House of Lords Journal 231 (Session 1997-98)

Previous Next Page 184 1997-98 Volume 231       Tuesday 22 July 1997 The House met at half-past two o’clock. The following Lords Spiritual and Temporal were present: Irvine of Lairg, L. (Lord Chancellor) Aberdare, L. Ackner, L. Addington, L. Addison, V. Ailesbury, M. Ailsa, M. Alderdice, L. Alexander of Tunis, E. Allenby of Megiddo, V. Alport, L. Ampthill, L. Anelay of St. Johns, B. Annaly, L. Annan, L. Archer of Sandwell, L. Archer of Weston-Super-Mare, L. Arran, E. Ashbourne, L. Ashley of Stoke, L. Astor, V. Astor of Hever, L. Attlee, E. Avebury, L. Baldwin of Bewdley, E. Balfour, E. Barber of Tewkesbury, L. Barnard, L. Barnett, L. Bath and Wells, Bp. Beaumont of Whitley, L. Belhaven and Stenton, L. Beloff, L. Berkeley, L. Biddulph, L. Birdwood, L. Blackstone, B. Blatch, B. Blease, L. Bledisloe, V. Blyth, L. Boardman, L. Borrie, L. Boston of Faversham, L. Bowness, L. Boyd-Carpenter, L. Brabazon of Tara, L. Braine of Wheatley, L. Brentford, V. Bridges, L. Brightman, L. Broadbridge, L. Brookeborough, V. Brooks of Tremorfa, L. Brougham and Vaux, L. Broughshane, L. Bruce of Donington, L. Bruntisfield, L. Burnham, L. Burton, L. Butterworth, L. Byford, B. Byron, L. Cadman, L. Callaghan of Cardiff, L. Calverley, L. Campbell of Alloway, L. Campbell of Croy, L. Carew, L. Carlisle, E. Carmichael of Kelvingrove, L. Carnegy of Lour, B. Carnock, L. Carr of Hadley, L. Carrington, L. Carter, L. Castle of Blackburn, B. Chalfont, L. Chalker of Wallasey, B. Chandos, V. Charteris of Amisfield, L. Chesham, L. Chichester, Bp. Clancarty, E. Clanwilliam, E. Clark of Kempston, L. Clinton-Davis, L. Cockfield, L. Cocks of Hartcliffe, L. Colwyn, L. Constantine of Stanmore, L. Courtown, E. Cox, B. Craig of Radley, L. Craigavon, V. Cranworth, L. Crathorne, L. Crawshaw, L. Crickhowell, L. Crook, L. Cross, V. Cuckney, L. Cullen of Ashbourne, L. Cumberlege, B. Dacre of Glanton, L. Dahrendorf, L. Darcy de Knayth, B. David, B. Davidson, V. Davies, L. Dean of Beswick, L. Dean of Harptree, L. Dean of Thornton-le-Fylde, B. Denbigh, E. Denham, L. Denman, L. Denton of Wakefield, B. Derwent, L. Desai, L. Dilhorne, V. Dixon, L. Dixon-Smith, L. Donaldson of Kingsbridge, L. Donoughue, L. Dormand of Easington, L. Downshire, M. Drogheda, E. Dunrossil, V. Eames, L. Eatwell, L. Eccles of Moulton, B. Eden of Winton, L. Effingham, E. Elis-Thomas, L. Elles, B. Elliott of Morpeth, L. Erroll, E. Evans of Parkside, L. Ewing of Kirkford, L. Ezra, L. Falconer of Thoroton, L. Falkender, B. Falkland, V. Farrington of Ribbleton, B. Ferrers, E. Fisher, L. Fisher of Rednal, B. Flather, B. Forbes, L. Fraser of Carmyllie, L. Freyberg, L. Gage, V. Gainford, L. Gainsborough, E. Gallacher, L. Gardner of Parkes, B. Geddes, L. Gilbert, L. Gillmore of Thamesfield, L. Gisborough, L. Gladwin of Clee, L. Gladwyn, L. Glasgow, E. Glenamara, L. Glenarthur, L. Glentoran, L. Goschen, V. Gould of Potternewton, B. Gowrie, E. Graham of Edmonton, L. Grantchester, L. Gray, L. Gray of Contin, L. Greenhill of Harrow, L. Greenway, L. Gregson, L. Grenfell, L. Grey, E. Page 185 1997-98 Volume 231 Back to top Grimston of Westbury, L. Hacking, L. Halsbury, E. Hampden, V. Hampton, L. Hamwee, B. Hanworth, V. Hardie, L. Harding of Petherton, L. Harlech, L. Harmar-Nicholls, L. Harmsworth, L. Harris of Greenwich, L. Harrowby, E. Haskel, L. Hayhoe, L. Hayman, B. Hayter, L. Headfort, M. Hemphill, L. Hertford, M. Hilton of Eggardon, B. Holderness, L. Hollis of Heigham, B. Holme of Cheltenham, L. HolmPatrick, L. Hooper, B. Hooson, L. Howe, E. Howell, L. Howell of Guildford, L. Howie of Troon, L. Hoyle, L. Hughes, L. Hussey of North Bradley, L. Hylton, L. Hylton-Foster, B. Ilchester, E. Inchcape, E. Inge, L. Ironside, L. Jay of Paddington, B. Jeger, B. Jenkin of Roding, L. Jenkins of Hillhead, L. Jenkins of Putney, L. Johnston of Rockport, L. Jopling, L. Kenilworth, L. Kennet, L. Kilbracken, L. Kilmarnock, L. Kilpatrick of