Joint Committee On Human Rights Twelfth Report


Bills drawn to the special attention of each House

Government Bills

1 Children Bill
Date introduced to the House of Lords

Current Bill Number

Previous Reports

3 March 2004

House of Lords 35

None

Background

1.1 This is a Government Bill, introduced into the House of Lords on 3 March 2004. It received its Second Reading on 30 March 2004 and began its Committee stage on 4 May 2004. Baroness Ashton has made a statement of compatibility with Convention rights under s. 19(1)(a) of the Human Rights Act 1998. Explanatory Notes to the Bill have been published (HL Bill 35-EN). They deal with what the Government regards as the Convention issues to which the Bill gives rise at paras 208-212. The Bill was also accompanied by the publication Every Child Matters: Next Steps.

1.2 We published two relevant Reports in Session 2002-03: our Ninth Report, The Case for a Children's Commissioner for England, and our Tenth Report, The UN Convention on the Rights of the Child. In light of our extensive work on the subject matter of this Bill, we decided to go beyond an ordinary scrutiny report in relation to this Bill and, in addition, to consider the Bill in light of our earlier reports. In particular, we decided to examine carefully the proposed powers and functions of the Children's Commissioner, and to examine the extent to which the Bill has taken the steps necessary in order to give full effect to the UN Convention on the Rights of the Child in UK law. We took oral evidence from the three existing Commissioners, for Wales, Scotland and Northern Ireland, on 20 April 2004.[1]

1.3 We will publish a full report setting out the results of our consideration of the Bill in due course. Here we report on our initial consideration of the Bill and identify some key issues on which we have written to the Government.[2]

The human rights implications of the Bill

Children's Commissioner

1.4 Part 1 of the Bill provides for the establishment of a new Children's Commissioner, [3] whose general function is to promote awareness of the views and interests of children in the UK.[4] Included in what the Commissioner may do in the exercise of his or her general function are "encouraging" persons exercising functions affecting children to take account of their views and interests, "advising" the Secretary of State on the views and interests of children, and "considering or researching" the operation of complaints procedures relating to children and any other matter relating to children.[5]

1.5 The provisions of Part 1 and Schedule 1 raise a number of issues concerning the compatibility of the office which is proposed with the UK's obligations under the UN Convention on the Rights of the Child ("the CRC").

Use of the CRC as a framework

1.6 The scheme of Part 1 of the Bill gives the CRC the status of a permissible relevant consideration: something to which, under clause 2(7), the Commissioner "may have regard" in considering what constitutes the interests of children. The CRC is only to "form the backdrop of the Commissioner's work if he considers it appropriate".[6]

1.7 The Government proposes instead that the new Commissioner will work within a framework constituted by the five aspects of children's well-being set out in clause 2(3)(a)-(e), which are the five outcomes identified by children as being most important to them during the consultation carried out on the Green Paper Every Child Matters. The Government "strongly believe that the views of children rather than the rights agenda should drive the commissioner's work".[7]

1.8 On the first day of the Bill's Committee stage, the Government has agreed to amend the Bill so that the Commissioner "must" rather than "may" have regard to the CRC.[8] However, it has continued to resist including an express reference to "rights" on the face of the legislation. It also continues to insist that the CRC be fitted into the framework constituted by the five identified outcomes, rather than the other way round. We have written to the Minister for Children on this point, and draw this matter to the attention of each House.

The Commissioner's mandate

1.9 We are also concerned about the terms of the Commissioner's mandate, and the extent to which it falls short of the Government's obligations under the CRC to establish independent national human rights institutions to promote and monitor the implementation of children's rights.[9]

1.10 The functions of the Commissioner are set out in clause 2 of the Bill. A general function of "promoting awareness of the views and interests of children in the UK" appears weaker than a duty to promote, protect and monitor children's rights, or a mandate to ensure that legislation and practice is CRC-compliant. The vocabulary of "encouraging", "advising" and "considering or researching" used in clause 2(2) also appears to us to give rise to concerns about the effectiveness of these duties.

1.11 The view of the existing Commissioners was that the language defining the new Commissioner's mandate is far too weak, and contrasts with the much more robust duties placed on the other Commissioners, which require them to be more proactive in promoting, safeguarding and keeping under review.[10]

1.12 The Bill as drafted concentrates on the procedural aspects—that is promoting the views of and interests of children as something to be taken into account in the policy process. In our report last year we envisaged that the Commissioner should be given a much more substantive role.[11]

1.13 We have written to the Minister seeking an explanation of why the Commissioner is not to be given more strongly worded duties, and we draw this matter to the attention of each House.

The Commissioner's powers

1.14 The existing Commissioners drew attention to what they considered were significant omissions in the powers proposed to be given to the new office. These were—

1.15 We have written to the Minister asking for the government's justification for not giving these powers to the Commissioner, and we draw these matters to the attention of each House.

