Demography of Scotland and the implications for devolution Contents

Formal Minutes

Wednesday 23 November 2016

Members present:

Pete Wishart, in the Chair

Deidre Brock

Mr Christopher Chope

Margaret Ferrier

Mr Stephen Hepburn

Chris Law

Ian Murray

John Stevenson

Draft Report (Demography of Scotland and the implications for devolution), proposed by the Chair, brought up and read.

Ordered, that the draft Report be read a second time, paragraph by paragraph.

Paragraphs 1 to 16 read and agreed to.

Paragraph 17 read.

Amendment proposed, to leave out from “We agree” to end and insert “that Scotland’s growing population can be an important factor in ensuring that Scotland’s economy and society have a thriving future.”—(Mr Christopher Chope)

Question put, That the Amendment be made.

The Committee divided

Ayes, 1

Mr Christopher Chope

Noes, 3

Deidre Brock

Margaret Ferrier

Chris Law

Question accordingly negatived.

Paragraphs 18 to 26 read and agreed to.

Paragraph 27 read.

Amendment proposed, to leave out “It is clear” to “that Scotland needs.”—(Mr Christopher Chope)

Question put, That the Amendment be made.

The Committee divided

Ayes, 1

Mr Christopher Chope

Noes, 3

Deidre Brock

Margaret Ferrier

Chris Law

Question accordingly negatived.

Paragraphs 28 to 44 read and agreed to.

Paragraph 45 read.

Motion made, and Question put, That paragraph 45 stand part of the Report.

The Committee divided

Ayes, 3

Deidre Brock

Margaret Ferrier

Chris Law

Noes, 1

Mr Christopher Chope

Question accordingly agreed to.

Paragraphs 46 to 49 read and agreed to.

Paragraph 50 read.

Motion made, and Question put, That paragraph 50 stand part of the Report.

The Committee divided

Ayes, 3

Deidre Brock

Margaret Ferrier

Chris Law

Noes, 2

Mr Christopher Chope

John Stevenson

Question accordingly agreed to.

Paragraph 51 read.

Motion made, and Question put, That paragraph 51 stand part of the Report.

The Committee divided

Ayes, 3

Deidre Brock

Margaret Ferrier

Chris Law

Noes, 1

Mr Christopher Chope

Question accordingly agreed to.

Paragraphs 52 to 55 read and agreed to.

Paragraph 56 read.

Amendment proposed, to leave out from “such powers” to end and insert “We recommend that the Scottish Government should concentrate on taking responsibility for its own policy by using the powers which it already has instead of seeking to transfer responsibility to the UK Government”—(Mr Christopher Chope)

Question put, That the Amendment be made.

The Committee divided

Ayes, 2

Mr Christopher Chope

John Stevenson

Noes, 3

Deidre Brock

Margaret Ferrier

Chris Law

Question accordingly negatived.

Paragraph 57 read.

Motion made, and Question put, That paragraph 57 stand part of the Report.

The Committee divided

Ayes, 3

Deidre Brock

Margaret Ferrier

Chris Law

Noes, 1

Mr Christopher Chope

Question accordingly agreed to.

Paragraph 58 read.

Motion made, and Question put, That paragraph 58 stand part of the Report.

The Committee divided

Ayes, 3

Deidre Brock

Margaret Ferrier

Chris Law

Noes, 1

Mr Christopher Chope

Question accordingly agreed to.

Paragraph 59 read.

Motion made, and Question put, That paragraph 59 stand part of the Report.

The Committee divided

Ayes, 3

Deidre Brock

Margaret Ferrier

Chris Law

Noes, 1

Mr Christopher Chope

Question accordingly agreed to.

Paragraph 60 read.

Motion made, and Question put, That paragraph 60 stand part of the Report.

The Committee divided

Ayes, 3

Deidre Brock

Margaret Ferrier

Chris Law

Noes, 1

Mr Christopher Chope

Question accordingly agreed to.

Paragraphs 61 to 77 read and agreed to.

Paragraph 78 read.

Amendment proposed, to leave out “The Barnett formula” to end, and insert “We recommend that the Government considers introducing a needs based system of determining grants to the Scottish Government in place of the Barnett Formula so that issues such as higher relative mortality rates and the age of the population which create additional costs can be equitably taken into account.”—(Mr Christopher Chope)

Question put, That the Amendment be made.

The Committee divided

Ayes, 2

Mr Christopher Chope

John Stevenson

Noes, 3

Deidre Brock

Margaret Ferrier

Chris Law

Question accordingly negatived.

Paragraphs 79 to 82 read and agreed to.

Paragraph 83 read.

Motion made, and Question put, That paragraph 83 stand part of the Report.

The Committee divided

Ayes, 3

Deidre Brock

Margaret Ferrier

Chris Law

Noes, 1

Mr Christopher Chope

Question accordingly agreed to.

Paragraphs 84 to 89 read and agreed to.

Paragraph 90 read.

Motion made, and Question put, That paragraph 90 stand part of the Report.

The Committee divided

Ayes, 3

Deidre Brock

Margaret Ferrier

Chris Law

Noes, 1

Mr Christopher Chope

Question accordingly agreed to.

Paragraph 91 read.

Motion made, and Question put, That paragraph 91 stand part of the Report.

The Committee divided

Ayes, 3

Deidre Brock

Margaret Ferrier

Chris Law

Noes, 1

Mr Christopher Chope

Question accordingly agreed to.

Paragraphs 92 to 108 read and agreed to.

Resolved, That the Report, be the Second Report of the Committee to the House.

Ordered, That the Chair make the Report to the House.

Ordered, That embargoed copies of the Report be made available (Standing Order No. 134)

[Adjourned till Wednesday 30 November at 2.00pm





28 November 2016