Kincraig, L. Kingsland, L. Kinloss, Ly. Kinnoull, E. Kintore, E. Kirkhill, L. Kirkwood, L. Kitchener, E. Knollys, V. Laing of Dunphail, L. Lane, L. Lane of Horsell, L. Lauderdale, E. Lawrence, L. Lawson of Blaby, L. Leathers, V. Leicester, E. Leigh, L. Lester of Herne Hill, L. Lestor of Eccles, B. Levene, L. Lindsay, E. Lindsey and Abingdon, E. Liverpool, Bp. Lloyd of Berwick, L. Lloyd-George of Dwyfor, E. Lockwood, B. Lofthouse of Pontefract, L. Long, V. Longford, E. Lovell-Davis, L. Lowry, L. Lucas, L. Lucas of Chilworth, L. Luke, L. Lyell, L. McCarthy, L. McColl of Dulwich, L. McConnell, L. McIntosh of Haringey, L. Mackay of Ardbrecknish, L. Mackay of Drumadoon, L. Mackie of Benshie, L. Mackintosh of Halifax, V. MacLehose of Beoch, L. Macleod of Borve, B. McNair, L. McNally, L. Mallalieu, B. Mar, C. Mar and Kellie, E. Marlesford, L. Marsh, L. Masham of Ilton, B. Mason of Barnsley, L. Massereene and Ferrard, V. Mayhew of Twysden, L. Merlyn-Rees, L. Mersey, V. Miller of Hendon, B. Milner of Leeds, L. Milverton, L. Mishcon, L. Molloy, L. Molyneaux of Killhead, L. Monckton of Brenchley, V. Monkswell, L. Monson, L. Montagu of Beaulieu, L. Montgomery of Alamein, V. Moore of Lower Marsh, L. Moore of Wolvercote, L. Morris of Castle Morris, L. Mountevans, L. Mowbray and Stourton, L. Moyne, L. Moynihan, L. Munster, E. Murray of Epping Forest, L. Napier and Ettrick, L. Nathan, L. Nelson, E. Newall, L. Nicol, B. Noel-Buxton, L. Norfolk, D. Norrie, L. Northesk, E. Norton, L. O’Cathain, B. Ogmore, L. Onslow, E. Oxford, Bp. Oxfuird, V. Palmer, L. Park of Monmouth, B. Parry, L. Patten, L. Paul, L. Pearson of Rannoch, L. Peel, E. Pender, L. Perth, E. Peston, L. Peyton of Yeovil, L. Phillips of Ellesmere, L. Pike, B. Pilkington of Oxenford, L. Plant of Highfield, L. Plummer of St. Marylebone, L. Ponsonby of Shulbrede, L. Prys-Davies, L. Quirk, L. Ramsay of Cartvale, B. Rankeillour, L. Rawlings, B. Rea, L. Reay, L. Rees, L. Rees-Mogg, L. Renfrew of Kaimsthorn, L. Rennell, L. Renton, L. Renton of Mount Harry, L. Renwick, L. Richard, L. Richardson, L. Richardson of Duntisbourne, L. Ridley, V. Ritchie of Dundee, L. Robertson of Oakridge, L. Robson of Kiddington, B. Rochester, L. Rodgers of Quarry Bank, L. Rotherwick, L. Rowallan, L. Russell, E. Sainsbury, L. St. Davids, V. St. John of Bletso, L. St. John of Fawsley, L. Saltoun of Abernethy, Ly. Sandford, L. Sandwich, E. Sandys, L. Savile, L. Seccombe, B. Sefton of Garston, L. Selborne, E. Serota, B. Sewel, L. Shannon, E. Sharples, B. Shaughnessy, L. Shepherd, L. Page 186 1997-98 Volume 231 Back to top Shrewsbury, E. Shuttleworth, L. Simon, V. Simon of Highbury, L. Skelmersdale, L. Skidelsky, L. Slim, V. Smith of Gilmorehill, B. Soulsby of Swaffham Prior, L. Spens, L. Stafford, L. Stallard, L. Stanley of Alderley, L. Stewartby, L. Stodart of Leaston, L. Stoddart of Swindon, L. Strabolgi, L. Strafford, E. Strathcarron, L. Strathclyde, L. Sudeley, L. Swinfen, L. Symons of Vernham Dean, B. Taverne, L. Taylor of Blackburn, L. Taylor of Gryfe, L. Taylor of Warwick, L. Templeman, L. Terrington, L. Teviot, L. Teynham, L. Thomas of Gresford, L. Thomas of Gwydir, L. Thomas of Walliswood, B. Thomson of Monifieth, L. Thurso, V. Tombs, L. Tordoff, L. Torphichen, L. Trefgarne, L. Trumpington, B. Tugendhat, L. Turner of Camden, B. Tweeddale, M. Ullswater, V. Varley, L. Vincent of Coleshill, L. Vinson, L. Vivian, L. Waddington, L. Wade of Chorlton, L. Walker of Worcester, L. Walpole, L. Warnock, B. Waverley, V. Weatherill, L. Wedderburn of Charlton, L. Wedgwood, L. Weidenfeld, L. Weinstock, L. Westbury, L. Wharton, B. Whitelaw, V. Whitty, L. Wigoder, L. Wilberforce, L. Wilcox, B. Williams of Elvel, L. Williams of Mostyn, L. Windlesham, L. Winston, L. Wise, L. Wright of Richmond, L. Wyatt of Weeford, L. Young, B. PRAYERS were read by the Lord Bishop of Liverpool. 