House of Lords Journal 231 (Session 1997-98)

Previous Next Page 632 1997-98 Volume 231       Monday 9 March 1998 The House met at half-past two o’clock. The following Lords Spiritual and Temporal were present: Irvine of Lairg, L. (Lord Chancellor) Aberdare, L. Ackner, L. Acton, L. Addington, L. Addison, V. Ailesbury, M. Ailsa, M. Alexander of Tunis, E. Allenby of Megiddo, V. Amos, B. Ampthill, L. Anelay of St. Johns, B. Annaly, L. Annan, L. Archer of Sandwell, L. Archer of Weston-Super-Mare, L. Ashbourne, L. Ashley of Stoke, L. Astor, V. Astor of Hever, L. Avebury, L. Baker of Dorking, L. Barber, L. Barnett, L. Bassam of Brighton, L. Beaumont of Whitley, L. Beaverbrook, L. Belhaven and Stenton, L. Beloff, L. Berkeley, L. Bethell, L. Biddulph, L. Biffen, L. Birdwood, L. Blackstone, B. Blake, L. Blatch, B. Blease, L. Blyth, L. Boardman, L. Borrie, L. Boston of Faversham, L. Bowness, L. Brabazon of Tara, L. Braine of Wheatley, L. Bridgeman, V. Brightman, L. Brigstocke, B. Brooke of Alverthorpe, L. Brookeborough, V. Brooks of Tremorfa, L. Brougham and Vaux, L. Bruce of Donington, L. Buckinghamshire, E. Burlison, L. Burnham, L. Butterworth, L. Byford, B. Cadman, L. Caithness, E. Calverley, L. Campbell of Alloway, L. Campbell of Croy, L. Carew, L. Carlisle, E. Carmichael of Kelvingrove, L. Carnegy of Lour, B. Carnock, L. Carter, L. Chalfont, L. Charteris of Amisfield, L. Chesham, L. Chorley, L. Clancarty, E. Clanwilliam, E. Cledwyn of Penrhos, L. Cochrane of Cults, L. Cockfield, L. Cocks of Hartcliffe, L. Colville of Culross, V. Colwyn, L. Constantine of Stanmore, L. Cope of Berkeley, L. Cork and Orrery, E. Courtown, E. Craigavon, V. Crickhowell, L. Cross, V. Cuckney, L. Cullen of Ashbourne, L. Cumberlege, B. Dacre of Glanton, L. David, B. Davidson, V. Davies of Coity, L. Davies of Oldham, L. Dean of Beswick, L. Dean of Harptree, L. Dean of Thornton-le-Fylde, B. Denham, L. Denton of Wakefield, B. Desai, L. Dholakia, L. Dilhorne, V. Dixon, L. Dixon-Smith, L. Donoughue, L. Dormand of Easington, L. Eatwell, L. Elis-Thomas, L. Elles, B. Elliott of Morpeth, L. Elton, L. Erne, E. Erroll, E. Evans of Parkside, L. Ewing of Kirkford, L. Exmouth, V. Ezra, L. Falconer of Thoroton, L. Falkland, V. Farrington of Ribbleton, B. Fitt, L. Flather, B. Fookes, B. Fraser of Carmyllie, L. Freyberg, L. Gainford, L. Gallacher, L. Gardner of Parkes, B. Geddes, L. Geraint, L. Gilbert, L. Gilmour of Craigmillar, L. Gladwin of Clee, L. Goodhart, L. Gould of Potternewton, B. Graham of Edmonton, L. Gray of Contin, L. Greene of Harrow Weald, L. Greenhill of Harrow, L. Gregson, L. Grenfell, L. Grey, E. Halsbury, E. Hamwee, B. Hardie, L. Harding of Petherton, L. Hardinge of Penshurst, L. Hardwicke, E. Hardy of Wath, L. Harris of Greenwich, L. Haskel, L. Hattersley, L. Hayhoe, L. Hayman, B. Hayter, L. Henderson of Brompton, L. Henley, L. Hesketh, L. Higgins, L. Hilton of Eggardon, B. Hogg of Cumbernauld, L. Holderness, L. Hollis of Heigham, B. HolmPatrick, L. Hooper, B. Hooson, L. Howe, E. Howell of Guildford, L. Howie of Troon, L. Hoyle, L. Hughes, L. Hughes of Woodside, L. Hunt of Kings Heath, L. Hunt of Wirral, L. Hutchinson of Lullington, L. Page 633 1997-98 Volume 231 Back to top Hylton, L. Hylton-Foster, B. Ilchester, E. Inge, L. Ironside, L. Islwyn, L. Janner of Braunstone, L. Jauncey of Tullichettle, L. Jay of Paddington, B. Jeffreys, L. Jeger, B. Jellicoe, E. Jenkin of Roding, L. Jenkins of Hillhead, L. Jenkins of Putney, L. Johnston of Rockport, L. Judd, L. Kenilworth, L. Kennedy of The Shaws, B. Kennet, L. Kilbracken, L. Kilmarnock, L. Kimball, L. Kingsland, L. Kinloss, Ly. Kinnoull, E. Kirkhill, L. Kirkwood, L. Kitchener, E. Lane