House of Lords Journal 231 (Session 1997-98)

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Thursday 16 October 1997

The House met at two o’clock.

The following Lords Spiritual and Temporal were present:

Irvine of Lairg, L.
(Lord Chancellor)

Aberdare, L.
Ackner, L.
Acton, L.
Addington, L.
Addison, V.
Ailesbury, M.
Ailsa, M.
Alderdice, L.
Alexander of Tunis, E.
Allen of Abbeydale, L.
Allenby of Megiddo, V.
Ampthill, L.
Anelay of St. Johns, B.
Annaly, L.
Annan, L.
Archer of Sandwell, L.
Archer of Weston-Super-Mare, L.
Ashbourne, L.
Ashburton, L.
Ashley of Stoke, L.
Astor, V.
Astor of Hever, L.
Attlee, E.
Avebury, L.
 Baker of Dorking, L.
Baldwin of Bewdley, E.
Banbury of Southam, L.
Barber, L.
Beaumont of Whitley, L.
Beaverbrook, L.
Belhaven and Stenton, L.
Beloff, L.
Belstead, L.
Berkeley, L.
Berners, B.
Bethell, L.
Biffen, L.
Birdwood, L.
Birmingham, Bp.
Blackburn, Bp.
Blackstone, B.
Blatch, B.
Blease, L.
Blyth, L.
Boardman, L.
Borrie, L.
Boston of Faversham, L.
Bowness, L.
 Boyd-Carpenter, L.
Braine of Wheatley, L.
Brentford, V.
Bridgeman, V.
Brightman, L.
Brigstocke, B.
Broadbridge, L.
Brookes, L.
Brooks of Tremorfa, L.
Brougham and Vaux, L.
Browne-Wilkinson, L.
Bruce of Donington, L.
Bruntisfield, L.
Burton, L.
Butterfield, L.
Butterworth, L.
Cadman, L.
Callaghan of Cardiff, L.
Calverley, L.
Campbell of Alloway, L.
Campbell of Croy, L.
Canterbury, Abp.
Carew, L.
Carlisle, E.