1. Lord Levene of Portsoken—Sir Peter Keith Levene KBE, having been created Baron Levene of Portsoken, of Portsoken in the City of London, for life by Letters Patent dated 22nd July 1997 (see appendix 1), was introduced between the Lord Weinstock and the Lord Vincent of Coleshill, the Gentleman Usher of the Black Rod and Garter King of Arms preceding; and took and subscribed the oath pursuant to statute. 2. Lord Inge—Field Marshal Sir Peter Anthony Inge GCB, having been created Baron Inge, of Richmond in the County of North Yorkshire, for life by Letters Patent dated in the forenoon of 21st July 1997 (see appendix 2), was introduced between the Lord Carrington and the Lord Vincent of Coleshill, the Gentleman Usher of the Black Rod and Garter King of Arms preceding; and took and subscribed the oath pursuant to statute. Judicial Business 3. Institute of Chartered Accountants in England and Wales (Appellants) v. Commissioners of Customs and Excise (Respondents) (England)—The appeal of the Institute of Chartered Accountants in England and Wales was presented and it was ordered that in accordance with Standing Order VI the statement and appendix thereto be lodged on or before 2nd September next; and that the appellants be allowed to prosecute the appeal without giving the usual security for costs as required by Standing Order. 4. Governor and Company of the Bank of Scotland (Respondents) v. Brunswick Developments (1987) Limited and another (Appellants) (Scotland)—The appeal of Brunswick Developments (1987) Limited and Raymond Ellis Blin was presented and it was ordered that in accordance with Standing Order VI the statement and appendix thereto be lodged on or before 2nd September next. 5. Wild (Petitioner) v. Cannavan (Her Majesty’s Inspector of Taxes) (Respondent)—The petition of Henry Wild praying for leave to appeal notwithstanding that the time limited by Standing Order II has expired was presented and referred to an Appeal Committee. 6. Regina v. Rodger and another (Petitioners)—The petition of Andrew Rodger and Keith John Rose praying for leave to appeal in accordance with the Criminal Appeal Act 1968 was presented and referred to an Appeal Committee. 7. Regina v. Secretary of State for the Home Department and another (Respondents) ex parte Franc”ois (A. P.) (Petitioner)—The petition of France Louis Franc”ois praying for an extension of time within which the petition may be lodged and for leave to appeal in accordance with the Administration of Justice Act 1960, was presented and referred to an Appeal Committee. The petitioner’s legal aid certificate was lodged. 8. Appeal Committee—The 17th Report from the Appeal Committee was agreed to and the following Orders were made— Vehicle Inspectorate (Respondents) v. Nuttall (Petitioner)—That the respondents be invited to lodge objections by 5th August next. Page 187 1997-98 Volume 231 Back to top Reckitt & Colman Products Limited (Respondents) v. Richardson-Vicks Inc. (Petitioners) and others—That the respondents be invited to lodge objections by 5th August next. Penn (Respondent) v. Bristol and West Building Society and others and Ian Brill & Co. (Petitioners)—That leave to appeal be refused; that the respondent be at liberty to apply for her costs in accordance with direction 5.1(d) and, if the application is granted, that the amount thereof be certified by the Clerk of the Parliaments if not agreed between the parties. Promet Engineering (Singapore) Limited (formerly Self-Elevating Platform Management Pte Limited) (Respondents) v. Sturge (Sued on his own behalf and on behalf of all Underwriters subscribing to Lloyd’s Policy No. R05540F, LPSO No. 55036 dated 25th December 1986) and others (Petitioners)—That leave to appeal be refused. Regina v. Selby District Council and others (Respondents) ex parte Oxton Farms and others (Petitioners)—That leave to appeal be refused; that the respondents be at liberty to apply for their costs in accordance with direction 5.1(d) and, if the application is granted, that the amount thereof be certified by the Clerk of the Parliaments if not agreed between the parties. Spectra International Plc (Respondents) v. Hayesoak Limited (Petitioners) and others—That the respondents be invited to lodge objections by 5th August next. Papers 9. Instruments withdrawn—The following instruments, laid before the House on 17th July, were withdrawn: 1. Draft Nottinghamshire Fire Services (Combination Scheme) Order 1997; 2. Draft Lancashire Fire Services (Combination Scheme) Order 1997. 