House of Lords Journal 231 (Session 1997-98)

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Monday 7 July 1997

The House met at half-past two o’clock.

The following Lords Spiritual and Temporal were present:

Irvine of Lairg, L.
(Lord Chancellor)

Aberdare, L.
Abinger, L.
Ackner, L.
Addington, L.
Addison, V.
Ailesbury, M.
Ailsa, M.
Alexander of Tunis, E.
Allenby of Megiddo, V.
Ampthill, L.
Anelay of St. Johns, B.
Annan, L.
Archer of Sandwell, L.
Archer of Weston-Super-Mare, L.
Ashbourne, L.
Ashley of Stoke, L.
Astor of Hever, L.
Attlee, E.
Avebury, L.
Baker of Dorking, L.
Banbury of Southam, L.
Barber, L.
Barnett, L.
Bathurst, E.
Beaumont of Whitley, L.
 Beaverbrook, L.
Belhaven and Stenton, L.
Beloff, L.
Berkeley, L.
Biddulph, L.
Birdwood, L.
Blackstone, B.
Bledisloe, V.
Blyth, L.
Boardman, L.
Boston of Faversham, L.
Bowness, L.
Boyd-Carpenter, L.
Brabazon of Tara, L.
Braine of Wheatley, L.
Brentford, V.
Bridgeman, V.
Brightman, L.
Brigstocke, B.
Broadbridge, L.
Brookes, L.
Brooks of Tremorfa, L.
Brougham and Vaux, L.
Browne-Wilkinson, L.
 Bruce of Donington, L.
Burnham, L.
Butterworth, L.
Byford, B.
Cadman, L.
Caithness, E.
Callaghan of Cardiff, L.
Calverley, L.
Campbell of Alloway, L.
Campbell of Croy, L.
Carew, L.
Carlisle, E.
Carlisle of Bucklow, L.
Carmichael of Kelvingrove, L.
Carnegy of Lour, B.
Carnock, L.
Carter, L.
Castle of Blackburn, B.
Chadlington, L.
Chandos, V.
Charteris of Amisfield, L.
Chelmsford, V.
Chesham, L.
Chichester, Bp.
Clancarty, E.
Clanwilliam, E.

