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Volume No. 568Part No. 54

House of Commons Debates 14 October 2013

house of commons

prayers

oral answers to questions

work and pensions

work programme

under-occupancy penalty

new enterprise allowance

atos healthcare (occupational health assessments)

benefit cap

child support agency

work capability assessments

former remploy workers

long-term unemployed

housing benefit changes (scotland)

pension charges

departmental programmes (performance)

personal independence payment

topical questions

secondary schools (accountability)

points of order

Bill Presented

anti-social behaviour, crime and policing bill (ways and means) (no. 2)

anti-social behaviour, crime and policing bill (programme) (no. 2)

anti-social behaviour, crime and policing bill

business without debate

delegated legislation

pub company business models


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Column: 415

Column: 415

House of Commons [14 Oct 2013]

Prayers [14 Oct 2013]

[Mr Speaker] [14 Oct 2013]

Oral Answers to Questions [14 Oct 2013]

Work and Pensions [14 Oct 2013]

Work Programme [14 Oct 2013]

Andy McDonald (Middlesbrough) (Lab):

The Minister of State, Department for Work and Pensions (Esther McVey):

Andy McDonald:

Esther McVey:

Andrew Bridgen (North West Leicestershire) (Con):

Column: 416

Esther McVey:

Dame Anne Begg (Aberdeen South) (Lab):

Esther McVey:

Stephen Timms (East Ham) (Lab):

Esther McVey:

Stephen Timms:

Esther McVey:

Column: 417

Under-occupancy Penalty [14 Oct 2013]

Alec Shelbrooke (Elmet and Rothwell) (Con):

The Secretary of State for Work and Pensions (Mr Iain Duncan Smith):

Alec Shelbrooke:

Mr Duncan Smith:

Mr Nick Raynsford (Greenwich and Woolwich) (Lab):

Mr Duncan Smith:

Mr Julian Brazier (Canterbury) (Con):

Mr Duncan Smith:

Column: 418

Meg Hillier (Hackney South and Shoreditch) (Lab/Co-op):

Mr Duncan Smith:

Robert Halfon (Harlow) (Con):

Mr Duncan Smith:

Chris Bryant (Rhondda) (Lab):

Mr Duncan Smith:

Chris Bryant:

Mr Duncan Smith:

New Enterprise Allowance [14 Oct 2013]

Lorraine Fullbrook (South Ribble) (Con):

Stephen Mosley (City of Chester) (Con):

Column: 419

The Secretary of State for Work and Pensions (Mr Iain Duncan Smith):

Lorraine Fullbrook:

Mr Duncan Smith:

Stephen Mosley:

Mr Duncan Smith:

Bill Esterson (Sefton Central) (Lab):

Column: 420

Mr Duncan Smith:

Kerry McCarthy (Bristol East) (Lab):

Mr Duncan Smith:

Stephen Metcalfe (South Basildon and East Thurrock) (Con):

Mr Duncan Smith:

Mr Barry Sheerman (Huddersfield) (Lab/Co-op):

Mr Duncan Smith:

Jeremy Lefroy (Stafford) (Con):

Column: 421

Mr Duncan Smith:

Atos Healthcare (Occupational Health Assessments) [14 Oct 2013]

Mrs Emma Lewell-Buck (South Shields) (Lab):

The Minister of State, Department for Work and Pensions (Mike Penning):

Mrs Lewell-Buck:

Mike Penning:

Benefit Cap [14 Oct 2013]

Margot James (Stourbridge) (Con):

The Secretary of State for Work and Pensions (Mr Iain Duncan Smith):

Margot James:

Column: 422

Mr Duncan Smith:

Glenda Jackson (Hampstead and Kilburn) (Lab):

Mr Duncan Smith:

Mr David Ruffley (Bury St Edmunds) (Con):

Mr Duncan Smith:

Alex Cunningham (Stockton North) (Lab):

Column: 423

Mr Duncan Smith:

Child Support Agency [14 Oct 2013]

Sir Bob Russell (Colchester) (LD):

The Minister of State, Department for Work and Pensions (Steve Webb):

Sir Bob Russell:

Steve Webb:

Philip Davies (Shipley) (Con):

Steve Webb:

Work Capability Assessments [14 Oct 2013]

Steve Brine (Winchester) (Con):

Column: 424

The Minister of State, Department for Work and Pensions (Mike Penning):

Steve Brine:

Mike Penning:

Tom Greatrex:

Mike Penning:

Mr Philip Hollobone (Kettering) (Con):

Mike Penning:

Dr Eilidh Whiteford (Banff and Buchan) (SNP):

Column: 425

Mike Penning:

Former Remploy Workers [14 Oct 2013]

Rosie Cooper (West Lancashire) (Lab):

The Minister of State, Department for Work and Pensions (Esther McVey):

Rosie Cooper:

Esther McVey:

Paul Maynard (Blackpool North and Cleveleys) (Con):

Esther McVey:

Column: 426

Huw Irranca-Davies (Ogmore) (Lab):

Esther McVey:

Long-term Unemployed [14 Oct 2013]

Mr Dominic Raab (Esher and Walton) (Con):

The Minister of State, Department for Work and Pensions (Esther McVey):

Mr Raab:

Esther McVey:

Lucy Powell (Manchester Central) (Lab/Co-op):

Esther McVey:

Column: 427

Miss Chloe Smith (Norwich North) (Con):

Esther McVey:

Debbie Abrahams (Oldham East and Saddleworth) (Lab):

Esther McVey:

Housing Benefit Changes (Scotland) [14 Oct 2013]

Katy Clark (North Ayrshire and Arran) (Lab):

The Minister of State, Department for Work and Pensions (Esther McVey):

Katy Clark:

Column: 428

Esther McVey:

Sheila Gilmore (Edinburgh East) (Lab):

Esther McVey:

Pension Charges [14 Oct 2013]

Jesse Norman (Hereford and South Herefordshire) (Con):

The Minister of State, Department for Work and Pensions (Steve Webb):

Jesse Norman:

Steve Webb:

Gregg McClymont (Cumbernauld, Kilsyth and Kirkintilloch East) (Lab):

Steve Webb:

Column: 429

Departmental Programmes (Performance) [14 Oct 2013]

Fiona O'Donnell (East Lothian) (Lab):

The Secretary of State for Work and Pensions (Mr Iain Duncan Smith):

Fiona O'Donnell:

Mr Duncan Smith:

Mr Frank Field (Birkenhead) (Lab):

Mr Duncan Smith:

Personal Independence Payment [14 Oct 2013]

Diana Johnson (Kingston upon Hull North) (Lab):

The Minister of State, Department for Work and Pensions (Mike Penning):

Diana Johnson:

Column: 430

Mike Penning:

Topical Questions [14 Oct 2013]

Paul Blomfield (Sheffield Central) (Lab):

The Secretary of State for Work and Pensions (Mr Iain Duncan Smith):

Paul Blomfield:

Mr Duncan Smith:

Andrew Stephenson (Pendle) (Con):

The Minister of State, Department for Work and Pensions (Steve Webb):

Column: 431

Rachel Reeves (Leeds West) (Lab):

Mr Duncan Smith:

Rachel Reeves:

Mr Duncan Smith:

Mr David Amess (Southend West) (Con):

The Minister of State, Department for Work and Pensions (Esther McVey):

Column: 432

Julie Hilling (Bolton West) (Lab):

Mr Duncan Smith:

Dr Julian Huppert (Cambridge) (LD):

The Minister of State, Department for Work and Pensions (Mike Penning):

Andy Sawford (Corby) (Lab/Co-op):

Mr Duncan Smith:

Henry Smith (Crawley) (Con):

Steve Webb:

Column: 433

Huw Irranca-Davies (Ogmore) (Lab):

Esther McVey:

David Mowat (Warrington South) (Con):

Steve Webb:

Kerry McCarthy (Bristol East) (Lab):

Mr Duncan Smith:

Mike Freer (Finchley and Golders Green) (Con):

Steve Webb:

Column: 434

Diana Johnson (Kingston upon Hull North) (Lab):

Esther McVey:

Greg Mulholland (Leeds North West) (LD):

Mr Duncan Smith:

Ian Austin (Dudley North) (Lab):

Mike Penning:

Graham Evans (Weaver Vale) (Con):

Mr Duncan Smith:

Mr Speaker:

Caroline Lucas (Brighton, Pavilion) (Green):

Column: 435

Column: 436

Steve Webb:

Several hon. Members

Mr Speaker:

Column: 437

Secondary Schools (Accountability) [14 Oct 2013]

3.32 pm

The Minister for Schools (Mr David Laws):

Column: 438


Column: 439


3.41 pm

Kevin Brennan (Cardiff West) (Lab):

Column: 440

Mr Laws:

Column: 441


Mr Graham Stuart (Beverley and Holderness) (Con):

Mr Laws:

Column: 442

Mr Barry Sheerman (Huddersfield) (Lab/Co-op):

Mr Laws:

Mr Stewart Jackson (Peterborough) (Con):

Mr Laws:

Meg Munn (Sheffield, Heeley) (Lab/Co-op):

Mr Laws:

Sir Edward Leigh (Gainsborough) (Con):

Column: 443

Mr Laws:

Mr David Lammy (Tottenham) (Lab):

Mr Laws:

Tim Farron (Westmorland and Lonsdale) (LD):

Mr Laws:

Ms Gisela Stuart (Birmingham, Edgbaston) (Lab):

Mr Laws:

Column: 444

Mr David Nuttall (Bury North) (Con):

Mr Laws:

Toby Perkins (Chesterfield) (Lab):

Mr Laws:

Nick de Bois (Enfield North) (Con):

Column: 445

Mr Laws:

Julie Hilling (Bolton West) (Lab):

Mr Laws:

Guy Opperman (Hexham) (Con):

Mr Laws:

Kerry McCarthy (Bristol East) (Lab):

Column: 446

Mr Laws:

Alun Cairns (Vale of Glamorgan) (Con):

Mr Laws:

Bill Esterson (Sefton Central) (Lab):

Mr Laws:

Graham Evans (Weaver Vale) (Con):

Mr Laws:

Column: 447

Meg Hillier (Hackney South and Shoreditch) (Lab/Co-op):

Mr Laws:

Mr Speaker:

Sir Bob Russell (Colchester) (LD):

Mr Laws:

Chris Skidmore (Kingswood) (Con):

Mr Laws:

Column: 448

Jackie Doyle-Price (Thurrock) (Con):

Mr Laws:

Damian Hinds (East Hampshire) (Con):

Mr Laws:

Christopher Pincher (Tamworth) (Con):

Mr Laws:

Column: 449

Richard Fuller (Bedford) (Con):

Mr Laws:

Dr Thérèse Coffey (Suffolk Coastal) (Con):

Mr Laws:

Mr Philip Hollobone (Kettering) (Con):

Mr Laws:

Column: 450

Mr David Burrowes (Enfield, Southgate) (Con):

Mr Laws:

David Rutley (Macclesfield) (Con):

Mr Laws:

Robert Halfon (Harlow) (Con):

Mr Laws:

Column: 451

Points of Order [14 Oct 2013]

4.20 pm

Mr Andrew Smith (Oxford East) (Lab):

Mr Speaker:

Steve Rotheram (Liverpool, Walton) (Lab):

Column: 452

Mr Speaker:

Kevin Brennan (Cardiff West) (Lab)

Chris Bryant (Rhondda) (Lab)

Mr Speaker:

Kevin Brennan:

Mr Speaker:

Dr Julian Lewis (New Forest East) (Con):

Column: 453

Mr Speaker:

Chris Bryant:

Mr Speaker:

Column: 454

Bill Presented

Anti-Social Behaviour, Crime and Policing Bill (Ways and Means) (No. 2) [14 Oct 2013]

Column: 455

Anti-Social Behaviour, Crime and Policing Bill (Programme) (No. 2) [14 Oct 2013]

4.31 pm

The Minister for Policing and Criminal Justice (Damian Green):

Column: 456


Dr Julian Huppert (Cambridge) (LD):

