House of Lords Journal 231 (Session 1997-98)

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Monday 9 February 1998

The House met at half-past two o’clock.

The following Lords Spiritual and Temporal were present:

Irvine of Lairg, L.
(Lord Chancellor)

Aberdare, L.
Ackner, L.
Acton, L.
Addington, L.
Addison, V.
Ailesbury, M.
Ailsa, M.
Alexander of Tunis, E.
Allenby of Megiddo, V.
Alton of Liverpool, L.
Amherst of Hackney, L.
Amos, B.
Ampthill, L.
Anelay of St. Johns, B.
Annaly, L.
Annan, L.
Archer of Sandwell, L.
Archer of Weston-Super-Mare, L.
Ashley of Stoke, L.
Avebury, L.
Banbury of Southam, L.
Barnett, L.
Bassam of Brighton, L.
Bath and Wells, Bp.
Beaumont of Whitley, L.
Belhaven and Stenton, L.
Beloff, L.
Belstead, L.
Berkeley, L.
Bethell, L.
Biddulph, L.
Biffen, L.
Birdwood, L.
Birkett, L.
Blackburn, Bp.
Blackstone, B.
Blaker, L.
Blatch, B.
Blease, L.
Blyth, L.
Boardman, L.
Borrie, L.
Boston of Faversham, L.
Braine of Wheatley, L.
Brentford, V.
Bridge of Harwich, L.
Bridgeman, V.
Brightman, L.
Brooke of Alverthorpe, L.
Brookeborough, V.
Brooks of Tremorfa, L.
Brougham and Vaux, L.
Broughshane, L.
Bruce of Donington, L.
Bruntisfield, L.
Buckinghamshire, E.
Burlison, L.
Burnham, L.
Butterfield, L.
Butterworth, L.
 Cadman, L.
Caithness, E.
Calverley, L.
Campbell of Alloway, L.
Campbell of Croy, L.
Carlisle, E.
Carlisle, Bp.
Carlisle of Bucklow, L.
Carmichael of Kelvingrove, L.
Carnarvon, E.
Carnegy of Lour, B.
Carnock, L.
Carter, L.
Castle of Blackburn, B.
Chalfont, L.
Chalker of Wallasey, B.
Chandos, V.
Charteris of Amisfield, L.
Chelmsford, V.
Chesham, L.
Chichester, Bp.
Clancarty, E.
Clanwilliam, E.
Cledwyn of Penrhos, L.
Clinton-Davis, L.
Cobbold, L.
Cockfield, L.
Cocks of Hartcliffe, L.
Coleraine, L.
Colville of Culross, V.
Colwyn, L.
Cooke of Islandreagh, L.
Cope of Berkeley, L.
Courtown, E.
Cox, B.
Craig of Radley, L.
Craigavon, V.
Crickhowell, L.
Crook, L.
Cuckney, L.
Cumberlege, B.
Currie of Marylebone, L.
Dahrendorf, L.
Darcy de Knayth, B.
David, B.
Davidson, V.
Davies of Coity, L.
Davies of Oldham, L.
De Freyne, L.
De Ramsey, L.
Dean of Beswick, L.
Dean of Thornton-le-Fylde, B.
Denbigh, E.
Denham, L.
Denton of Wakefield, B.
Desai, L.
Diamond, L.
Dixon, L.
Dixon-Smith, L.
Donoughue, L.
 Dormand of Easington, L.
Drogheda, E.
Dubs, L.
Dundee, E.
Durham, Bp.
Eatwell, L.
Elis-Thomas, L.
Ellenborough, L.
Elles, B.
Elliott of Morpeth, L.
Elton, L.
Erroll, E.
Evans of Parkside, L.
Exmouth, V.
Ezra, L.
Falconer of Thoroton, L.
Falkland, V.
Farrington of Ribbleton, B.
Feversham, L.
Fitt, L.
Flather, B.
Fookes, B.
Fraser of Carmyllie, L.
Freyberg, L.
Gainford, L.
Gainsborough, E.
Gallacher, L.
Gardner of Parkes, B.
Garel-Jones, L.
Geddes, L.
Geraint, L.
Gilbert, L.
Gilmour of Craigmillar, L.
Gladwin of Clee, L.
Gladwyn, L.
Gordon of Strathblane, L.
Gormanston, V.
Goschen, V.
Gould of Potternewton, B.
Gray of Contin, L.
Greenway, L.
Grenfell, L.
Grey, E.
Habgood, L.
Halsbury, E.
Hamwee, B.
Hanworth, V.
Hardie, L.
Harding of Petherton, L.
Hardwicke, E.
Hardy of Wath, L.
Harmsworth, L.
Harris of Greenwich, L.
Harris of High Cross, L.
Harrowby, E.
Haskel, L.
Hattersley, L.
Hayhoe, L.
Hayman, B.
Henderson of Brompton, L.

