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House of Commons Debates 20 November 2013

house of commons

prayers

oral answers to questions

wales

energy infrastructure

energy costs

smes

m4 motorway

borrowing powers (welsh government)

living wage

taxation (economy)

new prison (north wales)

prime minister

engagements

nuclear deterrence

engagements

point of order

gibraltar

start-up loans

point of order

regulation of refractive eye surgery

defence reform bill

business without debate

delegated legislation

defra office (alnwick)

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Column: 1211

House of Commons [20 Nov 2013]

Prayers [20 Nov 2013]

[Mr Speaker] [20 Nov 2013]

Oral Answers to Questions [20 Nov 2013]

Wales [20 Nov 2013]

Energy Infrastructure [20 Nov 2013]

Bob Blackman (Harrow East) (Con):

The Parliamentary Under-Secretary of State for Wales (Stephen Crabb):

Bob Blackman:

Stephen Crabb:

Hywel Williams (Arfon) (PC):

Stephen Crabb:

Column: 1212

Roger Williams (Brecon and Radnorshire) (LD):

Stephen Crabb:

Energy Costs [20 Nov 2013]

Huw Irranca-Davies (Ogmore) (Lab):

The Parliamentary Under-Secretary of State for Wales (Stephen Crabb):

Huw Irranca-Davies:

Stephen Crabb:

Robert Halfon (Harlow) (Con):

Stephen Crabb:

Column: 1213

Jessica Morden (Newport East) (Lab):

Stephen Crabb:

Mr Mark Williams (Ceredigion) (LD):

Stephen Crabb:

Mr Peter Hain (Neath) (Lab):

Stephen Crabb:

Guto Bebb (Aberconwy) (Con):

Stephen Crabb:

Column: 1214

Nia Griffith (Llanelli) (Lab):

Stephen Crabb:

SMEs [20 Nov 2013]

Mr Henry Bellingham (North West Norfolk) (Con):

The Secretary of State for Wales (Mr David Jones):

Mr Bellingham:

Mr Jones:

Mr Elfyn Llwyd (Dwyfor Meirionnydd) (PC):

Column: 1215

Mr Jones:

Mr Llwyd:

Mr Jones:

Alun Cairns (Vale of Glamorgan) (Con):

Mr Jones:

Geraint Davies (Swansea West) (Lab/Co-op):

Mr Jones:

M4 Motorway [20 Nov 2013]

Bill Wiggin (North Herefordshire) (Con):

Andrew Selous (South West Bedfordshire) (Con):

Column: 1216

The Secretary of State for Wales (Mr David Jones):

Bill Wiggin:

Mr Jones:

Andrew Selous:

Mr Jones:

Kevin Brennan (Cardiff West) (Lab):

Mr Jones:

David T. C. Davies (Monmouth) (Con):

Mr Jones:

Borrowing Powers (Welsh Government) [20 Nov 2013]

Susan Elan Jones (Clwyd South) (Lab):

Column: 1217

The Secretary of State for Wales (Mr David Jones):

Susan Elan Jones:

Mr Jones:

Michael Fabricant (Lichfield) (Con):

Mr Jones:

Mr Speaker:

Mr Jones:

Jonathan Edwards (Carmarthen East and Dinefwr) (PC):

Mr Jones:

Living Wage [20 Nov 2013]

Mr David Hanson (Delyn) (Lab):

Chris Ruane (Vale of Clwyd) (Lab):

Column: 1218

The Parliamentary Under-Secretary of State for Wales (Stephen Crabb):

Mr Hanson:

Stephen Crabb:

Chris Ruane:

Stephen Crabb:

Jonathan Evans (Cardiff North) (Con):

Stephen Crabb:

Ann Clwyd (Cynon Valley) (Lab):

Stephen Crabb:

Column: 1219

Taxation (Economy) [20 Nov 2013]

Karl McCartney (Lincoln) (Con):

The Secretary of State for Wales (Mr David Jones):

Karl McCartney:

Mr Speaker:

Karl McCartney

Mr Jones:

Mr Angus Brendan MacNeil (Na h-Eileanan an Iar) (SNP):

