Joint Committee on the Draft Disability Discrimination Bill Written Evidence


Memorandum from Sir Peter Large CBE (DDB 91)

1.  INTRODUCTION

  1.1  In 1977, Lord Morris, then serving as Minister for Disabled People in the House of Commons, asked me to chair the Silver Jubilee Access Committee which he established to campaign for improved access for disabled people during the Silver Jubilee celebrations. Its report, "Can Disabled People Go Where You Go?", published in 1979, noted Worrying instances of discrimination against disabled people and recommended further investigations.

  1.2  Accordingly, Lord Morris asked me to chair a successor committee, the Committee on Restrictions Against Disabled People (CORAD) "to consider the architectural and social barriers which may result in discrimination against disabled people and prevent them from making full use of facilities available to the general public; and to make recommendations."

  1.3  CORAD reported in February 1982. It recommended anti-discrimination legislation covering employment, education, the provision of goods, facilities and services, insurance, transport, property rights, occupational pension schemes, membership of associations and clubs, and civic duties and functions. CORAD also recommended a regulatory body or Commission with powers to investigate, conciliate and if necessary take legal action on individual complaints.

  1.4  It is therefore satisfying to note that many of CORAD's recommendations are featured in the Disability Discrimination Act 1995 (DDA), the DDA 1995 (Amendment) Regulations 2003, the DDA 1995 (Pensions) Regulations 2003, the Disability Rights Commission (DRC) Act 1999 and the Special Educational Needs and Disability Act 2001. When coupled with this draft Disability Discrimination Bill all these measures go a long way towards implementing CORAD's recommendations and in one or two areas, even goes beyond them.

  1.5  Many disabled people will therefore join me in warmly welcoming the current draft Disability Discrimination Bill.

  1.6  However, as might be expected, some issues appear me to remain to be tackled or are inadequately covered. These issues are examined in the following paragraphs. A summary of these issues is given in section 10 below.

2.  CLAUSE 3—ACCESSIBLE TRANSPORT

  2.1  Clause 3 is welcome in ensuring that the blanket exclusion, from Part III of the DDA, of providers of any service so far as it consists of the use of any means of transport, applies only to the provision or non-provision or suitability or unsuitability of the transport vehicles themselves.

  2.2  Clause 3 is also welcome in enabling various types of vehicle to be brought under the full provisions of Part III of the DDA at various times in various degrees.

  2.3  However, end dates of January 2012 and 2025, when, respectively, all taxis and all rail vehicles are to be accessible, leave a very great deal to be desired considering that anti-discrimination legislation was first broached by CORAD in 1982 and that the DDA was brought in in 1995.

  2.4  Unfortunately, Clause 3 will have no effect on various unnecessary acts of discrimination on aircraft and ferries even when the services are confined to the UK. I believe these various acts could be made illegal on internal, UK services alone without adversely affecting our services' international competitiveness. The Bill should include the power to effect this through regulations.

3.  CLAUSE 4—ACCESS TO THE OUTDOOR ENVIRONMENT

  3.1  Pedestrianisation schemes that do not take account of the limited mobility range of disabled people from a car, bus or train, seriously limit where disabled people can go. This limitation is steadily growing. Unfortunately, car-free housing estates now threaten to limit where some disabled people can live and further limitations threaten with the possibility of congestion charging that, without the exemptions of London's scheme, could seriously disadvantaging disabled people who depend on cars to travel beyond the confines of their homes. Disabled people are also currently sometimes barred access to nature trails and cycle routes.

  3.2  It has never been clear whether any of these issues, or anything else to do with highways, pavements or footpaths, are covered by virtue of sections 19-21 of the DDA. If they are not, it is absolutely essential to ensure that all are covered by Clause 4 of the draft Bill. Assurances that they are would be welcome.

  3.3  However, even if they are fully covered by Clause 4, because some issues associated with some of them can also be covered by sections 19-21 of the DDA, it would be appropriate to ensure that the threshold requiring reasonable adjustments should be the same in all cases. The Notes to the Bill assert that the threshold "very much less favourable" to a disabled person is intended to be comparable with that in section 21(1) in the DDA: "impossible or unreasonably difficult" for a disabled person to make use of a service. If that is so, one could ask why the wording in the two cases is not identical.

  3.4  The DRC make the same observation but go further by drawing attention to the Special Educational Needs and Disability Act 2001 and the employment sections of the DDA where the wording used is "substantial disadvantage". As lawyers are likely to give markedly different interpretations to different wording, I would strongly support the DRC's proposal to amend section 21 of the DDA and Clause 4 to refer to "substantial disadvantage".