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Carmichael of Kelvingrove, L.
Carnegy of Lour, B.
Carnock, L.
Carr of Hadley, L.
Carter, L.
Carver, L.
Chalfont, L.
Chalker of Wallasey, B.
Chandos, V.
Chapple, L.
Charteris of Amisfield, L.
Chelmsford, V.
Chesham, L.
Clancarty, E.
Clanwilliam, E.
Clark of Kempston, L.
Cledwyn of Penrhos, L.
Clifford of Chudleigh, L.
Clinton-Davis, L.
Clyde, L.
Cochrane of Cults, L.
Cockfield, L.
Cocks of Hartcliffe, L.
Coleraine, L.
Colwyn, L.
Congleton, L.
Constantine of Stanmore, L.
Cooke of Islandreagh, L.
Cooke of Thorndon, L.
Cottesloe, L.
Courtown, E.
Cowdrey of Tonbridge, L.
Cox, B.
Craigavon, V.
Cranborne, V.
Cranbrook, E.
Crawshaw, L.
Cross, V.
Cullen of Ashbourne, L.
Dahrendorf, L.
Dainton, L.
Darcy de Knayth, B.
Davidson, V.
Davies, L.
Davies of Oldham, L.
De Freyne, L.
Dean of Beswick, L.
Dean of Harptree, L.
Denbigh, E.
Denham, L.
Denton of Wakefield, B.
Derwent, L.
Desai, L.
Devonport, V.
Diamond, L.
Digby, L.
Dilhorne, V.
Dixon, L.
Dixon-Smith, L.
Donoughue, L.
Dormand of Easington, L.
Drogheda, E.
Dubs, L.
Dudley, E.
Dundee, E.
Dundonald, E.
Eatwell, L.
Eccles of Moulton, B.
Effingham, E.
 Ellenborough, L.
Elles, B.
Elliott of Morpeth, L.
Emerton, B.
Erroll, E.
Evans of Parkside, L.
Ezra, L.
Falconer of Thoroton, L.
Falkland, V.
Farrington of Ribbleton, B.
Feldman, L.
Ferrers, E.
Fitt, L.
Foley, L.
Fookes, B.
Fraser of Carmyllie, L.
Freyberg, L.
Gainford, L.
Gainsborough, E.
Gallacher, L.
Geraint, L.
Gilbert, L.
Gillmore of Thamesfield, L.
Gisborough, L.
Gladwin of Clee, L.
Goff of Chieveley, L.
Gormanston, V.
Goschen, V.
Gould of Potternewton, B.
Graham of Edmonton, L.
Greenway, L.
Gregson, L.
Grenfell, L.
Grey, E.
Hacking, L.
Haddington, E.
Hailsham of Saint Marylebone, L.
Halsbury, E.
Hamilton of Dalzell, L.
Hamwee, B.
Hankey, L.
Hanworth, V.
Hardie, L.
Harding of Petherton, L.
Hardwicke, E.
Hardy of Wath, L.
Harmar-Nicholls, L.
Harmsworth, L.
Harris of Greenwich, L.
Haskel, L.
Hayhoe, L.
Hayman, B.
Hayter, L.
Hemphill, L.
Henley, L.
Hoffmann, L.
Hogg of Cumbernauld, L.
Holderness, L.
Hollick, L.
Hollis of Heigham, B.
Holme of Cheltenham, L.
HolmPatrick, L.
Hood, V.
Hooper, B.
Hooson, L.
Hope of Craighead, L.
Howe, E.
Howell, L.
Howie of Troon, L.
 Hoyle, L.
Hughes of Woodside, L.
Hunt of Tanworth, L.
Huntly, M.
Hylton, L.
Hylton-Foster, B.
Ilchester, E.
Inchcape, E.
Ironside, L.
Jay of Paddington, B.
Jellicoe, E.
Jenkin of Roding, L.
Jenkins of Putney, L.
Judd, L.
Kenilworth, L.
Kennet, L.
Kilbracken, L.
Kilmarnock, L.
Kimball, L.
Kingsland, L.
Kinloss, Ly.
Kinnoull, E.
Kintore, E.
Kirkhill, L.
Kirkwood, L.
Kissin, L.
Kitchener, E.
Lane, L.
Lane of Horsell, L.
Lauderdale, E.
Lawrence, L.
Lawson of Blaby, L.
Layton, L.
Leathers, V.
Leicester, E.
Leicester, Bp.
Leigh, L.
Lester of Herne Hill, L.
Lestor of Eccles, B.
Lewin, L.
Lindsay, E.
Liverpool, E.
Lloyd of Berwick, L.
Lockwood, B.
Long, V.
Longford, E.
Lowry, L.
Lucas, L.
Lucas of Chilworth, L.
Luke, L.
McCarthy, L.
McColl of Dulwich, L.
McConnell, L.
McGregor of Durris, L.
McIntosh of Haringey, L.
Mackay of Drumadoon, L.
Mackintosh of Halifax, V.
Macleod of Borve, B.
McNair, L.
McNally, L.
Mancroft, L.
Mar, C.
Marlesford, L.
Marsh, L.
Masham of Ilton, B.
Mason of Barnsley, L.
Mayhew of Twysden, L.
Merlyn-Rees, L.
Mersey, V.

