House of Lords Journal 231 (Session 1997-98)

Previous Next Thursday 23 October 1997 The House met at three o’clock. The following Lords Spiritual and Temporal were present: Irvine of Lairg, L. (Lord Chancellor) Abercorn, D. Aberdare, L. Ackner, L. Acton, L. Addington, L. Addison, V. Ailesbury, M. Ailsa, M. Alanbrooke, V. Alderdice, L. Aldington, L. Alexander of Tunis, E. Allen of Abbeydale, L. Allenby of Megiddo, V. Amos, B. Ampthill, L. Anelay of St. Johns, B. Annan, L. Archer of Weston-Super-Mare, L. Arran, E. Ashbourne, L. Ashley of Stoke, L. Astor of Hever, L. Attlee, E. Avebury, L. Baldwin of Bewdley, E. Banbury of Southam, L. Barnett, L. Bathurst, E. Beaumont of Whitley, L. Page 269 1997-98 Volume 231       Beaverbrook, L. Belhaven and Stenton, L. Bellwin, L. Beloff, L. Belstead, L. Berners, B. Birdwood, L. Blackburn, Bp. Blackstone, B. Blaker, L. Blatch, B. Blease, L. Blyth, L. Boardman, L. Borrie, L. Boston of Faversham, L. Bowness, L. Boyd-Carpenter, L. Brabazon of Tara, L. Brain, L. Braine of Wheatley, L. Bramall, L. Brentford, V. Bridgeman, V. Bridges, L. Brightman, L. Broadbridge, L. Broughshane, L. Browne-Wilkinson, L. Bruce of Donington, L. Bruntisfield, L. Burnham, L. Butterworth, L. Cadman, L. Caldecote, V. Callaghan of Cardiff, L. Calverley, L. Campbell of Alloway, L. Campbell of Croy, L. Carew, L. Carlisle, E. Carmichael of Kelvingrove, L. Carnarvon, E. Carnegy of Lour, B. Carnock, L. Carr of Hadley, L. Carter, L. Carver, L. Chadlington, L. Chapple, L. Chesham, L. Chichester, Bp. Chorley, L. Clancarty, E. Clanwilliam, E. Clark of Kempston, L. Cledwyn of Penrhos, L. Cobbold, L. Cockfield, L. Cocks of Hartcliffe, L. Coleridge, L. Colwyn, L. Cooke of Thorndon, L. Cope of Berkeley, L. Courtown, E. Cowdrey of Tonbridge, L. Craigavon, V. Cross, V. Cullen of Ashbourne, L. Currie of Marylebone, L. Dacre of Glanton, L. Darcy de Knayth, B. Davidson, V. Davies of Coity, L. Davies of Oldham, L. Dean of Beswick, L. Dean of Harptree, L. Dean of Thornton-le-Fylde, B. Denham, L. Denton of Wakefield, B. Desai, L. Devonport, V. Diamond, L. Dilhorne, V. Dixon, L. Donaldson of Kingsbridge, L. Donegall, M. Dormand of Easington, L. Dubs, L. Dundonald, E. Durham, Bp. Elibank, L. Elis-Thomas, L. Ellenborough, L. Elles, B. Elliott of Morpeth, L. Elton, L. Erroll of Hale, L. Evans of Parkside, L. Ewing of Kirkford, L. Exmouth, V. Ezra, L. Falconer of Thoroton, L. Falkland, V. Farrington of Ribbleton, B. Feldman, L. Ferrers, E. Fitt, L. Flather, B. Foley, L. Fookes, B. Freyberg, L. Gallacher, L. Geraint, L. Gillmore of Thamesfield, L. Gladwin of Clee, L. Gladwyn, L. Glenamara, L. Goff of Chieveley, L. Gormanston, V. Goschen, V. Graham of Edmonton, L. Gray, L. Greenway, L. Gregson, L. Grenfell, L. Grey, E. Grimston of Westbury, L. Hacking, L. Haddington, E. Hailsham of Saint Marylebone, L. Halsbury, E. Hamwee, B. Hardie, L. Harding of Petherton, L. Hardwicke, E. Hardy of Wath, L. Harmar-Nicholls, L. Harris of Greenwich, L. Harrowby, E. Haskel, L. Hayhoe, L. Hayter, L. Healey, L. Hemphill, L. Henderson of Brompton, L. Henley, L. Hogg, B. Hogg of Cumbernauld, L. Holderness, L. Holme of Cheltenham, L. HolmPatrick, L. Hooper, B. Hooson, L. Howe, E. Howie of Troon, L. Hoyle, L. Hughes of Woodside, L. Hunt of Tanworth, L. Hurd of Westwell, L. Hussey of North Bradley, L. Hylton-Foster, B. Ilchester, E. Inglewood, L. Ironside, L. Iveagh, E. Jeffreys, L. Jellicoe, E. Jenkins of Hillhead, L. Jenkins of