexander:

Lilian Greenwood (Nottingham South) (Lab):

Danny Alexander:

David Rutley (Macclesfield) (Con):

Danny Alexander:

Diana Johnson (Kingston upon Hull North) (Lab):

Danny Alexander:

Gavin Williamson (South Staffordshire) (Con):

Column: 942

Danny Alexander:

Kevin Brennan (Cardiff West) (Lab):

Danny Alexander:

Mr Dominic Raab (Esher and Walton) (Con):

Mr Speaker:

Mark Durkan (Foyle) (SDLP):

Danny Alexander:

Martin Horwood (Cheltenham) (LD):

Danny Alexander:

Column: 943

Katy Clark (North Ayrshire and Arran) (Lab):

Danny Alexander:

Richard Graham (Gloucester) (Con):

Danny Alexander:

Julie Elliott (Sunderland Central) (Lab):

Column: 944

Danny Alexander:

Jane Ellison (Battersea) (Con):

Danny Alexander:

Christopher Pincher (Tamworth) (Con):

Danny Alexander:

Mr Clive Betts (Sheffield South East) (Lab):

Danny Alexander:

Andrew Bridgen (North West Leicestershire) (Con):

Danny Alexander:

Column: 945

Stephen Lloyd (Eastbourne) (LD):

Danny Alexander:

Mr Peter Bone (Wellingborough) (Con):

Danny Alexander:

Mr Speaker:

Stephen Mosley (City of Chester) (Con):

Column: 946

Danny Alexander:

Charlie Elphicke (Dover) (Con):

Danny Alexander:

Mr Philip Hollobone (Kettering) (Con):

Danny Alexander:

Mr Speaker:

Column: 947

Point of Order [2 Nov 2011]

1.34 pm

Derek Twigg (Halton) (Lab):

Mr Speaker:

Derek Twigg:

Mr Speaker:

Derek Twigg:

Mr Speaker:

Column: 948

Devolved Administrations (Armed Forces Covenant Reports) [2 Nov 2011]

1.36 pm

Mr Jeffrey M. Donaldson (Lagan Valley) (DUP):

Column: 949

Column: 950


Column: 951

Legal Aid, Sentencing and Punishment of Offenders Bill [2 Nov 2011]

1.47 pm

The Parliamentary Under-Secretary of State for Justice (Mr Jonathan Djanogly):

Mr Deputy Speaker (Mr Lindsay Hoyle):

Column: 952

Column: 953

Mr Djanogly:

Mr Deputy Speaker (Mr Lindsay Hoyle):

Mr Djanogly:

Column: 954


Column: 955


Mr Andy Slaughter (Hammersmith) (Lab):

Column: 956


2 pm

Mr Djanogly:

Column: 957

Mr Slaughter:

Mr Djanogly:

Mr Slaughter:

Column: 958


Sir Alan Beith (Berwick-upon-Tweed) (LD):

Mr Slaughter:

Column: 959


Column: 960


Column: 961

2.15 pm

Mike Crockart (Edinburgh West) (LD):

Column: 962


Yvonne Fovargue (Makerfield) (Lab):

Column: 963


Column: 964

2.30 pm

Column: 965


Tom Brake (Carshalton and Wallington) (LD):

Karl Turner (Kingston upon Hull East) (Lab):

Tom Brake:

Karl Turner

Tom Brake:

Column: 966

Lyn Brown (West Ham) (Lab):

Tom Brake:

Elizabeth Truss (South West Norfolk) (Con):

Tom Brake:

Elizabeth Truss:

Tom Brake:

Column: 967


Sir Alan Beith:

Tom Brake:

Mr Slaughter:

Tom Brake:

Karl Turner:

Column: 968

Tom Brake:

Karl Turner:

Mr Deputy Speaker (Mr Nigel Evans):

Tom Brake:

Alison Seabeck (Plymouth, Moor View) (Lab):

Tom Brake:

2.45 pm

Column: 969

Mr Elfyn Llwyd (Dwyfor Meirionnydd) (PC):

Mr Slaughter:

Mr Llwyd:

Column: 970

Keith Vaz (Leicester East) (Lab):