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Meston, L.
Methuen, L.
Miller of Hendon, B.
Milner of Leeds, L.
Milverton, L.
Mishcon, L.
Molloy, L.
Molyneaux of Killead, L.
Monkswell, L.
Monson, L.
Moran, L.
Morris of Castle Morris, L.
Mottistone, L.
Mountevans, L.
Mowbray and Stourton, L.
Moyne, L.
Moynihan, L.
Munster, E.
Murray of Epping Forest, L.
Murton of Lindisfarne, L.
Napier and Ettrick, L.
Napier of Magdâla, L.
Nathan, L.
Nelson, E.
Newall, L.
Newby, L.
Nicol, B.
Noel-Buxton, L.
Nolan, L.
Norrie, L.
Northesk, E.
Norwich, Bp.
O’Cathain, B.
Ogmore, L.
Oliver of Aylmerton, L.
Oxford, Bp.
Palmer, L.
Park of Monmouth, B.
Paul, L.
Pearson of Rannoch, L.
Pender, L.
Perry of Walton, L.
Peston, L.
Pilkington of Oxenford, L.
Plant of Highfield, L.
Plummer of St. Marylebone, L.
Ponsonby of Shulbrede, L.
Prentice, L.
Prior, L.
Prys-Davies, L.
Pym, L.
Quinton, L.
Quirk, L.
Ramsay of Cartvale, B.
 Randall of St. Budeaux, L.
Rathcavan, L.
Rawlings, B.
Rawlinson of Ewell, L.
Rea, L.
Reading, M.
Redesdale, L.
Rees, L.
Rennell, L.
Renton, L.
Renwick, L.
Richard, L.
Rix, L.
Rodgers of Quarry Bank, L.
Romney, E.
Rotherwick, L.
Rowallan, L.
Russell, E.
Saint Albans, D.
St. Davids, V.
St. John of Bletso, L.
St. John of Fawsley, L.
Saint Oswald, L.
Saltoun of Abernethy, Ly.
Sandberg, L.
Sandwich, E.
Scanlon, L.
Seccombe, B.
Sefton of Garston, L.
Sempill, L.
Serota, B.
Shannon, E.
Shaughnessy, L.
Shepherd, L.
Shore of Stepney, L.
Shrewsbury, E.
Simon, V.
Simon of Glaisdale, L.
Simon of Highbury, L.
Skidelsky, L.
Smith, L.
Smith of Gilmorehill, B.
Soulsby of Swaffham Prior, L.
Southwark, Bp.
Stallard, L.
Stanley of Alderley, L.
Stevens of Ludgate, L.
Stewartby, L.
Steyn, L.
Stoddart of Swindon, L.
Strabolgi, L.
Strafford, E.
Strange, B.
Strathcarron, L.
 Strathclyde, L.
Strathcona and Mount Royal, L.
Sudeley, L.
Suffield, L.
Suffolk and Berkshire, E.
Swansea, L.
Swaythling, L.
Swinfen, L.
Symons of Vernham Dean, B.
Taverne, L.
Taylor of Blackburn, L.
Taylor of Gryfe, L.
Taylor of Warwick, L.
Tebbit, L.
Tenby, V.
Teviot, L.
Teynham, L.
Thomas of Gresford, L.
Thomas of Gwydir, L.
Thomas of Walliswood, B.
Thomson of Monifieth, L.
Thurlow, L.
Thurso, V.
Tollemache, L.
Torrington, V.
Trefgarne, L.
Trenchard, V.
Turner of Camden, B.
Tweeddale, M.
Vivian, L.
Waddington, L.
Wade of Chorlton, L.
Wallace of Coslany, L.
Walpole, L.
Walton of Detchant, L.
Waverley, V.
Weatherill, L.
Wedderburn of Charlton, L.
Westbury, L.
Wharton, B.
Whitty, L.
Wigoder, L.
Wilberforce, L.
Wilcox, B.
Williams of Elvel, L.
Williams of Mostyn, L.
Wilson of Tillyorn, L.
Winchilsea and Nottingham, E.
Windlesham, L.
Wright of Richmond, L.
Yarborough, E.
Young, B.
Young of Dartington, L.
Younger of Prestwick, L.
Zouche of Haryngworth, L.

PRAYERS were read by the Lord Bishop of Norwich.

Judicial Business

1.Tracy and others (Respondents) v. Crosville Wales Limited (Appellants)—The Report from the Appellate Committee was agreed to; it was ordered and adjudged that the Order of the Court of Appeal of 31st July 1995 be affirmed and the appeal dismissed with costs, the amount thereof to be certified by the Clerk of the Parliaments if not agreed between the parties.
2.Republic of India and others (Appellants) v. India Steamship Company Limited (Respondents)—The Report from the Appellate Committee was agreed to; it was ordered and adjudged that the Order of the Court of Appeal of 23rd April 1996 be affirmed and the appeal dismissed with costs, the amount thereof to be certified by the Clerk of the Parliaments if not agreed between the parties.

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3.City of Edinburgh Council (Respondents) v. Secretary of State for Scotland (Appellant) and Revival Properties Limited (Respondents) (Scotland)—
4.City of Edinburgh Council (Respondents) v. Secretary of State for Scotland (Respondent) and Revival Properties Limited (Appellants) (Scotland)—

(Conjoined Appeals)

The Report from the Appellate Committee was agreed to; it was ordered and adjudged that the appeal of Revival Properties Limited on the matter of listed building consent be dismissed; that the appeal of the Secretary of State for Scotland and of Revival Properties Limited on the matter of planning permission be allowed; that the Interlocutor of the Second Division of the Court of Session of 16th January be recalled insofar as it relates to the planning permission and that the decision of the Inquiry Reporter of 7th March 1995 concerning planning permission be restored; and that the Interlocutors of 22nd March 1996 be recalled; that the City of Edinburgh Council do pay the costs of the Secretary of State for Scotland in this House and one half of his expenses in the Court of Session and that the said Council do pay one half of the costs of Revival Properties Limited in this House and one half of their expenses in the Court of Session, the amount of the costs in this House to be certified by the Clerk of the Parliaments if not agreed between the parties.

