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Council of the Law Society of Scotland

GENERAL COMMENTS

The Council of the Law Society of Scotland is the statutory regulator of solicitors in Scotland. In terms of section 1 of the Solicitors (Scotland) Act 1980 the Council has the objects of the promotion of the Solicitors' profession in Scotland and the promotion of the interests of the public in relation to that profession. Accordingly the Council is concerned to contribute to the process of legal and constitutional change and to monitor legal developments.

The Council has considered the White Paper entitled "House of Lords Reform Draft Bill". The Council has the following comments to make:-

INTRODUCTION

The Council takes the view that many aspects of the reform of Parliament and in particular reform of the composition, role and powers of the House of Lords are political issues on which Council cannot have a view.

However there are some considerations which ought to be taken into account when proposing reform of the House of Lords. In particular, there are many aspects of the work of the House which should be preserved and not affected by reform.

THE BASIC MODEL

The Council is of the view that the present bicameral system works reasonably well. It ensures that the unwritten UK constitution is provided with a system of checks and balances.

The White Paper "House of Lords Reform" (Cmnd 3799) published in 1968 stated there were seven functions of the House:

i)  its appellate role (abolished by the Constitutional Reform Act 2005);

ii)  its role a forum for debate;

iii)  its revising role in relation to Commons' bills;

iv)  its initiating role in relation to legislation;

v)  dealing with subordinate legislation;

vi)  scrutiny of the executive; and

vii)  the scrutiny of private legislation.

Reform of the House has been debated recently through a number of White Papers and consultations and legislative debate.

The White Paper "Modernising Parliament—Reforming the House of Lords" (Cm 4183) analysed the role of the House of Lords as being legislative, deliberative, interrogative and judicial.

The Royal Commission Report, A House for the Future (Cm. 4534) published in January 2000, proposed that the House should basically be a revising and advisory chamber intended to complement but not to undermine the House of Commons. It proposed that the House should be a majority appointed House, with a statutory Appointments Commission answerable to the House; and responsible for nominating all appointed members of the House, including those from the political parties.

The Government White Paper, The House of Lords—Completing the Reform, (Cm 5291) published in November 2001. The White Paper endorses the Royal Commission's vision of the role and importance of second chamber and accepts broad framework on membership. In particular, it accepts that the House should continue to be 80% appointed and that the Appointments Commission should be moved on to a statutory basis.

Furthermore, the House of Lords Act 1999 provided for the removal of the sitting and voting rights of the majority of hereditary Peers and established a mechanism for retaining 90 hereditary Peers through a process of election. In May 2006, the Government supported the establishment of a Joint Committee to examine the conventions governing the relationship between the two Houses of Parliament. The then Government also set up cross-party talks on House of Lords reform. The consensus reached in these talks was reflected in the White Paper published in February 2007 [The House of Lords: Reform. The Stationery Office. (2007) (Cm 7027)].

Although other legislatures in the context particularly of written constitutions can operate within a unicameral framework and fulfil many of these functions other structures and procedures are invariably constructed around the single chamber in such constitutions such as presidents or heads of state with powers to reject legislation and constitutional courts with extensive powers to nullify legislation. Single chamber legislatures may also need far reaching pre-legislative consultation procedures.

The arrangements under the Scotland Act 1998 and the Constitutional Reform Act 2003, giving a role to the United Kingdom Supreme Court and under the Scottish Parliamentary procedures for a consultative and investigative role for Parliamentary Committees reflect the need to supplement a unicameral legislature by creating processes to ensure adequate scrutiny of legislative proposals and enacted legislation.

Given that there would be a need for alternative structures in any case the Council takes the view that the existing bicameral nature of Parliament should remain.

The Council is of the view that the House of Lords fulfils a useful function in assisting the House of Commons to hold the Executive to account. The House of Lords given its non elected basis is necessarily the subordinate partner in this enterprise. That does not imply that the House does not have an important role to play. The very fact that the House is not subject to the same political pressures which apply in the House of Commons means that a more dispassionate view can be taken of the actions of the Executive. Time can be allowed for the raising of issues which could be lost in a House of Commons setting and the expertise of Peers can be directed into areas of the Executive's activity which may not receive similar scrutiny in the House of Commons.

The Council notes that the Government intends to retain the name "House of Lords" at least for pre-legislative purposes.

In the Council's view there is no particular concern about the name of any reformed chamber. Suggestions such as "Senate" or "Legislative Council" are well known but carry certain historical and constitutional inferences which may not be entirely appropriate for the reformed chamber. "Second Chamber" or " Upper House" may be more reflective of the nature of the reformed body. On the other hand, some may consider that the retention of the existing name emphasises historical continuity and signifies elements of the development of the constitution and democracy in this country.

ROLES AND FUNCTIONS

Legislation

The House of Lords is a valuable revising chamber but there are factors which inhibit its capabilities. Some of these relate to its composition, others stem from the constraints put on the House and the provisions of the Parliament Acts. It is these latter issues on which the Council to concentrate.

