House of Lords Journal 231 (Session 1997-98) |
Lords Journals Contents Index Alphabetical list of Lords Minutes and Order Papers |
Wednesday 11 March 1998 The House met at half-past two o’clock. The following Lords Spiritual and Temporal were present: Irvine of Lairg, L.
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Bruce of Donington, L. Burlison, L. Burnham, L. Butterworth, L. Byford, B. Cadman, L. Caithness, E. Callaghan of Cardiff, L. Calverley, L. Campbell of Alloway, L. Campbell of Croy, L. Carew, L. Carlisle, E. Carmichael of Kelvingrove, L. Carnegy of Lour, B. Carnock, L. Carr of Hadley, L. Carter, L. Carver, L. Chalfont, L. Charteris of Amisfield, L. Chesham, L. Chorley, L. Clancarty, E. Clanwilliam, E. Cledwyn of Penrhos, L. Clinton, L. Cobbold, L. Cochrane of Cults, L. Cockfield, L. Cocks of Hartcliffe, L. Coleraine, L. Colville of Culross, V. Cope of Berkeley, L. Cork and Orrery, E. Courtown, E. Cox, B. Craigavon, V. Cranborne, V. Crathorne, L. Crickhowell, L. Croham, L. Cross, V. Cuckney, L. Cullen of Ashbourne, L. Cumberlege, B. Darcy de Knayth, B. David, B. Davidson, V. Davies of Coity, L. Davies of Oldham, L. Dean of Beswick, L. Dean of Harptree, L. Dean of Thornton-le-Fylde, B. Deedes, L. Denbigh, E. Denham, L. Denton of Wakefield, B. Desai, L. Devonport, V. Dholakia, L. Dixon-Smith, L. Donaldson of Lymington, L. Donoughue, L. Dormand of Easington, L. Drogheda, E. Dundonald, E. Durham, Bp. Eatwell, L. |
Eccles, V. Eccles of Moulton, B. Effingham, E. Elis-Thomas, L. Ellenborough, L. Elles, B. Elliott of Morpeth, L. Elton, L. Erne, E. Erroll, E. Evans of Parkside, L. Exmouth, V. Ezra, L. Falkland, V. Farrington of Ribbleton, B. Feldman, L. Fitt, L. Flather, B. Fookes, B. Forbes, L. Fraser of Carmyllie, L. Freyberg, L. Gainford, L. Gallacher, L. Gardner of Parkes, B. Geddes, L. Geraint, L. Gibson, L. Gisborough, L. Gladwin of Clee, L. Gladwyn, L. Glanusk, L. Glenamara, L. Glentoran, L. Goodhart, L. Gould of Potternewton, B. Graham of Edmonton, L. Gray of Contin, L. Greene of Harrow Weald, L. Greenhill of Harrow, L. Greenway, L. Gregson, L. Grenfell, L. Grey, E. Halsbury, E. Hamlyn, L. Hampton, L. Hamwee, B. Harding of Petherton, L. Hardwicke, E. Hardy of Wath, L. Harlech, L. Harmar-Nicholls, L. Harris of Greenwich, L. Haskel, L. Haslam, L. Hayhoe, L. Hayter, L. Hemphill, L. Henderson of Brompton, L. Henley, L. Hereford, Bp. Higgins, L. Hilton of Eggardon, B. Hindlip, L. Hogg of Cumbernauld, L. Holderness, L. Holme of Cheltenham, L. |
HolmPatrick, L. Home, E. Hooper, B. Hooson, L. Howe, E. Howell, L. Howell of Guildford, L. Howie of Troon, L. Hoyle, L. Hughes, L. Hughes of Woodside, L. Hunt of Wirral, L. Hurd of Westwell, L. Hutchinson of Lullington, L. Hylton, L. Hylton-Foster, B. Ilchester, E. Inglewood, L. Islwyn, L. Janner of Braunstone, L. Jay of Paddington, B. Jeffreys, L. Jeger, B. Jenkin of Roding, L. Jenkins of Hillhead, L. Jenkins of Putney, L. Johnston of Rockport, L. Jopling, L. Judd, L. Kenilworth, L. Kennet, L. Kenyon, L. Kilbracken, L. Kilmarnock, L. Kilpatrick of Kincraig, L. Kimball, L. Kingsland, L. Kinloss, Ly. Kinnoull, E. Kintore, E. Kirkhill, L. Kitchener, E. Knight of Collingtree, B. Lane of Horsell, L. Lang of Monkton, L. Lauderdale, E. Lawrence, L. Layton, L. Leathers, V. Leigh, L. Levy, L. Liverpool, E. Lloyd-George of Dwyfor, E. Lofthouse of Pontefract, L. Long, V. Longford, E. Lowry, L. Lucas, L. Lucas of Chilworth, L. Luke, L. Lyell, L. Lytton, E. McAlpine of West Green, L. Macclesfield, E. McConnell, L. Macfarlane of Bearsden, L. McIntosh of Haringey, L. Mackay of Ardbrecknish, L. Mackie of Benshie, L. MacLehose of Beoch, L. |