5.Soden and another (Appellants) v. British Commonwealth Holdings plc (in administration) and others (Respondents)—The Report from the Appellate Committee was agreed to; it was ordered and adjudged that the Order of the Court of Appeal of 15th May 1996 be affirmed and the appeal dismissed with costs, the amount thereof to be certified by the Clerk of the Parliaments if not agreed between the parties.
6.Appeal Committee—The 27th Report from the Appeal Committee was agreed to and the following Order was made—

Grovit (Appellant) and others v. Doctor and others (Respondents)—That the petition of the appellant praying that the determination by the Clerk of the Parliaments of the respondents’ costs might be reviewed be dismissed.

The House was adjourned during pleasure.
The House was resumed.

7.Lord Sandberg—Sir Michael Graham Ruddock Sandberg, Knight CBE, having been created Baron Sandberg, of Passfield in the County of Hampshire, for life by Letters Patent dated in the forenoon of 2nd October 1997 (see appendix 1), was introduced between the Lord Swaythling and the Lord Harris of Greenwich, the Gentleman Usher of the Black Rod and Garter King of Arms preceding; and took and subscribed the oath pursuant to statute.
8.Baroness Fookes—Dame Janet Evelyn Fookes DBE, having been created Baroness Fookes, of Plymouth in the County of Devon, for life by Letters Patent dated in the afternoon of 30th September 1997 (see appendix 2), was introduced between the Lord Clifford of Chudleigh and the Lord Weatherill, the Gentleman Usher of the Black Rod and Garter King of Arms preceding; and took and subscribed the oath pursuant to statute.

Papers

9.Paper not subject to parliamentary proceedings—The following paper was laid before the House and ordered to lie on the Table:

Statement of Pension Determination for a member of the Civil Aviation Authority Board, laid under the Civil Aviation Act 1982.

Public Business

10.Public Processions etc. (Northern Ireland) Bill [HL]—A bill to amend the law relating to public processions in Northern Ireland; to provide for the establishment and functions of a Parades Commission concerned with public processions and other expressions of cultural identity in Northern Ireland; and for connected purposes, was presented by the Lord Dubs, read a first time and ordered to be printed. (HL Bill 34)
11.Plant Varieties Bill—It was moved by the Lord Carter that it be an instruction to the Committee of the Whole House to whom the Plant Varieties Bill has been committed that they consider the bill in the following order:
Clauses 1 and 2
Schedule 1
Clauses 3 and 4
Schedule 2
Clauses 5 to 39		Schedule 3
Clauses 40 to 49
Schedule 4
Clauses 50 and 51;

the motion was agreed to.

12.Nuclear Explosions (Prohibition and Inspections) Bill [HL]—The order of commitment was discharged.

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13.Ministerial and other Salaries Bill—It was moved by the Lord Privy Seal that the bill be now read a second time; after debate, the motion was agreed to and the Committee was negatived; then, Standing Order 44 having been dispensed with, the bill was read a third time and passed.
14.Fossil Fuel Levy Bill [HL]—The House resolved itself into a Committee upon the bill; the House was resumed and the bill was reported without amendment; the report was received.
15.Firearms (Amendment) Bill—The report was received; amendments were agreed to (see division lists 1 and 2); an amendment was agreed to; amendments were moved and (by leave of the House) withdrawn; an amendment was disagreed to (see division list 3); it was ordered that the bill be printed as amended. (HL Bill 35)

The House was adjourned at eight minutes past seven o’clock
to Tuesday next, a quarter-past two o’clock.

DIVISIONS

Division No. 1

FIREARMS (AMENDMENT) BILL

It was moved by the Lord Howell, after Clause 1, to insert the new Clause (Disabled persons: exemption); which being objected to, the question was put thereupon, and the House divided:

Contents.............120*

Not-Contents.............101

*The Tellers for the Contents reported 120 votes; the Clerks recorded 119 names.

