Parliamentary Voting System and Constituencies Bill - Political and Constitutional Reform Committee Contents


Written evidence submitted by Nicola Prigg (PVSCB 15)

SUMMARY

  The main points I would like to make to the Committee are:

    — Referendum should ask whether we want a change in the electoral system. — First-Past-the-Post leaves voters disenfranchised.

    — FPTP leaves people wondering how to vote and therefore there's an argument to directly elect the Prime Minister.

    — First-Past-the-Post isn't the best system for throwing a government out.

    — FPTP has led to a political environment where you can "win" in a democracy.

    — AV is better than FPTP but still undemocratic.

    — STV empowers the electorate.

    — Putting in law what democratically valid means in reference to constitutional change, questions the validity of past changes to the constitution.

    — Thresholds aren't the right way to go about making a referendum democratically valid. Parliament doesn't have thresholds neither should referendums.

    — Equal-sized constituencies are good but it's easier to achieve with multi-member constituencies.

    — Number of MPs

    — Secretary of State for the home nations should be a member of parliament from the largest party of that home nation.

    — Nash's equilibrium with respect to the Union. The debate about the state of the union in the UK and the state of the European Union are the same at different points in the scale.

  1.  To really get a feeling of whether the electorate want a change to the electoral system, there should be a referendum first on whether the electorate want electoral reform instead of offering a change to a system chosen by politicians. I am of the opinion that if there is a "No" vote in the AV referendum without asking the electorate whether they want a change, the two main parties will use the referendum to say the electorate don't want change when that wasn't the question put to them. I believe by asking the electorate whether they want change can then open up a proper debate on what that system should be. If the electorate want change, then we can use an STV referendum to decide what the system should be.

  2.  FPTP is an archaic system. I didn't vote in the last election mainly because in my constituency, there is no point in voting unless you vote for the clear winner. It leaves me as a young voter thinking my vote doesn't count, my MP doesn't care about representing me because she doesn't need my vote to get elected. FPTP doesn't lead to a parliament that accurately represents the electorate's views. In the 2010 election, the two main parties managed to achieve 65.2% of the vote yet they have 87% of the seats in parliament. That leaves 22% of the voters ignored. That doesn't include the third of the electorate that didn't vote. We need to empower people to vote and to take an interest in politics. The way to do that is to have a proportional system of some kind so that no matter where you live you have the ability to elect someone with your views, who has a character that you like and will campaign to help deliver real change and give you a voice in parliament.

  3.  The single member system of FPTP that has been in use for the last 50 years leaves many people on election day wondering how to vote. Many people feel on election day that they have to contort their views to fit one box. If we leave out policy for a minute and look at what else people are voting for, they are voting for a candidate, a party and a prime minister. The views on who my MP should be, what party I want to support and who I want to be prime minister can vary from the party line. I personally don't like my MP and I know others who don't and I wouldn't vote for my MP regardless of party. Yet if I want to support my MPs party, then I'm stuck with an MP who I dislike. Not only am I voting for a party but I am also voting for the person who I want to see lead the country. There are some candidates for that job who I would for regardless of party or I would vote against regardless of party. That's why I believe that we should directly elect the Prime Minister.

  4.  One of my main problems with the electoral system in this country is that we are supposed to vote for a candidate to represent our community but it has become about who the leader is and who we want the government to be. Government is a by-product of people voting for more candidates that represent a particular party than any other political party. Just changing the electoral system whether to AV, STV or any other proportional system won't change that without fundamental restructuring of our electoral system. No system will let us throw a government out if the government is just a by-product.

  5.  Following the recent election coverage, I got the impression that the parties weren't about changing the country for the better, they weren't for democracy, they were for "winning". I seriously dislike this terminology because if we focus on winning and losing an election or power, then we lose what democracy is all about. Democracy is about making your voice heard. I know of a party that calls themselves democrats but they don't care about democracy because they can't win power in a democracy, they can't win an election with democracy. In my opinion, it is FPTP that creates this terminology. FPTP has created a democratic party that can't stand democracy. Since 1918, there has only been two elections in 1931 and 1935 where a party achieved more than 50% of the vote and therefore deserved a parliamentary majority and even then because of the turnout rates they still didn't actually manage to achieve 50% support of the electorate. Only an unfair, undemocratic system such as FPTP would allow 21.6% of the electorate (35.3% of the vote) to rule over 78.4% of the electorate (64.7% of the vote). That is not democracy.