Damian Green:

4.34 pm

Jack Dromey (Birmingham, Erdington) (Lab):

Column: 457

Mr Tom Clarke (Coatbridge, Chryston and Bellshill) (Lab):

Jack Dromey:

Bill Esterson (Sefton Central) (Lab):

Jack Dromey:

Column: 458


4.42 pm

Dr Julian Huppert (Cambridge) (LD):

Column: 459


4.44 pm

Mr Kevan Jones (North Durham) (Lab):

Mr Mike Hancock (Portsmouth South) (Ind):

Mr Jones:

Column: 460


4.50 pm

Mr Dominic Raab (Esher and Walton) (Con):

Column: 461

4.54 pm

Mr Graham Allen (Nottingham North) (Lab):

4.54 pm

Nick de Bois (Enfield North) (Con):

Column: 462

4.57 pm

Julie Hilling (Bolton West) (Lab):

Damian Green

Mr Speaker:

4.58 pm

Damian Green:

Column: 463

Dr Julian Lewis (New Forest East) (Con):

Damian Green:

Division No. 96 [ Anti-Social Behaviour, Crime and Policing Bill (Programme) (No. 2)]

Column: 464

[14 Oct 2013]

Column: 468

Anti-social Behaviour, Crime and Policing Bill [14 Oct 2013]

5.18 pm

The Minister for Policing and Criminal Justice (Damian Green):

Madam Deputy Speaker (Dawn Primarolo):

Column: 469

Column: 470

Column: 471

Column: 472

Column: 473

Damian Green:

Ann Coffey (Stockport) (Lab):

Damian Green:

Column: 474


Dr Julian Huppert (Cambridge) (LD):

Damian Green:

Dr Huppert

Damian Green:

Dr Huppert:

Damian Green:

Column: 475


Dr Huppert:

Column: 476

Damian Green:

5.30 pm

Diana Johnson (Kingston upon Hull North) (Lab):

Column: 477


Column: 478


Mr Robert Buckland (South Swindon) (Con):

Diana Johnson:

Column: 479


Mr Buckland:

Diana Johnson:

Column: 480

Dr Huppert:

5.45 pm

Diana Johnson:

Dr Huppert

Diana Johnson:

Mark Reckless (Rochester and Strood) (Con):

Column: 481

Diana Johnson:

Sir Paul Beresford (Mole Valley) (Con):

Diana Johnson:

Column: 482

Nicola Blackwood (Oxford West and Abingdon) (Con):

Column: 483


Mr Buckland:

Nicola Blackwood:

Column: 484


6 pm

Keith Vaz (Leicester East) (Lab):

Column: 486

Sir Paul Beresford:

Column: 487


Dr Huppert:

Sir Paul Beresford:

Mr Buckland:

Sir Paul Beresford:

Paul Goggins (Wythenshawe and Sale East) (Lab):

Sir Paul Beresford:

Column: 488

Mr Andrew Smith (Oxford East) (Lab):

6.15 pm

Dr Huppert:

Column: 489


Diana Johnson:

Dr Huppert:

Mark Reckless:

Dr Huppert:

Column: 490

Simon Danczuk (Rochdale) (Lab):

Column: 491

Keith Vaz:

Simon Danczuk:

Nicola Blackwood:

Simon Danczuk:

Damian Green:

Mark Reckless:

Column: 492

Damian Green:

6.30 pm

Column: 493


Ann Coffey:

Damian Green:

Column: 494

Nicola Blackwood:

Damian Green:

Column: 495


Sir Paul Beresford

Madam Deputy Speaker (Dawn Primarolo):

Sir Paul Beresford:

Madam Deputy Speaker:

Column: 496

Column: 497

Column: 498

Column: 499

Column: 500

Column: 502

Column: 503

Column: 506

Column: 507

Column: 508

Column: 509

6.45 pm

Simon Hughes (Bermondsey and Old Southwark) (LD):

Madam Deputy Speaker (Dawn Primarolo):

Column: 510

Simon Hughes:

Column: 512


Dr Huppert:

Simon Hughes:

Column: 513

7 pm

Column: 514

Dr Huppert:

Simon Hughes:

Column: 515

Column: 516

Column: 517

7.15 pm

Column: 518

Mr Steve Reed (Croydon North) (Lab):

Column: 519

Kelvin Hopkins (Luton North) (Lab):

Mr Reed:

Stephen Phillips (Sleaford and North Hykeham) (Con):

Mr Reed:

Dr Huppert:

Column: 520

Mr Reed:

Simon Hughes (Bermondsey and Old Southwark) (LD):

Mr Reed:

Column: 521


7.30 pm

Column: 522

Tracey Crouch (Chatham and Aylesford) (Con):

Priti Patel (Witham) (Con):

Tracey Crouch:

Column: 523


John McDonnell (Hayes and Harlington) (Lab):

Column: 524

7.45 pm

Column: 525


Simon Hughes:

John McDonnell:

Column: 526

Dr Huppert:

Stephen Phillips:

Dr Huppert:

Mr Jim Cunningham (Coventry South) (Lab):

Dr Huppert:

Column: 527

Simon Hughes:

Column: 528

Dr Huppert:

Column: 529

Mr Elfyn Llwyd (Dwyfor Meirionnydd) (PC):

8 pm

Column: 530

Stephen Phillips:

Sir Peter Bottomley (Worthing West) (Con):

Column: 531

Stephen Phillips:

Column: 532


Column: 533

8.15 pm

Mark Field (Cities of London and Westminster) (Con):

Mr Steve Reed:

Mark Field:

Column: 534

Simon Hughes:

Mark Field:

Stephen Phillips:

Column: 535

Mark Field:

The Minister of State, Home Department (Norman Baker):

Column: 536

Column: 537

8.30 pm

Simon Hughes:

Norman Baker:

Column: 538


Mr Steve Reed:

Column: 539

Norman Baker:

Mr Reed:

Norman Baker:

Column: 540


Mr Reed

Norman Baker:

Mr Reed:

Norman Baker:

Stephen Phillips:

Norman Baker:

Dr Huppert:

Norman Baker:

Column: 541

8.45 pm

Column: 542


Column: 543

John McDonnell:

Norman Baker:

Column: 544


Simon Hughes:

Norman Baker:

Stephen Phillips:

Column: 545

Norman Baker:

Mr Steve Reed:

Norman Baker:

Simon Hughes:

John McDonnell:

Column: 546

Simon Hughes:

Column: 547

Column: 548

Column: 549

Column: 550

9 pm

Damian Green:

Mr Deputy Speaker (Mr Lindsay Hoyle):

Column: 551

Damian Green:

Column: 552


Column: 553

Diana Johnson:

Column: 554


Column: 555


9.15 pm

Column: 556


Steve Rotheram (Liverpool, Walton) (Lab):

Jim Shannon (Strangford) (DUP):

Steve Rotheram:

Column: 557


Column: 558


Tessa Munt (Wells) (LD):

9.30 pm

Steve Rotheram:

Column: 559

Damian Green:

Column: 560

Mr Mark Spencer (Sherwood) (Con):

Damian Green:

Jim Shannon:

Damian Green:

Column: 561


Diana Johnson:

Damian Green:

Tessa Munt:

9.45 pm

Column: 562

Damian Green:

Tessa Munt:

Damian Green:

Division No. 97 [ Anti-social Behaviour, Crime and Policing Bill] [14 Oct 2013]

10.3 pm

Column: 567

Business without Debate [14 Oct 2013]

Delegated Legislation [14 Oct 2013]

Column: 568

Mr Speaker:

PetitionTrain Services (Brighton and Hove)

10.4 pm

Caroline Lucas (Brighton, Pavilion) (Green):

Column: 569

Pub Company Business Models [14 Oct 2013]

10.5 pm

Greg Mulholland (Leeds North West) (LD):

Column: 570


Grahame M. Morris (Easington) (Lab):

Greg Mulholland:

Column: 571

Column: 572


Column: 573


Column: 574


Column: 575


10.31 pm

The Secretary of State for Business, Innovation and Skills (Vince Cable):

Column: 576


10.36 pm