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Henley, L.
Hereford, Bp.
Higgins, L.
Hilton of Eggardon, B.
Hogg of Cumbernauld, L.
Holderness, L.
Hollis of Heigham, B.
HolmPatrick, L.
Hooson, L.
Hope of Craighead, L.
Howe, E.
Howell, L.
Howell of Guildford, L.
Howie of Troon, L.
Hoyle, L.
Hughes, L.
Hughes of Woodside, L.
Hunt of Kings Heath, L.
Hunt of Tanworth, L.
Hunt of Wirral, L.
Hurd of Westwell, L.
Hylton-Foster, B.
Inglewood, L.
Ironside, L.
Islwyn, L.
Jacobs, L.
Janner of Braunstone, L.
Jay of Paddington, B.
Jeffreys, L.
Jeger, B.
Jenkin of Roding, L.
Jenkins of Hillhead, L.
Jenkins of Putney, L.
Johnston of Rockport, L.
Jopling, L.
Judd, L.
Kennedy of The Shaws, B.
Kilbracken, L.
Kilmarnock, L.
Kimball, L.
Kingsland, L.
Knight of Collingtree, B.
Lang of Monkton, L.
Lauderdale, E.
Lawrence, L.
Lawson of Blaby, L.
Layton, L.
Leigh, L.
Lester of Herne Hill, L.
Levene of Port Soken, L.
Lichfield, Bp.
Linklater of Butterstone, B.
Liverpool, E.
Lloyd of Berwick, L.
Lockwood, B.
Lofthouse of Pontefract, L.
London, Bp.
Long, V.
Longford, E.
Lovell-Davis, L.
Lowry, L.
Lucas of Chilworth, L.
Ludford, B.
Luke, L.
Lyell, L.
McCarthy, L.
McColl of Dulwich, L.
McConnell, L.
McIntosh of Haringey, L.
 Mackay of Ardbrecknish, L.
Mackie of Benshie, L.
McNair, L.
McNally, L.
Maddock, B.
Mallalieu, B.
Mancroft, L.
Mar, C.
Mar and Kellie, E.
Marlesford, L.
Marsh, L.
Masham of Ilton, B.
Mason of Barnsley, L.
Merlyn-Rees, L.
Mersey, V.
Meston, L.
Methuen, L.
Miller of Hendon, B.
Milner of Leeds, L.
Milverton, L.
Mishcon, L.
Molloy, L.
Molyneaux of Killead, L.
Monkswell, L.
Monro of Langholm, L.
Monson, L.
Montagu of Beaulieu, L.
Montague of Oxford, L.
Montgomery of Alamein, V.
Moran, L.
Morris of Manchester, L.
Mottistone, L.
Mountevans, L.
Moyne, L.
Moynihan, L.
Munster, E.
Murray of Epping Forest, L.
Murton of Lindisfarne, L.
Napier and Ettrick, L.
Naseby, L.
Nelson, E.
Newall, L.
Newby, L.
Newton of Braintree, L.
Nicholson of Winterbourne, B.
Nicol, B.
Noel-Buxton, L.
Nolan, L.
Norrie, L.
Northesk, E.
Norton, L.
Norwich, Bp.
O’Cathain, B.
Ogmore, L.
Onslow of Woking, L.
Orme, L.
Oxford, Bp.
Oxfuird, V.
Palmer, L.
Park of Monmouth, B.
Paul, L.
Peel, E.
Pender, L.
Perry of Walton, L.
Peston, L.
Pilkington of Oxenford, L.
Pitkeathley, B.
Plant of Highfield, L.
 Platt of Writtle, B.
Ponsonby of Shulbrede, L.
Porter of Luddenham, L.
Prys-Davies, L.
Puttnam, L.
Pym, L.
Quinton, L.
Quirk, L.
Ramsay of Cartvale, B.
Randall of St. Budeaux, L.
Rankeillour, L.
Rawlings, B.
Rea, L.
Reading, M.
Redesdale, L.
Rees, L.
Rees-Mogg, L.
Rendell of Babergh, B.
Renfrew of Kaimsthorn, L.
Rennell, L.
Renton, L.
Renwick, L.
Renwick of Clifton, L.
Richard, L.
Ripon, Bp.
Roberts of Conwy, L.
Rochester, L.
Rodgers of Quarry Bank, L.
Rogers of Riverside, L.
Roll of Ipsden, L.
Romney, E.
Rotherwick, L.
Rowallan, L.
Russell of Liverpool, L.
Russell-Johnston, L.
Ryder of Wensum, L.
Sainsbury, L.
Sainsbury of Turville, L.
Saint Albans, D.
St. John of Bletso, L.
St. John of Fawsley, L.
Saltoun of Abernethy, Ly.
Sandberg, L.
Sandhurst, L.
Seccombe, B.
Sefton of Garston, L.
Selborne, E.
Selkirk of Douglas, L.
Sempill, L.
Serota, B.
Sewel, L.
Shannon, E.
Shaughnessy, L.
Shaw of Northstead, L.
Shore of Stepney, L.
Simon, V.
Simon of Glaisdale, L.
Simon of Highbury, L.
Skelmersdale, L.
Skidelsky, L.
Slim, V.
Smith of Gilmorehill, B.
Spens, L.
Stallard, L.
Stanley of Alderley, L.
Stevens of Ludgate, L.
Stockton, E.
Stoddart of Swindon, L.
Stone of Blackheath, L.
Strabolgi, L.