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Macleod of Borve, B. McNair, L. Macpherson of Drumochter, L. Maddock, B. Mancroft, L. Mar, C. Marlesford, L. Marsh, L. Masham of Ilton, B. Mason of Barnsley, L. Massereene and Ferrard, V. Mayhew of Twysden, L. Merlyn-Rees, L. Mersey, V. Meston, L. Miller of Hendon, B. Milner of Leeds, L. Milverton, L. Mishcon, L. Molloy, L. Molyneaux of Killead, L. Monckton of Brenchley, V. Monkswell, L. Monro of Langholm, L. Monson, L. Montague of Oxford, L. Montgomery of Alamein, V. Montrose, D. Moore of Wolvercote, L. Moran, L. Mottistone, L. Mountevans, L. Moyne, L. Moynihan, L. Munster, E. Murray of Epping Forest, L. Murton of Lindisfarne, L. Naseby, L. Nathan, L. Nelson, E. Newton of Braintree, L. Nicholson of Winterbourne, B. Nickson, L. Nicol, B. Noel-Buxton, L. Northbourne, L. Northesk, L. Norton, L. Ogmore, L. Oliver of Aylmerton, L. Onslow, E. Oppenheim-Barnes, B. Orme, L. Orr-Ewing, L. Oxfuird, V. Park of Monmouth, B. Patten, L. Paul, L. Pearson of Rannoch, L. Peel, E. Pender, L. |
Perry of Walton, L. Peston, L. Peyton of Yeovil, L. Pike, B. Pilkington of Oxenford, L. Pitkeathley, B. Platt of Writtle, B. Plummer of St. Marylebone, L. Ponsonby of Shulbrede, L. Porter of Luddenham, L. Prior, L. Prys-Davies, L. Puttnam, L. Quinton, L. Quirk, L. Raglan, L. Ramsay of Cartvale, B. Randall of St. Budeaux, L. Rankeillour, L. Rawlings, B. Rawlinson of Ewell, L. Razzall, L. Rea, L. Redesdale, L. Rees, L. Renfrew of Kaimsthorn, L. Rennell, L. Renton, L. Renton of Mount Harry, L. Renwick, L. Richard, L. Roberts of Conwy, L. Robson of Kiddington, B. Rochester, L. Rodgers of Quarry Bank, L. Rotherwick, L. Russell, E. Ryder of Warsaw, B. Ryder of Wensum, L. Sainsbury, L. St. John of Fawsley, L. Saltoun of Abernethy, Ly. Sandys, L. Scotland of Asthal, B. Seccombe, B. Sefton of Garston, L. Selkirk of Douglas, L. Sempill, L. Shannon, E. Shaughnessy, L. Shaw of Northstead, L. Shepherd, L. Shore of Stepney, L. Simon, V. Simon of Glaisdale, L. Skelmersdale, L. Skidelsky, L. Slim, V. Smith, L. Smith of Gilmorehill, B. |
Soper, L. Soulsby of Swaffham Prior, L. Southwell, Bp. Spens, L. Stallard, L. Stewartby, L. Stodart of Leaston, L. Stoddart of Swindon, L. Strabolgi, L. Strange, B. Strathalmond, L. Strathcarron, L. Strathclyde, L. Strathcona and Mount Royal, L. Sudeley, L. Suffolk and Berkshire, E. Swansea, L. Swinfen, L. Symons of Vernham Dean, B. Taylor of Blackburn, L. Temple of Stowe, E. Tenby, V. Teviot, L. Teynham, L. Thomas of Gresford, L. Thomas of Gwydir, L. Thomas of Macclesfield, L. Thomson of Monifieth, L. Thurlow, L. Thurso, V. Tope, L. Torrington, V. Trefgarne, L. Tugendhat, L. Turner of Camden, B. Ullswater, V. Varley, L. Vivian, L. Waddington, L. Wakeham, L. Walker of Doncaster, L. Walpole, L. Walton of Detchant, L. Warnock, B. Watson of Invergowrie, L. Waverley, V. Weatherill, L. Wedderburn of Charlton, L. Westbury, L. Whaddon, L. Wharton, B. Whitty, L. Wigoder, L. Wilberforce, L. Williams of Crosby, B. Williams of Elvel, L. Williams of Mostyn, L. Wilson of Tillyorn, L. Winchilsea and Nottingham, E. Wise, L. Wynford, L. Young, B. Young of Old Scone, B. |
PRAYERS were read by the Lord Bishop of Southwell.