CONTENTS

Aberdare, L.
Alexander of Tunis, E.
Annaly, L.
Astor, V.
Attlee, E.
Belstead, L.
Berners, B.
Birdwood, L.
Blatch, B.
Boyd-Carpenter, L.
Bridgeman, V.
Brigstocke, B.
Brookes, L.
Brougham and Vaux, L.
Burton, L.
Cadman, L.
Campbell of Croy, L.
Carnegy of Lour, B.
Chalker of Wallasey, B.
Charteris of Amisfield, L.
Chesham, L.
Clark of Kempston, L.
Clifford of Chudleigh, L.
Congleton, L.
Cottesloe, L.
Courtown, E.
Cox, B.
Cranborne, V.
Crawshaw, L.
Cross, V.
Cullen of Ashbourne, L.
Denham, L.
Denton of Wakefield, B.
Derwent, L.
Dilhorne, V.
Dundee, E.
Foley, L.
Fraser of Carmyllie, L.
 Gainsborough, E.
Gisborough, L.
Haddington, E.
Halsbury, E.
Hamilton of Dalzell, L.
Harding of Petherton, L.
Harmsworth, L.
Hayhoe, L.
Hemphill, L.
Henley, L.
Holderness, L.
Hood, V.
Howe, E.
Howell, L. [Teller]
Howie of Troon, L.
Hunt of Tanworth, L.
Hylton, L.
Hylton-Foster, B.
Ilchester, E.
Kilmarnock, L.
Kintore, E.
Leicester, Bp.
Leigh, L.
Liverpool, E.
Lucas, L.
Luke, L.
Mackay of Drumadoon, L.
McNair, L.
Marlesford, L.
Marsh, L.
Mayhew of Twysden, L.
Mersey, V.
Milverton, L.
Molloy, L.
Molyneaux of Killead, L.
Monson, L.
Mowbray and Stourton, L.
Moynihan, L. [Teller]
Murray of Epping Forest, L.
 Murton of Lindisfarne, L.
Nathan, L.
Newall, L.
Noel-Buxton, L.
Northesk, E.
O’Cathain, B.
Pearson of Rannoch, L.
Plummer of St. Marylebone, L.
Prentice, L.
Prior, L.
Rawlings, B.
Rawlinson of Ewell, L.
Reading, M.
Renton, L.
Romney, E.
Rotherwick, L.
Rowallan, L.
Saint Albans, D.
St. John of Bletso, L.
Saint Oswald, L.
Saltoun of Abernethy, Ly.
Sandwich, E.
Shrewsbury, E.
Soulsby of Swaffham Prior, L.
Stoddart of Swindon, L.
Strathcarron, L.
Strathclyde, L.
Sudeley, L.
Swansea, L.
Swinfen, L.
Taverne, L.
Taylor of Warwick, L.
Tebbit, L.
Thomas of Gwydir, L.
Tollemache, L.
Vivian, L.
Weatherill, L.
Wharton, B.
Yarborough, E.
Young, B.
Younger of Prestwick, L.
Zouche of Haryngworth, L.