10. Command Papers—The following papers were presented to the House by command of Her Majesty and ordered to lie on the Table: 1. Police—Report for 1996–97 of the Commissioner of Police of the Metropolis;   (—) 2. Wales—A Voice for Wales, the Government’s proposals for a Welsh Assembly;   (3718) 3. Education—Government Response to the 2nd Report (Session 1996–97) of the House of Commons Welsh Affairs Committee: Further Education in Wales.   (3708) 11. Papers not subject to parliamentary proceedings—The following papers were laid before the House and ordered to lie on the Table: 1. Food Protection (Emergency Prohibitions) (Paralytic Shellfish Poisoning) Order 1997 Partial Revocation Order 1997, laid under the Food and Environment Protection Act 1985;   (1739) 2. (i) Report and Accounts for 1996–97 of the National Health Service Pensions Agency— (ii) Report and Accounts for 1996–97 of the United Kingdom Passport Agency— (iii) Report and Accounts for 1996–97 of the War Pensions Agency— (iv) Report and Accounts for 1996–97 of the Information Technology Services Agency— (v) Report and Accounts for 1996–97 of the Child Support Agency— (vi) Report and Accounts for 1996–97 of the Benefits Agency— (vii) Report and Accounts for 1996–97 of the Contributions Agency— (viii) Report and Accounts for 1996–97 of the Veterinary Medicines Directorate— (ix) Report and Accounts for 1996–97 of the Service Children’s Education Agency of the Ministry of Defence—   laid under the Exchequer and Audit Departments Act 1921; 3. Report and Accounts for 1996–97 of the Welsh Language Board, laid under the Welsh Language Act 1993; 4. (i) Report and Accounts for 1996–97 of the Wales Tourist Board— (ii) Report and Accounts for 1996–97 of the English Tourist Board, together with the Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General— (iii) Report for 1997 of the English Tourist Board—   laid under the Development of Tourism Act 1969; 5. Report and Accounts for 1996–97 of the Stonebridge Housing Action Trust, laid under the Housing Act 1988; 6. Report and Accounts for 1996–97 of the Highlands and Islands Airports Limited, laid under the Civil Aviation Act 1982; 7. Report and Accounts for 1996–97 of the Friendly Societies Commission, together with the Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General, laid under the Friendly Societies Act 1992; Page 188 1997-98 Volume 231 Back to top 8. Report and Accounts for 1996–97 of the Building Societies Commission, together with the Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General, laid under the Building Societies Act 1986; 9. Accounts for 1996–97 of the Royal Botanic Garden, Edinburgh, together with the Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General, laid under the National Heritage (Scotland) Act 1985; 10. Accounts for 1996–97 of the Scottish Higher Education Funding Council, together with the Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General, laid under the Further and Higher Education (Scotland) Act 1992; 11. Accounts for 1995–96 of the House of Commons Members’ Fund, together with the Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General, laid under the House of Commons Members’ Fund Act 1939; 12. Accounts for 1995–96 of the Parliamentary Contributory Pension Fund, together with the Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General, laid under the Parliamentary and other Pensions Act 1972; 13. Report for 1996–97 and Work Plan for 1997–98 of the