| 1. | Lord Hamlyn—Paul Bertrand Hamlyn, Esquire, CBE, having been created Baron Hamlyn, of Edgeworth in the County of Gloucestershire, for life by Letters Patent dated 23rd February 1998 (see appendix), was introduced between the Baroness Blackstone and the Lord Walton of Detchant, the Gentleman Usher of the Black Rod and Garter King of Arms preceding; and took and subscribed the oath pursuant to statute. |
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| 2. | Oath—David McAdam Viscount Eccles took and subscribed the oath pursuant to statute. |
Judicial Business
| 3. | Barclays Bank Plc (Appellants) v. Boulter and Boulter (A.P) (Respondent) (England)—The appeal of Barclays Bank Limited was presented and it was ordered that in accordance with Standing Order VI the statement and appendix thereto be lodged on or before 22nd April next. |
| 4. | General of Berne Insurance Company (Petitioners) v. Jardine Reinsurance Management Limited (formerly Jardine Thompson Graham (Underwriting Management) Limited) and others (Respondents)—The petition of the General of Berne Insurance Company praying for leave to appeal was presented and referred to an Appeal Committee. |
| 5. | Knapp and Knapp (A.P.) (Petitioners) v. Ecclesiastical Insurance Group Plc and another (Respondents)—The petition of William John Knapp and Denise Knapp praying for leave to appeal was presented and referred to an Appeal Committee. The petitioners’ legal aid certificates were lodged. |
Papers
| 6. | Command Paper—The following paper was presented to the House by command of Her Majesty and ordered to lie on the Table: |
Employment—Partnership for Equality: The Government’s proposals for future legislation and policies on Employment Equality in Northern Ireland.
(3890)
| 7. | Negative Instruments—The following instruments were laid before the House and ordered to lie on the Table: |
| 1. (i) | Local Government Act 1988 (Defined Activities) (Exemption) (Basildon, Derwentside and Salisbury District Councils) Order 1998— | (647) |
| (ii) | Local Government Act 1988 (Defined Activities) (Exemption) (No. 2) Order 1998— | (580) |
| (iii) | Local Government Act 1988 (Defined Activities) (Exemption) (No. 1) Order 1998— | (579) |
| laid under the Local Government Act 1988; |
| 2. (i) | National Health Service (General Medical Services) (Scotland) Amendment (No. 2) Regulations 1998— | (660) |
| (ii) | National Health Service (Choice of Medical Practitioner) (Scotland) Regulations 1998— | (659) |
| (iii) | National Health Service (Fund-holding Practices) (Scotland) Amendment Regulations 1998— | (658) |
| (iv) | National Health Service (Service Committees and Tribunal) (Scotland) Amendment Regulations 1998— | (657) |
| (v) | National Health Service (Optical Charges and Payments) (Scotland) Regulations 1998— | (642) |
| laid under the National Health Service (Scotland) Act 1978; |
| 3. | Social Security (Miscellaneous Amendments) Regulations 1998, laid under the Local Government Finance Act 1988; |
| (563) |
| 4. | Occupational and Personal Pension Schemes (Levy and Register) (Amendments) Regulations 1998, laid under the Pensions Schemes Act 1993; |
| (600) |
| 5. (i) | Legal Advice and Assistance (Amendment) Regulations 1998— | (663) |
| (ii) | Legal Aid in Criminal and Care Proceedings (General) (Amendment) Regulations 1998— | (662) |
| (iii) | Civil Legal Aid (Assessment of Resources) (Amendment) Regulations 1998— | (664) |
| laid under the Legal Aid Act 1988; |
| 6. | Friendly Societies (General Charge and Fees) Regulations 1998, laid under the Friendly Societies Act 1992; |
| (673) |
| 7. | Building Societies (General Charge and Fees) Regulations 1998, laid under the Building Societies Act 1986; |
| (675) |
| 8. (i) | Industrial and Provident Societies (Amendment of Fees) Regulations 1998— | (676) |
| (ii) | Industrial and Provident Societies (Credit Unions) (Amendment of Fees) Regulations 1998— | (672) |
| laid under the Industrial and Provident Societies Act 1965; |
| 9. | Births, Deaths and Marriages and Divorces (Fees) (Scotland) Regulations 1998, laid under the Registration of Births, Deaths and Marriages (Scotland) Act 1965; |
| (643) |
| 10. | Council Tax (Exempt Dwellings) (Scotland) Amendment Order 1998, laid under the Local Government Finance Act 1992; |