Mr Jones:

Owen Smith (Pontypridd) (Lab):

Column: 1220

Mr Jones:

Owen Smith:

Mr Jones:

New Prison (North Wales) [20 Nov 2013]

Stephen Mosley (City of Chester) (Con):

The Parliamentary Under-Secretary of State for Wales (Stephen Crabb):

Stephen Mosley:

Stephen Crabb:

Mr Speaker:

Hon. Members:

Mr Crispin Blunt (Reigate) (Con)

Stephen Crabb:

Column: 1221

Prime Minister [20 Nov 2013]

Engagements [20 Nov 2013]

Steve Brine (Winchester) (Con):

The Prime Minister (Mr David Cameron):

Steve Brine:

The Prime Minister:

Edward Miliband (Doncaster North) (Lab):

The Prime Minister:

Column: 1222

Edward Miliband:

The Prime Minister:

Edward Miliband:

The Prime Minister:

Edward Miliband:

Mr Speaker:

Column: 1223

Edward Miliband:

The Prime Minister:

Edward Miliband:

The Prime Minister:

Edward Miliband:

Mr Speaker:

Edward Miliband:

Column: 1224

The Prime Minister:

Mr Speaker:

The Prime Minister:

Jackie Doyle-Price (Thurrock) (Con):

The Prime Minister:

Mr Nigel Dodds (Belfast North) (DUP):

The Prime Minister:

Column: 1225

Sir Tony Baldry (Banbury) (Con):

The Prime Minister:

Katy Clark (North Ayrshire and Arran) (Lab):

The Prime Minister:

Mr Adrian Sanders (Torbay) (LD):

The Prime Minister:

Alex Cunningham (Stockton North) (Lab):

The Prime Minister:

Column: 1226

Mr David Burrowes (Enfield, Southgate) (Con):

The Prime Minister:

Karl Turner (Kingston upon Hull East) (Lab):

The Prime Minister:

Mary Macleod (Brentford and Isleworth) (Con):

The Prime Minister:

Sarah Champion (Rotherham) (Lab):

Column: 1227

The Prime Minister:

Dr Matthew Offord (Hendon) (Con):

Mr Speaker:

Dr Offord:

The Prime Minister:

Sir Bob Russell (Colchester) (LD):

The Prime Minister:

Mr Peter Hain (Neath) (Lab):

Column: 1228

The Prime Minister:

Mr David Ruffley (Bury St Edmunds) (Con):

The Prime Minister:

Mr Tom Harris (Glasgow South) (Lab):

The Prime Minister:

Nuclear Deterrence [20 Nov 2013]

Dr Julian Lewis (New Forest East) (Con):

The Prime Minister:

Column: 1229

Dr Lewis:

The Prime Minister:

Mr Speaker:

Engagements [20 Nov 2013]

Mr Michael Meacher (Oldham West and Royton) (Lab):

The Prime Minister:

Mr Stephen O’Brien (Eddisbury) (Con):

The Prime Minister:

Bill Esterson (Sefton Central) (Lab):

The Prime Minister:

Neil Parish (Tiverton and Honiton) (Con):

Column: 1230

The Prime Minister:

Teresa Pearce (Erith and Thamesmead) (Lab):

Mr Speaker:

Teresa Pearce:

The Prime Minister:

Mr James Arbuthnot (North East Hampshire) (Con):

The Prime Minister:

Column: 1231

Mrs Mary Glindon (North Tyneside) (Lab):

Column: 1232

The Prime Minister:

Column: 1233

Point of Order [20 Nov 2013]

12.34 pm

Mr Michael Meacher (Oldham West and Royton) (Lab):

Mr Speaker:

Mr Meacher:

The Prime Minister:

Several hon. Members

Mr Speaker:

Column: 1234

Gibraltar [20 Nov 2013]

12.36 pm

Robert Neill (Bromley and Chislehurst) (Con)

The Parliamentary Under-Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs (Mark Simmonds):

Column: 1235

Robert Neill:

Mark Simmonds:

Mr Gareth Thomas (Harrow West) (Lab/Co-op):