of Horsell, L. Lang of Monkton, L. Lauderdale, E. Lawrence, L. Layton, L. Leathers, V. Leigh, L. Levene of Port Soken, L. Liverpool, E. Lofthouse of Pontefract, L. Long, V. Longford, E. Lovell-Davis, L. Lucas, L. Lucas of Chilworth, L. Luke, L. Lyell, L. McCarthy, L. McConnell, L. McFarlane of Llandaff, B. McIntosh of Haringey, L. Mackay of Ardbrecknish, L. McNair, L. McNally, L. Maddock, B. Malmesbury, E. Mar, C. Mar and Kellie, E. Marlesford, L. Marsh, L. Masham of Ilton, B. Mason of Barnsley, L. Mayhew of Twysden, L. Merlyn-Rees, L. Merrivale, L. Mersey, V. Miller of Hendon, B. Milner of Leeds, L. Milverton, L. Mishcon, L. Molloy, L. Molyneaux of Killead, L. Monkswell, L. Monson, L. Montagu of Beaulieu, L. Montague of Oxford, L. Montgomery of Alamein, V. Moore of Wolvercote, L. Moran, L. Mottistone, L. Mountevans, L. Moyne, L. Munster, E. Murray of Epping Forest, L. Napier and Ettrick, L. Napier of Magdâla, L. Naseby, L. Nelson, E. Newby, L. Newton of Braintree, L. Nicholson of Winterbourne, B. Nicol, B. Noel-Buxton, L. Norfolk, D. Northesk, E. Norton, L. O’Cathain, B. Oliver of Aylmerton, L. Onslow, E. Orr-Ewing, L. Oxfuird, V. Park of Monmouth, B. Paul, L. Pearson of Rannoch, L. Pender, L. Perry of Walton, L. Peston, L. Peyton of Yeovil, L. Pilkington of Oxenford, L. Pitkeathley, B. Plant of Highfield, L. Ponsonby of Shulbrede, L. Porter of Luddenham, L. Prys-Davies, L. Quinton, L. Quirk, L. Ramsay of Cartvale, B. Randall of St. Budeaux, L. Rankeillour, L. Rawlings, B. Razzall, L. Rea, L. Reading, M. Reay, L. Redesdale, L. Rees, L. Rendell of Babergh, B. Rennell, L. Renton, L. Renwick, L. Richard, L. Ripon, Bp. Roberts of Conwy, L. Robertson of Oakridge, L. Rodgers of Quarry Bank, L. Rogers of Riverside, L. Rotherwick, L. Rowallan, L. Russell, E. Ryder of Wensum, L. Saint Albans, D. St. Davids, V. St. John of Fawsley, L. Saltoun of Abernethy, Ly. Seccombe, B. Sefton of Garston, L. Selkirk of Douglas, L. Sempill, L. Serota, B. Shannon, E. Shaughnessy, L. Shaw of Northstead, L. Shepherd, L. Shore of Stepney, L. Simon, V. Skelmersdale, L. Skidelsky, L. Smith of Gilmorehill, B. Southwell, Bp. Spens, L. Stallard, L. Stewartby, L. Stone of Blackheath, L. Strabolgi, L. Strange, B. Strathcarron, L. Strathclyde, L. Strathcona and Mount Royal, L. Sudeley, L. Swansea, L. Swinfen, L. Symons of Vernham Dean, B. Taverne, L. Taylor of Blackburn, L. Taylor of Warwick, L. Tenby, V. Teviot, L. Thomas of Gresford, L. Thomas of Gwydir, L. Thomas of Macclesfield, L. Thomas of Walliswood, B. Thomson of Monifieth, L. Tope, L. Tordoff, L. Turner of Camden, B. Tweeddale, M. Ullswater, V. Vivian, L. Waddington, L. Wade of Chorlton, L. Wakeham, L. Walker of Doncaster, L. Walker of Worcester, L. Wallace of Coslany, L. Wallace of Saltaire, L. Walton of Detchant, L. Watson of Invergowrie, L. Weatherill, L. Wedderburn of Charlton, L. Weidenfeld, L. Westbury, L. Whaddon, L. Wharton, B. Whitty, L. Wigoder, L. Wilberforce, L. Williams of Crosby, B. Williams of Elvel, L. Page 634 1997-98 Volume 231 Back to top Williams of Mostyn, L. Winchilsea and Nottingham, E. Winston, L. Wise, L. Wynford, L. Young, B. Young of Old Scone, B. PRAYERS were read by the Lord Bishop of Southwell. Judicial Business 1. Cook (A.P.) (Appellant) v. Financial Insurance Company Limited (Respondents) (England)—The appeal of Jeffrey Harry Cook was presented and it was ordered that in accordance with Standing Order VI the statement and appendix thereto be lodged on or before 20th April next. 2. Commissioners of Customs and Excise (Respondents) v. Westmorland Motorway Services Limited (Petitioners)—The petition of Westmorland Motorway Services Limited praying for leave to appeal notwithstanding that the time limited by Standing Order II has expired was presented and referred to an Appeal Committee. 