Independence

1.16 We are concerned that the new Commissioner falls short of the CRC requirements in the degree of his or her independence from the Secretary of State. This is manifested in a number of ways:

1.17 All of the existing Commissioners considered that the lack of independence from the Secretary of State, or the appearance of it in the case of the renewability of the appointment, would undermine the effectiveness of the new Commissioner in the discharge of his or her functions.

1.18 We have written to the Minister also for the government's justification for not making the Commissioner truly independent of the Government in these various respects, and we draw these matters to the attention of each House.

Children's Services

1.19 Part 2 of the Bill makes provision for the better integration, planning, commissioning and delivery of children's services. Although this is not mentioned in the relevant part of the Explanatory Notes, this part of the Bill engages the important positive obligations owed to children under Articles 2, 3 and 8 ECHR, to take positive steps to protect their lives, to protect them from inhuman and degrading treatment, and to protect their physical integrity.

1.20 The duties in Part 2 are couched in similar language to that used in Part 1. We have written to the Minister seeking an explanation of the wording of the duties in clauses 6 and 7, and we draw this matter to the attention of each House.

1.21 Finally in relation to Part 2, the list of "partners" in clause 6(3) and the lists in clause 7(1) and 9(3) omits any organisations working with the children of refugees and asylum seekers. It appears from the Minister's speech at Second Reading that this is a deliberate omission, and that the Government is relying on its reservation to the CRC. However, the omission of this particular group of children from the institutional arrangements designed to fulfil the State's positive obligations to children under Articles 2, 3 and 8 raises the question of whether this gives rise to unjustifiable discrimination in the enjoyment of Convention rights. We have written to the Minister seeking the government's justification for this omission from the Bill, and we draw this matter to the attention of each House.

Information Sharing (Clauses 8 and 23)

1.22 Clause 8 provides for the creation of databases containing information in respect of persons to whom arrangements under clauses 6 or 7 of the Bill, and s. 175 Education Act 2002,[12] relate. The Secretary of State is given power either to require children's services authorities to establish and operate such databases[13] or to establish and operate one or more such databases him or herself, or make arrangements for doing so,[14] including by establishing a body corporate to establish and operate such databases.[15]

1.23 Clause 8(3) gives the Secretary of State power to make regulations to make provision in relation to the establishment and operation of any such databases, including (clause 8(4)):

  • as to the information which may or must be contained in such database, including information as to services provided to, or activities carried out in relation to, the child or young person, and information as to the existence of any cause for concern in relation to them;[16]
  • permitting or requiring the disclosure of information for inclusion in such database;
  • permitting or requiring the onward disclosure of information included in such database;
  • permitting or requiring any person to be given access to such database to add to or read the information.

1.24 The regulations may also provide that anything which may or must be done under the regulations must or may be done notwithstanding any rule of common law which prohibits or restricts the disclosure of information.[17]

1.25 The Secretary of State is given power to issue guidance and directions to any person or body establishing or operating such a database, who is under an obligation to comply .[18] Such guidance and directions can include the conditions on which access must or may be given to a database.[19]

1.26 From a human rights perspective, it is an important part of the State's positive obligation to secure Convention rights to all those within its jurisdiction that its laws facilitate the sharing of information about individuals to the extent that this is necessary to protect their Convention rights (including where necessary against interference by other individuals). Some provision in national law for information sharing concerning children and young people is therefore required by the positive obligations imposed by human rights law.

1.27 However, there is an important countervailing privacy interest at stake: the sharing of any personal information is an interference with Article 8 ECHR which requires justification.[20] Children prima facie enjoy the benefit of the protection in Article 8, even though obviously the younger or more vulnerable the child the weightier is likely to be the justification for any interference with that right under Article 8(2). But the less vulnerable the child, and in particular the more mature they are, the more is likely to be required by way of justification for the interference.

1.28 The Explanatory Notes acknowledge that the creation of databases containing personal details of all children may constitute an interference with Article 8 rights, but asserts that the interference is proportionate and justified under Article 8(2).[21] No reasoning is offered to elaborate on this single sentence assertion that the interference with Article 8 is proportionate.

1.29 It is impossible for us to make any judgment about the proportionality of what will undoubtedly constitute an interference with Article 8 rights in the absence of more detail about what is proposed. We are concerned that the sheer breadth of the authority clause 8 proposes to confer on the Secretary of State to interfere with Article 8 rights, without any indication of the provision which will be made in relation to a large number of crucial questions including