Column: 1236

Mark Simmonds:

Sir Menzies Campbell (North East Fife) (LD):

Column: 1237

Mark Simmonds:

Sir Gerald Kaufman (Manchester, Gorton) (Lab):

Mark Simmonds:

Mr Henry Bellingham (North West Norfolk) (Con):

Mark Simmonds:

Mr Peter Hain (Neath) (Lab):

Column: 1238

Mark Simmonds:

David T. C. Davies (Monmouth) (Con):

Mark Simmonds:

Mr Nigel Dodds (Belfast North) (DUP):

Mark Simmonds:

Bob Stewart (Beckenham) (Con):

Column: 1239

Mark Simmonds:

Kate Hoey (Vauxhall) (Lab):

Mark Simmonds:

Geoffrey Clifton-Brown (The Cotswolds) (Con):

Mark Simmonds:

Mr David Winnick (Walsall North) (Lab):

Column: 1240

Mark Simmonds:

Robert Halfon (Harlow) (Con):

Mark Simmonds:

Chris Bryant (Rhondda) (Lab):

Mark Simmonds:

Mr Tobias Ellwood (Bournemouth East) (Con):

Column: 1241

Mark Simmonds:

Thomas Docherty (Dunfermline and West Fife) (Lab):

Mark Simmonds:

Neil Parish (Tiverton and Honiton) (Con):

Mark Simmonds:

Column: 1242

Mr Angus Brendan MacNeil (Na h-Eileanan an Iar) (SNP):

Mark Simmonds:

David Morris (Morecambe and Lunesdale) (Con):

Mark Simmonds:

Martin Horwood (Cheltenham) (LD):

Mark Simmonds:

Column: 1243

Mr Philip Hollobone (Kettering) (Con):

Mark Simmonds:

Chris Heaton-Harris (Daventry) (Con):

Mark Simmonds:

Heather Wheeler (South Derbyshire) (Con):

Mark Simmonds:

Oliver Colvile (Plymouth, Sutton and Devonport) (Con):

Column: 1244

Mark Simmonds:

Ian Paisley (North Antrim) (DUP):

Mark Simmonds:

Glyn Davies (Montgomeryshire) (Con):

Mark Simmonds:

Bill Wiggin (North Herefordshire) (Con):

Mark Simmonds:

Column: 1245

Start-up Loans [20 Nov 2013]

1.16 pm

The Minister for Skills and Enterprise (Matthew Hancock):

Column: 1246

1.22 pm

Column: 1247

Toby Perkins (Chesterfield) (Lab):

Column: 1248

Mr Speaker:

Toby Perkins:

Matthew Hancock:

Column: 1249

Several hon. Members

Mr Speaker:

Mr John Redwood (Wokingham) (Con):

Matthew Hancock:

Mr George Mudie (Leeds East) (Lab):

Matthew Hancock:

Mr Brian Binley (Northampton South) (Con):

Matthew Hancock:

Column: 1250

Jonathan Edwards (Carmarthen East and Dinefwr) (PC):

Matthew Hancock:

Anne Marie Morris (Newton Abbot) (Con):

Matthew Hancock:

Bill Esterson (Sefton Central) (Lab):

Matthew Hancock:

Julian Smith (Skipton and Ripon) (Con):

Matthew Hancock:

Column: 1251

Mark Lazarowicz (Edinburgh North and Leith) (Lab/Co-op):

Matthew Hancock:

Andrew Griffiths (Burton) (Con):

Matthew Hancock:

Jessica Lee (Erewash) (Con):

Matthew Hancock:

Mr Stewart Jackson (Peterborough) (Con):

Matthew Hancock:

Column: 1252

Mr Andrew Turner (Isle of Wight) (Con):

Matthew Hancock:

Justin Tomlinson (North Swindon) (Con):

Matthew Hancock:

Stephen Mosley (City of Chester) (Con):

Matthew Hancock:

Mark Pawsey (Rugby) (Con):

Matthew Hancock:

Column: 1253

Mr Marcus Jones (Nuneaton) (Con):

Matthew Hancock:

Neil Carmichael (Stroud) (Con):