3. In re Launder (Petitioner) (application for a writ of Habeas Corpus)—The petition of Ewan Quayle Launder praying for leave to appeal in accordance with the Administration of Justice Act 1960 was presented and referred to an Appeal Committee. 4. Appeal Committee—The following Order was made pursuant to the 48th Report: Society of Lloyds (Respondents) v. Robinson (Petitioner) and another—That leave to appeal be given, and that the petition of appeal be lodged by 23rd March next. 5. Appeal Committee—The 57th Report from the Appeal Committee was agreed to and the following Orders were made: Regina v. Investors Compensation Scheme Limited (Petitioners) ex parte Taylor (Respondent)—That leave to appeal be refused; that the respondent be at liberty to apply for his costs in accordance with direction 5.1(d) and, if the application is granted, that the amount thereof be certified by the Clerk of the Parliaments if not agreed between the parties. Strachan & Henshaw Limited (Petitioners) v. Stein Industrie (UK) and another (Respondents)—That leave to appeal be refused; that the respondents be at liberty to apply for their costs in accordance with direction 5.1(d) and, if the application is granted, that the amount thereof be certified by the Clerk of the Parliaments if not agreed between the parties. Regina v. Secretary of State for the Home Department (Respondent) ex parte Fei (Petitioner) (Northern Ireland)—That leave to appeal be refused. MCC Proceeds Inc (Incorporated under the laws of the State of Delaware, USA, as Trustee of the Maxwell Macmillan Realization Liquidating Trust) (Petitioners) v. Lehman Brothers International (Europe) (Respondents)—That leave to appeal be refused; that the respondents be at liberty to apply for their costs in accordance with direction 5.1(d) and, if the application is granted, that the amount thereof be certified by the Clerk of the Parliaments if not agreed between the parties. Barry (Petitioner) v. Midland Bank Plc (Respondents)—That the respondents be invited to lodge objections by 23rd March next. Lehman Brothers Holdings plc and others (Petitioners) v. Phillips and another (Respondents)—That leave to appeal be refused; that the respondents be at liberty to apply for their costs in accordance with direction 5.1(d) and, if the application is granted, that the amount thereof be certified by the Clerk of the Parliaments if not agreed between the parties. 6. Appeal Committee—The 58th Report from the Appeal Committee was agreed to and the following Orders were made: De Souza (Petitioner) v. Automobile Association (Respondents)—That the petition be dismissed as inadmissible. UPO (UK) Limited and others (Petitioners) v. L’Uniteú Hermeútique (Respondents)—That leave to appeal be refused; that the respondents be at liberty to apply for their costs in accordance with direction 5.1(d) and, if the application is granted, that the amount thereof be certified by the Clerk of the Parliaments if not agreed between the parties. Platform Home Loans Limited (Petitioners) v. Oyston Shipways Limited and others (Respondents)—That the respondents be invited to lodge objections by 23rd March next. In re Croft (Petitioner) (Northern Ireland)—That leave to appeal be refused; that the respondent be at liberty to apply for her costs in accordance with direction 5.1(d) and, if the application is granted, that the amount thereof be certified by the Clerk of the Parliaments if not agreed between the parties. Regina