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House of Lords Journal 231 (Session 1997-98)


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1997-98

Volume 231      

Monday 1 December 1997

The House met at half-past two o’clock.

The following Lords Spiritual and Temporal were present:

Irvine of Lairg, L.
(Lord Chancellor)

Aberdare, L.
Ackner, L.
Addington, L.
Addison, V.
Ailesbury, M.
Ailsa, M.
Alderdice, L.
Alexander of Tunis, E.
Allenby of Megiddo, V.
Amos, B.
Annan, L.
Archer of Sandwell, L.
Ashley of Stoke, L.
Astor of Hever, L.
Attenborough, L.
Avebury, L.
Barnard, L.
Barnett, L.
Bassam of Brighton, L.
Beaumont of Whitley, L.
Belhaven and Stenton, L.
Beloff, L.
Belstead, L.
Berkeley, L.
Biffen, L.
Birdwood, L.
Blackburn, Bp.
Blatch, B.
Blease, L.
Blyth, L.
Boardman, L.
Borrie, L.
Boston of Faversham, L.
Bowness, L.
Brabazon of Tara, L.
Bradford, Bp.
Brentford, V.
Bridges, L.
Brightman, L.
Bristol, Bp.
Broadbridge, L.
Brooke of Alverthorpe, L.
Brookeborough, V.
Brooks of Tremorfa, L.
Brougham and Vaux, L.
Broughshane, L.
Bruce of Donington, L.
Bruntisfield, L.
Burlison, L.
Burnham, L.
Butterworth, L.
Cadman, L.
Callaghan of Cardiff, L.
Campbell of Alloway, L.
Campbell of Croy, L.
Carlisle, E.
Carmichael of Kelvingrove, L.
Carnegy of Lour, B.
Carnock, L.
Carter, L.
Chalfont, L.
Chalker of Wallasey, B.
Charteris of Amisfield, L.
Chesham, L.
Chorley, L.
Clancarty, E.
Clanwilliam, E.
Clark of Kempston, L.
Cledwyn of Penrhos, L.
Clitheroe, L.
Cockfield, L.
Cocks of Hartcliffe, L.
Coleraine, L.
Coleridge, L.
Colville of Culross, V.
Colwyn, L.
Constantine of Stanmore, L.
Cooke of Islandreagh, L.
Cope of Berkeley, L.
Cottesloe, L.
Courtown, E.
Cowdrey of Tonbridge, L.
Cox, B.
Craig of Radley, L.
Craigavon, V.
Cranborne, V.
Cranworth, L.
Croham, L.
Cross, V.
Cuckney, L.
Cullen of Ashbourne, L.
Currie of Marylebone, L.
Dahrendorf, L.
Darcy de Knayth, B.
David, B.
Davidson, V.
Davies of Coity, L.
Davies of Oldham, L.
De Freyne, L.
Dean of Beswick, L.
Dean of Harptree, L.
Denbigh, E.
Denham, L.
Desai, L.
Devonport, V.
Dholakia, L.
Diamond, L.
Dilhorne, V.
Dixon, L.
Dixon-Smith, L.
Donaldson of Lymington, L.
Dormand of Easington, L.
Dubs, L.
Dunrossil, V.
Eatwell, L.
Elibank, L.
Elis-Thomas, L.
Ellenborough, L.
Elles, B.
Elliott of Morpeth, L.
Erroll, E.
Evans of Parkside, L.
Ewing of Kirkford, L.
Exmouth, V.
Ezra, L.
Falconer of Thoroton, L.
Falkland, V.
Farrington of Ribbleton, B.
Ferrers, E.
Fitt, L.
Flather, B.
Fookes, B.
Freyberg, L.
Gainford, L.
Gallacher, L.
Gardner of Parkes, B.
Garel-Jones, L.
Geddes, L.
Geraint, L.
Gerard, L.
Gibson-Watt, L.
Gladwin of Clee, L.
Glenamara, L.
Glentoran, L.
Goodhart, L.
Gordon of Strathblane, L.
Gormanston, V.
Gould of Potternewton, B.
Graham of Edmonton, L.
Gray of Contin, L.
Greenway, L.
Gregson, L.
Grey, E.
Hailsham of Saint Marylebone, L.
Hardie, L.
Hardy of Wath, L.
Harlech, L.
Harris of Greenwich, L.
Haskel, L.
Haslam, L.
Hayhoe, L.
Hayman, B.
Healey, L.
Henderson of Brompton, L.
Henley, L.
Hereford, Bp.
Higgins, L.
Hilton of Eggardon, B.
Hogg, B.
Hogg of Cumbernauld, L.
Holderness, L.
Hollick, L.
Hollis of Heigham, B.
Holme of Cheltenham, L.
HolmPatrick, L.
Hooper, B.
Hooson, L.