Putney, L. Judd, L. Kenilworth, L. Kilbracken, L. Kilmarnock, L. Kimball, L. Kimberley, E. Kingsland, L. Kinloss, Ly. Kinnoull, E. Kintore, E. Kirkhill, L. Kitchener, E. Knollys, V. Lane, L. Lane of Horsell, L. Lauderdale, E. Lawrence, L. Layton, L. Leathers, V. Leicester, Bp. Leigh, L. Lester of Herne Hill, L. Lewis of Newnham, L. Liverpool, E. Lockwood, B. Long, V. Longford, E. Lowry, L. Lucas of Chilworth, L. Ludford, B. Luke, L. McColl of Dulwich, L. McConnell, L. McIntosh of Haringey, L. Macleod of Borve, B. McNally, L. Mallalieu, B. Page 270 1997-98 Volume 231 Back to top Mar, C. Marsh, L. Mason of Barnsley, L. Massereene and Ferrard, V. Merlyn-Rees, L. Mersey, V. Miller of Hendon, B. Milner of Leeds, L. Milverton, L. Molloy, L. Molyneaux of Killead, L. Monk Bretton, L. Monkswell, L. Monson, L. Montagu of Beaulieu, L. Moran, L. Morris of Castle Morris, L. Mottistone, L. Mountevans, L. Mowbray and Stourton, L. Munster, E. Napier and Ettrick, L. Nelson, E. Newall, L. Newby, L. Noel-Buxton, L. Norrie, L. Northbourne, L. Northesk, E. Norton, L. Norwich, Bp. O’Cathain, B. Ogmore, L. Onslow, E. Oxfuird, V. Palmer, L. Park of Monmouth, B. Paul, L. Pearson of Rannoch, L. Pender, L. Perry of Walton, L. Peston, L. Peyton of Yeovil, L. Pilkington of Oxenford, L. Plant of Highfield, L. Platt of Writtle, B. Plummer of St. Marylebone, L. Prior, L. Quirk, L. Ramsay of Cartvale, B. Randall of St. Budeaux, L. Rankeillour, L. Rawlings, B. Rea, L. Reading, M. Rees, L. Rennell, L. Renton, L. Renwick, L. Richard, L. Roberts of Conwy, L. Rochester, L. Rodgers of Quarry Bank, L. Roll of Ipsden, L. Rosslyn, E. Rotherwick, L. Rowallan, L. Russell, E. Russell-Johnston, L. Sainsbury, L. St. John of Bletso, L. St. John of Fawsley, L. Sandhurst, L. Sandwich, E. Scanlon, L. Seccombe, B. Sefton of Garston, L. Sempill, L. Serota, B. Shannon, E. Shaughnessy, L. Shaw of Northstead, L. Shore of Stepney, L. Shrewsbury, E. Simon, V. Simon of Glaisdale, L. Skelmersdale, L. Skidelsky, L. Slim, V. Slynn of Hadley, L. Spens, L. Stallard, L. Stewartby, L. Stoddart of Swindon, L. Strabolgi, L. Strafford, E. Strathcarron, L. Sudeley, L. Swansea, L. Swinfen, L. Taverne, L. Taylor of Blackburn, L. Taylor of Gryfe, L. Taylor of Warwick, L. Tenby, V. Terrington, L. Teviot, L. Teynham, L. Thomas of Gwydir, L. Thomas of Walliswood, B. Thomson of Monifieth, L. Thurlow, L. Tordoff, L. Trefgarne, L. Trumpington, B. Tryon, L. Turner of Camden, B. Tweeddale, M. Tweedsmuir, L. Ullswater, V. Vivian, L. Waddington, L. Wade of Chorlton, L. Wakeham, L. Wallace of Saltaire, L. Walpole, L. Walton of Detchant, L. Waverley, V. Weatherill, L. Westbury, L. Wharton, B. Whitty, L. Wigoder, L. Wilberforce, L. Williams of Crosby, B. Williams of Elvel, L. Williams of Mostyn, L. Winchilsea and Nottingham, E. Wise, L. Wright of Richmond, L. Young, B. PRAYERS were read by the Lord Bishop of Chichester. 1. Baroness Amos—Miss Valerie Ann Amos, having been created Baroness Amos, of Brondesbury in the London Borough of Brent, for life by Letters Patent dated in the forenoon of 24th September 1997 (see appendix 1), was introduced between the Baroness Blackstone and the Baroness Dean of Thornton-le-Fylde, the Gentleman Usher of the Black Rod and Garter King of Arms preceding; and took and subscribed the oath pursuant to statute. 2. Baroness Ludford—Miss Sarah Ann Ludford, having been created Baroness Ludford, of Clerkenwell in the London Borough of Islington, for life by Letters Patent dated in the forenoon of 30th September 1997 (see appendix 2), was introduced between the Baroness Hamwee and the Lord Wallace of Saltaire, the Gentleman Usher of the Black Rod and Garter King of Arms preceding; and took and subscribed the oath pursuant to statute. 