National Disability Council, laid under the Disability Discrimination Act 1995; 14. Report for 1996–97 of the Post Office Users’ Council for Scotland, laid under the Post Office Act 1969. Select Committee Reports 12. House of Lords’ Offices—The 2nd Report from the Select Committee was made (see appendix); it was ordered that the Report be printed. (HL Paper 20) 13. Statutory Instruments—The 8th Report from the Joint Committee was made on certain statutory instruments; it was ordered that the Report be printed. (HL Paper 21) 14. European Communities—The following Reports from the Select Committee were made and ordered to be printed: The Amsterdam Treaty; (3rd Report—HL Paper 17) The European Ombudsman; (4th Report—HL Paper 18) Brussels II: the draft Convention on jurisdiction, recognition and enforcement of judgments in matrimonial matters. (5th Report—HL Paper 19) Public Business 15. Business of the House—It was moved by the Lord Privy Seal (Lord Richard) that Standing Order 44 (No two stages of a bill to be taken on one day) be dispensed with on Thursday 24th July to enable the Consolidated Fund (Appropriation) Bill to be taken through all its stages that day; the motion was agreed to. 16. Referendums (Scotland and Wales) Bill—The bill was further considered on report; amendments were disagreed to (see division lists 1 and 2); amendments were agreed to; amendments were moved and (by leave of the House) withdrawn; it was ordered that the bill be printed as amended. (HL Bill 26) 17. Sussex Downs—The Viscount Mersey asked Her Majesty’s Government whether they intend to give full support to the Sussex Downs Conservation Board in their management of the Sussex Downs Area of Outstanding Natural Beauty from April 1998; after debate, the question was answered by the Baroness Farrington of Ribbleton. The House was adjourned at twenty-eight minutes before ten o’clock till tomorrow, half-past two o’clock. DIVISIONS Division No. 1 REFERENDUMS (SCOTLAND AND WALES) BILL It was moved by the Lord Crickhowell, in Clause 2, page 2, line 8, at end to insert (“in accordance with proposals set out in a White Paper laid before Parliament before this Act is brought into force which shall also clearly set out the implications for England of the government’s proposals.”); which being objected to, the question was put thereupon, and the House divided: Contents.............107 Not-Contents.............134 Page 189 1997-98 Volume 231 Back to top CONTENTS Aberdare, L. Anelay of St. Johns, B. Ashbourne, L. Attlee, E. Barber of Tewkesbury, L. Beloff, L. Birdwood, L. Blatch, B. Boardman, L. Brentford, V. Brightman, L. Brougham and Vaux, L. Burnham, L. Cadman, L. Campbell of Alloway, L. Campbell of Croy, L. Carew, L. Carnegy of Lour, B. Carnock, L. Chalker of Wallasey, B. Charteris of Amisfield, L. Chesham, L. Clanwilliam, E. Clark of Kempston, L. Crickhowell, L. [Teller] Cross, V. Cuckney, L. Cumberlege, B. Dacre of Glanton, L. Davidson, V. Dean of Harptree, L. Dixon-Smith, L. Eccles of Moulton, B. Elles, B. Elliott of Morpeth, L. Fisher, L. Forbes, L. Fraser of Carmyllie, L. Gainford, L. Gardner of Parkes, B. Gisborough, L. Goschen, V. Gray, L. Gray of Contin, L. Harding of Petherton, L. Harrowby, E. Holderness, L. HolmPatrick, L. Howe, E. Johnston of Rockport, L. Jopling, L. Kenilworth, L. Kinnoull, E. Lane of Horsell, L. Lauderdale, E. Lindsay, E. Lindsey and Abingdon, E. Lloyd-George of Dwyfor, E. Long, V. Lucas, L. Lucas of Chilworth, L. Lyell, L. McColl of Dulwich, L. Mackay of Ardbrecknish, L. Macleod of Borve, B. Marlesford, L. Mayhew of Twysden, L. Milverton, L. Monckton of Brenchley, V. Monson, L. Montgomery of Alamein, V. Mountevans, L. Mowbray and Stourton, L. Nelson, E. Norfolk, D. Norrie, L. O’Cathain, B. Oxfuird, V. Park of Monmouth, B. Pearson of Rannoch, L. Peyton of Yeovil, L. Pike, B. Plummer of St. Marylebone, L. Rankeillour, L. Reay, L. Rees, L. [Teller] Renton, L. Renwick, L. Rotherwick, L. Saltoun