v. Managers of the North West London Mental Health N H S Trust and others (Respondents) ex parte Stewart (A.P.) (Petitioner)—That the petition be referred for hearing. Regina v. Bow Street Magistrates Court and others (Respondents) ex parte Quentin (Petitioner)—That leave to appeal be refused. Page 635 1997-98 Volume 231 Back to top Papers 7. Command Paper—The following paper was presented to the House by command of Her Majesty and ordered to lie on the Table: HALO Trust—Departmental Minute dated 9th March 1998 concerning the gifting of vehicles to the HALO Trust. (—) 8. Statutory Instruments (Standing Order 68)—The following negative instruments, having been laid before the House on 6th March, were ordered to lie on the Table: 1. Disability Discrimination (Repeal of section 17 of, and Schedule 2 to, the Disabled Persons (Employment) Act, 1944) Order 1998, laid under the Disability Discrimination Act 1995;   (565) 2. (i) Criminal Justice and Public Order Act 1994 (Suspension of Custody Officer Certificate) Regulations 1998— (474) (ii) Secure Training Centres (Escorts) Rules 1998— (473)   laid under the Criminal Justice and Public Order Act 1994; 3. Secure Training Centre Rules 1998, laid under the Criminal Justice Act 1967;   (472) 4. (i) Berkshire (Coroners) Order 1998— (466) (ii) Local Government Reorganisation (Amendment of Coroners Act 1988) Regulations 1998— (465)   laid under the Local Government Act 1992; 5. Local Authorities (Members’ Allowances) (Amendment) (No. 2) Regulations 1998, laid under the Local Government Act 1972;   (557) 6. Health and Safety (Enforcing Authority) Regulations 1998, laid under the Health and Safety at Work etc. Act 1974;   (494) 7. (i) Special Trustees for Westminster and Roehampton Hospitals (Transfer of Trust Property) Order 1998— (471) (ii) National Health Service (Dental Charges) Amendment Regulations 1998— (490) (iii) National Health Service (Charges for Drugs and Appliances) Amendment Regulations 1998— (491)   laid under the National Health Service Act 1977; 8. (i) National Assistance (Assessment of Resources) (Amendment) Regulations 1998— (497) (ii) National Assistance (Sums for Personal Requirements) Regulations 1998— (498)   laid under the National Assistance Act 1948. 9. Affirmative Instruments—The following instruments were laid before the House for approval by resolution and ordered to lie on the Table: 1. Draft Social Security Amendment (New Deal) Regulations 1998; 2. Draft Greater London Authority (Referendum) Order 1998. 10. Negative Instruments—The following instruments were laid before the House and ordered to lie on the Table: 1. Highway Litter Clearance and Cleaning (Transfer of Responsibility) Order 1998, laid under the Environmental Protection Act 1990;   (467) 2. Control of Lead at Work Regulations 1998, laid under the Health and Safety at Work etc. Act 1974;   (543) 3. National Health Service (Optical Charges and Payments) Amendment Regulations 1998, laid under the National Health Service Act 1977;   (499) 4. Education (Grants for Education Support and Training) (Wales) Regulations 1998, laid under the Education Act 1996;   (392) 5. (i) Public Telecommunication System Designation (TGC UK) Limited Order 1998; (514) (ii) Public Telecommunication System Designation (North American Gateway Limited) Order 1998; (513) (iii) Public Telecommunication System Designation (Esprit Telecom UK Limited) Order 1998; (512) (iv) Public Telecommunication System Designation (Atlantic Telecommunications Limited) Order 1998; (511) (v) Public Telecommunication System Designation (Easynet Group Plc) Order 1998; (510)   laid under the Telecommunications