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House of Commons Debates 3 July 2012

house of commons

prayers

business before questions

oral answers to questions

justice

prisoners (training and education)

european court of human rights

intelligence services (court proceedings)

police and crime commissioners (women’s services)

imprisonment for public protection

probation system

fines (collection)

young offenders

magistracy

bailiff services

legal advice/welfare reform

office of the information commissioner

community payback

riots communities and victims panel

topical questions

business of the house

honours (equality of titles for partners)

finance bill

business without debate

delegated legislation

european union documents

violence against health workers

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Column: 737

Column: 737

House of Commons [3 Jul 2012]

Prayers [3 Jul 2012]

[Mr Speaker] [3 Jul 2012]

Business before Questions [3 Jul 2012]

Hon. Members:

Hon. Members:

Hon. Members:

Hon. Members:

Hon. Members:

Column: 738

Hon. Members:

Oral Answers to Questions [3 Jul 2012]

Justice [3 Jul 2012]

Prisoners (Training and Education) [3 Jul 2012]

Peter Aldous (Waveney) (Con):

Paul Maynard (Blackpool North and Cleveleys) (Con):

The Parliamentary Under-Secretary of State for Justice (Mr Crispin Blunt):

Peter Aldous:

Mr Blunt:

Column: 739

Paul Maynard:

Mr Blunt:

Lindsay Roy (Glenrothes) (Lab):

Mr Blunt:

Tony Lloyd (Manchester Central) (Lab):

Mr Blunt:

Column: 740

European Court of Human Rights [3 Jul 2012]

Mr David Ruffley (Bury St Edmunds) (Con):

The Lord Chancellor and Secretary of State for Justice (Mr Kenneth Clarke):

Mr Ruffley:

Mr Clarke:

Dr William McCrea (South Antrim) (DUP):

Mr Clarke:

Column: 741

Mr Christopher Chope (Christchurch) (Con):

Mr Clarke:

Sadiq Khan (Tooting) (Lab):

Mr Clarke:

Intelligence Services (Court Proceedings) [3 Jul 2012]

Rebecca Harris (Castle Point) (Con):

The Lord Chancellor and Secretary of State for Justice (Mr Kenneth Clarke):

Rebecca Harris:

Column: 742

Mr Clarke:

Paul Goggins (Wythenshawe and Sale East) (Lab):

Mr Clarke:

Police and Crime Commissioners (Women’s Services) [3 Jul 2012]

Bridget Phillipson (Houghton and Sunderland South) (Lab):

The Minister for Policing and Criminal Justice (Nick Herbert):

Bridget Phillipson:

Nick Herbert:

Column: 743

Tom Brake (Carshalton and Wallington) (LD):

Nick Herbert:

Jenny Chapman (Darlington) (Lab):

Nick Herbert:

Mrs Helen Grant (Maidstone and The Weald) (Con):

Nick Herbert:

Column: 744

Imprisonment for Public Protection [3 Jul 2012]

Tom Blenkinsop (Middlesbrough South and East Cleveland) (Lab):

The Parliamentary Under-Secretary of State for Justice (Mr Crispin Blunt):

Tom Blenkinsop:

Mr Blunt:

Sir Alan Beith (Berwick-upon-Tweed) (LD):

Mr Blunt:

Mr Andy Slaughter (Hammersmith) (Lab):

Mr Blunt:

Column: 745

Andrew Bridgen (North West Leicestershire) (Con):

Mr Blunt:

Mr Speaker:

Mr Blunt:

Probation System [3 Jul 2012]

Luciana Berger (Liverpool, Wavertree) (Lab/Co-op):

The Lord Chancellor and Secretary of State for Justice (Mr Kenneth Clarke):

Luciana Berger:

Mr Clarke:

Column: 746

Philip Davies (Shipley) (Con):

Mr Clarke:

Mr Speaker:

Mr Elfyn Llwyd (Dwyfor Meirionnydd) (PC):

Mr Clarke:

Fines (Collection) [3 Jul 2012]

Tristram Hunt (Stoke-on-Trent Central) (Lab):

