Joint Committee on the Draft Charities Bill Minutes of Evidence


Draft Amendment: Clause 20

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    "(7)  The Commission shall,

      (a)  in giving an opinion or advice under subsection (1) above, or  

      (b)  in giving advice or guidance under subsection (5) above,

      make clear the extent, if any, to which that opinion, advice or guidance is to be taken by the recipient as legally binding."

  8.  Given the CC's greater regulatory and advisory powers, ACF believes that appeals to the Tribunal (Clause 6) should be allowed on any action of the CC, not just the specific areas outlined in the Bill.   

THE DISCOURAGING EFFECT OF REGULATION ON NEW FOUNDATIONS

  9.  ACF has completed a three year research project into the reasons behind philanthropy. This involved a significant number of interviews with people of substantial means which resulted in a book Why the rich give. These interviews revealed that a fifth of those who had set up grant-making charities had serious reservations about one or more aspect of doing so, the majority of which were related to the burden of external regulation. More information is in Annex 2 but the main problems identified were:

    —  The bureaucracy of trust registration with the CC.

    —  The Commission's approach to investment policy, particularly for those who had endowed their trusts with shares in the companies they had created.

    —  Concern at the publicity for trusts compared to Gift Aid.

    —  Gift Aid offering tax relief without the difficulties of setting up charitable trusts.

  ACF's project has had some 100 enquiries in the past three years about setting up new grant-making charities. Most enquirers were at a very early stage of thinking about setting up a grant-making charity, and many were clearly daunted with what they heard, having been guided through the process.

RATE OF ESTABLISHMENT OF NEW FOUNDATIONS

  10.  There is very limited information available to answer this question. The CC was unable to say how many new grant-makers are registered each year. It also only records when a charity has grant-making powers, not when its main function is to use those powers. The lack of relevant statistical information is in itself a major concern. The draft Bill makes reference to one of the CC's functions being to collect and disseminate information about charities, but the CC does not appear to have a duty to do so. It is proposed that the CC is now given such a duty.

MODELS OF PHILANTHROPIC GIVING AND THEIR RECOGNITION IN THE BILL

  11.  Some current examples of philanthropic giving are:

    —  Gift Aid.

    —  CAF Charity account.

    —  Community foundations.

    —  Establishment of grant-making trusts and foundations, and additions to the resources of such charities.

    —  Gift of shares.

    —  Private company giving.

    —  Payroll giving.

    —  Corporate help in kind.

    —  Loans and investments (eg from Triodos and Charity Bank deposits).

    —  Those schemes which encourage people to invest in social businesses or socially deprived areas.

  Two further potential models are:

    —  Tax relief on life-time gifts of capital—ie getting tax relief now for a deferred grant of capital, and still enjoying the income on the capital. (This underpins major endowments in the USA).

    —  Models of giving in which the tax relief to the donor is unrelated to the mechanism used, and all tax relief goes to the donor.

  ACF believes that further philanthropic giving of this kind would be encouraged if the CC were given a philanthropic objective as suggested in paragraph 2 above.

THE PUBLIC BENEFIT TEST

  12.  ACF believes that it is right that the Bill does not contain either a definition of public benefit or specific criteria for such a test. It is best that the test be left to be determined by the common law, with the flexibility to respond to changing social circumstances which this brings. The application of the test will inevitably vary with the circumstances of each individual charity and, within the legal context, this must be a matter for the trustees of individual charities. In order to avoid undue regulatory and bureaucratic burdens for charities any such test should neither be regular nor routine (as implied by the use of "ongoing" in the question asked) unless the CC has reason to believe a charity is not operating within the legal context.

Education and Health

  13.  ACF has found no support for the suggestion that health and education be removed from the charitable sector. Quite apart from the issue of whether or not present educational and health charities should maintain their charitable status, ACF's concern is that such a move would prejudice the ability of many of its members to continue giving money to educational and health causes, since many trust deeds require their funds be spent only on other charities.

CONCLUSION

  14.  ACF is grateful for the opportunity to make these additional points to the Committee and will willingly provide any further clarification the Committee might request on the matters covered in this submission, or on other subjects where the experience of our membership could be helpful.



 
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