Act 1984. Page 636 1997-98 Volume 231 Back to top 11. Papers not subject to parliamentary proceedings—The following papers were laid before the House and ordered to lie on the Table: 1. Statements of Guarantee given by the Secretary of State for Health on loans proposed to be raised by— (i) Lincolnshire Ambulance and Health Transport NHS Trust— (ii) Dorset Healthcare NHS Trust— (iii) Leicester General Hospital NHS Trust— (iv) Glenfield Hospital NHS Trust— (v) Hampshire Ambulance Service NHS Trust— (vi) Pilgrim & Associated Hospitals NHS Trust— (vii) South Tees Community & Mental Health NHS Trust— (viii) Doncaster Healthcare NHS Trust— (ix) Royal Bournemouth and Christchurch Hospitals NHS Trust— (x) Poole Hospital NHS Trust— (xi) Exeter & District Community NHS Trust— (xii) Nottingham City Hospital NHS Trust— (xiii) South Devon Healthcare NHS Trust— (xiv) Royal Shrewsbury Hospitals NHS Trust— (xv) Rockingham Forest NHS Trust— (xvi) Leicester Royal Infirmary NHS Trust— (xvii) Community Health Services (North Derbyshire) NHS Trust— (xviii) Plymouth Community Services NHS Trust— (xix) Bassetlaw Hospital and Community Services NHS Trust— (xx) Community Health Services (South Derbyshire) NHS Trust— (xxi) North Hampshire Loddon Community NHS Trust— (xxii) Central Nottinghamshire Health Care NHS Trust— (xxiii) Cornwall Healthcare NHS Trust— (xxiv) Derby City General Hospital NHS Trust—   laid under the National Health Service and Community Care Act 1990; 2. Accounts for 1996–97 of the Public Health Laboratory Service Board, together with the Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General, laid under the National Health Service Act 1977; 3. Report of the Law Commission on Liability for Psychiatric Illness, laid under the Law Commissions Act 1965; 4. Statutory Return dated 31st March 1997 by the Export Credits Guarantee Department, laid under the Export and Investments Guarantees Act 1991; 5. Licences granted by the Secretary of State for Trade and Industry to— (i) Esprit Telecom UK Limited— (ii) Easynet Group Plc— (iii) Atlantic Telecommunications Limited— (iv) TGC UK Limited— (v) North American Gateway Limited—   laid under the Telecommunications Act 1984. Private Business 12. Tyne Tunnels Bill—The Examiner’s certificate that no further standing order is applicable was ordered to lie on the Table. Public Business 13. Audit Commission Bill [HL]—The order of re-commitment was discharged. 14. National Lottery Bill [HL]—The report was received; amendments were moved and (by leave of the House) withdrawn; amendments were disagreed to (see division lists 1 and 2); amendments were agreed to; it was ordered that the bill be printed as amended. (HL Bill 86) 15. European Communities (Definition of Treaties) (Partnership and Co-operation Agreement between the European Communities and their Member States and the Republic of Uzbekistan) Order 1997— 16. European Communities (Definition of Treaties) (Partnership and Co-operation Agreement between the European Communities and their Member States and Georgia) Order 1997— Page 637 1997-98 Volume 231 Back to top 17. European Communities (Definition of Treaties) (Partnership and Co-operation Agreement between the European Communities and their Member States and the Republic of Azerbaijan) Order 1997— 18. European Communities (Definition of Treaties) (Partnership and Co-operation Agreement between the European Communities and their Member States and the Republic of Slovenia) Order 1997— 19. European Communities (Definition of Treaties) (Partnership and Co-operation Agreement between the European Communities and their Member States and the Republic