The Parliamentary Under-Secretary of State for Justice (Mr Jonathan Djanogly):

Column: 747

Tristram Hunt:

Mr Djanogly:

Mr David Burrowes (Enfield, Southgate) (Con):

Mr Djanogly:

Young Offenders [3 Jul 2012]

Steve Brine (Winchester) (Con):

Eric Ollerenshaw (Lancaster and Fleetwood) (Con):

Stephen Mosley (City of Chester) (Con):

The Parliamentary Under-Secretary of State for Justice (Mr Crispin Blunt):

Steve Brine:

Column: 748

Mr Blunt:

Eric Ollerenshaw:

Mr Blunt:

Stephen Mosley (City of Chester) (Con):

Mr Blunt:

John Healey (Wentworth and Dearne) (Lab):

Mr Blunt:

Keith Vaz (Leicester East) (Lab):

Column: 749

Mr Blunt:

Mr Speaker:

Bill Esterson (Sefton Central) (Lab):

Mr Blunt:

Magistracy [3 Jul 2012]

Jesse Norman (Hereford and South Herefordshire) (Con):

The Minister for Policing and Criminal Justice (Nick Herbert):

Jesse Norman:

Nick Herbert:

Mr Barry Sheerman (Huddersfield) (Lab/Co-op):

Column: 750

Nick Herbert:

Bailiff Services [3 Jul 2012]

Mr Nick Raynsford (Greenwich and Woolwich) (Lab):

The Parliamentary Under-Secretary of State for Justice (Mr Jonathan Djanogly):

Mr Raynsford:

Mr Djanogly:

Duncan Hames (Chippenham) (LD):

Mr Djanogly:

Robert Flello (Stoke-on-Trent South) (Lab):

Column: 751

Mr Djanogly:

Legal Advice/Welfare Reform [3 Jul 2012]

Stephen Timms (East Ham) (Lab):

The Parliamentary Under-Secretary of State for Justice (Mr Jonathan Djanogly):

Stephen Timms:

Mr Djanogly:

Office of the Information Commissioner [3 Jul 2012]

Robert Halfon (Harlow) (Con):

The Parliamentary Under-Secretary of State for Justice (Mr Jonathan Djanogly):

Robert Halfon:

Column: 752

Mr Djanogly:

Community Payback [3 Jul 2012]

Mark Pawsey (Rugby) (Con):

The Parliamentary Under-Secretary of State for Justice (Mr Crispin Blunt):

Mark Pawsey:

Mr Blunt:

Mr Speaker:

Riots Communities and Victims Panel [3 Jul 2012]

Simon Hughes (Bermondsey and Old Southwark) (LD):

The Minister for Policing and Criminal Justice (Nick Herbert):

Simon Hughes:

Column: 753

Nick Herbert:

Topical Questions [3 Jul 2012]

Mr David Ruffley (Bury St Edmunds) (Con):

The Lord Chancellor and Secretary of State for Justice (Mr Kenneth Clarke):

Mr Ruffley:

Mr Clarke:

Sadiq Khan (Tooting) (Lab):

Column: 754

Mr Clarke:

Sadiq Khan:

Mr Clarke:

Andrew Jones (Harrogate and Knaresborough) (Con):

The Parliamentary Under-Secretary of State for Justice (Mr Crispin Blunt):

Dan Jarvis (Barnsley Central) (Lab):

The Parliamentary Under-Secretary of State for Justice (Mr Jonathan Djanogly):

Column: 755

Mr Philip Hollobone (Kettering) (Con):

The Minister for Policing and Criminal Justice (Nick Herbert):

Sheila Gilmore (Edinburgh East) (Lab):

Mr Djanogly:

Bob Blackman (Harrow East) (Con):

Mr Kenneth Clarke:

Shabana Mahmood (Birmingham, Ladywood) (Lab):

Mr Blunt:

Column: 756

David Mowat (Warrington South) (Con):

Mr Djanogly:

Caroline Lucas (Brighton, Pavilion) (Green):

Nick Herbert:

Mr David Davis (Haltemprice and Howden) (Con):

Mr Kenneth Clarke:

Yasmin Qureshi (Bolton South East) (Lab):

Column: 757

Mr Clarke:

Greg Mulholland (Leeds North West) (LD):

Mr Clarke:

Hazel Blears (Salford and Eccles) (Lab):

Mr Blunt:

Mr Robert Buckland (South Swindon) (Con):

Mr Kenneth Clarke:

Alison Seabeck (Plymouth, Moor View) (Lab):

Mr Djanogly:

Column: 758

Anna Soubry (Broxtowe) (Con):

Mr Speaker:

Mr Kenneth Clarke:

Ann Coffey (Stockport) (Lab):

Mr Djanogly:

Tessa Munt (Wells) (LD):

Mr Speaker:

Mr Blunt:

Column: 759

Tom Greatrex (Rutherglen and Hamilton West) (Lab/Co-op):

Column: 760

Mr Djanogly:

Column: 761

Business of the House [3 Jul 2012]

3.34 pm

The Leader of the House of Commons (Sir George Young):

Ms Angela Eagle (Wallasey) (Lab):

Sir George Young:

Several hon. Members

Mr Speaker:

Mr John Redwood (Wokingham) (Con):

Sir George Young:

Hugh Bayley (York Central) (Lab):

Sir George Young:

Column: 762

Mr Bernard Jenkin (Harwich and North Essex) (Con):

Sir George Young:

Natascha Engel (North East Derbyshire) (Lab):

Sir George Young:

Mr Peter Bone (Wellingborough) (Con):

Sir George Young:

Column: 763

Chris Bryant (Rhondda) (Lab):

Sir George Young:

John Healey (Wentworth and Dearne) (Lab):

Sir George Young:

Kelvin Hopkins (Luton North) (Lab):

Column: 764

Sir George Young:

John McDonnell (Hayes and Harlington) (Lab):

Sir George Young:

Wayne David (Caerphilly) (Lab):

Sir George Young:

Mark Durkan (Foyle) (SDLP):

Sir George Young:

Column: 765

Honours (Equality of Titles for Partners) [3 Jul 2012]

3.45 pm

Oliver Colvile (Plymouth, Sutton and Devonport) (Con):

Column: 766

3.50 pm

Chris Bryant (Rhondda) (Lab):

Column: 767

Column: 768

Column: 769

Finance Bill [3 Jul 2012]

3.59 pm

The Exchequer Secretary to the Treasury (Mr David Gauke):

Mr Speaker:

Column: 770

Mr Gauke:

Column: 771

Column: 772

Nigel Mills (Amber Valley) (Con):

Mr Gauke:

Diana Johnson (Kingston upon Hull North) (Lab):

Column: 773

Mr Gauke:

Mr Speaker:

Mr Gauke:

4.15 pm

Column: 774

Column: 775

Nigel Mills:

Mr Gauke:

Stephen Gilbert (St Austell and Newquay) (LD):

Mr Gauke:

Catherine McKinnell (Newcastle upon Tyne North) (Lab):

Mr Gauke:

Column: 776

Diana Johnson:

Mr Gauke:

Diana Johnson:

Mr Gauke:

Column: 777

4.30 pm

Catherine McKinnell:

Mr Gauke:

Andrew Percy (Brigg and Goole) (Con):

Mr Gauke:

Column: 778

Diana Johnson:

Mr Gauke:

Simon Hart (Carmarthen West and South Pembrokeshire) (Con):

Mr Gauke:

Column: 779

Catherine McKinnell:

Mr Gauke:

Column: 780

Catherine McKinnell:

Mr Gauke:

Catherine McKinnell:

4.45 pm

Mr Gauke:

Jim Shannon (Strangford) (DUP):

Column: 781

Mr Gauke:

Mark Lazarowicz (Edinburgh North and Leith) (Lab/Co-op):

Mr Gauke:

Mr Frank Field (Birkenhead) (Lab):

Mr Gauke:

Column: 782

Nigel Mills:

Mr Gauke:

Cathy Jamieson (Kilmarnock and Loudoun) (Lab/Co-op):

Column: 783

Mr Gauke:

Catherine McKinnell:

Mr Gauke:

Catherine McKinnell:

Mr Gauke:

Catherine McKinnell

Mr Gauke:

Catherine McKinnell:

Column: 784

Mr Gauke:

Julie Hilling (Bolton West) (Lab):

Mr Gauke:

5 pm

Mr Speaker:

Catherine McKinnell:

Column: 785

Jonathan Edwards (Carmarthen East and Dinefwr) (PC):

Catherine McKinnell:

Jonathan Edwards:

Catherine McKinnell:

Mr Gauke:

Column: 786

Catherine McKinnell:

Mr Gauke:

Catherine McKinnell:

Gavin Williamson (South Staffordshire) (Con):

Catherine McKinnell:

Stephen Gilbert:

Catherine McKinnell:

Andrew Percy:

Catherine McKinnell:

Julie Hilling:

Column: 787

Catherine McKinnell:

Diana Johnson:

Catherine McKinnell:

Nigel Mills:

5.15 pm

Catherine McKinnell:

Column: 788

Stephen Gilbert:

Catherine McKinnell:

Column: 789

Column: 790

Mr Graham Stuart (Beverley and Holderness) (Con)

Catherine McKinnell:

Mr Stuart:

Catherine McKinnell:

Diana Johnson

Brandon Lewis (Great Yarmouth) (Con)

Catherine McKinnell:

Diana Johnson:

Column: 791

Catherine McKinnell:

Brandon Lewis:

Catherine McKinnell:

Sheila Gilmore (Edinburgh East) (Lab):

Catherine McKinnell:

Julie Hilling:

Column: 792

5.30 pm

Catherine McKinnell:

Column: 793

Column: 794

Steve Rotheram (Liverpool, Walton) (Lab):

Catherine McKinnell:

Jake Berry (Rossendale and Darwen) (Con):

Catherine McKinnell:

Stephen Gilbert:

Column: 795

Catherine McKinnell:

Mr Gauke:

Catherine McKinnell:

John Mann (Bassetlaw) (Lab):

5.45 pm

Catherine McKinnell:

Dan Byles (North Warwickshire) (Con):

Catherine McKinnell:

Andrew Percy:

Catherine McKinnell:

Column: 796

Sheila Gilmore:

Catherine McKinnell:

John Mann:

Catherine McKinnell:

Sarah Newton (Truro and Falmouth) (Con):

Column: 797

Julie Hilling:

Sarah Newton:

Mr Graham Stuart:

Sarah Newton:

Column: 798

Sheila Gilmore:

Sarah Newton:

Column: 799

6 pm

Jake Berry:

Sarah Newton:

John Mann:

Column: 800

Sarah Newton:

Mr Frank Field:

Column: 801

Bob Stewart (Beckenham) (Con):

Mr Field:

Andrew Percy:

Column: 802

6.15 pm

Mr Graham Stuart

Andrew Percy:

Column: 803

Mr Stuart:

Andrew Percy:

Julie Hilling:

Andrew Percy:

Diana Johnson:

Column: 804

Dan Byles:

Diana Johnson:

Column: 805

Column: 806

Mr Graham Stuart:

Diana Johnson:

6.30 pm

Mr Stuart

Diana Johnson:

Mr Stuart:

Column: 807

Diana Johnson:

Stephen Gilbert:

Column: 808

Column: 809

Bob Stewart:

Stephen Gilbert:

Sheila Gilmore:

Column: 810

Roberta Blackman-Woods (City of Durham) (Lab):

6.45 pm

Sheila Gilmore:

Diana Johnson:

Sheila Gilmore:

Julie Hilling:

Column: 811

Sheila Gilmore:

Roberta Blackman-Woods:

Sheila Gilmore:

Roberta Blackman-Woods:

Column: 812

Sheila Gilmore:

Roberta Blackman-Woods:

Sheila Gilmore:

Nigel Mills:

Column: 813

Charlie Elphicke (Dover) (Con):

Nigel Mills:

7 pm

Column: 814

Diana Johnson:

Nigel Mills:

Column: 815

Several hon. Members

Mr Deputy Speaker (Mr Lindsay Hoyle):