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NOT-CONTENTS

Acton, L.
Addington, L.
Alderdice, L.
Archer of Sandwell, L.
Ashley of Stoke, L.
Berkeley, L.
Blackstone, B.
Blyth, L.
Borrie, L.
Bruce of Donington, L.
Calverley, L.
Carlisle, E.
Carmichael of Kelvingrove, L.
Carter, L. [Teller]
Chandos, V.
Cledwyn of Penrhos, L.
Clinton-Davis, L.
Cocks of Hartcliffe, L.
Davies of Oldham, L.
Dean of Beswick, L.
Desai, L.
Diamond, L.
Dixon, L.
Donoughue, L.
Dormand of Easington, L.
Drogheda, E.
Dubs, L.
Eatwell, L.
Falconer of Thoroton, L.
Farrington of Ribbleton, B.
Fitt, L.
Gallacher, L.
Geraint, L.
 Gladwin of Clee, L.
Gould of Potternewton, B.
Graham of Edmonton, L.
Gregson, L.
Grenfell, L.
Hamwee, B.
Hanworth, V.
Hardy of Wath, L.
Harris of Greenwich, L.
Haskel, L. [Teller]
Hayman, B.
Hogg of Cumbernauld, L.
Hollis of Heigham, B.
Hoyle, L.
Hughes of Woodside, L.
Irvine of Lairg, L.
(Lord Chancellor)
Jay of Paddington, B.
Jenkins of Putney, L.
Judd, L.
Kilbracken, L.
Kirkhill, L.
Lawrence, L.
Leathers, V.
Lester of Herne Hill, L.
Lestor of Eccles, B.
Lockwood, B.
Longford, E.
McCarthy, L.
McIntosh of Haringey, L.
McNally, L.
Merlyn-Rees, L.
Milner of Leeds, L.
Mishcon, L.
 Morris of Castle Morris, L.
Nelson, E.
Newby, L.
Nicol, B.
Oxford, Bp.
Paul, L.
Peston, L.
Plant of Highfield, L.
Ponsonby of Shulbrede, L.
Prys-Davies, L.
Ramsay of Cartvale, B.
Randall of St. Budeaux, L.
Rea, L.
Redesdale, L.
Richard, L. (Lord Privy Seal)
Russell, E.
Sandberg, L.
Serota, B.
Shepherd, L.
Shore of Stepney, L.
Simon, V.
Simon of Highbury, L.
Smith of Gilmorehill, B.
Strabolgi, L.
Symons of Vernham Dean, B.
Thomas of Gresford, L.
Thomson of Monifieth, L.
Turner of Camden, B.
Wallace of Coslany, L.
Walpole, L.
Wedderburn of Charlton, L.
Whitty, L.
Williams of Elvel, L.
Williams of Mostyn, L.
Winchilsea and Nottingham, E.

Division No. 2

FIREARMS (AMENDMENT) BILL

It was moved by the Lord Stoddart of Swindon, after Clause 2, to insert the new Clause (Competition pistols); which being objected to, the question was put thereupon, and the House divided:

Contents.............90

Not-Contents.............77

CONTENTS

Addison, V.
Alexander of Tunis, E.
Anelay of St. Johns, B.
Annaly, L.
Astor, V.
Attlee, E.
Baker of Dorking, L.
Berners, B.
Blatch, B.
Bridgeman, V.
Brookes, L.
Burton, L.
Cadman, L.
Carnegy of Lour, B.
Chalker of Wallasey, B.
Chesham, L.
Clark of Kempston, L.
Clifford of Chudleigh, L.
Cochrane of Cults, L.
Colwyn, L.
Congleton, L.
 Cottesloe, L.
Courtown, E.
Cranborne, V.
Crawshaw, L.
Cross, V.
Darcy de Knayth, B.
Denham, L.
Denton of Wakefield, B.
Dilhorne, V.
Dudley, E.
Dundonald, E.
Erroll, E.
Ferrers, E.
Fraser of Carmyllie, L.
Gainsborough, E.
Haddington, E.
Halsbury, E.
Hamilton of Dalzell, L.
Harmsworth, L.
Hayhoe, L.
Hemphill, L.
Henley, L.
 Howe, E.
Howell, L.
Howie of Troon, L.
Hylton, L.
Hylton-Foster, B.
Kintore, E.
Liverpool, E.
Long, V.
Luke, L.
Mackay of Drumadoon, L.
McNair, L.
Marsh, L.
Mersey, V.
Milverton, L.
Molloy, L.
Molyneaux of Killead, L.
Monson, L.
Mowbray and Stourton, L.
Moynihan, L. [Teller]
Newall, L.
Northesk, E.
O’Cathain, B.
Pearson of Rannoch, L.

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Rathcavan, L.
Rawlinson of Ewell, L.
Renton, L.
Rowallan, L.
Saint Oswald, L.
Saltoun of Abernethy, Ly.
Seccombe, B.
Shrewsbury, E.
 Stallard, L.
Stewartby, L.
Stoddart of Swindon, L. [Teller]
Strathcarron, L.
Strathclyde, L.
Sudeley, L.
Swansea, L.
Swinfen, L.
 Teviot, L.
Tollemache, L.
Wilberforce, L.
Wilcox, B.
Yarborough, E.
Young, B.
Young of Dartington, L.
Zouche of Haryngworth, L.