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Hope of Craighead, L.
Howe, E.
Howie of Troon, L.
Hoyle, L.
Hughes, L.
Hughes of Woodside, L.
Hunt of Kings Heath, L.
Hunt of Wirral, L.
Hussey of North Bradley, L.
Hutchinson of Lullington, L.
Hylton, L.
Hylton-Foster, B.
Ilchester, E.
Inge, L.
Ironside, L.
Islwyn, L.
Janner of Braunstone, L.
Jay of Paddington, B.
Jeffreys, L.
Jeger, B.
Jellicoe, E.
Jenkin of Roding, L.
Jenkins of Putney, L.
Johnston of Rockport, L.
Jopling, L.
Kenilworth, L.
Kennedy of The Shaws, B.
Kennet, L.
Kenyon, L.
Keyes, L.
Kilbracken, L.
Kilmarnock, L.
Kingsland, L.
Kinloss, Ly.
Kinnoull, E.
Lang of Monkton, L.
Lauderdale, E.
Lawrence, L.
Layton, L.
Leathers, V.
Leicester, E.
Leicester, Bp.
Leigh, L.
Lestor of Eccles, B.
Levy, L.
Liverpool, E.
Lloyd-George of Dwyfor, E.
Lockwood, B.
Lofthouse of Pontefract, L.
Longford, E.
Lovell-Davis, L.
Lowry, L.
Lucas, L.
Lucas of Chilworth, L.
Ludford, B.
Luke, L.
Lyell, L.
Lytton, E.
McCarthy, L.
McColl of Dulwich, L.
McConnell, L.
McIntosh of Haringey, L.
Mackay of Ardbrecknish, L.
Macleod of Borve, B.
McNair, L.
McNally, L.
Maddock, B.
Mallalieu, B.
Mar, C.
Marlesford, L.
Marsh, L.
Masham of Ilton, B.
Mason of Barnsley, L.
Massereene and Ferrard, V.
Merlyn-Rees, L.
Mersey, V.
Meston, L.
Milner of Leeds, L.
Milverton, L.
Mishcon, L.
Molyneaux of Killead, L.
Monkswell, L.
Monro of Langholm, L.
Monson, L.
Montagu of Beaulieu, L.
Montague of Oxford, L.
Montgomery of Alamein, V.
Moore of Wolvercote, L.
Moran, L.
Morris of Castle Morris, L.
Morris of Manchester, L.
Mottistone, L.
Mountevans, L.
Mowbray and Stourton, L.
Moyne, L.
Moynihan, L.
Munster, E.
Murray of Epping Forest, L.
Murton of Lindisfarne, L.
Napier and Ettrick, L.
Nelson, E.
Newton of Braintree, L.
Nicholson of Winterbourne, B.
Nicol, B.
Noel-Buxton, L.
Norrie, L.
Northbourne, L.
Northesk, E.
Ogmore, L.
Onslow, E.
Orme, L.
Oxfuird, V.
Palmer, L.
Park of Monmouth, B.
Paul, L.
Pearson of Rannoch, L.
Pender, L.
Perry of Southwark, B.
Perry of Walton, L.
Peston, L.
Peyton of Yeovil, L.
Phillips of Ellesmere, L.
Pitkeathley, B.
Plant of Highfield, L.
Prys-Davies, L.
Puttnam, L.
Quirk, L.
Ramsay of Cartvale, B.
Randall of St. Budeaux, L.
Rankeillour, L.
Rathcavan, L.
Rawlings, B.
Razzall, L.
Rea, L.
Redesdale, L.
Rendell of Babergh, B.
Rennell, L.
Renton, L.
Renwick, L.
Renwick of Clifton, L.
Richard, L.
Roberts of Conwy, L.
Rodgers of Quarry Bank, L.
Rogers of Riverside, L.
Rosslyn, E.
Rowallan, L.
Sainsbury, L.
St. John of Bletso, L.
St. John of Fawsley, L.
Saltoun of Abernethy, Ly.
Sandberg, L.
Sanderson of Bowden, L.
Sandwich, E.
Seccombe, B.
Sefton of Garston, L.
Selborne, E.
Sempill, L.
Serota, B.
Sewel, L.
Shannon, E.
Sharples, B.
Shaughnessy, L.
Shaw of Northstead, L.
Shepherd, L.
Shore of Stepney, L.
Simon, V.
Simon of Glaisdale, L.
Skelmersdale, L.
Slim, V.
Smith of Gilmorehill, B.
Soulsby of Swaffham Prior, L.
Stallard, L.
Stanley of Alderley, L.
Steel of Aikwood, L.
Stewartby, L.
Stoddart of Swindon, L.
Strabolgi, L.
Strathalmond, L.
Strathcarron, L.
Strathclyde, L.
Sudeley, L.
Swansea, L.
Swinfen, L.
Symons of Vernham Dean, B.
Taverne, L.
Taylor of Blackburn, L.
Taylor of Warwick, L.
Tebbit, L.
Tenby, V.
Teviot, L.
Teynham, L.
Thomas of Gwydir, L.
Thomas of Macclesfield, L.
Thomas of Walliswood, B.
Thomson of Monifieth, L.
Thurlow, L.
Tope, L.
Trumpington, B.
Turner of Camden, B.
Ullswater, V.
Varley, L.
Vivian, L.
Waddington, L.
Wakeham, L.
Walker of Doncaster, L.
Wallace of Saltaire, L.
Walton of Detchant, L.

