Joint Committee on the Draft Charities Bill Minutes of Evidence


Memorandum from Suffolk Association of Voluntary Organisations (DCH 325)

  This response has been prepared by Jonathan Moore, Chief Executive of Suffolk Association of Voluntary Organisations. SAVO works with over 2,000 of Suffolk's Voluntary and Community Groups, providing support, advice, guidance, development and information services.

  Given the short notice in being called to give evidence, the views expressed in this response are personal, but based on previous discussions, existing research data and feedback from generic training events, seminars and conferences facilitated by SAVO over the past couple of years.

  Views of local organisations:

    —  Locally most small voluntary groups and charities (approx £3,000pa or less) are indifferent to Charity Law. Many operate outside the scope of the current law and would also outside the new. Therefore no groundswell demand for change.

    —  Medium sized groups (£3,000-£50,000) would typically view the current law as a manageable burden—a large number probably not meeting the full legislative requirements. Simplification would be welcomed.

    —  Larger groups can manage the current framework, but would welcome clarification.

    —  New groups seem to invariably run into extended discussions with Charity Commission and would welcome simplicity and clarity.

QUESTION 1

Flexibility/Accountability Balance:

    —  The bill strikes a reasonable balance between—the Charity Commission will have to be able to deliver on its requirements with a firm hand on the tiller—but neither light nor too tight!

Over-regulation could be avoided by:

    —  Ensuring a light regime for £25,000 and less turnover charities.

    —  Better publicity of "Must dos" for Trustees/Managers (Build on Government's CBIF investment in infrastructure groups).

    —  Wider and broader publicity of Charity Commission and Charities Appeal Tribunal decisions.

    —  Mergers— The measures to support mergers are welcome, but should go further with positive encouragement of different forms and extents of merger. This will allow better use of available resources.

Effect on smaller voluntary run charities:

    —  Probably fairly minimal, unless more investment in communication "blissful ignorance" is likely to continue.

QUESTION 2

Improve public confidence in Charities:

    —  The local public attitude towards charities is probably that they distinguish between "local and community" organisations and the bigger nationally linked charities. Their trust and confidence in the former is stable, for the latter there is increasing scepticism.

    —  In the long term, the Bill's effect on public confidence will depend on the implementation of the law. Diligent, but fair and reasonable, implementation will probably stop the rot, possibly even improve confidence.

    —  More important is how Charities individually and collectively respond to the perceptions.

Encourage more giving and volunteering:

    —  The key area of volunteering that could be affected is Trusteeship. Clarity and simplification, limitation of personal liability and remuneration could knock down a lot of barriers.

    —  For this reason the new rules on Trusteeship remuneration are welcomed, but need to be well publicised, clear and unambiguous.

    —  The Charity Commission's power to relieve personal liability for honest and reasonable Trustees is useful, but needs to be exercised and clearly understood and promoted.

    —  Giving is very much in the hands of Charities themselves.

QUESTION 3

Charitable Purposes:

    —  The 12 charitable purposes are welcomed.

    —  Many would have liked "Culture" left in as part of one of the purpose's definitions.

    —  Future flexibility is needed to develop new charitable purposes to reflect changes in society.

Definition of Public Benefit:

    —  Public Benefit a fair test—but clarity is needed on how much previous precedents will feed into the interpretation of new law.

Fee paying schools and public benefit:

    —  Most would agree that all charities should undergo the "Public Benefit" test however long they have been established.

    —  The most practical comment received was: "Fee-paying schools are subsidising State schools; imagine the cost to the state sector if these schools closed down—thousands more pulling down on the already stretched budgets." Perhaps this saving should be seen as charity?

    —  Greater access by local communities to facilities of fee-paying schools would be welcomed and should be encouraged. The extension and accessibility of scholarships has not been raised as a benefit locally.

QUESTION 4

Charities and Public Services:

    —  The new forms of charity should help engagement of the VCS in public service delivery: Specifically: Charitable Incorporated Organisations are an important development that will be of great assistance in formation of sound, business-like new charities; Community Interest Companies (as part of another bill) will allow greater flexibility.

    —  The regulation, if implemented appropriately, will "oil the wheels" of engagement.

QUESTION 5

Likely Benefits and Costs of Draft Bill:

    —  Most groups would support clearer, simpler, better regulation, for the Charity Commission to improve its performance and responsiveness to the needs of smaller voluntary organisations—including a simple, low cost appeals process.

    —  Re-establishing full confidence in the Charity Commission should therefore be a clear benefit. The extension of Charity Commission powers are reasonable, but need to be: subject to rigorous accountability; proportionate; and open to appeal. Local groups perceive—and their interactions often confirm—the Charity Commission as a bureaucratic Gormenghast. Therefore they will welcome a more accountable and open Commission. The Appeals tribunal will be a key part of this acceptance and this needs to have as wide a remit as possible.

    —  Regulation of Commission—must act within accepted understanding of procedural fairness eg Human Rights Act.

    —  Costs of meeting regulation need to be monitored as potentially could become burdensome to small groups, if not implemented appropriately.

    —  Funding for Charity Commission—difficult to comment as costs are not widely publicised—the low level of pay for many of the officers may reflect some of the problems of the existing regime.

QUESTION 6

Trading:

    —  The inclusion of ability to trade within thresholds would considerably enhance the Charities Bill. Would have liked relaxing of trading regulations—it keeps many local treasurers awake at night!

QUESTION 7

Regulating fundraising:

    —  Support for self-regulation is needed—particularly at a very local level. Proportionality is important.

    —  Licensing for collections is a good idea, if local authorities are able to gear up and process these better than currently. There is much criticism locally of Chuggers from national charities mopping up funding for local groups, without offering local benefits and services.

    —  Promotional Ventures—This practice is not currently prevalent at a local level.

QUESTION 8

Are specific proposals workable?

    —  Registration—The lifting of the threshold to £5,000 is to be welcomed, as is maintenance of voluntary registration if wanted.

    —  Whistleblowing for Auditors this is a good provision.

    —  The new legal forms should be workable.

    —  Cy Pres Schemes—extending the ability to extend defunct purpose is to be welcomed.

GENERAL COMMENTS

    —  The Charities Bill is overwhelmingly welcomed locally, by those that have a view on the matter.

    —  Its success will be measured by improvements in the Charity Commission—its clarity, its communication, its proportionality.

    —  Therefore, the launch of a properly funded and financially accessible Charities Appeal Tribunal is important.

    —  There needs to be much better publicity and communication of practical implications of Charity Law.

    —  It would be helpful to have a better whistle-blowing process for small charities.

    —  Greater freedoms of trading should be built into the Bill.

July 2004





 
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