of Armenia) Order 1997— It was moved by the Lord Whitty that the draft Orders laid before the House on 18th November 1997 be approved en bloc; after debate, the motion was agreed to. 20. Industrial Training Levy (Construction Board) Order 1998—It was moved by the Lord Whitty that the draft Order laid before the House on 15th January be approved; the motion was agreed to. 21. Industrial Training Levy (Engineering Construction Board) Order 1998—It was moved by the Lord Whitty that the draft Order laid before the House on 15th January be approved; the motion was agreed to. 22. Legal aid—The Lord Thomas of Gresford asked Her Majesty’s Government whether they will postpone their present proposals to abolish legal aid in money recovery claims, in the light of the Bar Council’s Report of January 1998, “Access to Justice: A Fair Way Forward”, until the fullest investigation and research has been completed on the outcome of current Conditional Fee Agreements, and their associated problems of insurance, risk assessment, uplift, and disbursements; after debate, the question was answered by the Lord Chancellor. The House was adjourned at eleven minutes before nine o’clock till tomorrow, half-past two o’clock. DIVISIONS Division No. 1 NATIONAL LOTTERY BILL [HL] It was moved by the Lord Redesdale, in Clause 5, page 8, line 2, at end to insert— (“( ) In section 28 of the 1993 Act (power to amend section 22), in subsection (2)(a), for “5 per cent.” there shall be substituted “131/3 per cent.”.”); which being objected to, the question was put thereupon, and the House divided: Contents.............71 Not-Contents.............82 CONTENTS Aberdare, L. Addington, L. Ailsa, M. Allenby of Megiddo, V. Annaly, L. Ashbourne, L. Avebury, L. Biffen, L. Brabazon of Tara, L. Brougham and Vaux, L. Buckinghamshire, E. Butterworth, L. Calverley, L. Carlisle, E. Cochrane of Cults, L. Crickhowell, L. Cullen of Ashbourne, L. Dacre of Glanton, L. Denham, L. Dholakia, L. [Teller] Erne, E. Ezra, L. Falkland, V. Fookes, B. Freyberg, L. Gardner of Parkes, B. Grey, E. Harding of Petherton, L. Hardwicke, E. Hayhoe, L. Jenkin of Roding, L. Johnston of Rockport, L. Kingsland, L. Kitchener, E. Leigh, L. McNair, L. McNally, L. Mar and Kellie, E. Mayhew of Twysden, L. Milverton, L. Moyne, L. Naseby, L. Park of Monmouth, B. Rawlings, B. Razzall, L. Redesdale, L. [Teller] Rodgers of Quarry Bank, L. Rowallan, L. Russell, E. Selkirk of Douglas, L. Shaw of Northstead, L. Skidelsky, L. Southwell, Bp. Sudeley, L. Swansea, L. Swinfen, L. Taverne, L. Page 638 1997-98 Volume 231 Back to top Taylor of Warwick, L. Thomas of Gresford, L. Thomas of Gwydir, L. Thomas of Walliswood, B. Tope, L. Tordoff, L. Waddington, L. Wallace of Saltaire, L. Westbury, L. Wharton, B. Wigoder, L. Williams of Crosby, B. Wynford, L. Young, B. NOT-CONTENTS Acton, L. Ailesbury, M. Amos, B. Annan, L. Berkeley, L. Blease, L. Blyth, L. Borrie, L. Brooke of Alverthorpe, L. Bruce of Donington, L. Burlison, L. Carew, L. Carmichael of Kelvingrove, L. Carter, L. [Teller] Chorley, L. Cledwyn of Penrhos, L. Cocks of Hartcliffe, L. David, B. Davies of Coity, L. Davies of Oldham, L. Donoughue, L. Dormand of Easington, L. Ewing of Kirkford, L. Farrington of Ribbleton, B. Gallacher, L. Gilbert, L. Gladwin of Clee, L. Gould of Potternewton, B. Graham of Edmonton, L. Gregson, L. Grenfell, L. Halsbury, E. Hardie, L. Haskel, L. [Teller] Hayman, B. Hilton of Eggardon, B. Hogg of Cumbernauld, L. Hollis of Heigham, B. Howie of Troon, L. Hoyle, L. Hughes of Woodside, L. Hylton-Foster, B. Ilchester, E. Irvine of Lairg, L. (Lord Chancellor) Islwyn, L. Jay of Paddington, B. Jenkins of