of Abernethy, Ly. Sandford, L. Savile, L. Sharples, B. Soulsby of Swaffham Prior, L. Stanley of Alderley, L. Stodart of Leaston, L. Strathclyde, L. Swinfen, L. Taylor of Warwick, L. Terrington, L. Thomas of Gwydir, L. Torphichen, L. Tugendhat, L. Vivian, L. Wedgwood, L. Westbury, L. Whitelaw, V. NOT-CONTENTS Addington, L. Alderdice, L. Annan, L. Archer of Sandwell, L. Beaumont of Whitley, L. Berkeley, L. Blackstone, B. Blease, L. Blyth, L. Borrie, L. Boyd-Carpenter, L. Brooks of Tremorfa, L. Callaghan of Cardiff, L. Carlisle, E. Carter, L. [Teller] Castle of Blackburn, B. Chandos, V. Clinton-Davis, L. Craig of Radley, L. Dahrendorf, L. David, B. Dean of Beswick, L. Dean of Thornton-le-Fylde, B. Desai, L. Dixon, L. Donaldson of Kingsbridge, L. Donoughue, L. Dormand of Easington, L. Eatwell, L. Elis-Thomas, L. Evans of Parkside, L. Ewing of Kirkford, L. Ezra, L. Falconer of Thoroton, L. Falkland, V. Farrington of Ribbleton, B. Fisher of Rednal, B. Gallacher, L. Gilbert, L. Gladwin of Clee, L. Glasgow, E. Gould of Potternewton, B. Graham of Edmonton, L. Grantchester, L. Gregson, L. Grenfell, L. Grey, E. Hampton, L. Hamwee, B. Hanworth, V. Hardie, L. Harris of Greenwich, L. Haskel, L. Hayman, B. Headfort, M. Hilton of Eggardon, B. Hollis of Heigham, B. Hooson, L. Howell, L. Howie of Troon, L. Hoyle, L. Hughes, L. Irvine of Lairg, L. (Lord Chancellor) Jay of Paddington, B. Jeger, B. Jenkins of Hillhead, L. Jenkins of Putney, L. Kennet, L. Kilbracken, L. Kirkhill, L. Kirkwood, L. Leathers, V. Lestor of Eccles, B. Lester of Herne Hill, L. Lockwood, B. Lofthouse of Pontefract, L. Lovell-Davis, L. McConnell, L. McIntosh of Haringey, L. [Teller] Mackie of Benshie, L. McNally, L. Mallalieu, B. Mar and Kellie, E. Merlyn-Rees, L. Milner of Leeds, L. Mishcon, L. Page 190 1997-98 Volume 231 Back to top Molloy, L. Monkswell, L. Morris of Castle Morris, L. Nathan, L. Nicol, B. Ogmore, L. Parry, L. Peston, L. Plant of Highfield, L. Ponsonby of Shulbrede, L. Prys-Davies, L. Ramsay of Cartvale, B. Rea, L. Richard, L. (Lord Privy Seal) Ritchie of Dundee, L. Robertson of Oakridge, L. Robson of Kiddington, B. Rochester, L. Rodgers of Quarry Bank, L. Russell, E. Sainsbury, L. St. Davids, V. Sandwich, E. Serota, B. Sewel, L. Shepherd, L. Simon, V. Simon of Highbury, L. Slim, V. Smith of Gilmorehill, B. Stallard, L. Stoddart of Swindon, L. Strabolgi, L. Symons of Vernham Dean, B. Taylor of Gryfe, L. Thomas of Gresford, L. Thomas of Walliswood, B. Thomson of Monifieth, L. Thurso, V. Tordoff, L. Turner of Camden, B. Varley, L. Wedderburn of Charlton, L. Whitty, L. Wigoder, L. Williams of Elvel, L. Williams of Mostyn, L. Winston, L. Division No. 2 REFERENDUMS (SCOTLAND AND WALES) BILL It was moved by the Lord Mackay of Ardbrecknish, after Clause 3, to insert the new Clause (Free postage for Campaigning organisations); which being objected to, the question was put thereupon, and the House divided: Contents.............91 Not-Contents.............111 CONTENTS Ailsa, M. Allenby of Megiddo, V. Anelay of St. Johns, B. Astor, V. Astor of Hever, L. Barber of Tewkesbury, L. Beloff, L. Biddulph, L. Blatch, B. Brabazon of Tara, L. Braine of Wheatley, L. Brentford, V. Campbell of Alloway, L. Campbell of Croy, L. Carlisle, E. Carnegy of Lour, B. Carnock, L. Chesham, L. [Teller] Clanwilliam, E. Clark of Kempston, L. Craig of Radley, L. Cranworth, L. Crickhowell, L. Dacre of Glanton, L. Dean of Harptree, L. Denbigh, E. Denham, L. Denton of Wakefield, B. Dixon-Smith, L. Downshire, M. Elliott of Morpeth, L. Fraser of Carmyllie, L. Gage, V. Gisborough, L. Gray, L. Grimston of Westbury, L. Halsbury, E. Harlech, L. Harrowby, E. Hayhoe, L. Howe, E. Howell of Guildford, L. Hylton-Foster, B. Inchcape, E. Jenkin of Roding, L. Jopling, L. Kintore, E. Lauderdale, E. Lawrence, L. Lindsay, E. Lindsey and Abingdon, E. Long, V. Lucas, L. [Teller] Lyell, L. Mackay of Ardbrecknish, L. Mar and Kellie, E. Marlesford, L. Massereene