3. Oath—John Earl of Kimberley took and subscribed the oath pursuant to statute. Judicial Business 4. Appeal Committee—The 29th Report from the Appeal Committee was agreed to and the following Orders were made— Preston and others (Petitioners) v. Wolverhampton Healthcare NHS Trust and others (Respondents)—That the respondents be invited to lodge objections by 6th November next. Page 271 1997-98 Volume 231 Back to top In re Abdulla (Petitioner)—That leave to appeal be refused; that the respondents be at liberty to apply for their costs in accordance with direction 6.1(e) and, if the application is granted, that the amount thereof be certified by the Clerk of the Parliaments if not agreed between the parties. In re Kiriakos (Petitioner) (application for a Writ of Habeas Corpus)—That the respondents be invited to lodge objections by 6th November next. Chant and Fairlie (Petitioner) and others v. Secretary of State for the Environment and others (Respondents)—That leave to appeal be refused; that the respondents be at liberty to apply for their costs in accordance with direction 5.1(d) and, if the application is granted, that the amount thereof be certified by the Clerk of the Parliaments if not agreed between the parties. A. Meredith Jones & Co. Limited (Petitioners) v. Vangemar Shipping Co. Limited (Respondents)—That leave to appeal be refused; that the respondents be at liberty to apply for their costs in accordance with direction 5.1(d) and, if the application is granted, that the amount thereof be certified by the Clerk of the Parliaments if not agreed between the parties. Loughran (Respondent) v. Northern Ireland Housing Executive (Petitioners) (Northern Ireland)—That the respondents be invited to lodge objections by 6th November next. Kelly (Petitioner) v. Northern Ireland Housing Executive (Respondents) (Northern Ireland)—That the respondents be invited to lodge objections by 6th November next. Public Business 5. Human Rights Bill [HL]—A bill to give further effect to rights and freedoms guaranteed under the European Convention on Human Rights; to make provision with respect to holders of certain judicial offices who become judges of the European Court of Human Rights; and for connected purposes was presented by the Lord Chancellor, read a first time and ordered to be printed. (HL Bill 38) 6. Nuclear Explosions (Prohibition and Inspections) Bill [HL]—The bill was read a third time; a privilege amendment was agreed to; then the bill was passed and sent to the Commons. 7. Fossil Fuel Levy Bill [HL]—The bill was read a third time and passed and sent to the Commons. 8. Plant Varieties Bill—The House resolved itself into a Committee upon the bill; amendments were agreed to; amendments were moved and (by leave of the Committee) withdrawn; the House was resumed and the bill was reported with amendments; it was ordered that the bill be printed as amended. (HL Bill 39) 9. British Nationality (St Helena) Bill [HL]—It was moved by the Earl of Iveagh that the bill be now read a second time; after debate, the motion was agreed to and the bill was committed to a Committee of the Whole House. 