The Council has had many experiences with legislation which has been substantially amended during the course of its passage through the House of Lords. Sometimes amendments proposed by the Opposition or by Cross bench Peers have had success in the House of Lords which they did not enjoy in the House of Commons. Frequently the Government takes advantage of the opportunity presented by the passage of the bill in the House of Lords to make changes either as a result of further consultation or political reassessment. The locus poenitentiae, or chance to think again, which the House of Lords provides in relation to legislation should not be underestimated. It is very useful for all parties.

When bills are introduced in the House of Lords they frequently undergo a process of debate and examination which is informed and productive. Improving amendments especially to law reform bills are a feature of Lords scrutiny. The Council has been involved in many such measures by suggesting amendments and commenting on bills. Even if amendments are not achieved in the House, Ministerial statements which could be employed for the purposes of interpreting legislation in terms of Pepper v Hart [1993] A.C. 593 can be extracted in debate. This can be as useful as securing amendments.

However Peers are hampered in this work by a general lack of resources. Inadequate, crowded accommodation and insufficient support, barely offset by helpful library staff, restrict the ability of Peers to contribute to debates. The efficiency of the chamber would be dramatically improved if more resources including adequate meeting rooms, up-to-date communications facilities, such as e-mail and internet access and improved secretarial facilities were more widely available. In this connection, Clause 59 of the draft bill makes provision for the House of Lords allowances scheme. If properly established and funded this will enhance the ability of peers to contribute to the work of the House. However, if the current limitations continue to impair the House's efficiency in an environment where not all Peers who are entitled to attend do so, the problem will only be exacerbated in a reformed chamber where attendance is increased.

The Parliament Acts constrain the powers of the House of Lords. Under this legislation the Lords must pass without amendment any bill certified by the Speaker as a money bill within one month of its being sent to the Lords. Money bills are those which seek to raise taxes, impose charges on the Consolidated Fund, supply, deal with appropriation, receipt, custody, issue or audit of public accounts, or the raising or guarantee of loans. Money bills do not include those relating to local taxation. The Lords only has power to delay other bills except those to which the Parliament Acts do not apply, for example a bill to extend the maximum duration of Parliament beyond five years, local and private legislation and public bills which confirm provisional orders. The Parliament Act procedures have only been used sparingly since their enactment principally because the Lords accept the democratic mandate which the House of Commons hold.

The Council is of the view that the role of the House of Lords in relation to primary legislation is a necessary aspect of parliamentary scrutiny.

In relation to secondary legislation the Council is of the view that an enhanced role for the House could include operating as a clearing house for Orders in Council, regulations and other forms of delegated legislation. It should be possible to amend secondary legislation. At present secondary legislation cannot be amended, it can only be approved or rejected. Due to constraints imposed by convention rejection is very rare and there is consequently little that can be done to change subordinate legislation once it is introduced. The creation of procedures to allow the amendment of subordinate legislation should be considered.

Scrutiny

The Council is of the view that the House's role in scrutiny of the Executive is a most important one. The substantial expertise of Peers ensures that the debates in the House are of high quality and recognised authority. Any change in the functions of the House should preserve this quality. For example, the work done by House of Lords Select Committees or Joint Committees is distinct from that carried out by House of Commons Committees. Because House of Lords Committees are not identified with the work of particular Government departments these committees can take more strategic overviews and comment on strategic issues.

The House plays a substantial part in holding Ministers to account. The Council supports the existing framework where Government departments are represented in the House and where Ministers can be questioned both in the Chamber and in Committee. If the existing procedures continue there would be no need for Ministers in the House of Commons to be able or to be required to attend to answer questions.

The revised chamber could take a more active role in dealing with EU policy and legislation. A structure which could allow liaison between the House and the EU Commission and EU officials would be particularly useful especially given the need for early representations to be made if EU proposals are to be affected. This is especially important following the Treaty on European Union's role for national legislatures. A liaison group between the House and MEPs would also serve to maximise the contribution of the revised chamber. The Council does not believe however that a structure which would give MEPs a specific role in the revised chamber would be appropriate.

The revised chamber could also enter into bilateral or multilateral relations with the Upper Chambers of other EU Member States. The pooling of common experience and the resultant exchange of views could improve the efficiency of the House especially in relation to EU law and policy.

The revised chamber could also enhance its role in relation to other aspects of international law. Special attention could be given to World Trade Organisation matters or to proposed treaties which could result in new international obligations for the UK.

Finally, the revised chamber could assume a liaison with the structures of devolved government to ensure the free flow of information between Westminster and the Scottish Parliament, the National Assembly for Wales and the Northern Ireland Assembly.

It should not be forgotten that the United Kingdom Parliament still has important legislative functions in relation to Scotland in the context of UK legislation on reserved areas under the Scotland Act 1998 (and will continue to do so in the context of the current Scotland Bill). The revised chamber will therefore have to continue to be aware of developments in Scotland and will have to take account of Scottish interests when legislating on reserved areas. Adequate arrangements will be needed to ensure that there are sufficient Peers from Scotland in attendance in the House. Consideration will also have to be given to the proper resourcing of these Peers (see the comments at Clause 59 of the draft Bill above).