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Clark of Kempston, L.
Cledwyn of Penrhos, L.
Clinton-Davis, L.
Clyde, L.
Cobbold, L.
Cockfield, L.
Cocks of Hartcliffe, L.
Coleraine, L.
Colwyn, L.
Constantine of Stanmore, L.
Courtown, E.
Coventry, Bp.
Cox, B.
Craig of Radley, L.
Craigavon, V.
Cranborne, V.
Crathorne, L.
Cross, V.
Cuckney, L.
Cullen of Ashbourne, L.
Currie of Marylebone, L.
Dacre of Glanton, L.
Darcy de Knayth, B.
David, B.
Davidson, V.
De Freyne, L.
Dean of Beswick, L.
Dean of Harptree, L.
Dean of Thornton-le-Fylde, B.
Denbigh, E.
Denham, L.
Denman, L.
Denton of Wakefield, B.
Desai, L.
Dilhorne, V.
Dixon-Smith, L.
Donaldson of Kingsbridge, L.
Donegall, M.
Dormand of Easington, L.
Downshire, M.
Drogheda, E.
Dundee, E.
Dundonald, E.
Eatwell, L.
Elis-Thomas, L.
Elles, B.
Elliott of Morpeth, L.
Elton, L.
Emerton, B.
Erroll, E.
Evans of Parkside, L.
Ewing of Kirkford, L.
Ezra, L.
Falconer of Thoroton, L.
Falkender, B.
Falkland, V.
Farrington of Ribbleton, B.
Ferrers, E.
Fitt, L.
Flather, B.
Foley, L.
Fraser of Carmyllie, L.
Freyberg, L.
Gage, V.
Gainford, L.
Gallacher, L.
Gardner of Parkes, B.
Geddes, L.
Geraint, L.
 Gilbert, L.
Gladwin of Clee, L.
Glenarthur, L.
Goschen, V.
Gould of Potternewton, B.
Gowrie, E.
Graham of Edmonton, L.
Grantchester, L.
Gray of Contin, L.
Greene of Harrow Weald, L.
Greenhill of Harrow, L.
Greenway, L.
Gregson, L.
Grenfell, L.
Grey, E.
Griffiths, L.
Hacking, L.
Halsbury, E.
Hampden, V.
Hamwee, B.
Hankey, L.
Hanworth, V.
Hardie, L.
Harding of Petherton, L.
Harris of Greenwich, L.
Haskel, L.
Hayhoe, L.
Hayman, B.
Hayter, L.
Healey, L.
Hemphill, L.
Henderson of Brompton, L.
Hesketh, L.
Hilton of Eggardon, B.
Holderness, L.
Hollis of Heigham, B.
Holme of Cheltenham, L.
HolmPatrick, L.
Hooper, B.
Hooson, L.
Hothfield, L.
Howe, E.
Howie of Troon, L.
Hoyle, L.
Hughes, L.
Hurd of Westwell, L.
Hylton-Foster, B.
Inglewood, L.
Ironside, L.
Iveagh, E.
Jauncey of Tullichettle, L.
Jay of Paddington, B.
Jeger, B.
Jenkins of Putney, L.
Johnston of Rockport, L.
Jopling, L.
Judd, L.
Kennet, L.
Kenyon, L.
Keyes, L.
Kilbracken, L.
Kingsland, L.
Kinloss, Ly.
Kinnoull, E.
Kintore, E.
Kirkhill, L.
Knollys, V.
Lauderdale, E.
 Lawrence, L.
Layton, L.
Leigh, L.
Lester of Herne Hill, L.
Lestor of Eccles, B.
Lindsay, E.
Lindsey and Abingdon, E.
Liverpool, E.
Lockwood, B.
Lofthouse of Pontefract, L.
Long, V.
Longford, E.
Lovell-Davis, L.
Lowry, L.
Lucas, L.
Lucas of Chilworth, L.
Luke, L.
Lyell, L.
McAlpine of West Green, L.
McCarthy, L.
McColl of Dulwich, L.
McConnell, L.
Macfarlane of Bearsden, L.
McFarlane of Llandaff, B.
McIntosh of Haringey, L.
Mackay of Ardbrecknish, L.
Mackay of Drumadoon, L.
Mackie of Benshie, L.
Macleod of Borve, B.
McNair, L.
McNally, L.
Mallalieu, B.
Malmesbury, E.
Mar, C.
Mar and Kellie, E.
Marlesford, L.
Marsh, L.
Mason of Barnsley, L.
Massereene and Ferrard, V.
Merlyn-Rees, L.
Merrivale, L.
Mersey, V.
Miller of Hendon, B.
Milner of Leeds, L.
Milverton, L.
Mishcon, L.
Molloy, L.
Molyneaux of Killhead, L.
Monkswell, L.
Monson, L.
Montagu of Beaulieu, L.
Moran, L.
Morris of Castle Morris, L.
Mottistone, L.
Mountevans, L.
Mowbray and Stourton, L.
Moyne, L.
Moynihan, L.
Munster, E.
Murray of Epping Forest, L.
Murton of Lindisfarne, L.
Napier and Ettrick, L.
Nathan, L.
Nelson, E.
Newall, L.
Nicol, B.
Noel-Buxton, L.
Norfolk, D.
Norrie, L.
Northesk, E.