Mr Llwyd:

Jeremy Corbyn (Islington North) (Lab):

Mr Llwyd:

Column: 971

Jeremy Corbyn:

Mr Llwyd:

Stephen Lloyd (Eastbourne) (LD):

Column: 972


Kate Green (Stretford and Urmston) (Lab):

Stephen Lloyd:

3 pm

Valerie Vaz (Walsall South) (Lab):

Column: 973

Keith Vaz:

Valerie Vaz:

Column: 974

Mr David Ward (Bradford East) (LD):

Column: 975


Yvonne Fovargue:

Mr Ward:

Jeremy Corbyn:

Column: 976

3.15 pm

Mr Ward:

Lyn Brown:

Mr Ward:

Karl Turner:

Mr Ward:

Karl Turner:

Mr Ward:

Karl Turner

Mr Ward:

Karl Turner

Mr Ward:

Karl Turner:

Mr Ward:

Column: 977

Mr Deputy Speaker (Mr Nigel Evans):

Mr Ward:

Karl Turner:

Column: 978


Column: 979

Mr David Burrowes (Enfield, Southgate) (Con):

Karl Turner:

Several hon. Members

Karl Turner:

3.30 pm

Column: 980


Ben Gummer (Ipswich) (Con):

Karl Turner:

Column: 981


Ben Gummer:

Mr Burrowes:

Ben Gummer:

Lyn Brown:

Column: 982

Ben Gummer:

Mr Llwyd:

Ben Gummer:

Several hon. Members

Ben Gummer:

Mr Slaughter

Ben Gummer:

Mr Slaughter:

Column: 983

Ben Gummer:

3.45 pm

Sadiq Khan (Tooting) (Lab):

Ben Gummer:

Karl Turner:

Mr Deputy Speaker (Mr Nigel Evans):

Ben Gummer:

Column: 984

Jonathan Edwards (Carmarthen East and Dinefwr) (PC):

Simon Hughes (Bermondsey and Old Southwark) (LD):

Column: 985


Stephen Lloyd:

Simon Hughes:

Column: 986


Tom Brake:

Simon Hughes:

4 pm

Sir Alan Beith:

Column: 987

Simon Hughes:

Glenda Jackson (Hampstead and Kilburn) (Lab):

Simon Hughes:

Glenda Jackson:

Simon Hughes:

Column: 988


Yvonne Fovargue:

Column: 989

Simon Hughes:

Joan Ruddock (Lewisham, Deptford) (Lab):

Column: 990


Simon Hughes:

Joan Ruddock:

Jim Shannon (Strangford) (DUP):

Joan Ruddock:

Column: 991

Glenda Jackson:

Joan Ruddock:

4.15 pm

Karl Turner:

Mr Deputy Speaker (Mr Nigel Evans):

Joan Ruddock:

Column: 992


Simon Reevell (Dewsbury) (Con):

Karl Turner:

Simon Reevell:

Column: 993


Mr Robert Buckland (South Swindon) (Con):

Simon Reevell:

Jeremy Corbyn:

Column: 994


Column: 995


Stephen Lloyd:

Jeremy Corbyn:

4.30 pm

Column: 996


Yasmin Qureshi (Bolton South East) (Lab):

Column: 997


Column: 998

Mr Ward:

Yasmin Qureshi:

Kate Green:

Column: 999

4.45 pm

Several hon. Members

Mr Deputy Speaker (Mr Nigel Evans):

Mrs Jenny Chapman (Darlington) (Lab):

Column: 1000


Column: 1001

Ian Mearns (Gateshead) (Lab):

Mrs Chapman:

Mr Djanogly:

Column: 1002


Mr Llwyd:

Mr Djanogly:

Mr Llwyd

Mr Djanogly:

Mr Llwyd:

Mr Djanogly:

Mr Deputy Speaker (Mr Nigel Evans):

Mr Djanogly:

Column: 1003

5 pm

Column: 1004


Column: 1005


Column: 1006

Karl Turner:

Column: 1007

Mr Deputy Speaker (Mr Lindsay Hoyle):

Division No. 387 [Legal Aid, Sentencing and Punishment of Offenders Bill] [2 Nov 2011]