4.  FURTHER CHANGES TO CLAUSE 4

  4.1  On CORAD it was our hope that new legislation and action by public bodies would be subject to scrutiny to ensure that, wherever possible, unnecessary discrimination against disabled people would be avoided. Some parts of Part III of the DDA do go some way towards this objective and Clauses 4 and 8 make further welcome progress towards it.

  4.2  Unfortunately, however, in addition to the shortcomings noted in section 3 above, there are two further unsatisfactory features in Clause 4 (and by association, one also in Clause 8) that mitigate against this. In my view, changes are necessary if progress Page 2 of 6 towards CORAD'S objective is not to be unduly frustrated.

  4.2.1  In section 21B, subsection (4), it is stated that: "In relation to a particular act, a person is not a public authority by virtue only of subsection (2)(a) if the nature of the act is private." I fear that there may sometimes be confusion about whether an act is private or public. Moreover, it may be that some private acts of public bodies should be subject to anti-discrimination legislation. The two examples given in the Explanatory Notes (the BBC and the Law Society in Clause 8) do not convince me of the need to exclude private acts.

  4.2.1.1  Accordingly, unless very good reasons are advanced to the contrary, I would delete, from both Clause 4 and Clause 8, the proviso that a body will not be a public authority if the nature of the act it is carrying out is private.

  4.2.2  Second and more importantly, I fear that the wording in section 21 D, subsection (5) ("Treatment or an outcome is justified under this subsection if the acts of the public authority which give rise to the treatment or outcome are a proportionate means of achieving a legitimate aim.") will virtually nullify the intentions of Clause 4. Because disabled people are never in the majority, the use of the word "proportionate" will mean that virtually any action could be justified.

  4.2.2.1  In order to avoid nullifying the potential benefits of Clauses 4, subsection (5) should be deleted.

  4.2.3  Third, I strongly support the DRC's assertion that the wording of the reasonable adjustments duty should be amended so that it is framed as an anticipatory duty owed to disabled people. Service providers are already under such a duty in Part 3 of the DDA and no public authority should be allowed to wait until a disabled person experiences barriers before they consider making reasonable adjustments. The legislative framework should require them to think in advance about the accessibility of their functions to disabled people and to continually be reviewing and improving the situation. It is well known that making systems accessible from the start is far cheaper than adapting them later. Moreover failure to anticipate the need for adjustments unfairly places the onus for progress on individual disabled people who may fail to gain any benefit.

  4.2.4  Finally it is noted that the proposed section 21D (3) allows less favourable treatment to be justified where, in the reasonable opinion of the public authority, one or more of four specified—and somewhat controversial—conditions apply. I agree with the DRC who question the appropriateness of such a justification of discrimination, particularly when it is the so-called reasonable opinion of the perpetrator of the treatment. This "subjective" standard appears to be especially inappropriate in the carrying out of public functions: disabled people need to have confidence that when a public authority treats them less favourably, it is for an objectively legitimate reason.

  4.2.4.1  The "reasonable opinion" subjective justification should be deleted.

5.  ENFORCEMENT

  5.1  The adequacy of the enforcement procedures has been questioned by the DRC despite their satisfaction with being given authority to prepare Codes of Practice for the new public sector duty and their happiness with the new powers given them to enforce specific duties upon public authorities.

  5.2  The DRC and others such as SCOPE and RNIB, however, do not believe that enforcement through the county courts (in England and Wales) and sheriff courts (in Scotland) of the new rights of access to premises, transport, private clubs and the new provisions on public functions will be effective. Citing research by the DfEE, Income Data Services, and their own, they assert that experience of enforcing rights of access to goods and services shows that the courts do not provide an effective, readily accessible forum for enforcing disabled people's rights.

  5.3  I agree with this view and would join all those who argue that enforcement of the new rights of access to premises, transport, private clubs and new provisions on public functions should be through the tribunal system rather than through county or sheriff courts.

  5.4  In addition, as an individual disabled person is so relatively powerless when confronting any public authority, it would be useful if, in any circumstance, the DRC were empowered to take up any case against a public body on behalf of a disabled individual.

6.  FURTHER POWERS FOR TRIBUNALS

  6.1  The DRC noted that in unfair dismissal cases, employment tribunals can order re-instatement or re-engagement, whereas in discrimination cases they can only recommend this. Although this is seldom satisfactorily arranged, I agree with this proposal to enhance the powers of tribunals to allow them to do this in cases of discrimination.

  6.2  I also agree with the DRC's proposal that tribunals should have the power to recommend to employers changes to their practices, when a case brought by an individual reveals clear shortcomings. This could help to ensure that employers avoid discrimination in future. The DRC explain that some tribunals do make informal recommendations to employers with this in mind, but point out that they have no formal power to do so, nor to enforce any recommendations. The Task Force proposed that where such a general recommendation for future action had been made, the DRC should have a role in enforcing it. This seems to me to be an excellent way of making progress on this issue.

