Joint Committee on the Draft Charities Bill Written Evidence


DCH 239 Governance Works - Supplmentary Submission

RESPONSE TO THE JOINT COMMITTEE ON THE DRAFT CHARITY FROM THE MEETING ON THE 16 JUNE 2004

Ongoing Test of Public Benefit

Whilst I would agree that the public benefit test should be an ongoing test, it is difficult to see how this could work in practice. It would seem that all charities should be required to continue to work within the agreed public benefit and required to inform the Charity Commission of any change that might impact upon this. It may be that the Charity Commission will have the power to remove bodies from the register is they fail a public benefit test applied at any time.

Education and part of health should be removed from the charitable sector and whether the Exchequer should tax or subsidise them in another way under another legislation

Overall I would agree to the removal of Education and part of health being removed from the charitable sector, although I have some fears that this might have a negative impact on organisations that were not 'selling' education or health services. However I would only agree to their removal if a way can be found to differentiate those organisations that are providing services primarily to those who can afford to pay and those more concerned with challenging disadvantage.

I am extremely concerned about how we can maintain the boundaries between business and charity. At this time there are bodies that have charitable status that are to all intents and purpose a trading entity, albeit non profit distributing and retaining all surplus for charitable purpose. However, I cannot see what separates these from a great many non profit distributing social enterprises that exist in the country and do not have charitable status.

I do not feel able to comment upon specific alternative tax regimes, but feel it must be possible, through some other mechanism, for all educational and health organisations to be able to access tax relief, in recognition of the work they do, and the relief this gives to the exchequer overall, without having charitable status.

Whether the draft bill deals adequately with the question of regulation for small and large charities - should it be the same for both.

Much attention has been given of late to the regulatory burden placed upon smaller charities. There has been a call for a 'lighter touch' in terms of compliance. There is an argument that smaller charities are more likely to be in more closely in touch with their stakeholders and therefore the measures of accountability are likely to be more constantly applied and more detailed.

This argument goes on to stress that larger charities are more likely to be more remote from their key stakeholder and funders and systems of accountability less accessible for detailed scrutiny other than by auditors.

The Charity Commission will however have to ensure that it maintains proper levels of compliance for all charities and it would seem that much of this is less about the regulations as laid down in the act, but how these are applied in practice.

I feel that overall the draft bill deals with this matter adequately but the Charity Commission must ensure that its requirements do not place an unnecessary burden upon smaller charities and are sufficiently robust to ensure that larger charities are held to be fully and openly accountable and that compliance processes ensure this.

Comments on the Unitary Board Proposals for the St Andrews Group of Hospitals.

I have not seen the detail of the Unitary Board proposed structure and therefore my comments are based only on the information contained within the submission made by the St Andrews Group of Hospitals to the Committee.

Like other corporate structures, the St Andrews proposal seeks to bring Executive members on to the board. This immediately presents a major conflict of interest. From the information presented it was not possible to determine whether there would be any differences between the powers of the non executive trustees and the executive members of the board. It was also not possible to examine any safeguards that might have been considered to ensure that the Executive members of the Board could not for example remove any of the non executive Trustees.

The advantages of having executives on the board are arguable. It is argued that in doing so, the Executive will be more involved in the detailed direction of the organisation and will share any liability. In practice, it is debatable whether this change in status will have any real impact upon the organisation' planning and management.

Once again I feel we are in danger of bending charitable rules in order to include bodies that operate between the boundaries of a trading enterprise with social purpose and a charity. Again I have very strong concerns about the impact of that this might have in the longer term upon the charitable sector. Larger charities who provide a service, could be perceived as receiving favourable tax treatment over other trading entities whilst their being no discernable differences between them in terms of overall ownership or control.

It would seem that if bodies like St Andrews were operating as a social enterprise and receiving some recognition through another tax regime, then they could adopt the governance structures that seem appropriate to them.

For the charity commission to continue to make exceptions on a case by case basis would seem extremely dangerous. One possible outcome could be a charitable sector where it becomes the norm for all large charities to have paid Trustees (whether these are Executives or non executives) and smaller charities to operate on a purely voluntary basis.

One of the main defining principles of the charitable sector that makes it one of the strongest and most accountable sectors in the world is volunteerism and this should be protected.

Rhona Howarth

Governance Works


 
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