| (561) |
| 11. (i) | Water Services Charges (Billing and Collection) (Scotland) Order 1998— | (634) |
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| (ii) | Domestic Sewerage Charges (Reduction) (Scotland) Regulations 1998— | (635) |
| laid under the Local Government etc. (Scotland) Act 1994; |
| 12. | Local Authorities (Capital Finance) (Amendment) (No. 2) Regulations 1998, laid under the Local Government and Housing Act 1989; |
| (602) |
| 13. (i) | Financial Assistance for Environmental Purposes Order 1998— | (538) |
| (ii) | Environmental Protection (Waste Recycling Payments) (Amendment) Regulations 1998— | (607) |
| laid under the Environmental Protection Act 1990; |
| 14. (i) | Waste Management Licensing (Amendment) Regulations 1998— | (606) |
| (ii) | Environmental Protection (Controls on Hexachloroethane) Regulations 1998— | (545) |
| (iii) | National Health Service (Vocational Training for General Medical Practice) Amendment Regulations 1998— | (669) |
| laid under the European Communities Act 1972; |
| 15. | Charter Trustees (Hereford) Order 1998, laid under the Local Government Act 1992; |
| (582) |
| 16. | Controlled Waste (Registration of Carriers and Seizure of Vehicles) (Amendment) Regulations 1998, laid under the Control of Pollution (Amendment) Act 1989; |
| (605) |
| 17. | Road Vehicles Registration Fee Regulations 1998, laid under the Vehicle Excise and Registration Act 1994; |
| (572) |
| 18. | London Traffic Control System (Transfer) (Amendment) Order 1998, laid under the Local Government Act 1985; |
| (654) |
| 19. | Merchant Shipping (Fees) (Amendment) Regulations 1998, laid under the Merchant Shipping Act 1995; |
| (531) |
| 20. | Civil Aviation (Navigation Services Charges) Regulations 1998, laid under the Civil Aviation Act 1982; |
| (532) |
| 21. (i) | Police Act 1997 (Provisions in relation to the NCIS Service Authority) Order 1998— | (633) |
| (ii) | NCIS (Discipline) (Senior Police Members) Regulations 1998— | (636) |
| (iii) | National Crime Squad (Complaints) Regulations 1998— | (638) |
| (iv) | National Crime Squad (Senior Police Members) (Appeals) Order 1998— | (639) |
| (v) | NCIS (Senior Police Members) (Appeals) Order 1998— | (640) |
| (vi) | NCIS (Complaints) Regulations 1998— | (641) |
| (vii) | National Crime Squad (Discipline) (Senior Police Members) Regulations 1998— | (637) |
| laid under the Police Act 1997; |
| 22. (i) | Local Education Authority (Behaviour Support Plans) Regulations 1998— | (644) |
| (ii) | Education (Grant-maintained and Grant-maintained Special Schools) (Finance) (Wales) (Amendment) Regulations 1998— | (391) |
| (iii) | Education (Grants for Education Support and Training) (England) Regulations 1998— | (656) |
| laid under the Education Act 1996; |
| 23. | Nursery Education (England) Regulations 1998, laid under the Nursery Education and Grant Maintained Schools Act 1996; |
| (655) |
| 24. | Nursing Homes Registration (Scotland) Amendment Regulations 1998, laid under the Nursing Homes Registration (Scotland) Act 1938; |
| (661) |
| 25. | Police Grant (Scotland) Order 1998, laid under the Police (Scotland) Act 1967; |
| (611) |
| 26. (i) | National Health Service (Pharmaceutical Services) Amendment Regulations 1998— | (681) |
| (ii) | National Health Service (General Medical Services) Amendment Regulations 1998— | (682) |
| (iii) | National Health Service (Choice of Medical Practitioner) Regulations 1998— | (668) |
| (iv) | National Health Service (Pilot Schemes: Miscellaneous Provisions and Consequential Amendments) Regulations 1998— | (646) |
| (v) | National Health Service (Service Committees and Tribunal) Amendment Regulations 1998— | (674) |
| (vi) | National Health Service (Remuneration and Conditions of Service) (Amendment) Regulations 1998— | (564) |
| laid under the National Health Service Act 1977; |
| 27. (i) | National Health Service Pension Scheme (Amendment) Regulations 1998— | (666) |
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| (ii) | National Health Service (Injury Benefits) Amendment Regulations 1998— | (667) |
| laid under the Superannuation Act 1972; |
| 28. | National Health Service (Pilot Schemes: Part II Practitioners) Regulations 1998, laid under the National Health Service (Primary Care) Act 1997; |
