APPENDIX 6: REPORT ON THE ONLINE CONSULTATION
1. In June 2007, the Joint Committee launched
an online consultation as part of its inquiry into the Draft Human
Tissue and Embryos Bill. The online consultation lasted for 15
days (from 11 to 26 June 2007) and invited responses to four specific
questions:
- Who do you think should take decisions
about the use of embryos in fertility treatmentParliament,
the Regulatory Authority, or individual doctors in consultation
with their patients?
- Do you think that sex selection of embryos should
be allowed for family balancing purposes?
- Do you think that Parliament should legislate
to allow the Regulatory Authority to take all decisions about
licensing research into inter-species embryos?
- Who do you think should take decisions about
the use of embryos in researchParliament, the Regulatory
Authority, or research scientists?
2. This paper summarises the public response
to the online consultation. Individual responses can be viewed
at http://forums.parliament.uk/human-tissue-bill/index.php?index,1
3. A total of 153 responses to the four questions
were posted and accepted onto the website. Many people posted
responses to all four of the questions, while others selected
to respond to one or two. In all, the four discussion topics were
viewed 1777 times during the 15 days they were open for comment.
The question "Do you think that Parliament should legislate
to allow the Regulatory Authority to take all decisions about
licensing research into inter-species embryos?" received
the greatest number of comments (42) and was viewed the most number
of times (566).
Analysis of responses to the four questions:
Q1: "Who do you think should take decisions
about the use of embryos in fertility treatmentParliament,
the Regulatory Authority, or individual doctors in consultation
with their patients?"
4. A total of 39 comments were posted in response
to this question. The discussion topic was viewed 390 times.
5. Fifteen people (38%) considered that Parliament
should take decisions about the use of embryos in fertility treatment.
Of these, twelve strongly opposed the destruction of embryos altogether,
but considered that if any body should be responsible it ought
to be Parliament: "Research like this is unethical and so
I don't believe anyone should be taking these decisions. Certainly
though, out of the options given, Parliament should be the first".[156]
6. Of those who explained their preference for
Parliament, two considered that, given the issue's ethical dimension,
only an elected and democratically accountable body ought to take
such decisions. One contributor suggested that this issue should
be decided "in the public eye" and "accurately
reflect the will of the people at each instance, not the will
of one or the few".[157]
One person proposed that if the Government legislates on this
issue, "let's make it as hard as possible and require a full
debate in Parliament every time!"[158]
Three others supported this view by quoting it as their contribution
to the topic comment thread.
7. Two people (5%) expressed support for doctors
and patients together taking decisions about the use of embryos
in fertility treatment, albeit with the use of external regulation
or advice when required. Of these, one considered that the parents/mother
and their/ her medical adviser(s) were "far more familiar
with their personal circumstances than any legislator or quango
could be and stand to be far more affected by the outcome".
External regulation should be required only where "there
is serious possibility of harm to the resulting child or to any
third party" (not including harm to the embryo).[159]
Another suggested that "guidance derived centrally"
could be used by doctors and their patients.[160]
8. Four comments (10%) advocated a tiered approach,
involving a combination of Parliament, the Regulatory Authority
and doctors and patients. Of these, three proposed that Parliament
should decide the principles on which decisions are based and
enshrine them in law. The Regulatory Authority would have the
power to take decisions. Complex cases could be referred by doctors
to the Regulatory Authority for consideration, which could then
be referred to a Parliament/Government committee for a decision.[161]
One person suggested that Parliament should set a broad
framework for decision-making, including protection for viable
embryos, and the rest should be determined by patients and doctors;
and in addition proposed that the HFEA be abolished or over-hauled
to adopt a more patient and embryo-friendly approach.[162]
9. Four contributors (10%) specifically objected
to doctors being given responsibility for taking decisions on
the use of embryos in fertility treatment. One contributor said
that as a medical doctor himself, he did "not want to shoulder
this responsibility".[163]
Others suggested that individual doctors have "no more expertise
in moral decision making than anyone else", and that the
"wider implications of these decisions are too big to be
left to parents and doctors with vested interests".[164]
10. No contributors advocated that the Regulatory
Authority alone should be responsible for taking decisions on
this issue. Five people specifically objected to this idea (13%).
Their reasons for doing so included the suggestion that the Regulator
is not sufficiently accountable and that an unelected body should
never take such decisions.[165]
A medical doctor expressed "grave concerns" about the
people appointed to bodies such as the HFEA and did not want them
to have more power.[166]
11. One contributor proposed that a referendum
be called to allow the public to decide on the issue.[167]
12. Ten comments (26%) on this topic objected
altogether to the premise that embryos be destroyed to aid fertility
treatment. They therefore did not address who should take decisions
about its use.
Q2: "Do you think that sex selection of embryos
should be allowed for family balancing purposes?"
13. A total of 40 comments were posted in response
to this question. The discussion was viewed 520 times.
14. 39 of the 40 contributors (98%) agreed that
there should remain a prohibition on the selection of embryos
for a particular sex for family balancing purposes.