NOT-CONTENTS

Acton, L.
Archer of Sandwell, L.
Ashley of Stoke, L.
Banbury of Southam, L.
Berkeley, L.
Blackstone, B.
Borrie, L.
Carmichael of Kelvingrove, L.
Carter, L. [Teller]
Chandos, V.
Cledwyn of Penrhos, L.
Cocks of Hartcliffe, L.
Davies of Oldham, L.
Desai, L.
Diamond, L.
Dixon, L.
Donoughue, L.
Dormand of Easington, L.
Dubs, L.
Eatwell, L.
Falconer of Thoroton, L.
Farrington of Ribbleton, B.
Gallacher, L.
Gladwin of Clee, L.
Gould of Potternewton, B.
 Graham of Edmonton, L.
Gregson, L.
Grenfell, L.
Hamwee, B.
Hanworth, V.
Hardy of Wath, L.
Harris of Greenwich, L.
Haskel, L.
Hayman, B.
Hogg of Cumbernauld, L.
Hollis of Heigham, B.
Hoyle, L.
Hughes of Woodside, L.
Irvine of Lairg, L.
(Lord Chancellor)
Jay of Paddington, B.
Jenkins of Putney, L.
Judd, L.
Kilbracken, L.
Kirkhill, L.
Lester of Herne Hill, L.
Lestor of Eccles, B.
Lockwood, B.
McIntosh of Haringey, L. [Teller]
McNally, L.
Merlyn-Rees, L.
 Milner of Leeds, L.
Mishcon, L.
Morris of Castle Morris, L.
Murray of Epping Forest, L.
Nelson, E.
Newby, L.
Nicol, B.
Paul, L.
Plant of Highfield, L.
Ponsonby of Shulbrede, L.
Prys-Davies, L.
Randall of St. Budeaux, L.
Rea, L.
Redesdale, L.
Richard, L. (Lord Privy Seal)
Russell, E.
Serota, B.
Shore of Stepney, L.
Simon, V.
Simon of Highbury, L.
Strabolgi, L.
Symons of Vernham Dean, B.
Thomson of Monifieth, L.
Turner of Camden, B.
Whitty, L.
Williams of Mostyn, L.
Windlesham, L.

Division No. 3

FIREARMS (AMENDMENT) BILL

It was moved by the Lord Stoddart of Swindon, after Clause 2 to insert the new Clause (Review of compensation scheme); which being objected to, the question was put thereupon, and the House divided:

Contents.............59

Not-Contents.............68

CONTENTS

Anelay of St. Johns, B.
Annaly, L.
Astor, V.
Attlee, E.
Blatch, B.
Bridgeman, V.
Brookes, L.
Burton, L.
Cadman, L.
Carnegy of Lour, B.
Chalker of Wallasey, B.
Chesham, L.
Clark of Kempston, L.
Cochrane of Cults, L.
Colwyn, L.
Congleton, L.
Cottesloe, L.
Courtown, E.
 Cox, B.
Crawshaw, L.
Darcy (de Knayth), B.
Dilhorne, V.
Dudley, E.
Dundee, E.
Dundonald, E.
Ferrers, E.
Fraser of Carmyllie, L.
Haddington, E.
Hamilton of Dalzell, L.
Hemphill, L.
Henley, L.
Howie of Troon, L.
Kintore, E.
Lawrence, L.
Luke, L.
Mackay of Drumadoon, L.
Milverton, L.
 Molyneaux of Killead, L.
Monson, L.
Mowbray and Stourton, L.
Moynihan, L.
Newall, L.
Northesk, E.
Pearson of Rannoch, L. [Teller]
Rathcavan, L.
Renton, L.
Saint Oswald, L.
Saltoun of Abernethy, Ly.
Seccombe, B.
Shrewsbury, E.
Stallard, L.
Stoddart of Swindon, L. [Teller]
Sudeley, L.
Swinfen, L.
Teviot, L.
Wharton, B.
Wilcox, B.
Young, B.
Zouche of Haryngworth, L.