7.  ADDITIONAL MEASURE ASSOCIATED WITH EMPLOYMENT DISCRIMINATION

  7.1  Substantial evidence exists to support the contention that many employers reject job applicants who disclose their disability at the application stage and before they have the chance to demonstrate their suitability for jobs at an interview. I therefore heartily agree with the DRC's recommendation that, except in very limited circumstances, the full Bill makes it unlawful to make disability-related enquiries before a job is offered.

  7.2  These limited circumstances (as set down by the DRC) are:

    —  when inviting someone for interview or to take a selection test—employers could ask if someone had a disability that might require reasonable adjustments to the selection process; and

    —  when interviewing, employers would be allowed to ask job-related questions, including if someone had a disability that might mean a reasonable adjustment would be required.

8.  DEFINITION OF DISABILITY

  8.1  The extension of the definition to cover more people with HIV, cancer or multiple sclerosis, so that more disabled people would benefit from the Act's protection is very welcome.

  8.2  However, I know that a significant number of people with mental health problems are currently not covered by the Act but who are in need of being protected by it as disabled people. Moreover, I am aware that people who have recovered from mental health problems are also discriminated against and I believe that these too should be covered by the Act.

  8.3  As there are many people who are far more expert than I am on this subject, I will leave it to others to suggest how best this gap might be filled.

9.  COVERAGE

  9.1  There are a number of positions and bodies that are also not covered by the Act and for whose inclusion the DRC argue cogently. Two groups that I think are particularly important because of their gatekeeping roles are examining bodies and standard setting agencies. Members of both groups should all be subject to the Act.

  9.2  Others include volunteers, political office-holders, school (parent) governors, governors of further and higher education institutions and lay magistrates, who are neither employees nor "statutory officeholders", as defined by the ODA.

10.  SUMMARY

  10.1  Clause 3 should be expanded to allow regulations to ban discrimination on aircraft and ferries on internal UK services.

  10.2  It should be ensured that discrimination in respect of access to town centres, car parks, roads, pavements, footpaths, nature trails and cycle routes is covered by sections 19-21 of the DDA in conjunction with Clause 4.

  10.3  Section 21 of the DDA and Clause 4 should be amended to refer to "substantial disadvantage".

  10.4  Unless very good reasons are advanced to the contrary, the proviso that a body will not be deemed a public authority if the nature of an act it is carrying is private should be deleted from both Clause 4 and Clause 8.

  10.5  In order to avoid nullifying the potential benefits of Clause 4, subsection 21 D(5) ("Treatment or an outcome is justified under this subsection if the acts of the public authority which give rise to the treatment or outcome are a proportionate means of achieving a legitimate aim.") should be deleted.

  10.6  The wording of the reasonable adjustments duty in Clause 4 should be amended so that it is framed as an anticipatory duty owed to disabled people.

  10.7  Clause 4, in Section 21D(3) allows less favourable treatment to be justified where, in the reasonable opinion of the public authority, one or more of four specified conditions applies. This "reasonable opinion" justification of discrimination should be deleted.

  10.8  Enforcement of the new rights of access to premises, transport, private clubs and new provisions on public functions should be through the tribunal system rather than through county or sheriff courts.

  10.9  The DRC should be empowered in any circumstance to take up any case against a public body on behalf of a disabled individual.

  10.10  Tribunals should be empowered to order re-instatement or re-engagement in discrimination cases.

  10.11  Tribunals should also be empowered to recommend to employers changes to their practices when a case brought by an individual reveals clear shortcomings. The DRC could usefully be involved in enforcing any such recommendation.

  10.12  Except in very limited circumstances, it should be made unlawful to make disability-related enquiries before a job is offered.

  10.13  The definition of disability needs to be expanded to cover people with mental health problems who are not currently covered by the Act but who are in need of being protected by it as disabled people.

  10.14  Examining bodies and standard setting agencies should be covered by the Act because of the gatekeeping roles of these bodies.

  10.15  The Act should also cover volunteers, political office-holders, school (parent) governors, governors of further and higher education institutions and lay magistrates, who are neither employees nor "statutory officeholders", as defined by the DDA.

11.  CONCLUSIONS

  11.1  If the Bill incorporates the changes recommended above, the Act as amended will have made excellent progress towards implementing the anti-discrimination measures first voiced by CORAD.

  11.2  For this to be achieved, however, great care needs to be taken in the redrafting of Clauses 4 and 8.

February 2004




 
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