Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change Fifth Assessment Report: Review of Working Group I contribution - Energy and Climate Change Contents


Formal Minutes


Tuesday 15 July 2014

Members present:

Mr Tim Yeo, in the Chair
Ian Lavery

Mr Peter Lilley

Albert Owen

John Robertson

Sir Robert Smith

Graham Stringer

Dr Alan Whitehead

The following declarations of interest relating to the inquiry were made:

28 January 2014, 11 February 2014 and 11 March 2014

Sir Robert Smith declared interests, as listed in the Register of Members' Interests, in the oil and gas industry, in particular a shareholding in Shell Transport and Trading (oil-integrated)

Draft Report (Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change Fifth Assessment Report: Review of Working Group I contribution), proposed by the Chair, brought up and read.

Ordered, That the draft Report be read a second time, paragraph by paragraph.

Paragraphs 1 to 11 read and agreed to.

Motion made, and Question put, That paragraph 12 stand part of the Report.

The Committee divided:

Ayes, 5

Ian Lavery

Albert Owen

John Robertson

Sir Robert Smith

Dr Alan Whitehead

Noes, 1

Graham Stringer

Paragraph accordingly agreed to.

Paragraphs 13 to 19 read and agreed to.

Paragraph 20 read.

Amendment proposed, in line 2, to leave out from "involved" to the end of the paragraph, and insert ".We have received evidence which gives us cause for concern of chronic political and "activist" interference. The procedures to safeguard against this influence are either non-existent or ineffective."—(Graham Stringer.)

The Committee divided:

Ayes, 2

Mr Peter Lilley

Graham Stringer

Noes, 5

Ian Lavery

Albert Owen

John Robertson

Sir Robert Smith

Dr Alan Whitehead

Amendment accordingly negatived.

Paragraph agreed to.

Paragraph 21 read and agreed to.

Paragraph 22 read.

Amendment proposed, in line 3, to leave out from "agreement" to the end of the paragraph, and insert "within the IPCC process although there remains significant disagreement from a number of reputable scientists."—(Graham Stringer.)

The Committee divided:

Ayes, 2

Mr Peter Lilley

Graham Stringer

Noes, 5

Ian Lavery

Albert Owen

John Robertson

Sir Robert Smith

Dr Alan Whitehead

Amendment accordingly negatived.

Paragraph agreed to.

Paragraphs 23 to 30 read and agreed to.

Motion made, to leave out paragraphs 31 to 33 and insert the following new paragraph:

Representatives from a hundred governments were involved in a secret four daylong meeting which reduced the original draft summary for policymakers by 700 words but increased it by 5 pages. This document is clearly a negotiated political statement. Astonishingly the IPCC announced that they would change the underlying report of 14 chapters to be consistent with the Summary for Policymakers. This turns normal procedure on its head. The IPCC is fundamentally a political body that from its inception has been subject to undue influence from governments and "activists". This has distracted it from its ability to collect and summarise the science. The claim from the IPCC that it is a scientific body is false. The IPCC should be abolished and a new more transparent body should be set up in its place. This should be controlled by scientists with an international reputation and achievements in climate science and other relevant disciplines. It should report more frequently. Its objective should be to summarise the latest science in this field.—(Graham Stringer.)

Question put, That the new paragraph be read a second time.

The Committee divided:

Ayes, 2

Mr Peter Lilley

Graham Stringer

Noes, 5

Ian Lavery

Albert Owen

John Robertson

Sir Robert Smith

Dr Alan Whitehead

Paragraphs 31 to 33 read and agreed to.

Paragraph 34 read and agreed to.

Motion made, and Question put, That paragraph 35 stand part of the Report.

The Committee divided:

Ayes, 5

Ian Lavery

Albert Owen

John Robertson

Sir Robert Smith

Dr Alan Whitehead

Noes, 2

Mr Peter Lilley

Graham Stringer

Paragraph accordingly agreed to.

Paragraphs 36 to 41 read and agreed to.

Paragraph 42 read.