15. Only one contributor (2%) did not state outright
opposition to the idea, suggesting that the "onus rests on
those of us who would ban others to demonstrate some real harm
that would result from their choices". He/she proposed that
most people in the UK would have no interest in determining the
sex of their children and that an outright ban at this stage would
be disproportionate to any credible prospect of population distortion.
If this did result, remedial action could then be taken to limit
sex selection. While she/he expressed "personal distaste
for such choices
I am far from convinced that I have any
right to deny them to other people".[168]
16. Of those who considered that the ban should
remain, nine (23%) objected to sex selection on the grounds of
sex discrimination:
"discrimination of one sex over another should
be as illegal in family balancing as it is in employment law".[169]
"sex selection is a euphemism for boy selection."[170]
17. Eight people (20%) considered that sex selection
could lead to a population imbalance. Several made reference to
sex selection practices in India and China, which they considered
had led to a "disastrous"[171]
and "devastating"[172]
population imbalance in favour of male children. One person questioned
what was meant by 'family balancing': "what is unbalanced
about having all boys or all girls?"[173]
18. Seven people (18%) objected to sex selection
on the basis that killing any embryo is fundamentally wrong. An
additional seven also objected on the grounds that every child's
life is worthwhile. Two people (5%) raised objections that to
allow sex selection for family balancing purposes was to treat
children as "commodities", to be selected or disregarded
for the parents' convenience and that this would not be in the
best interests of the child.[174]
Two people considered sex selection to be against God's will.
19. Three contributors (8%) raised concerns that
the introduction of sex selection could be the "thin end
of the wedge", which may lead to the creation of "designer
babies", selection on the basis of hair or eye colour, and
going down the "route of eugenics".[175]
Another noted that there "are far too many unforeseeable
dangers in allowing sex selection", including for instance
increasing the numbers of certain sex-linked congenital abnormalities.[176]
Two people (5%) expressed opposition to the practice as a whole
and considered sex selection on the basis of family balancing
to be a particularly "trivial" purpose.[177]
Q3: "Do you think that Parliament should
legislate to allow the Regulatory Authority to take all decisions
about licensing research into inter-species embryos?"
20. This question received the highest number
of comments and views. A total of 42 comments were posted and
the topic was viewed 566 times.
21. The Chairman's introduction to the topic
explained the Government's change in position to allow certain
inter-species entities to be created for research purposes under
licence by the Regulatory Authority, within the existing 14 day
limit. He asked for views about whether people supported the Science
and Technology Committee in recommending that Parliament should
legislate to allow the Regulatory Authority to take all decision
about licensing research into inter-species embryos.
22. Only one person (2%) proposed that the Regulatory
Authority should license the research of inter-species embryos,
suggesting that "it is much better that such research is
governed by a Regulator than by a series of 'sticking plaster'
legislation which may either impede proper necessary and beneficial
research or allow loopholes and therefore potentially rogue experiments".
The contributor considered the UK to have responsibly regulated
human embryo research, compared for instance to the US, and that
UK regulation under legislative control works well and responsibly.
[178]
23. One contributor, though expressing objections
to the idea of inter-species hybridisation, proposed a role both
for Parliament and the Regulatory Authority. He suggested that
Parliament legislate to prevent the creation of human embryos
for any purpose other than creating a human life. The Regulatory
Authority could take decisions about the creation of "other"
embryos and hybrids and a representative and advisory group be
appointed to ensure public accountability.[179]
24. 12 people (29%) specifically objected to
the idea that the Regulatory Authority be responsible for licensing
inter-species embryos. The principal objections were the Regulator's
perceived lack of accountability and/or objectivity:
"It is difficult to escape the idea that the
regulator will in some form contain persons from, or directly
related to, interested parties, be they scientists, particular
laboratories, or commercial entities."[180]
"Scientists cannot self-regulate; they are too
close to the subject to take a balanced view".[181]
"The regulatory bodies have not proved themselves
to be independent and this sort of authority cannot be passed
to an unelected, unrepresentative body."[182]
25. A researcher in embryology wrote that the
regulation of research is extremely burdensome to researchers
and slows progress dramatically. The submission considered that
the Regulatory Authority should not have the right to regulate
on all aspects of interspecies embryo research. He/she advocated
that total or partial hybrids and chimeras be banned by Parliament
to ease the burden of regulation. The local research ethics committee
(LREC) system could have a greater role and the Regulatory role
be reduced to a legal oversight/LREC advisory function.[183]
26. Three contributors (7%) considered that Parliament
should have a direct role in making decisions in this area, without
delegating to the Regulatory Authority. Their reasons included
the need for accountability through an elected decision-making
body and the wish that Parliament retain control of the Regulatory
Authority to ensure that all decisions are ethical.[184]
27. Four people (10%) considered that Parliament's
role should be to legislate against the creation of hybrid embryos
altogether.[185]
28. A total of 38 of the 42 comments (90%) raised
objections to the creation of hybrid embryos altogether. Several
did so on the basis of religious, ethical or moral convictions,
regarding it as "contrary to human dignity"[186],
"wrong and unethical" to use human embryos as a "means
to an end"[187],
or attempting to "play God"[188].