and Ferrard, V. Miller of Hendon, B. Milverton, L. Monson, L. Mowbray and Stourton, L. Nelson, E. O’Cathain, B. Palmer, L. Pearson of Rannoch, L. Peel, E. Perth, E. Pilkington of Oxenford, L. Reay, L. Rees, L. Renfrew of Kaimsthorn, L. Renton of Mount Harry, L. Saltoun of Abernethy, Ly. Seccombe, B. Shrewsbury, E. Skelmersdale, L. Stanley of Alderley, L. Stewartby, L. Stodart of Leaston, L. Swinfen, L. Taylor of Warwick, L. Teynham, L. Thomas of Gwydir, L. Torphichen, L. Trumpington, B. Ullswater, V. Vivian, L. Waddington, L. Wharton, B. Wise, L. NOT-CONTENTS Addington, L. Alderdice, L. Archer of Sandwell, L. Barnett, L. Berkeley, L. Blackstone, B. Blease, L. Blyth, L. Borrie, L. Brooks of Tremorfa, L. Bruce of Donington, L. Calverley, L. Carmichael of Kelvingrove, L. Carter, L. [Teller] Castle of Blackburn, B. Chandos, V. Clinton-Davis, L. Crook, L. David, B. Dean of Beswick, L. Dean of Thornton-le-Fylde, B. Page 191 1997-98 Volume 231 Back to top Desai, L. Dixon, L. Donoughue, L. Dormand of Easington, L. Eatwell, L. Evans of Parkside, L. Ewing of Kirkford, L. Falconer of Thoroton, L. Falkender, B. Falkland, V. Farrington of Ribbleton, B. Gallacher, L. Gilbert, L. Gladwin of Clee, L. Glasgow, E. Glenamara, L. Gould of Potternewton, B. Graham of Edmonton, L. Gregson, L. Grenfell, L. Hampton, L. Hamwee, B. Hanworth, V. Hardie, L. Harris of Greenwich, L. Haskel, L. Hayman, B. Hilton of Eggardon, B. Hollis of Heigham, B. Hooson, L. Howell, L. Howie of Troon, L. Hughes, L. Irvine of Lairg, L. (Lord Chancellor) Jay of Paddington, B. Jeger, B. Kennet, L. Kilbracken, L. Kirkhill, L. Kirkwood, L. Lestor of Eccles, B. Lockwood, B. Lofthouse of Pontefract, L. Longford, E. Lovell-Davis, L. McIntosh of Haringey, L. [Teller] Mackie of Benshie, L. Mallalieu, B. Merlyn-Rees, L. Milner of Leeds, L. Mishcon, L. Molloy, L. Monkswell, L. Morris of Castle Morris, L. Murray of Epping Forest, L. Nathan, L. Nicol, B. Ogmore, L. Paul, L. Peston, L. Plant of Highfield, L. Ponsonby of Shulbrede, L. Prys-Davies, L. Ramsay of Cartvale, B. Rea, L. Richard, L. (Lord Privy Seal) Rochester, L. Rodgers of Quarry Bank, L. Russell, E. St. Davids, V. Sefton of Garston, L. Serota, B. Sewel, L. Shepherd, L. Simon of Highbury, L. Smith of Gilmorehill, B. Strabolgi, L. Symons of Vernham Dean, B. Taylor of Gryfe, L. Thomas of Gresford, L. Thomas of Walliswood, B. Thomson of Monifieth, L. Thurso, V. Tordoff, L. Turner of Camden, B. Varley, L. Wedderburn of Charlton, L. Whitty, L. Williams of Mostyn, L. Winston, L. APPENDIX 1 ELIZABETH THE SECOND by the Grace of God of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland and of Our other Realms and Territories Queen Head of the Commonwealth Defender of the Faith To all Lords Spiritual and Temporal and all other Our Subjects whatsoever to whom these Presents shall come Greeting Know Ye that We of Our especial grace certain knowledge and mere motion in pursuance of the Life Peerages Act 1958 and of all other powers in that behalf Us enabling do by these Presents advance create and prefer Our right trusty and well beloved Sir Peter Keith Levene Knight Commander of Our Most Excellent Order of the British Empire to the state degree style dignity title and honour of Baron Levene of Portsoken of Portsoken in Our City of London And for Us Our heirs and successors do appoint give and grant unto him the said name state degree style dignity title and honour of Baron Levene of Portsoken to have and to hold unto him for his life Willing and by these Presents granting for Us Our heirs and successors that he may have hold and possess a seat place and voice in the Parliaments and Public Assemblies and Councils of Us Our heirs and successors within Our United Kingdom amongst the Barons And also that he may enjoy and use all the rights privileges pre-eminences immunities and advantages to the degree of a Baron duly and of right belonging which Barons of Our United Kingdom have heretofore