Amendment proposed, in line 1, to leave out from "presents" to the end of the paragraph, and insert "evidence that many of the changes to the climate recorded in the latter half of the 20th Century were driven by post-industrial human activity. We have found no credible scientific source that disputes the claim that human activity has an influence on the climate. There is still a debate about the quantification of this impact."—(Graham Stringer.)

The Committee divided:

Ayes, 2

Mr Peter Lilley

Graham Stringer

Noes, 5

Ian Lavery

Albert Owen

John Robertson

Sir Robert Smith

Dr Alan Whitehead

Amendment accordingly negatived.

Paragraph agreed to.

Paragraphs 43 to 52 read and agreed to.

Motion made, to leave out paragraph 53 and insert the following new paragraph:

Only 3% of the 251 climate models predicted the current hiatus in warming. Although the IPCC has qualified its previous reports by predicting that warming would be non-linear, it is difficult to have greater confidence in the IPCC's conclusion at a time when the vast majority of the models' predictions have failed. At the present time there is no method known for measuring directly the Earth's energy budget and therefore projections of future temperature and climate are difficult to make.—(Graham Stringer.)

Question put, That the new paragraph be read a second time.

The Committee divided:

Ayes, 2

Mr Peter Lilley

Graham Stringer

Noes, 5

Ian Lavery

Albert Owen

John Robertson

Sir Robert Smith

Dr Alan Whitehead

Paragraph 53 read and agreed to.

Paragraphs 54 to 56 read and agreed to.

Motion made, and Question put, That paragraph 57 stand part of the Report.

The Committee divided:

Ayes, 5

Ian Lavery

Albert Owen

John Robertson

Sir Robert Smith

Dr Alan Whitehead

Noes, 2

Mr Peter Lilley

Graham Stringer

Paragraph accordingly agreed to.

Paragraphs 58 to 63 read and agreed to.

Motion made, and Question put, That paragraph 64 stand part of the Report.

The Committee divided:

Ayes, 5

Ian Lavery

Albert Owen

John Robertson

Sir Robert Smith

Dr Alan Whitehead

Noes, 2

Mr Peter Lilley

Graham Stringer

Paragraph accordingly agreed to.

Paragraphs 65 and 66 read and agreed to.

Motion made, and Question put, That paragraph 67 stand part of the Report.

The Committee divided:

Ayes, 5

Ian Lavery

Albert Owen

John Robertson

Sir Robert Smith

Dr Alan Whitehead

Noes, 2

Mr Peter Lilley

Graham Stringer

Paragraph accordingly agreed to.

Paragraphs 68 to 74 read and agreed to.

Motion made, to leave out paragraph 75 and insert the following new paragraph:

In our previous report "Consumption-based emissions reporting" we recommended that the Government acknowledge that the United Kingdom's consumption is driving up territorial emissions in other countries. The increased cost of energy in this country because of the move to renewables will inevitably exacerbate this situation. The United Kingdom's and Europe's carbon footprint has increased as greenhouse gas emissions has reduced. The recognition of this does not just have "intellectual merit" it represents the perverse consequences of the United Kingdom's ambitious greenhouse gas emission reduction targets. This policy should be reviewed.—(Graham Stringer.)

Question put, That the new paragraph be read a second time.

The Committee divided:

Ayes, 2

Mr Peter Lilley

Graham Stringer

Noes, 4

Ian Lavery

John Robertson

Sir Robert Smith

Dr Alan Whitehead

Paragraph 75 read and agreed to.

Paragraphs 76 to 83 read and agreed to.

Annex and Summary agreed to.

Motion made, and Question put, That the Report be the First Report of the Committee to the House.

The Committee divided.

Ayes, 5

Ian Lavery

Albert Owen

John Robertson

Sir Robert Smith

Dr Alan Whitehead

Noes, 2

Mr Peter Lilley

Graham Stringer

Question accordingly agreed to.

Ordered, That the Chair make the Report to the House.

Ordered, That embargoed copies of the Report be made available, in accordance with the provisions of Standing Order No. 134.

[Adjourned till Tuesday 22 July at 9.15 am


 
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