Putney, L. Kilbracken, L. Longford, E. Lovell-Davis, L. McIntosh of Haringey, L. Marsh, L. Mason of Barnsley, L. Merrivale, L. Milner of Leeds, L. Molloy, L. Monkswell, L. Montague of Oxford, L. Murray of Epping Forest, L. Nicol, B. Ponsonby of Shulbrede, L. Ramsay of Cartvale, B. Randall of St. Budeaux, L. Richard, L. (Lord Privy Seal) Sefton of Garston, L. Serota, B. Shepherd, L. Shore of Stepney, L. Simon, V. Smith of Gilmorehill, B. Stallard, L. Stone of Blackheath, L. Strabolgi, L. Symons of Vernham Dean, B. Tenby, V. Thomas of Macclesfield, L. Turner of Camden, B. Watson of Invergowrie, L. Wedderburn of Charlton, L. Whitty, L. Williams of Elvel, L. Young of Old Scone, B. Division No. 2 NATIONAL LOTTERY BILL [HL] It was moved by the Baroness Rawlings, in Clause 18, page 19, line 36, to leave out (“shall be under a duty to”) and insert (“may”); which being objected to, the question was put thereupon, and the House divided: Contents.............49 Not-Contents.............99 CONTENTS Astor of Hever, L. Biddulph, L. Bowness, L. Bridgeman, V. Brookeborough, V. Brougham and Vaux, L. Caithness, E. Carnock, L. Chesham, L. Chorley, L. Courtown, E. [Teller] Cumberlege, B. Dacre of Glanton, L. Dean of Harptree, L. Dilhorne, V. Elliott of Morpeth, L. Elton, L. Erroll, E. Fookes, B. Fraser of Carmyllie, L. Hayhoe, L. Henley, L. HolmPatrick, L. Hooper, B. Kitchener, E. Lane of Horsell, L. Lawrence, L. Lyell, L. Milverton, L. Montgomery of Alamein, V. Mountevans, L. Noel-Buxton, L. Park of Monmouth, B. Pilkington of Oxenford, L. Rawlings, B. Rees, L. Page 639 1997-98 Volume 231 Back to top Rowallan, L. Selkirk of Douglas, L. Skelmersdale, L. Skidelsky, L. Strathclyde, L. [Teller] Strathcona and Mount Royal, L. Sudeley, L. Thomas of Gwydir, L. Vivian, L. Waddington, L. Weatherill, L. Wharton, B. Wynford, L. NOT-CONTENTS Acton, L. Amos, B. Archer of Sandwell, L. Ashley of Stoke, L. Bassam of Brighton, L. Beaumont of Whitley, L. Berkeley, L. Blackstone, B. Blease, L. Brooke of Alverthorpe, L. Burlison, L. Carlisle, E. Carter, L. [Teller] Cocks of Hartcliffe, L. David, B. Davies of Coity, L. Davies of Oldham, L. Desai, L. Dholakia, L. Donoughue, L. Dormand of Easington, L. Evans of Parkside, L. Ewing of Kirkford, L. Falconer of Thoroton, L. Falkland, V. Farrington of Ribbleton, B. Gallacher, L. Geraint, L. Gilbert, L. Goodhart, L. Gould of Potternewton, B. Grenfell, L. Grey, E. Hardy of Wath, L. Haskel, L. Hayman, B. Hilton of Eggardon, B. Howie of Troon, L. Hoyle, L. Hughes of Woodside, L. Irvine of Lairg, L. (Lord Chancellor) Islwyn, L. Jay of Paddington, B. Jeger, B. Jenkins of Putney, L. Kennedy of The Shaws, B. Kennet, L. Kilbracken, L. Longford, E. Lovell-Davis, L. McCarthy, L. McIntosh of Haringey, L. McNair, L. McNally, L. Mar and Kellie, E. Mason of Barnsley, L. Merlyn-Rees, L. Milner of Leeds, L. Mishcon, L. Molloy, L. Molyneaux of Killead, L. Monkswell, L. Montague of Oxford, L. Murray of Epping Forest, L. Nicol, B. Pitkeathley, B. Prys-Davies, L. Ramsay of Cartvale, B. Randall of St. Budeaux, L. Rea, L. Redesdale, L. Rendell of Babergh, B. Richard, L. (Lord Privy Seal) Rodgers of Quarry Bank, L. Rogers of Riverside, L. Sefton of Garston, L. Serota, B. Simon, V. Smith of Gilmorehill, B. Southwell, Bp. Stone of Blackheath, L. Strabolgi, L. Symons of Vernham Dean, B. Taverne, L. Taylor of Blackburn, L. Thomas of Gresford, L. Thomas of Macclesfield, L. Tope, L. Tordoff, L. Turner of Camden, B. Walker of Doncaster, L. Wallace of Saltaire, L. Watson of Invergowrie, L. Wedderburn of Charlton, L. Whitty, L. [Teller] Williams of Crosby, B. Winchilsea and Nottingham, E. Winston, L. Young of Old Scone, B.