Column: 1012

Column: 1013

Column: 1014

Division No. 388 [Legal Aid, Sentencing and Punishment of Offenders Bill] [2 Nov 2011]

Column: 1019

Column: 1020

Mr Slaughter:

Mr Deputy Speaker (Mr Lindsay Hoyle):

Column: 1021

Mr Slaughter:

Column: 1022

The Lord Chancellor and Secretary of State for Justice (Mr Kenneth Clarke):

Mr Slaughter:

Mr Clarke:

Mr Slaughter:

Column: 1023

Chris Bryant (Rhondda) (Lab):

Mr Slaughter:

5.45 pm

Column: 1024

Mr Ben Wallace (Wyre and Preston North) (Con):

Column: 1025

Chris Bryant:

Mr Wallace:

Mr Deputy Speaker (Mr Lindsay Hoyle):

Mr Slaughter:

Mr Deputy Speaker:

Mr Slaughter:

Mr Djanogly:

Column: 1026


Chris Bryant:

Mr Djanogly:

Lisa Nandy (Wigan) (Lab):

Mr Djanogly:

Column: 1027


Mr Jack Straw (Blackburn) (Lab):

Mr Djanogly:

Lisa Nandy:

Mr Djanogly:

Lisa Nandy:

Mr Djanogly:

Column: 1028

6 pm

Division No. 389 [Legal Aid, Sentencing and Punishment of Offenders Bill] [2 Nov 2011]

Column: 1033

Division No. 390 [Legal Aid, Sentencing and Punishment of Offenders Bill] [2 Nov 2011]

Column: 1037

Column: 1038

Column: 1039

Column: 1040

Column: 1041

Column: 1042

6.25 pm

Mr Kenneth Clarke:

Column: 1043


Amber Rudd (Hastings and Rye) (Con):

Mr Clarke:

Column: 1044

Helen Goodman (Bishop Auckland) (Lab):

Mr Clarke:

Mr Tom Clarke (Coatbridge, Chryston and Bellshill) (Lab):

Mr Clarke:

Column: 1045


Mr Geoffrey Cox (Torridge and West Devon) (Con):

Mr Clarke:

Mr Tom Clarke:

Mr Speaker:

Mr Tom Clarke

Mr Speaker:

Mr Tom Clarke:

Mr Speaker:

Mr Kenneth Clarke:

Mr Tom Clarke

Mr Clarke:

Mr Tom Clarke:

Column: 1046

Mr Clarke:

Nick de Bois (Enfield North) (Con)

Mr Clarke:

Nick de Bois:

Mr Clarke:

Several hon. Members

Mr Clarke:

Column: 1047

Column: 1048


6.44 pm

Sadiq Khan (Tooting) (Lab):

Mr Llwyd:

Sadiq Khan:

Mr Kenneth Clarke:

Column: 1049

Sadiq Khan:

Ms Karen Buck (Westminster North) (Lab):

Sadiq Khan:

Column: 1050

6.52 pm

Mr Burrowes:

Column: 1051


Karl Turner:

Mr Burrowes:

Column: 1052


6.57 pm

Chris Bryant:

Tom Brake:

Chris Bryant:

Division No. 391 [Legal Aid, Sentencing and Punishment of Offenders Bill] [2 Nov 2011]

Business without Debate [2 Nov 2011]

Delegated Legislation [2 Nov 2011]

Mr Speaker:

Column: 1057

Business of the House [2 Nov 2011]

Column: 1058

University Technical Colleges [2 Nov 2011]

7.13 pm

Robert Halfon (Harlow) (Con):

Mark Reckless (Rochester and Strood) (Con):

Mr Speaker:

Robert Halfon:

Column: 1059


Column: 1060

Jim Shannon (Strangford) (DUP):

Robert Halfon:

Jonathan Lord (Woking) (Con):

Robert Halfon:

Column: 1061


7.30 pm

Mr Rob Wilson (Reading East) (Con):

Column: 1063


7.34 pm

The Minister of State, Department for Education (Mr Nick Gibb):

Column: 1064


Column: 1065

Column: 1066


7.43 pm