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Strathclyde, L.
Sudeley, L.
Swansea, L.
Swinfen, L.
Symons of Vernham Dean, B.
Taverne, L.
Taylor of Blackburn, L.
Taylor of Gryfe, L.
Taylor of Warwick, L.
Tenby, V.
Teviot, L.
Thomas of Gresford, L.
Thomas of Gwydir, L.
Thomas of Macclesfield, L.
Thomas of Walliswood, B.
Thomson of Monifieth, L.
Thurso, V.
 Tope, L.
Tordoff, L.
Trenchard, V.
Trumpington, B.
Turner of Camden, B.
Tweeddale, M.
Ullswater, V.
Varley, L.
Vivian, L.
Waddington, L.
Wade of Chorlton, L.
Wakefield, Bp.
Walker of Doncaster, L.
Wallace of Saltaire, L.
Watson of Invergowrie, L.
Waverley, V.
 Weatherill, L.
Wedderburn of Charlton, L.
Westbury, L.
Whaddon, L.
Whitelaw, V.
Whitty, L.
Wigoder, L.
Wilcox, B.
Williams of Crosby, B.
Williams of Elvel, L.
Williams of Mostyn, L.
Winchester, Bp.
Winchilsea and Nottingham, E.
Wise, L.
Wolfson, L.
Wright of Richmond, L.
Young of Dartington, L.

PRAYERS were read by the Lord Bishop of Chichester.

Judicial Business

1.Regina v. Immigration Appeal Tribunal and another (Respondents) ex parte Shah (A.P.) (Appellant) (England)—The appeal of Syeda Khatoon Shah was presented and it was ordered that in accordance with Standing Order VI the statement and appendix thereto be lodged on or before 23rd March next.
2.In re Kiriakos (Appellant) (application for a writ of Habeas Corpus)—The appeal of Sami Saad Alla Bdbah Kiriakos was presented and ordered to be prosecuted subject to the procedures applicable thereto.
3.Luton Borough Council (Respondents) v. Triumph Ovens Ltd and Levy (A.P.) (Petitioner)—The petition of Moshe Levy praying for leave to appeal was presented and referred to an Appeal Committee. The petitioner’s legal aid certificate was lodged.
4.Kuwait Airways Corporation and another (Appellants) v. Kuwait Insurance Company S A K and others (Respondents)—The appeal was set down for hearing and referred to an Appellate Committee.