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Waverley, V.
Weatherill, L.
Westbury, L.
Whaddon, L.
Wharton, B.
Whitelaw, V.
Whitty, L.
Wilberforce, L.
Wilcox, B.
Williams of Elvel, L.
Williams of Mostyn, L.
Wilson of Tillyorn, L.
Winchilsea and Nottingham, E.
Winston, L.
Wise, L.
Wright of Richmond, L.
Young of Old Scone, B.

PRAYERS were read by the Lord Bishop of Bristol.

1.Oath—Anthony Robert Hugo Lord Gerard took and subscribed the oath pursuant to statute.

Judicial Business

2.Hurst (Petitioner) v. Bryk and others (Respondents) (lodged 2nd June)—The petition of Robert Alfred Hurst praying for leave to appeal was presented without payment of the fee, such fee having been waived by the Appeal Committee pursuant to Standing Order XII; the said petition was referred to an Appeal Committee.
3.Waters (Petitioner) v. Commissioner of Police for the Metropolis (Respondent) (lodged 27th November)—The petition of Eileen Annette Waters praying for leave to appeal was presented and referred to an Appeal Committee.
4.De Souza (Petitioner) v. Automobile Association (Respondents)—The petition of Maria De Souza praying for leave to appeal was presented and referred to an Appeal Committee.
5.Loughran (Respondent) v. Northern Ireland Housing Executive (Appellants) (Northern Ireland)—It was ordered that the appellants be allowed to prosecute the appeal without giving the usual security for costs as required by Standing Order.
6.Regina v. Secretary of State for the Home Department (Respondent) ex parte O’Dwyer (A.P.) (Petitioner) (Northern Ireland)—The petitioner’s legal aid certificate was lodged.
7.Appeal Committee—The following Order was made pursuant to the 31st Report—

Kuwait Airways Corporation and another (Petitioners) v. Kuwait Insurance Company S A K and others (Respondents)—That leave to appeal be given and that the petition of appeal be lodged by 15th December next.

8.Appeal Committee—The 35th Report from the Appeal Committee was agreed to and the following Orders were made—

Regina v. Secretary of State for the Home Department (Respondent) ex parte Quigley (A.P.) (Petitioner) (Northern Ireland)—That leave to appeal be refused; that the costs of the petitioner be taxed in accordance with the Legal Aid, Advice and Assistance (Northern Ireland) Order 1981; and that the respondent be at liberty to apply for his costs in accordance with direction 5.1(c) and if the application is granted, that the amount thereof be certified by the Clerk of the Parliaments if not agreed between the parties.