  6.  AV is slightly better but it is still in my mind undemocratic. It is better because it is a preferential system but it is still undemocratic because it is not proportional and therefore cannot accurately represent the views of the electorate. With AV at least 49% of the voters are left ignored, perhaps more depending on turnout. AV is majoritarian and therefore I feel undemocratic because it allows a minority to rule over a majority, a majority that is divided but still a majority. I personally feel that any such system is a dictatorship. As with FPTP, AV only really allows you to hold the party to account and not the candidate. Whilst you can more easily vote against a party or candidate by not ranking the candidate. If you still want the party and not the candidate, you still can't vote for that with AV.

  7.  Open list STV is the best system in my view because you get a choice of candidates and so don't have to follow the party line and they can make the candidate as well as the party accountable. Also if like many people your views don't fit into one box then you can vote for candidates from multiple parties and you have more of a chance of getting someone elected. That empowers the electorate—it gives them a voice. STV is also the best system when it comes to not wasting votes, if you have a four member constituency then you only waste 20% of votes or a three member constituency only wastes 25% of votes. This is so much better as it gives more power to the people as it actually uses their vote and makes their voice heard. It strengthens the MP-constituency link because they have an MP they voted for, whose values they share and who they like as people. It strengthens democracy because people feel their vote counts. The amount of people who I have met in Scotland who say they only felt their vote mattered when they voted in the Scottish elections with the Additional Member System (AMS). Whilst I like AMS's proportionality, the FPTP segment still wastes votes and while that part of the vote is strictly for a candidate, I still feel party politics still comes into it. AMS also has a purely party politic aspect in it that I do like because then I can vote on values, what I dislike about it is that it's a closed list and therefore I could let in an extremist candidate of the party with which I share my values.

  8.  I have watched the two Committee meetings so far and have noticed that Mrs Eleanor Laing MP has brought up in both meetings the issue about thresholds and validity. I agree full heartedly that any change to the constitution should be democratically valid. I see the benefits of a threshold in making sure a referendum to a change in the constitution is valid, although whether a change in the electoral system is a constitutional change is up for debate because we don't have a written constitution. I agree with the experts and the Rt Hon Nick Clegg MP that a threshold will put the power into the hands of the "No" campaign because any non-vote is a "No" vote, whereas in a normal election, a non-vote is not a "No" vote to the candidates and the parties which they represent. I also believe that actually putting in law what makes a constitutional change valid is potentially dangerous as we don't have a written constitution. If you say in law that in order to be democratically valid a constitutional change needs even a referendum then surely you invalidate past constitutional changes. Whilst invalidating some maybe welcome for example in relation to giving powers away to Brussels in the Lisbon treaty, others are not so welcome for example invalidating the Act of Union 1707 and Laws in Wales Acts 1535-42. By invalidating these Acts then the unions between the nations never happened therefore Scotland and Wales are independent. Whilst it is possible to say that this democratic validity test is only valid from 2010, you then create the impression that you know there are parts of the constitution that are democratically invalid but you don't want to validate them or you don't believe that you can validate them ie you don't believe they can pass a referendum. By allowing a simple majority whether in referendum or in parliament to be democratically valid then the constitution remains valid. I would agree with the consensus that a referendum with a simple majority is democratically valid. Would I agree that a referendum with a simple majority in which only 15% of the electorate voted in was democratically valid, no I wouldn't. Would I be willing to have a threshold in order to make sure that a reasonable amount of people voted for it, no I wouldn't. That is because it puts power into one side of the campaign and therefore makes the balance of power unequal and is therefore democratically invalid. Parliamentary votes don't have thresholds so why should a referendum? The parliamentary vote in the Act of Union in 1707 was so poorly attended I believe that had there been a threshold within parliament, the union would never have happened. Even in recent parliaments, I've heard voting sessions have been sometimes so poorly attended that were there thresholds within parliaments some bills would not be passed.