10. Criminal justice—The Lord Hacking asked Her Majesty’s Government, in the light of the statement by the Home Secretary made in the House of Commons on 30th July, what are their proposals for the criminal justice system in England and Wales; after debate, the question was answered by the Lord Williams of Mostyn. The House was adjourned at one minute past seven o’clock to Monday next, a quarter-past two o’clock. APPENDIX 1 ELIZABETH THE SECOND by the Grace of God of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland and of Our other Realms and Territories Queen Head of the Commonwealth Defender of the Faith To all Lords Spiritual and Temporal and all other Our Subjects whatsoever to whom these Presents shall come Greeting Know Ye that We of Our especial grace certain knowledge and mere motion in pursuance of the Life Peerages Act 1958 and of all other powers in that behalf Us enabling do by these Presents advance create and prefer Our trusty and well beloved Miss Valerie Ann Amos to the state degree style dignity title and honour of Baroness Amos of Brondesbury in Our London Borough of Brent And for Us Our heirs and successors do appoint give and grant unto her the said name state degree style dignity title and honour of Baroness Amos to have and to hold unto her for her life Willing and by these Presents granting for Us Our heirs and successors that she may have hold and possess a seat place and voice in the Parliaments and Public Assemblies and Councils of Us Our heirs and successors within Our United Kingdom amongst the Barons And also that she may enjoy and use all the rights privileges pre-eminences immunities and advantages to the degree of a Baron duly and of right belonging which Barons of Our United Kingdom have heretofore used and enjoyed or as they do at present use and enjoy In Witness whereof We have caused these Our Letters to be made Patent Witness Ourself at Westminster in the forenoon of the twenty-fourth day of September in the forty-sixth year of Our Reign BY WARRANT UNDER THE QUEEN’S SIGN MANUAL Page 272 1997-98 Volume 231 Back to top APPENDIX 2 ELIZABETH THE SECOND by the Grace of God of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland and of Our other Realms and Territories Queen Head of the Commonwealth Defender of the Faith To all Lords Spiritual and Temporal and all other Our Subjects whatsoever to whom these Presents shall come Greeting Know Ye that We of Our especial grace certain knowledge and mere motion in pursuance of the Life Peerages Act 1958 and of all other powers in that behalf Us enabling do by these Presents advance create and prefer Our trusty and well beloved Miss Sarah Ann Ludford to the state degree style dignity title and honour of Baroness Ludford of Clerkenwell in Our London Borough of Islington And for Us Our heirs and successors do appoint give and grant unto her the said name state degree style dignity title and honour of Baroness Ludford to have and to hold unto her for her life Willing and by these Presents granting for Us Our heirs and successors that she may have hold and possess a seat place and voice in the Parliaments and Public Assemblies and Councils of Us Our heirs and successors within Our United Kingdom amongst the Barons And also that she may enjoy and use all the rights privileges pre-eminences immunities and advantages to the degree of a Baron duly and of right belonging which Barons of Our United Kingdom have heretofore used and enjoyed or as they do at present use and enjoy In Witness whereof We have caused these Our Letters to be made Patent Witness Ourself at Westminster in the forenoon of the thirtieth day of September in the forty-sixth year of Our Reign BY WARRANT UNDER THE QUEEN’S SIGN MANUAL