Papers

5.Statutory Instruments (Standing Order 68)—The following negative instruments, having been laid before the House on 6th February, were ordered to lie on the Table:
1.Building Societies (Transfer of Business) Regulations 1998, laid under the Building Societies Act 1986;
 (212)
2. (i)Local Authorities (Alteration of Requisite Calculations) Regulations 1998—(213)
(ii)Local Government Changes for England (Council Tax) (Transitional Reduction) Regulations 1998—(214)
 laid under the Local Government Finance Act 1992;
3.Pre-Sentence Report Disclosure (Prescription of Prosecutors) Order 1998, laid under the Crime (Sentences) Act 1997;
 (191)
4.Education (Student Loans) Regulations 1998, laid under the Education (Student Loans) Act 1990.
 (211)
6.Affirmative Instrument—The following instrument was laid before the House for approval by resolution and ordered to lie on the Table:

Draft Local Authorities (Transport Charges) Regulations 1998.

7.Negative Instruments—The following instruments were laid before the House and ordered to lie on the Table:
1.Statute made by the University of Oxford on 15th October 1997, laid under the Universities of Oxford and Cambridge Act 1923;
 (—)
2.New Deal (Miscellaneous Provisions) Order 1998, laid under the Employment Act 1988;
 (217)
3.Education (Modification of Enactments Relating to Employment) Order 1998, laid under the Education Act 1996.
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8.Paper not subject to parliamentary proceedings—The following paper was laid before the House and ordered to lie on the Table:

Report for 1997 on the operation of the Chemical Weapons Act 1996 by the Secretary of State for Trade and Industry, laid under the Chemical Weapons Act 1996.

Private Business

9.London Local Authorities Bill [HL]—The petitions against the bill from Petbridge Limited (No. 5) and Standard Distributions (Periodicals) Limited (No. 9) were withdrawn.

Public Business

10.Audit Commission Bill [HL]—It was moved by the Lord Chancellor that the bill be now read a second time; the motion was agreed to and the bill was referred to the Joint Committee on Consolidation Bills.
11.Petroleum Bill [HL]—The order of re-commitment was discharged.
12.Public Processions (Northern Ireland) Bill [HL]—The Commons amendments were considered and agreed to, and the privilege amendment was agreed to.
13.Competition Bill [HL]—The report was received; amendments were moved and (by leave of the House) withdrawn; amendments were agreed to; an amendment was agreed to (see division list); further consideration on report was adjourned.
14.Video Recordings Act 1984—It was moved by the Lord Campbell of Croy that this House take note of the proposal to appoint Mr. Andreas Whittam-Smith as a designated authority under section 4(4) of the Video Recordings Act 1984, in accordance with the proposal laid before the House on 18th December 1997; after debate, the motion was agreed to.
15.Competition Bill [HL]—The bill was further considered on report; amendments were agreed to; amendments were moved and (by leave of the House) withdrawn; further consideration on report was adjourned after amendment 83.

The House was adjourned at eleven minutes past eleven o’clock
till tomorrow, half-past two o’clock.

DIVISION

COMPETITION BILL [HL]

It was moved by the Lord McNally, after Clause 18, to insert the new Clause (Abuse of dominant position by national newspaper); which being objected to, the question was put thereupon, and the House divided:

Contents.............121

Not-Contents.............93

CONTENTS

Ackner, L.
Addington, L.
Ampthill, L.
Annaly, L.
Annan, L.
Ashley of Stoke, L.
Avebury, L.
Barnett, L.
Beaumont of Whitley, L.
Berkeley, L.
Biddulph, L.
Birdwood, L.
Boardman, L.
Borrie, L.
Bridge of Harwich, L.
Brookeborough, V.
Brooks of Tremorfa, L.
Calverley, L.
Carlisle, E.
Carnock, L.
 Castle of Blackburn, B.
Chandos, V.
Chesham, L.
Clancarty, E.
Cox, B.
Craigavon, V.
Crook, L.
Currie of Marylebone, L.
Dahrendorf, L.
Darcy de Knayth, B.
Denham, L.
Desai, L.
Elton, L.
Evans of Parkside, L.
Exmouth, V.
Ezra, L.
Falkland, V.
Fitt, L.
Fookes, B.
Freyberg, L.
Geddes, L.
 Geraint, L.
Gilmour of Craigmillar, L.
Greenway, L.
Grey, E.
Halsbury, E.
Hamwee, B.
Harris of Greenwich, L.
Hattersley, L.
Hereford, Bp.
HolmPatrick, L.
Hooson, L.
Howell, L.
Hylton-Foster, B.
Jacobs, L.
Judd, L.
Kimball, L.
Knight of Collingtree, B.
Lawrence, L.
Lester of Herne Hill, L.
Linklater of Butterstone, B.
Lovell-Davis, L.
Lucas of Chilworth, L.