Powers

The Council is of the view that any change to the House should have as one of its aims legislation which is clear and which gives prominence to the House of Commons as the elected chamber. If the second chamber were to be given a greater degree of democratic legitimacy it would be necessary to review the relationship between the two Houses of Parliament. In particular the Salisbury Convention would require to be revisited. At the very least it should be committed to legislative form. It may be that reducing the time by which the second chamber can delay primary legislation under the Parliament Acts would be sufficient to signify the prominence of the House of Commons. However extending the advantages of the Parliament Acts to government bills which have begun in the Lords could convey the impression that such measures are of equal importance to the government of the day as those which are introduced in the Commons. This could be a recipe for confrontation between the Houses.

Composition

The issue of composition of the House of Lords is essentially a political matter. However it is possible to agree with the broad range of characteristics which members of the reformed chamber could exhibit as follows:-

  • greater democratic legitimacy, but not to the extent that the Chamber could challenge the pre-eminence of the House of Commons;
  • a greater degree of independence of the Executive and of political parties than the House of Commons;
  • a non-partisan approach;
  • recognised expertise in a range of areas;
  • breadth of experience, involving at least a proportion of people who are not professional politicians;
  • a long-term perspective;
  • being representative of the nations and regions of the UK;
  • having access to knowledge and experience of the EU;
  • legal knowledge;
  • being representative of a range of faith communities;
  • being more representative of society as a whole than the present House of Lords.

DETAILED COMMENTS ON THE DRAFT HOUSE OF LORDS REFORM BILL

Part 1—Composition of the House of Lords

The Council has no comment to make on this point as the balance between elected, appointed, spiritual, ministerial and transitional members of the House is a political issue.

Part 2—Elected Members

The Council is of the view that the term for elected members in Clause 6 may be too long. A ten year term may be more appropriate.

Part 3—Appointed Members—term

The Council is of the view that the term for appointed members in Clause 19 may be too long. A ten year term may be more appropriate.

Clause 16—The House of Lords Appointment Commission

The Commission's membership should reflect the nations and regions of the UK. A former member of the Commission should not be appointed and should not seek election to the House of Lords until five years have elapsed, since he or she was a member of the Commission.

Part 4—Lords Spiritual

The Council is of the view that provision should be made to ensure the representation of other faiths as well as the Church of England—otherwise the Council has no comment to make.

Part 5—Ministerial Members

Clause 34—Ministerial members

Clause 34(7)(e) provides the Prime Minister with the power to make an order concerning the disqualification of persons who are or have been ministerial members from being members of the House of Lords under another description. This should not be a matter for subordinate legislation but should be included in the Bill.

Part 6—Transitional Members

The Council has no comment to make.

Part 7—Disqualification

Clause 36—Disqualification from being an elected member

Clause 36(1) details the disqualification conditions. The conditions are broad but do not include conditions relating to mental Health detentions or Guardianship Orders. The Council is of the view that the conditions should be re-examined from this perspective. Clause 36(f) provides that disqualification follows if a person has been committed of a serious offence which is defined in Clause 47. There is a mismatch between the offence disqualification for membership of the Appointments Commission and this provision which should be resolved.

Clause 38—Disqualification from being an appointed member

Clause 38(1) details the disqualification conditions. The conditions are broad but do not include conditions relating to mental Health detentions or Guardianship Orders. The Council is of the view that the conditions should be re-examined from this perspective. Clause 38(f) provides that disqualification follows if a person has been committed of a serious offence which is defined in Clause 47. There is a mismatch between the offence disqualification for membership of the Appointments Commission and this provision which should be resolved.

Clause 46—Meaning of "insolvency order" etc

The Council has no comment to make.

Clause 47—Serious offence condition

The Council has no comment to make.

Clause 50—Relief from disqualification: serious offence condition

The Council does not agree with this clause. The electorate is entitled to expect that its legislators have not committed serious offences. It should not be at the discretion of the House to determine whether this ground of disqualification should be disregarded.

Clause 53—Members of the House of Lords disqualified from being MPs

The Council agrees with this clause.

Part 8—General provision about Membership

Clause 56—Expulsion and suspension

The Council is of the view that it should be a specific offence for a person to refer to him or herself as member of the House of Lords when he or she is not a member.

Clause 60—Tax status of members

The Council is of the view that this clause should take into account the prospective provisions relating to the Scottish rate of income tax contained in Clauses 28—32 of the Scotland Bill.

CONCLUSION

The House of Lords fulfils many useful functions in the United Kingdom's constitution. The process of reform will need to take account of the need for enhanced democratic accountability, the desire for greater efficiency and the changing constitutional structure of the United Kingdom.

4 October 2011


 
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