Julie Hilling:

Bob Stewart:

Julie Hilling:

Column: 816

Jim Shannon:

Julie Hilling:

Column: 817

Mr Gauke

Julie Hilling:

Column: 818

7.15 pm

Charlie Elphicke:

Column: 819

Mr Gauke:

Column: 820

Catherine McKinnell:

Mr Gauke:

Catherine McKinnell:

Mr Gauke:

Column: 821

Sheila Gilmore:

Mr Gauke:

Catherine McKinnell

Mr Gauke:

Catherine McKinnell:

Mr Gauke:

7.30 pm

Column: 822

Column: 827

Column: 828

Column: 829

Column: 830

Catherine McKinnell:

Gavin Williamson:

Catherine McKinnell:

The Financial Secretary to the Treasury (Mr Mark Hoban):

Catherine McKinnell:

Column: 835

Gavin Williamson

8 pm

Catherine McKinnell:

Gavin Williamson:

Catherine McKinnell:

Mark Lazarowicz:

Catherine McKinnell:

Charlie Elphicke:

Madam Deputy Speaker (Dawn Primarolo):

Catherine McKinnell

Grahame M. Morris (Easington) (Lab)

Column: 836

Catherine McKinnell:

Grahame M. Morris:

Catherine McKinnell:

Bill Esterson (Sefton Central) (Lab):

Catherine McKinnell:

Gavin Williamson:

Column: 837

Catherine McKinnell:

Bob Stewart:

Catherine McKinnell:

Column: 838

Alison McGovern (Wirral South) (Lab):

Column: 839

8.15 pm

Catherine McKinnell:

Bill Esterson:

Catherine McKinnell:

Mark Lazarowicz:

Column: 840

Catherine McKinnell:

Charlie Elphicke:

Catherine McKinnell:

Charlie Elphicke:

Catherine McKinnell:

Charlie Elphicke:

Column: 841

Grahame M. Morris:

Charlie Elphicke:

Grahame M. Morris:

Charlie Elphicke:

Mark Lazarowicz

Charlie Elphicke:

Catherine McKinnell:

Column: 842

Charlie Elphicke:

Mark Lazarowicz:

Charlie Elphicke:

Bill Esterson:

Charlie Elphicke:

Grahame M. Morris:

Column: 843

Charlie Elphicke:

8.30 pm

Bill Esterson:

Charlie Elphicke:

Column: 844

Bill Esterson:

Charlie Elphicke:

Grahame M. Morris:

Charlie Elphicke:

Catherine McKinnell:

Charlie Elphicke:

Column: 845

Bill Esterson

Charlie Elphicke:

Madam Deputy Speaker (Dawn Primarolo):

Charlie Elphicke:

Catherine McKinnell:

Madam Deputy Speaker:

Catherine McKinnell:

Column: 846

Madam Deputy Speaker:

Charlie Elphicke:

Ian Lavery (Wansbeck) (Lab):

Column: 847

8.45 pm

Column: 848

Graeme Morrice (Livingston) (Lab):

Madam Deputy Speaker (Dawn Primarolo):

Column: 849

Graeme Morrice:

Bill Esterson:

Graeme Morrice:

Mark Lazarowicz:

Graeme Morrice:

Bob Stewart:

Graeme Morrice:

Column: 850

9 pm

Charlie Elphicke:

Graeme Morrice:

Column: 851

Bill Esterson:

Graeme Morrice:

Rushanara Ali (Bethnal Green and Bow) (Lab):

Column: 852

Column: 853

Mark Lazarowicz:

Rushanara Ali:

Bob Stewart:

Rushanara Ali:

Bob Stewart:

Rushanara Ali:

Column: 854

Mel Stride (Central Devon) (Con):

Rushanara Ali:

Mel Stride

Madam Deputy Speaker (Dawn Primarolo):

Rushanara Ali:

Madam Deputy Speaker:

Mel Stride:

Rushanara Ali:

Gordon Birtwistle (Burnley) (LD)

Rushanara Ali:

Column: 855

Gordon Birtwistle:

Rushanara Ali:

Mark Durkan (Foyle) (SDLP):

Rushanara Ali:

Alison McGovern:

Column: 856

Bill Esterson:

Alison McGovern:

Mel Stride:

Alison McGovern:

Column: 857

Mr James Gray (North Wiltshire) (Con):

Alison McGovern:

Column: 858

9.30 pm

Madam Deputy Speaker (Dawn Primarolo):

Grahame M. Morris:

Madam Deputy Speaker:

Grahame M. Morris:

Column: 859

Richard Fuller (Bedford) (Con):

Grahame M. Morris:

Mark Lazarowicz:

Column: 860

Mr Hoban:

Column: 861

Bill Esterson:

Mr Hoban:

Mark Lazarowicz

Mr Hoban:

Mark Lazarowicz:

Mr Hoban:

Column: 862

Mark Durkan:

Mr Hoban:

9.45 pm

Mr Ronnie Campbell (Blyth Valley) (Lab)

Mr Hoban:

Mr Campbell:

Mr Hoban:

John Hemming (Birmingham, Yardley) (LD)

Mr Hoban:

John Hemming:

Mr Hoban:

Column: 863

Column: 864

Charlie Elphicke:

Mr Hoban:

Catherine McKinnell:

Column: 865

Charlie Elphicke

Catherine McKinnell:

Charlie Elphicke:

Catherine McKinnell:

Mr David Evennett (Bexleyheath and Crayford) (Con):

Catherine McKinnell:

Column: 866

Column: 871

Column: 872

10.14 pm

Mr Gauke:

Mr Deputy Speaker (Mr Nigel Evans):

Column: 873

Mr Gauke:

Mr Alan Reid (Argyll and Bute) (LD):

Mr Gauke:

Column: 874

Sheila Gilmore

Mr Gauke:

Sheila Gilmore:

Mr Gauke:

Column: 875

Fiona O'Donnell (East Lothian) (Lab)

Mr Gauke:

Fiona O'Donnell:

Mr Gauke:

10.25 pm

Rachel Reeves (Leeds West) (Lab):

Column: 876

Mr Reid:

Rachel Reeves:

Column: 877

Mr Edward Leigh (Gainsborough) (Con):

Rachel Reeves:

Jacob Rees-Mogg (North East Somerset) (Con):

Rachel Reeves:

Column: 878

10.35 pm

Stephen Williams (Bristol West) (LD):

Fiona O'Donnell:

Stephen Williams:

Column: 879

Column: 880

10.41 pm

Jim Shannon:

10.43 pm

Bill Esterson:

Column: 881

Heather Wheeler (South Derbyshire) (Con):

Bill Esterson:

Heather Wheeler:

Bill Esterson:

Richard Graham (Gloucester) (Con)

Bill Esterson:

Richard Graham:

Bill Esterson:

Richard Graham:

Mr Deputy Speaker (Mr Nigel Evans):

Column: 882

Richard Graham:

Bill Esterson:

Julie Hilling:

Bill Esterson:

Gordon Birtwistle:

Bill Esterson:

Gordon Birtwistle:

Bill Esterson:

Column: 883

Mr Reid:

Bill Esterson:

Mr Reid:

Bill Esterson:

Column: 884

Sheila Gilmore:

Bill Esterson:

Geoffrey Clifton-Brown (The Cotswolds) (Con):

Bill Esterson:

Mr Deputy Speaker (Mr Nigel Evans):

Bill Esterson:

Business without Debate [3 Jul 2012]

Delegated Legislation [3 Jul 2012]

Mr Deputy Speaker (Mr Nigel Evans):

Column: 889

Mr Deputy Speaker:

European Union Documents [3 Jul 2012]

Column: 890

Violence against Health Workers [3 Jul 2012]

11.13 pm

Nic Dakin (Scunthorpe) (Lab):

Column: 891

Jim Shannon (Strangford) (DUP):

Nic Dakin:

Column: 892

Column: 893

Column: 894

11.31 pm

The Minister of State, Department of Health (Mr Simon Burns):

Column: 895

Column: 896

Column: 897

Column: 898

11.43 pm