Matthew Hancock:

Robert Halfon (Harlow) (Con):

Matthew Hancock:

Mr Philip Hollobone (Kettering) (Con):

Column: 1254

Matthew Hancock:

Several hon. Members

Mr Speaker:

Guy Opperman (Hexham) (Con):

Matthew Hancock:

Andrew Jones (Harrogate and Knaresborough) (Con):

Matthew Hancock:

Jeremy Lefroy (Stafford) (Con):

Matthew Hancock:

Richard Fuller (Bedford) (Con):

Matthew Hancock:

Column: 1255

Sarah Newton (Truro and Falmouth) (Con):

Matthew Hancock:

Chris Heaton-Harris (Daventry) (Con):

Matthew Hancock:

Column: 1256

Point of Order [20 Nov 2013]

1.50 pm

Paul Goggins (Wythenshawe and Sale East) (Lab):

Mr Speaker:

Column: 1257

Regulation of Refractive Eye Surgery [20 Nov 2013]

1.55 pm

John McDonnell (Hayes and Harlington) (Lab):

Column: 1258

Column: 1259

Column: 1260

Defence Reform Bill [20 Nov 2013]

2.3 pm

Mr Julian Brazier (Canterbury) (Con):

Mr Speaker:

Column: 1261

Column: 1262

Mr Brazier:

Column: 1263

Mr Bob Ainsworth (Coventry North East) (Lab)

Mr Brazier:

The Secretary of State for Defence (Mr Philip Hammond):

Mr Brazier:

Mr Kevan Jones (North Durham) (Lab):

Andrew Selous (South West Bedfordshire) (Con):

Column: 1264

Mr Jones:

Mr Brazier:

Column: 1265

Heather Wheeler (South Derbyshire) (Con)

Mr Brazier:

Heather Wheeler:

Mr Speaker:

2.15 pm

Heather Wheeler:

Mr Brazier:

Ms Gisela Stuart (Birmingham, Edgbaston) (Lab):

Column: 1266

Mr Brazier:

Ms Stuart:

Mr Brazier:

Mr Tobias Ellwood (Bournemouth East) (Con)

Nicholas Soames (Mid Sussex) (Con):

Mr Brazier:

Mr Ellwood:

Mr Brazier:

Nicholas Soames:

Mr Brazier:

Column: 1267

Mr Philip Hammond:

Mr Brazier:

Rory Stewart (Penrith and The Border) (Con):

Column: 1268

Mr Brazier:

Dr Liam Fox (North Somerset) (Con):

Mr Brazier:

Mr John Baron (Basildon and Billericay) (Con):

Column: 1269

Mr Brazier:

Mr Baron:

Column: 1270

2.30 pm

Mr Brazier:

Mr Ellwood:

Mr Brazier:

Column: 1271

Mr Dai Havard (Merthyr Tydfil and Rhymney) (Lab):

Mr Baron:

Mr Philip Hammond:

Column: 1272

Mr Baron:

Mr Peter Bone (Wellingborough) (Con):

Mr Baron:

Mr Jim Cunningham (Coventry South) (Lab):

Mr Baron:

Mr Philip Hammond:

Madam Deputy Speaker (Dawn Primarolo):

Column: 1273

Mr Baron:

Martin Horwood (Cheltenham) (LD):

2.45 pm

Mr Baron:

Mr James Arbuthnot (North East Hampshire) (Con):

Mr Ellwood:

Column: 1274

Mr Baron:

Mr Brazier:

Mr Baron:

Mr Brian H. Donohoe (Central Ayrshire) (Lab):

Mr Baron:

Column: 1275

Mr Brazier:

Mr Baron:

Mr Philip Hammond:

Mr Baron:

Rory Stewart:

Mr Baron:

Column: 1276

3 pm

Column: 1277

Mr Ellwood:

Mr Baron:

Column: 1278

Jack Lopresti (Filton and Bradley Stoke) (Con):

Mr Baron:

Oliver Colvile (Plymouth, Sutton and Devonport) (Con):

Mr Baron:

Martin Horwood

Mr Brazier

Mr Baron:

Martin Horwood

Mr Baron:

Oliver Colvile:

Mr Baron:

Martin Horwood

Column: 1279

Mr Baron:

Mr Ainsworth:

Column: 1280

Mr Brazier:

Mr Ainsworth:

3.15 pm

Martin Horwood:

Mr Ainsworth:

Mrs Madeleine Moon (Bridgend) (Lab):

Column: 1281

Mr Ainsworth:

Mr Ellwood:

Mr Ainsworth:

Column: 1282

Mr Arbuthnot:

Mr Ellwood:

Mr Arbuthnot:

Mr Baron:

Madam Deputy Speaker (Dawn Primarolo):

Mr Arbuthnot:

Column: 1283

James Morris (Halesowen and Rowley Regis) (Con):

Mr Arbuthnot:

Oliver Colvile (Plymouth, Sutton and Devonport) (Con):

3.30 pm

Mr Arbuthnot:

Column: 1284

Mr Brian Binley (Northampton South) (Con):

Mr Arbuthnot:

Mr Binley:

Mr Arbuthnot:

Mr Baron:

Mr Arbuthnot:

Vernon Coaker (Gedling) (Lab):

Column: 1285

Mr Philip Hammond:

Column: 1286

Vernon Coaker:

Angus Robertson (Moray) (SNP):

Vernon Coaker:

Mr Philip Hammond:

Vernon Coaker:

Column: 1287

Mr Hammond:

Vernon Coaker:

Mr Brazier:

Vernon Coaker:

Mr Philip Hammond

Vernon Coaker:

3.45 pm

Mr Hammond:

Column: 1288

Vernon Coaker:

Mr Ellwood:

Vernon Coaker:

Madam Deputy Speaker (Dawn Primarolo):

Vernon Coaker:

Column: 1289

Mr Ellwood:

Vernon Coaker:

Mrs Anne Main (St Albans) (Con):

Vernon Coaker:

Mr Havard:

Vernon Coaker:

Sarah Newton (Truro and Falmouth) (Con):

Column: 1290

Vernon Coaker:

Sir Gerald Howarth (Aldershot) (Con):

Mr Kevan Jones:

Sir Gerald Howarth:

Mr Jones:

Sir Gerald Howarth:

Column: 1291

4 pm

Column: 1292

Dr Julian Lewis (New Forest East) (Con):

Sir Gerald Howarth:

Mr Brazier:

Sir Gerald Howarth:

Mr Ellwood:

Sir Gerald Howarth:

Mark Pawsey (Rugby) (Con):

Column: 1293

Sir Gerald Howarth:

Several hon. Members

Sir Gerald Howarth:

Mr Ainsworth:

Sir Gerald Howarth:

Mr Baron

Sir Gerald Howarth:

Mr Baron:

Sir Gerald Howarth:

Column: 1294

Mr Baron:

Sir Gerald Howarth:

Thomas Docherty (Dunfermline and West Fife) (Lab):

Mr James Gray (North Wiltshire) (Con):

Thomas Docherty:

Column: 1295

Mr Ellwood:

Thomas Docherty:

Mr Philip Hammond:

Thomas Docherty:

Bob Stewart (Beckenham) (Con):

4.15 pm

Column: 1296

Thomas Docherty:

Mr Philip Hammond

Thomas Docherty:

Mr Havard:

Thomas Docherty:

Column: 1297

Mr Brazier:

Thomas Docherty:

Mrs Moon:

Mr Deputy Speaker (Mr Lindsay Hoyle):

Thomas Docherty:

Column: 1298

Sir Nick Harvey (North Devon) (LD):

Thomas Docherty:

Column: 1299

Patrick Mercer (Newark) (Ind):

Mr Kevan Jones:

Column: 1300

Patrick Mercer:

4.30 pm

Rory Stewart:

Patrick Mercer:

Jim Shannon (Strangford) (DUP):

Column: 1301

Patrick Mercer:

Mr Baron:

Patrick Mercer:

Mr Philip Hammond:

Patrick Mercer:

Column: 1302

Mr Gray:

Patrick Mercer:

Caroline Dinenage (Gosport) (Con):

Column: 1303

Mr Gray:

Column: 1304

4.45 pm

Mr Baron:

Mr Gray:

Column: 1305

Bob Stewart:

Column: 1306

Mr Gray:

Column: 1307

Dr Julian Lewis:

Column: 1308

5 pm

Martin Horwood:

Mr Deputy Speaker (Mr Lindsay Hoyle):

Dr Lewis:

Mr Gray:

Column: 1309

Dr Lewis:

Rory Stewart:

Column: 1310

Column: 1311

Mr Baron:

Rory Stewart:

5.15 pm

Andrew Selous:

Mr Kevan Jones:

Andrew Selous:

Column: 1312

Mr Bone:

Andrew Selous:

Column: 1313

Richard Drax (South Dorset) (Con):

Andrew Selous:

Richard Drax:

Mr Brazier:

Column: 1314

Richard Drax:

Mr William Cash (Stone) (Con):

Richard Drax:

Column: 1315

Mr Ellwood:

5.30 pm

Mr Kevan Jones:

Mr Ellwood:

Mr Baron:

Mr Ellwood:

Mr Baron:

Mr Ellwood:

Column: 1316

Mr Brazier:

Mr Ellwood:

Dr Julian Lewis:

Column: 1317

Mr Ellwood:

Mr Gray:

Mr Ellwood:

Sir Edward Garnier (Harborough) (Con):

Column: 1318

Mr Philip Hammond:

Mr Havard:

Mr Hammond:

Mr Cash:

Column: 1319

Mr Hammond:

5.45 pm

Mr Cash:

Column: 1320

Mr Hammond:

Several hon. Members

Mr Hammond:

Mr Baron:

Mr Hammond:

Column: 1321

Mr Baron:

Madam Deputy Speaker (Mrs Eleanor Laing):

Mr Hammond:

Mr Jeffrey M. Donaldson (Lagan Valley) (DUP):

Mr Hammond:

Mr Baron:

Mr Hammond:

Mr Baron

Madam Deputy Speaker (Mrs Eleanor Laing):

Column: 1322

Mr Hammond:

Mr Brazier:

Column: 1323

Division No. 130 [ Defence Reform Bill] [20 Nov 2013]

6.14 pm

Column: 1328

Division No. 131 [ Defence Reform Bill] [20 Nov 2013]

6.29 pm

The Parliamentary Under-Secretary of State for Defence (Mr Philip Dunne):

Column: 1333

Column: 1334

Column: 1335

6.42 pm

Mr Kevan Jones:

Column: 1336

Mr Philip Hammond

Mr Jones:

Mr Hammond:

Mr Jones:

Mr Dunne:

Mr Jones:

Column: 1337

John McDonnell (Hayes and Harlington) (Lab):

Mr Jones:

John Woodcock (Barrow and Furness) (Lab/Co-op):

Mr Jones:

Column: 1338

Mr Philip Hammond:

Mr Jones:

Mr Hammond:

Column: 1339

Mr Jones

Mr Hammond:

Mr Jones:

6.56 pm

Mr Arbuthnot:

Mr Dunne:

Column: 1340

Mr Arbuthnot:

6.59 pm

Martin Horwood:

7 pm

Jim Shannon (Strangford) (DUP):

Mr Deputy Speaker (Mr Lindsay Hoyle):

Business without Debate [20 Nov 2013]

Delegated Legislation [20 Nov 2013]

Column: 1341

PetitionSt Raphael’s Hospice (Cheam)

7.1 pm

Paul Burstow (Sutton and Cheam) (LD):

Column: 1342

DEFRA Office (Alnwick) [20 Nov 2013]

7.4 pm

Sir Alan Beith (Berwick-upon-Tweed) (LD):

Column: 1343

Column: 1344

7.13 pm

The Parliamentary Under-Secretary of State for Environment, Food and Rural Affairs (Dan Rogerson):

Column: 1345

Sir Alan Beith:

Dan Rogerson:

Column: 1346

Column: 1347

Sir Alan Beith:

Dan Rogerson:

Column: 1348

7.28 pm