29. Two suggested that creating human/animal
hybrids went against the Warnock Review principle that the human
embryo should be afforded special status.[189]
Eight contributors considered the creation of hybrid embryos unnecessary
for research purposes:
"why is hybridisation necessary for research
when there is evidence now that an ethical source of stem cells,
adult stem cells, have been utilised successfully in treatments?"[190]
"Animal/human hybrid embryos are alleged to
be needed to conduct embryonic stem cell research but adult stem
cell research has far greater potential to create useful therapies
and is ethically sound."[191]
30. A research scientist considered it "disingenuous
to imply that hybrid embryos are required or even desirable for
stem cell research. Adult cells have proved much more versatile
experimentally".[192]
31. One contributor suggested that changes were
being rushed through "with great haste and virtually no public
awareness" and considered that such important issues should
have been fully and publicly debated.[193]
Q4: "Who do you think should take decisions
about the use of embryos in researchParliament, the Regulatory
Authority, or research scientists?"
32. A total of 32 comments were posted in response
to this question. It was viewed 301 times.
33. Twenty people (62%) considered that Parliament
should take decisions about the use of embryos in research. Seven
of these added that Parliament's decision should be to ban outright
such research. Contributors described Parliament to be the most
appropriate body because it is elected, accountable and impartial,
"responsible to the nation" and decisions in this area
ought to "accurately reflect the will of the people at each
instance".[194]
34. Two people (6%) regarded the Regulatory Authority
as best placed to take decisions about the use of embryos in research,
one because it is "more sensible and practicable for the
Regulatory Authority to decide licenses on a case-by-case basis".[195]
However, six people (19%) specifically objected to this proposal,
variously describing the Regulatory Authority as not sufficiently
open to scrutiny, not "truly competent" and already
possessing a fixed view on the intended outcome.[196]
35. No-one advocated that scientists should take
decisions about using embryos in research. Seven people (22%)
opposed this idea. Their objections were wide-ranging and included
views that:
- the decision about whether to
use embryos in research should be made separately from those who
would carry out the work;
- scientific researchers would follow their own
agenda;
- given the pressure scientists are under to produce
results the wish to undertake novel research may compromise ethical
decisions;
- scientists cannot self-regulate.[197]
36. Two people (6%) proposed holding a referendum
on the issue. Two others supported a tiered approach, whereby
Parliament establishes the principles in a legislative framework
and the Regulatory Authority has the power to take the decisions.
If a new situation arose, it could be referred back to Parliament.[198]
37. Five people (16%) had no preference about
who made the decision because they disagreed with research on
embryos altogether.
156 Cm123, 22 June Back
157
Lithgo, 22 June; Pierrekirk, 23 June Back
158
james2007, 20 June Back
159
CGavaghan, 25 June Back
160
Maoldhomhnaigh, 25 June Back
161
Mattws1, 23 June; amw67, 25 June; Back
162
Tony35, 26 June Back
163
Sam51, 26 June Back
164
John, 21 June; eh, 21 June Back
165
gsmith, 20 June; ski1966, 21 June; fhs, 26 June Back
166
Sam51, 26 June Back
167
Eh, 21 June Back
168
CGavaghan, 25 June Back
169
Pierrekirk, 23 June Back
170
Joly Hoe, 25 June Back
171
Joly Hoe, 25 June Back
172
John, 21 June Back
173
Guinevere, 26 June Back
174
Fhs, 26 June; bekt, 25 June Back
175
Reynoa00, 22 June; francois26, 22 June; john, 21 June. Back
176
Sam51, 26 June Back
177
m85, 26 June; timw, 18 June Back
178
me, 19 June Back
179
james2007, 20 June Back
180
Mattws1, 23 June Back
181
Paul john, 24 June Back
182
Jarmum, 19 June Back
183
M, 20 June Back
184
Pierrekirk, 23 June; John Paul, 24 June; Tejulyan, 22 June Back
185
James2007, 20 June; Thomas, 25 June; Sam51, 26 June; fhs, 26 June. Back
186
AD50, 22 June Back
187
AlanTheLionHeart, 15 June Back
188
Sedals55, 16 June Back
189
Jarmum, 19 June; fhs, 26 June Back
190
ethiclar,29, 15 June Back
191
Watson, 25 June Back
192
ean25, 21 June Back
193
gsmith, 20 June Back
194
SimonCooper, 21 June; de123, 23 June; Pierrekirk, 23 June Back
195
Rd121, 14 June Back
196
Rd121, 14 June; SimonCooper, 21 June; francois26, 22 June; Back
197
Rd121, 14 June and amw67, 25 June; SimonCooper, 21 June; mattws1,
23 June and NB27, 23 June, paul john, 26 June. Back
198
Mattws1, 23 June; NB27, 23 June Back
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