  9.  Equal sized constituencies is important for democracy but will be very difficult to achieve with single member constituencies. There are already two exceptions and possibly a third if the boundary commission can't change Charles Kennedy's MP constituency in order to achieve the average constituency elector size within the geographical limit. With Shetland and Orkney, and Western Isles, there is a case as I understand it that if they were to be joined with the mainland then MPs will be asking for helicopters just to move around their constituency. Whilst I agree that their vote shouldn't count more, surely there is a difficulty in transportation when you start combining those constituencies with the mainland. This is partly why I feel multi-member constituencies are a must because it would alleviate this problem. For example with STV, you could have a 3 member constituency so Shetland and Orkney joined with a large part of the mainland and the people of Shetland and Orkney can still vote for a candidate that is local to them.

  10.  A big problem with boundary reviews and elector sizes is that there are students who won't actually know where they will be living in five years time and there will be young kids who are not yet on the electoral register but will be old enough to vote in the next election, some of these kids will be at university at the next election and there is a question of where should they vote ie in their home constituency, where there base is or where there studying (considering that the next election is being proposed to happen around exam time)? Voting for a specific candidate is very hard when you know your local MP is going to change within a few years because you're constantly moving around the country.

  11.  Number of MPs matters because the more MPs, the more views you can represent, the problem with having too many MPs is that all the vested self-interests then block each other and therefore can't actually hold the executive to account properly. What the optimum amount is, I don't know but 600 is probably a good start.

  12.  I believe that the Secretary of State for the home nations should be a MP from the largest party in that country. I believe that the SNP are growing ever larger because the English keep alienating the Scots along with the rest of the UK. The English effectively say out of ignorance that Britain stops at the English border. That says that only the English are British. Britain is supposed to be a tolerant country that can integrate other cultures yet after over 300 years of union there is still England, Scotland and Wales and Northern Ireland. I believe that by making the secretary of State of a home nation a MP from the largest party in that nation, we respect that nations decision on who the government should be and how the government should be formed. Any Scot can still say that Thatcher didn't have the right or the mandate to sell of the BNOC. I personally hate that I can say this but the BNOC was only British on the tin, it was North Sea Oil and therefore Scottish and seeing as Thatcher did not have a mandate over Scotland because Scotland voted Labour therefore Thatcher had no right to sell that company. Having the Secretary of State for the home nations be a member of the largest party in that country would go someway to alleviate the lack of a mandate in those countries.

  13.  My idea of how the union should be governed comes from John Nash and his equilibrium. John Nash states that in order to do what is best for the individual, you have to do what is best for the group. This should not only be our economic model but also our governing model for the union. The problem with this is that England is more populated and so their interests are always going to come before the interests of the rest of the union because there are more of them in England and therefore have more democratic sway. There is even a problem within England because there is this North/South divide and the South's interests will always trump the North because the South is more populated and that will always be the case because there are more job opportunities in the South and so anyone in the rest of the Union has to move down South. We need a system of governance that allows no area of the country's interests to dominate the rest, which unfortunately means that democracy doesn't work. The majority of the country lives in South Britain and therefore to give the other areas of the country and give their interests a voice then their vote has to count more. If you look at the electoral map of Scotland from the most recent election, you'll see a country divided. You'll see the south west and central belt where essentially the majority of people live in Scotland is almost solid red of Labour and anything north of the central belt is Liberal Democrat or SNP and the two remaining constituencies in the south are Liberal Democrat and Conservative. I'm from part of that red bit and I think it is deeply unfair that my interests, my issues count more because I'm in the majority. I have the same problem when it comes to Britain as a whole but then I'm in the minority and England is the majority. Scotland, I believe doesn't have an effective say in UK issues especially the economy which is so important to Scotland seeing as we have always been the poorest nation in the UK. I understand that Scotland has 9.07% representation in parliament and 8.5% of the population so I understand England's point that it is roughly democratic. My problem with England's point is that when England becomes part of the minority ie within the EU, the English can't seem to accept that the rest of Europe is bigger and we live in a democracy so they deserve to have more power over Britain. The debate about the EU's power over UK and England's power over the rest of the UK is the same and should have the same solution.

26 July 2010





 
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