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The Earl of Lindsay: My Lords, the noble Lord, Lord Macaulay, told us how important it was to be instructed by people who deal with children. I should like to say what a pleasure it was to instruct him on this matter. As the father of five children I have had considerable dealings with them and that may be why he listened so thoughtfully to everything I said from the Dispatch Box today.

He mentioned also that the passage of this Bill would be enlightening to the detractors of this House. He may ponder on the fact that his party are generating quite a lot of detraction of this House. When we think of the contribution to this Bill from the noble Earl, Lord Mar

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and Kellie, the noble Lady, Lady Saltoun, my noble friend Lord Balfour and others, some of the plans that his party has for this Chamber would have robbed this House of that calibre of scrutiny.

I can say to the noble Lady, Lady Saltoun, that the guidelines will be published shortly—and that is "shortly" in the dictionary sense of the word rather than in the shut-out sense that is sometimes used. I am especially glad that my noble and learned friends Lord Fraser and the Lord Advocate, if not in their normal seats, are in their places. I shall not repeat what I said about them both in their absence. My noble and learned friend Lord Fraser heard the noble Lady, Lady Saltoun, give him just praise for the quality of the Bill. It is perhaps fitting that they should sit on the Bishops' Bench; their guidance in spiritual and other matters is undoubted.

I can but reiterate that this Bill is a valuable statement on children's law based on clear principles. It is designed to benefit all the children of Scotland and their families. On that basis, I commend the Bill to your Lordships.

On Question, Bill passed and returned to the Commons with amendments.

        House adjourned at twenty-six minutes before nine o'clock.

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