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NOT-CONTENTS

Acton, L.
Addington, L.
Archer of Sandwell, L.
Ashley of Stoke, L.
Berkeley, L.
Blackstone, B.
Carmichael of Kelvingrove, L.
Carter, L. [Teller]
Chandos, V.
Davies of Oldham, L.
Diamond, L.
Dixon, L.
Donoughue, L.
Dormand of Easington, L.
Dubs, L.
Eatwell, L.
Falconer of Thoroton, L.
Farrington of Ribbleton, B.
Gallacher, L.
Gladwin of Clee, L.
Gould of Potternewton, B.
 Gregson, L.
Grenfell, L.
Hamwee, B.
Hanworth, V.
Hardy of Wath, L.
Harris of Greenwich, L.
Haskel, L.
Hayman, B.
Hogg of Cumbernauld, L.
Hollis of Heigham, B.
Howell, L.
Hoyle, L.
Hughes of Woodside, L.
Jay of Paddington, B.
Judd, L.
Kirkhill, L.
Lester of Herne Hill, L.
Lestor of Eccles, B.
Lockwood, B.
McIntosh of Haringey, L. [Teller]
McNally, L.
Merlyn-Rees, L.
 Milner of Leeds, L.
Molloy, L.
Morris of Castle Morris, L.
Murray of Epping Forest, L.
Nelson, E.
Newby, L.
Nicol, B.
Paul, L.
Plant of Highfield, L.
Ponsonby of Shulbrede, L.
Prys-Davies, L.
Randall of St. Budeaux, L.
Rea, L.
Redesdale, L.
Richard, L. (Lord Privy Seal)
Russell, E.
Serota, B.
Shore of Stepney, L.
Simon, V.
Simon of Highbury, L.
Strabolgi, L.
Thomson of Monifieth, L.
Turner of Camden, B.
Whitty, L.
Williams of Mostyn, L.

APPENDIX 1

ELIZABETH THE SECOND by the Grace of God of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland and of Our other Realms and Territories Queen Head of the Commonwealth Defender of the Faith To all Lords Spiritual and Temporal and all other Our Subjects whatsoever to whom these Presents shall come Greeting Know Ye that We of Our especial grace certain knowledge and mere motion in pursuance of the Life Peerages Act 1958 and of all other powers in that behalf Us enabling do by these Presents advance create and prefer Our right trusty and well beloved Sir Michael Graham Ruddock Sandberg Knight: Commander of Our Most Excellent Order of the British Empire to the state degree style dignity title and honour of Baron Sandberg of Passfield in Our County of Hampshire

And for Us Our heirs and successors do appoint give and grant unto him the said name state degree style dignity title and honour of Baron Sandberg to have and to hold unto him for his life

Willing and by these Presents granting for Us Our heirs and successors that he may have hold and possess a seat place and voice in the Parliaments and Public Assemblies and Councils of Us Our heirs and successors within Our United Kingdom amongst the Barons And also that he may enjoy and use all the rights privileges pre-eminences immunities and advantages to the degree of a Baron duly and of right belonging which Barons of Our United Kingdom have heretofore used and enjoyed or as they do at present use and enjoy

In Witness whereof We have caused these Our Letters to be made Patent Witness Ourself at Westminster in the forenoon of the second day of October in the forty-sixth year of Our Reign

BY WARRANT UNDER THE QUEEN’S SIGN MANUAL

APPENDIX 2

ELIZABETH THE SECOND by the Grace of God of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland and of Our other Realms and Territories Queen Head of the Commonwealth Defender of the Faith To all Lords Spiritual and Temporal and all other Our Subjects whatsoever to whom these Presents shall come Greeting Know Ye that We of Our especial grace certain knowledge and mere motion in pursuance of the Life Peerages Act 1958 and of all other powers in that behalf Us enabling do by these Presents advance create and prefer Our trusty and well beloved Dame Janet Evelyn Fookes Dame Commander of Our Most Excellent Order of the British Empire to the state degree style dignity title and honour of Baroness Fookes of Plymouth in Our County of Devon

And for Us Our heirs and successors do appoint give and grant unto him the said name state degree style dignity title and honour of Baroness Fookes to have and to hold unto her for her life

Willing and by these Presents granting for Us Our heirs and successors that she may have hold and possess a seat place and voice in the Parliaments and Public Assemblies and Councils of Us Our heirs

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and successors within Our United Kingdom amongst the Barons And also that she may enjoy and use all the rights privileges pre-eminences immunities and advantages to the degree of a Baron duly and of right belonging which Barons of Our United Kingdom have heretofore used and enjoyed or as they do at present use and enjoy

In Witness whereof We have caused these Our Letters to be made Patent Witness Ourself at Westminster in the afternoon of the thirtieth day of September in the forty-sixth year of Our Reign

BY WARRANT UNDER THE QUEEN’S SIGN MANUAL