  • What is the purpose of keeping the information in the proposed databases?
  • Whose personal information will be able to be included on the database?
  • What kind of information will be included on the database?
  • What is included in "information as to services provided to" a child in clause 8(5)(a)? Is this confined to specialist services provided to particularly vulnerable children, such as special educational need provision or psychiatric intervention, or does it include ordinary services such as health and education?
  • What is meant by the broad phrase "information as to activities carried out in relation to" a child in clause 8(5)(a)?
  • What is meant by "any cause for concern" in relation to a child in clause 8(5)(b)?
  • How is it proposed to confine the recording of a cause for concern to the mere existence of such a cause for concern rather than its nature?
  • In what circumstances may or must information be disclosed to those compiling the database? What will be the criteria determining when such disclosure is permitted or required?
  • In what circumstances may or must information on the database be disclosed onwards? What will be the criteria?
  • To whom will such disclosure be made?
  • Who will be given access to the database?
  • What will be the criteria for determining the level of access given to the database?
  • What sorts of conditions will it be possible to impose on access to the database, or the use of information on the database?
  • How long will data on the database be retained?
  • To whom is it proposed to delegate the Secretary of State's discretion as to what may or must be done under the regulations (clause 8(6)). Will that person be regarded as a functional public authority for the purposes of the Human Rights Act1998?
  • What is the proposed relationship between this legislation and the Data Protection Principles in the Data Protection Act 1998?

1.30 The Explanatory Notes[22] claim that clause 8 sets out "the principles that would govern information sharing using the information databases", and that the regulations will deal with "detailed operational requirements". In fact, clause 8 contains very few "principles" which would regulate the use of the proposed databases. Virtually all of the key questions which must be asked in order to assess for compatibility with Article 8 ECHR are left unanswered, to be dealt with in the regulations.

1.31 We have written to the Minister asking what the justification is for not dealing with the details of the proposed database in primary legislation, and for answers to the above questions. We draw this matter to the attention of each House.

Reasonable chastisement defence

1.32 In our Report on the UN Convention on the Rights of the Child, the Committee concluded, after taking evidence on the issue and careful consideration of the arguments, that the failure to replace or repeal the defence of reasonable chastisement was incompatible with the UK's obligations under the CRC.[23] The Bill does not include any provision abolishing the defence of reasonable chastisement. However, the Government has indicated that it is prepared to give careful consideration to any amendment brought forward on this issue and to consider allowing a free vote at the relevant stage of the Bill.[24] The Government's stated concern is that it does not want to interfere with the right of parents to punish their children appropriately, and it has said that it will not support any amendment which constitutes a ban on smacking children.

1.33 We are concerned that the failure to remove the reasonable chastisement defence is in breach of the UK's obligation under Article 46 ECHR to abide by final judgments of the European Court of Human Rights. The decision in A v UK gives rise to an obligation on the UK to adopt general measures to prevent a repetition of the violation found in that case.

1.34 We have written to the DPP to ask if it his view that minor cases of smacking would not be prosecuted because they would not satisfy the public interest test.[25] We have also asked the Minister for the justification for not including in the Bill a short provision simply abolishing the common law defence of reasonable chastisement, in the interests both of legal certainty and of complying with the Strasbourg judgment in A v UK. We draw this matter to the attention of each House.

1.35 We will report further on the Bill in the light of the Government's response to the questions set out above.


1   Minutes of Evidence, 20 April 2004, HC 537-i Back

2   See letter from the Chair, Appendix 1a Back

3   Cl. 1(1) Back

4   Cl. 2(1) Back

5   Cl. 2(2) Back

6   Baroness Ashton, HL Deb., 30 March 2004, cols. 1302-3 (emphasis added). Back

7   Ibid at col. 1303 Back

8   HL Deb., 4 May 2004, col. 1060 Back

9   UN Committee on the Rights of the Child General Comment 2 (2002), The Role of Independent National Human Rights Institutions in the Protection and Promotion of the Rights of the Child, 15 November 2002, explaining the scope of the obligation under Article 4 CRC to "undertake all appropriate legislative, administrative and other measures for the implementation of the rights recognised in the present Convention." Back

10   Minutes of Evidence, 20 April 2004, HC 537-i, QQ 26-29 Back

11   Tenth Report of Session 2002-03, The UN Convention on the Rights of the Child, HL Paper 117, HC 81, at para. 25 Back

12   Duty on LEAs and governing bodies of maintained schools to make arrangements for ensuring that their respective functions are exercised with a view to safeguarding and promoting the welfare of children. Back

13   Cl. 8(1)(a) Back

14   Cl. 8(1)(b) Back

15   Cl. 8(2).Cl. 23 confers a similar power on the National Assembly for Wales, subject to Assembly procedures. Back

16   Cl. 8(5) Back

17   Cl. 8 (7) Back

18   Cl. 8(8) Back

19   Cl. 8(9)(a) Back

20   See e.g. M.S. v Sweden (1997) EHRR; R (Robertson) v City of Wakefield MC [2002] 2 WLR 889 (disclosure of details on the electoral roll). Back

21   EN para. 209 Back

22   Para. 51 Back

23   Tenth Report of Session 2002-03, The UN Convention on the Rights of the Child, HL Paper 117, HC 81 at paras 94-111. Back

24   Baroness Ashton, HL Deb 30 March 2004, col. 1308 Back

25   See Appendix 1b Back


 
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