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O’Cathain, B.
Ogmore, L.
Onslow, E.
Oppenheim-Barnes, B.
Oxfuird, V.
Palmer, L.
Park of Monmouth, B.
Parry, L.
Patten, L.
Paul, L.
Pearson of Rannoch, L.
Peel, E.
Pender, L.
Perry of Southwark, B.
Perry of Walton, L.
Peston, L.
Peyton of Yeovil, L.
Phillips of Ellesmere, L.
Pike, B.
Pilkington of Oxenford, L.
Plant of Highfield, L.
Ponsonby of Shulbrede, L.
Prys-Davies, L.
Pym, L.
Quirk, L.
Ramsay of Cartvale, B.
Rankeillour, L.
Rawlings, B.
Rawlinson of Ewell, L.
Rea, L.
Reay, L.
Redesdale, L.
Rees, L.
Rees-Mogg, L.
Rennell, L.
Renton, L.
Renwick, L.
Richard, L.
Rochester, L.
Rogers of Riverside, L.
Romney, E.
Rosslyn, E.
 Rotherwick, L.
Rowallan, L.
Russell, E.
Sainsbury, L.
Saint Albans, D.
St. Davids, V.
St. John of Bletso, L.
St. John of Fawsley, L.
Saltoun of Abernethy, Ly.
Seccombe, B.
Sefton of Garston, L.
Selborne, E.
Sempill, L.
Serota, B.
Sewel, L.
Shannon, E.
Sharples, B.
Shaughnessy, L.
Shepherd, L.
Sherfield, L.
Shore of Stepney, L.
Simon, V.
Simon of Glaisdale, L.
Simon of Highbury, L.
Skelmersdale, L.
Slim, V.
Smith of Gilmorehill, B.
Stallard, L.
Stanley of Alderley, L.
Steel of Aikwood, L.
Stewartby, L.
Stoddart of Swindon, L.
Strabolgi, L.
Strange, B.
Strathclyde, L.
Strathcona and Mount Royal, L.
Suffolk and Berkshire, E.
Swansea, L.
Swinfen, L.
Symons of Vernham Dean, B.
Tanlaw, L.
 Taverne, L.
Taylor of Blackburn, L.
Taylor of Gryfe, L.
Taylor of Warwick, L.
Tebbit, L.
Tenby, V.
Terrington, L.
Teviot, L.
Thomas of Gresford, L.
Thomas of Gwydir, L.
Tope, L.
Tordoff, L.
Trumpington, B.
Tugendhat, L.
Turner of Camden, B.
Tweeddale, M.
Ullswater, V.
Varley, L.
Vivian, L.
Waddington, L.
Wade of Chorlton, L.
Wallace of Coslany, L.
Wallace of Saltaire, L.
Warnock, B.
Waverley, V.
Weatherill, L.
Wedderburn of Charlton, L.
Wedgwood, L.
Westbury, L.
Wharton, B.
Whitty, L.
Wigoder, L.
Wilberforce, L.
Wilcox, B.
Williams of Elvel, L.
Williams of Mostyn, L.
Winston, L.
Wise, L.
Wright of Richmond, L.
Wyatt of Weeford, L.
Wynford, L.
Young, B.

PRAYERS were read by the Lord Bishop of Coventry.

Judicial Business

1.Spargo (A.P.) (Petitioner) v. North Essex Health Authority (Respondents) (lodged 24th June)—The petition of Jose Ann Spargo praying for leave to appeal was presented and referred to an Appeal Committee. The petitioner’s legal aid certificate was lodged.
2.Commissioners of Customs and Excise (Respondents) v. Redrow Group Plc (Petitioners)—The petition of Redrow Group Plc praying for leave to appeal was presented and referred to an Appeal Committee.
3.Svenska International Plc (Petitioners) v. Commissioners of Customs and Excise (Respondents)—The petition of Svenska International Plc praying for leave to appeal was presented and referred to an Appeal Committee.
4.Appeal Committee—The following Order was made pursuant to the 10th Report—

Regina v. London Borough of Harrow (Petitioners) ex parte Fahia (Respondent)—That leave to appeal be given, and that the petition of appeal be lodged by 21st July next.