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Ludford, B.
McConnell, L.
Mackie of Benshie, L.
McNair, L.
McNally, L. [Teller]
Maddock, B.
Mancroft, L.
Mar and Kellie, E.
Methuen, L.
Molyneaux of Killead, L.
Munster, E.
Murray of Epping Forest, L.
Napier and Ettrick, L.
Newall, L.
Newby, L.
Nicholson of Winterbourne, B.
Northesk, E.
Norton, L.
O’Cathain, B.
 Ogmore, L.
Park of Monmouth, B.
Perry of Walton, L.
Peston, L.
Plant of Highfield, L.
Prys-Davies, L.
Puttnam, L.
Redesdale, L.
Rochester, L.
Rodgers of Quarry Bank, L.
Russell-Johnston, L.
St. John of Bletso, L.
Sandberg, L.
Sefton of Garston, L.
Selkirk of Douglas, L.
Sempill, L.
Shaughnessy, L.
Shore of Stepney, L.
Stockton, E. [Teller]
 Taverne, L.
Taylor of Blackburn, L.
Teviot, L.
Thomas of Gresford, L.
Thomas of Walliswood, B.
Thomson of Monifieth, L.
Thurso, V.
Tope, L.
Tordoff, L.
Trenchard, V.
Tweeddale, M.
Vivian, L.
Wallace of Saltaire, L.
Waverley, V.
Wigoder, L.
Williams of Crosby, B.
Winchester, Bp.
Winchilsea and Nottingham, E.
Wise, L.
Young of Dartington, L.

NOT-CONTENTS

Acton, L.
Alton of Liverpool, L.
Amos, B.
Archer of Sandwell, L.
Bassam of Brighton, L.
Biffen, L.
Blackstone, B.
Blease, L.
Brooke of Alverthorpe, L.
Burlison, L.
Caithness, E.
Carnegy of Lour, B.
Carter, L. [Teller]
Cledwyn of Penrhos, L.
Clinton-Davis, L.
Cocks of Hartcliffe, L.
Davies of Coity, L.
Davies of Oldham, L.
Diamond, L.
Dixon, L.
Donoughue, L.
Dormand of Easington, L.
Dubs, L.
Falconer of Thoroton, L.
Farrington of Ribbleton, B.
Gallacher, L.
Gilbert, L.
Gladwin of Clee, L.
Gladwyn, L.
Gordon of Strathblane, L.
 Gould of Potternewton, B.
Grenfell, L.
Hanworth, V.
Hardie, L.
Hardy of Wath, L.
Harris of High Cross, L.
Haskel, L.
Hayman, B.
Hogg of Cumbernauld, L.
Hoyle, L.
Hughes, L.
Hughes of Woodside, L.
Hunt of Kings Heath, L.
Irvine of Lairg, L. (Lord Chancellor)
Islwyn, L.
Janner of Braunstone, L.
Jay of Paddington, B.
Jeger, B.
Jenkins of Putney, L.
Kennedy of The Shaws, B.
Kilbracken, L.
Lockwood, B.
Lofthouse of Pontefract, L.
Lyell, L.
McIntosh of Haringey, L.
Mallalieu, B.
Marlesford, L.
Mason of Barnsley, L.
Merlyn-Rees, L.
Milner of Leeds, L.
Mishcon, L.
 Molloy, L.
Monkswell, L.
Montague of Oxford, L.
Nicol, B.
Orme, L.
Paul, L.
Pitkeathley, B.
Ponsonby of Shulbrede, L.
Ramsay of Cartvale, B.
Randall of St. Budeaux, L.
Rees-Mogg, L.
Rendell of Babergh, B.
Renwick of Clifton, L.
Richard, L. (Lord Privy Seal)
Sainsbury of Turville, L.
St. John of Fawsley, L.
Sewel, L.
Simon, V.
Simon of Highbury, L.
Stoddart of Swindon, L.
Stone of Blackheath, L.
Strabolgi, L.
Symons of Vernham Dean, B.
Taylor of Gryfe, L.
Thomas of Macclesfield, L.
Ullswater, V.
Varley, L.
Watson of Invergowrie, L.
Wedderburn of Charlton, L.
Whitty, L. [Teller]
Williams of Mostyn, L.
Wolfson, L.