Regina v. Secretary of State for the Home Department (Respondent) ex parte O’Dwyer (A.P.) (Petitioner) (Northern Ireland)—That leave to appeal be refused; that the costs of the petitioner be taxed in accordance with the Legal Aid, Advice and Assistance (Northern Ireland) Order 1981; and that the respondent be at liberty to apply for her costs in accordance with direction 5.1(c) and if the application is granted, that the amount thereof be certified by the Clerk of the Parliaments if not agreed between the parties.

Svenska International Plc (Petitioners) v. Commissioners of Customs and Excise (Respondents)—That the respondents be invited to lodge objections by 15th December next.

Norton Healthcare Limited (Respondents) v. Beecham Group Plc (Petitioners)—That leave to appeal be refused; that the respondents be at liberty to apply for their costs in accordance with direction 5.1(d) and if the application is granted, that the amount thereof be certified by the Clerk of the Parliaments if not agreed between the parties.

Thurston (A.P.) (Respondent) v. Coates Allbutt Edmondson & Taylor (Petitioners)—That leave to appeal be refused; that the respondent be at liberty to apply for her costs in accordance with direction 5.1(b) and if the application is granted, that the amount thereof be certified by the Clerk of the Parliaments if not agreed between the parties, and that the costs of the respondent be taxed in accordance with the Legal Aid Act 1988.

Hurst (Petitioner) v. Bryk and others (Respondents)—That the respondents be invited to lodge objections by 15th December next.

Papers

9.Command Paper—The following paper was presented to the House by command of Her Majesty and ordered to lie on the Table:

Non-profit Organisations—Department for Education and Employment Minute concerning the Disposal of Surplus Computer Equipment to Non-Profit Organisations.

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10.Statutory Instruments (Standing Order 68)—The following negative instruments, having been laid before the House on 28th November, were ordered to lie on the Table:
1.Non-Domestic Rating (Rural Settlements) (England) Order 1997, laid under the Local Government Finance Act 1988;
 (2792)
2.Diving at Work Regulations 1997, laid under the Health and Safety at Work etc. Act 1974;
 (2776)
3.Non-Domestic Rating (Rural Areas and Rateable Value Limits) (Scotland) Order 1997, laid under the Local Government and Rating Act 1997;
 (2827)
4.Act of Sederunt (Fees of Sheriff Officers) 1997, laid under the Sheriff Courts (Scotland) Act 1907;
 (2824)
5.Insolvent Companies (Reports on Conduct of Directors) Rules (Northern Ireland) 1997, laid under the Insolvency (Northern Ireland) Order 1989.
 (—)
11.Negative Instruments—The following instruments were laid before the House and ordered to lie on the Table:
1.Building Societies (Members’ Resolutions) Order 1997, laid under the Building Societies Act 1986;
 (2840)
2.Sea Fishing (Enforcement of Community Conservation Measures) (Amendment) Order 1997, laid under the Fisheries Act 1981;
 (2841)
3.Income-related Benefits (Miscellaneous Amendments) Regulations 1997, laid under the Social Security Contributions and Benefits Act 1992.
 (2793)
12.Papers not subject to parliamentary proceedings—The following papers were laid before the House and ordered to lie on the Table:
1.Accounts for 1996–97 of the Police Authority for Northern Ireland, together with the Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General, laid under the Police Act (Northern Ireland) 1970;
2.Accounts for 1996–97 of the Particle Physics and Astronomy Research Council (PPARC), together with the Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General, laid under the Science and Technology Act 1965.
13.Registration of Interests—The Register of Lords’ Interests, prepared by the Clerk of the Parliaments pursuant to the Resolution of 7th November 1995, was ordered to lie on the Table and to be printed. (HL Paper 45)

Public Business

14.Public Processions etc. (Northern Ireland) Bill [HL]—The report was received; amendments were moved and (by leave of the House) withdrawn.
15.Sudan—The Lord McNair asked Her Majesty’s Government what is their attitude towards the recent moves to end the civil war in the Sudan, the historic links between the United Kingdom and the Sudan, and the case for an end to sanctions; after debate, the question was answered by the Baroness Symons of Vernham Dean.

The House was adjourned at twelve minutes before seven o’clock
till tomorrow, half-past two o’clock.