Papers

5.Statutory Instruments (Standing Order 68)—The following negative Instruments, having been laid before the House on 4th July, were ordered to lie on the Table:
1.Housing (Change of Landlord) (Payment of Disposal Cost by Instalments) (Amendment) (No. 2) Regulations 1997, laid under the Housing Act 1988;
 (1621)
2.Lands Tribunal (Salaries) Order (Northern Ireland) 1997, laid under the Northern Ireland Act 1974;
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3.Grants for School Education (Early Intervention and Alternatives to Exclusion) (Scotland) Regulations 1997, laid under the Education (Scotland) Act 1980;
 (1638)
4.Local Authorities Etc. (Allowances) (Scotland) Amendment Regulations 1997, laid under the Local Government (Scotland) Act 1973.
 (1631)
6.Command Papers—The following papers were presented to the House by command of Her Majesty and ordered to lie on the Table:
1.Science and Technology—Science, Engineering and Technology Statistics 1997;
 (3695)
2.Education—Excellence in Schools: Government consultation document.
 (3681)
7.Affirmative Instruments—The following instruments were laid before the House for approval by resolution and ordered to lie on the Table:
1.Draft Commissioner for Complaints (Amendment) (Northern Ireland) Order 1997;
2.Draft Transport and Works (Guided Transport Modes) (Amendment) Order 1997;
3.Draft Local Government Act 1988 (Competition) (Defined Activities) (Scotland) Amendment Order 1997.
8.Negative Instruments—The following instruments were laid before the House and ordered to lie on the Table:
1.Education (Disability Statements for Local Education Authorities) (England) Regulations 1997, laid under the Education Act 1996;
 (1625)
2. (i)Education (Assisted Places) (Scotland) Amendment Regulations 1997—(1641)
(ii)St. Mary’s Music School (Aided Places) Amendment Regulations 1997—(1640)
 laid under the Education (Scotland) Act 1980.
9.Papers not subject to parliamentary proceedings—The following papers were laid before the House and ordered to lie on the Table:
1.Report for 1996 of the Parliamentary Ombudsman for Northern Ireland and the Northern Ireland Commissioner for Complaints, laid under the Commissioner for Complaints (Northern Ireland) Order 1996;
2.Accounts for 1996 of the HMSO Trading Fund, together with the Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General, laid under the Government Trading Funds Act 1973;
3.Accounts for 1996–97 of the Land Authority for Wales, together with the Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General, laid under the Local Government, Planning and Land Act 1980;
4.Accounts for 1996–97 of the Development Board for Rural Wales, together with the Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General, laid under the Development of Rural Wales Act 1976;
5.Accounts for 1996–97 of the Curriculum and Assessment Authority for Wales, together with the Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General, laid under the Education Reform Act 1988.

Public Business

10.Succession to the Crown—It was moved by the Lord Archer of Weston-Super-Mare that an Humble Address be presented to Her Majesty praying that Her Majesty may be graciously pleased to allow that Her undoubted Prerogative and interest may not stand in the way of the consideration by Parliament during the present session of any measure providing for the removal of any distinction between the sexes in determining the succession to the Crown; the motion was agreed to; it was ordered that the Address be presented by the Lords with White Staves.
11.Coordinated Universal Time Bill [HL]—The report was received.
12.Law Officers Bill [HL]—The bill was read a third time and passed and sent to the Commons.
13.Referendums (Scotland and Wales) Bill—The House again resolved itself into a Committee upon the bill; amendments were moved and (by leave of the Committee) withdrawn; the House was resumed for a statement; the House again resolved itself into a Committee upon the bill; further amendments were moved and (by leave of the Committee) withdrawn; the House was resumed.
14.Special Immigration Appeals Commission Bill [HL]—The report was received; amendments were agreed to; an amendment was moved and (by leave of the House) withdrawn; it was ordered that the bill be printed as amended. (HL Bill 17)

The House was adjourned during pleasure.
The House was resumed.

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15.Referendums (Scotland and Wales) Bill—The House again resolved itself into a Committee upon the bill; amendments were moved and (by leave of the Committee) withdrawn; the House was resumed and the bill was reported with an amendment; it was ordered that the bill be printed as amended. (HL Bill 18)

The House was adjourned at seven minutes before eleven o’clock
till tomorrow, half-past two o’clock.