| (665) |
| 29. | Medicines for Human Use and Medical Devices (Fees and Miscellaneous Amendments) Regulations 1998, laid under the Medicines Act 1971. |
| (574) |
| 8. | Papers not subject to parliamentary proceedings—The following papers were laid before the House and ordered to lie on the Table: |
| 1. | Report for 1997 of the Northern Ireland Ombudsman and the Northern Ireland Commissioner for Complaints, laid under the Ombudsman (Northern Ireland) Order 1996; |
| 2. | Report and Accounts for the year ended 30th September 1997 of Dartford River Crossing Limited, laid under the Dartford-Thurrock Crossing Act 1988. |
Public Business
| 9. | Data Protection Bill [HL]—It was moved by the Lord Williams of Mostyn that the amendments for the Report Stage be marshalled and considered in the following order: |
| Clauses 1 to 4 Schedules 1 to 4 Clauses 5 and 6 Schedule 5 Clauses 7 to 36 Schedule 7 Clauses 37 to 46 Schedule 6 | Clauses 47 and 48 Schedule 8 Clauses 49 and 50 Schedule 9 Clauses 51 to 63 Schedules 10 and 11 Clause 64; |
the motion was agreed to.
| 10. | Farming in Wales (Short debate)—It was moved by the Lord Hooson that there be laid before the House papers relating to the Report of the Institute of Welsh Affairs, “The Farming Crisis in Rural Wales”, and to the consequences of that crisis including public order problems; after debate, the motion was (by leave of the House) withdrawn. |
| 11. | Consolidated Fund (No. 2) Bill—A bill to apply certain sums out of the Consolidated Fund to the service of the years ending on 31st March 1997 and 1998 was brought from the Commons endorsed with the certificate of the Speaker that the bill is a money bill and read a first time. |
| 12. | Fossil Fuel Levy Bill [HL]—The bill was returned from the Commons agreed to. |
| 13. | South Africa (Short debate)—It was moved by the Baroness Nicholson of Winterbourne that there be laid before the House papers relating to the role of the Truth and Reconciliation Commission in South Africa and its possible application in other post-conflict zones; after debate, the motion was (by leave of the House) withdrawn. |
| 14. | Commonwealth Development Corporation—The Lord Lucas asked Her Majesty’s Government what are their plans regarding the Commonwealth Development Corporation; after debate, the question was answered by the Lord Whitty. |
The House was adjourned at a quarter-before nine o’clock till tomorrow,
two o’clock for judicial business, three o’clock for public business.
APPENDIX
ELIZABETH THE SECOND by the Grace of God of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland and of Our other Realms and Territories Queen Head of the Commonwealth Defender of the Faith To all Lords Spiritual and Temporal and all other Our Subjects whatsoever to whom these Presents shall come Greeting Know Ye that We of Our especial grace certain knowledge and mere motion in pursuance of the Life Peerages Act 1958 and of all other powers in that behalf Us enabling do by these Presents advance create and prefer Our trusty and well beloved Paul Bertrand Hamlyn Esquire Commander of Our Most Excellent Order of the British Empire to the state degree style dignity title and honour of Baron Hamlyn of Edgeworth in Our County of Gloucestershire
And for Us Our heirs and successors do appoint give and grant unto him the said name state degree style dignity title and honour of Baron Hamlyn to have and to hold unto him for his life
Willing and by these Presents granting for Us Our heirs and successors that he may have hold and possess a seat place and voice in the Parliaments and Public Assemblies and Councils of Us Our heirs and successors within Our United Kingdom amongst the Barons And also that he may enjoy and use all the rights privileges pre-eminences immunities and advantages to the degree of a Baron duly and of
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right belonging which Barons of Our United Kingdom have heretofore used and enjoyed or as they do at present use and enjoy
In Witness whereof We have caused these Our Letters to be made Patent Witness Ourself at Westminster the twenty-third day of February in the forty-seventh year of Our Reign
BY WARRANT UNDER THE QUEEN’S SIGN MANUAL