used and enjoyed or as they do at present use and enjoy In Witness whereof We have caused these Our Letters to be made Patent Witness Ourself at Westminster the twenty-second day of July in the forty-sixth year of Our Reign BY WARRANT UNDER THE QUEEN’S SIGN MANUAL APPENDIX 2 ELIZABETH THE SECOND by the Grace of God of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland and of Our other Realms and Territories Queen Head of the Commonwealth Defender of the Faith To all Lords Spiritual and Temporal and all other Our Subjects whatsoever to whom these Presents shall come Greeting Know Ye that We of Our especial grace certain knowledge and mere motion in pursuance of the Life Peerages Act 1958 and of all other powers in that behalf Us enabling do by these Presents advance create and prefer Our right trusty and well beloved Sir Peter Anthony Inge Knight Grand Cross of Our Most Honourable Order of the Bath Field Marshal in Our Army to the state degree style dignity title and honour of Baron Inge of Richmond in Our County of North Yorkshire Page 192 1997-98 Volume 231 Back to top And for Us Our heirs and successors do appoint give and grant unto him the said name state degree style dignity title and honour of Baron Inge to have and to hold unto him for his life Willing and by these Presents granting for Us Our heirs and successors that he may have hold and possess a seat place and voice in the Parliaments and Public Assemblies and Councils of Us Our heirs and successors within Our United Kingdom amongst the Barons And also that he may enjoy and use all the rights privileges pre-eminences immunities and advantages to the degree of a Baron duly and of right belonging which Barons of Our United Kingdom have heretofore used and enjoyed or as they do at present use and enjoy In Witness whereof We have caused these Our Letters to be made Patent Witness Ourself at Westminster in the forenoon of the twenty-first day of July in the forty-sixth year of Our Reign BY WARRANT UNDER THE QUEEN’S SIGN MANUAL APPENDIX 3 Second Report from the Select Committee on the House of Lords’ Offices Tuesday 22nd July 1997 By the Select Committee appointed to consider the House of Lords’ Offices Ordered to Report— The Committee has met and been attended by the Clerk of the Parliaments and the Gentlemen User of the Black Rod. 1. Sub-Committee membership Viscount Devonport was appointed to the Administration and Works Sub-Committee. 2. House of Lords Annual Report and Accounts The Committee approved the Annual Report and Accounts for 1996–97. 3. The Lord Chancellor’s Residence The Committee were informed that the Finance and Staff Sub-Committee had approved the estimated cost of £650,000, outside the current Estimate, for a major refurbishment of the Lord Chancellor’s Residence. 4. Mobile Telephones and pagers The Committee agreed rules for the use of mobile telephones and pagers in the House of Lords as follows: 1. Mobile telephones— (a) must be silent in all public areas of the House including the Chamber; (b) may only be used in offices or where conventional telephones are located; and (c) may not be used while moving around the House. 2. There should be no bar to the use of pagers, provided that they are silent. In the Chamber and Committees of the House pagers must not be used to transmit messages to Peers for use in proceedings. 5. Staff pay The Committee took note with approval of the 1997 pay awards to House of Lords staff; the cost to the paybill will be 3.8%. Page 193 1997-98 Volume 231 Back to top 6. Lords’ Reimbursement Allowances The Committee were informed of the annual up-rating of the motor mileage allowance in line with the increase in the Retail Price Index. From 1 April 1997, the rate of motor mileage allowance was increased by 1.2 pence to 48.4 pence for the first 20,000 miles for the period to 31 March 1998. Further mileage in this period would be payable at the rate of 22.3 pence per mile.