House of Lords Journal 231 (Session 1997-98)

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Tuesday 31 March 1998

The House met at half-past two o’clock.

The following Lords Spiritual and Temporal were present:

Irvine of Lairg, L.
(Lord Chancellor)

Aberdare, L.
Ackner, L.
Acton, L.
Addington, L.
Addison, V.
Ailesbury, M.
Ailsa, M.
Aldington, L.
Allenby of Megiddo, V.
Alport, L.
Alton of Liverpool, L.
Amherst of Hackney, L.
Ampthill, L.
Anelay of St. Johns, B.
Annaly, L.
 Annan, L.
Archer of Sandwell, L.
Armstrong of Ilminster, L.
Arran, E.
Ashbourne, L.
Ashley of Stoke, L.
Astor of Hever, L.
Avebury, L.
Baker of Dorking, L.
Baldwin of Bewdley, E.
Barnett, L.
Bassam of Brighton, L.
Bath and Wells, Bp.
Beaumont of Whitley, L.
Beaverbrook, L.
 Belhaven and Stenton, L.
Beloff, L.
Belstead, L.
Berkeley, L.
Biddulph, L.
Biffen, L.
Bingham of Cornhill, L.
Birdwood, L.
Birkett, L.
Blackstone, B.
Blatch, B.
Bledisloe, V.
Blyth, L.
Boardman, L.
Borrie, L.

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Boston of Faversham, L.
Bowness, L.
Brabazon of Tara, L.
Braine of Wheatley, L.
Brentford, V.
Bridgeman, V.
Bridges, L.
Brightman, L.
Brigstocke, B.
Brooke of Alverthorpe, L.
Brookeborough, V.
Brookes, L.
Brooks of Tremorfa, L.
Brougham and Vaux, L.
Bruce of Donington, L.
Bruntisfield, L.
Burlison, L.
Burnham, L.
Butler of Brockwell, L.
Butterfield, L.
Butterworth, L.
Byford, B.
Cadman, L.
Caithness, E.
Callaghan of Cardiff, L.
Calverley, L.
Campbell of Alloway, L.
Campbell of Croy, L.
Carew, L.
Carlisle, Bp.
Carlisle, E.
Carmichael of Kelvingrove, L.
Carnegy of Lour, B.
Carnock, L.
Carrick, E.
Carter, L.
Castle of Blackburn, B.
Chalfont, L.
Chalker of Wallasey, B.
Chandos, V.
Charteris of Amisfield, L.
Chesham, L.
Chichester, Bp.
Clancarty, E.
Clanwilliam, E.
Cledwyn of Penrhos, L.
Clinton, L.
Clyde, L.
Cockfield, L.
Cocks of Hartcliffe, L.
Coleraine, L.
Colwyn, L.
Constantine of Stanmore, L.
Cope of Berkeley, L.
Courtown, E.
Craig of Radley, L.
Craigavon, V.
Cranbrook, E.
Crickhowell, L.
Cuckney, L.
Cullen of Ashbourne, L.
Darcy de Knayth, B.
David, B.
Davidson, V.
Davies of Coity, L.
Davies of Oldham, L.
De Ramsey, L.
Dean of Harptree, L.
Dean of Thornton-le-Fylde, B.
 Denham, L.
Denton of Wakefield, B.
Dholakia, L.
Diamond, L.
Dixon, L.
Dixon-Smith, L.
Dormand of Easington, L.
Dundee, E.
Dundonald, E.
Eatwell, L.
Eccles of Moulton, B.
Elis-Thomas, L.
Elles, B.
Elliott of Morpeth, L.
Elton, L.
Ely, M.
Erroll, E.
Evans of Parkside, L.
Exmouth, V.
Ezra, L.
Falconer of Thoroton, L.
Falkland, V.
Farrington of Ribbleton, B.
Fitt, L.
Flather, B.
Foley, L.
Fookes, B.
Fraser of Carmyllie, L.
Freyberg, L.
Gainford, L.
Gainsborough, E.
Gallacher, L.
Gardner of Parkes, B.
Geraint, L.
Gilbert, L.
Gillmore of Thamesfield, L.
Gisborough, L.
Gladwin of Clee, L.
Glenamara, L.
Glenarthur, L.
Glentoran, L.
Goodhart, L.
Gordon of Strathblane, L.
Gormanston, V.
Gould of Potternewton, B.
Graham of Edmonton, L.
Gray of Contin, L.
Greenway, L.
Gregson, L.
Grenfell, L.
Grey, E.
Halsbury, E.
Hamilton of Dalzell, L.
Hampton, L.
Hardie, L.
Harding of Petherton, L.
Hardinge of Penshurst, L.
Hardwicke, E.
Hardy of Wath, L.
Harmar-Nicholls, L.
Haskel, L.
Hattersley, L.
Hayhoe, L.
Hayman, B.
Hayter, L.
Hemphill, L.
Henderson of Brompton, L.
Henley, L.
Hereford, Bp.
 Higgins, L.
Hilton of Eggardon, B.
Hoffmann, L.
Holderness, L.
Hollis of Heigham, B.
Holme of Cheltenham, L.
HolmPatrick, L.
Home, E.
Hooper, B.
Hooson, L.
Howe, E.
Howell, L.
Howell of Guildford, L.
Howie of Troon, L.
Hoyle, L.
Hughes, L.
Hughes of Woodside, L.
Hunt of Kings Heath, L.
Hunt of Tanworth, L.
Hunt of Wirral, L.
Hurd of Westwell, L.
Hutchinson of Lullington, L.
Hutton, L.
Hylton, L.
Hylton-Foster, B.
Inglewood, L.
Ironside, L.
Islwyn, L.
Janner of Braunstone, L.
Jay of Paddington, B.
Jeffreys, L.
Jellicoe, E.
Jenkin of Roding, L.
Jenkins of Hillhead, L.
Jenkins of Putney, L.
Johnston of Rockport, L.
Jopling, L.
Judd, L.
Kenilworth, L.
Kennedy of The Shaws, B.
Kennet, L.
Kilbracken, L.
Kilmarnock, L.
Kimball, L.
Kingsland, L.
Kinloss, Ly.
Kitchener, E.
Knollys, V.
Laing of Dunphail, L.
Lane, L.
Lane of Horsell, L.
Lang of Monkton, L.
Lauderdale, E.
Lawrence, L.
Lawson of Blaby, L.
Leathers, V.
Leicester, Bp.
Leigh, L.
Lester of Herne Hill, L.
Levy, L.
Lindsey and Abingdon, E.
Linklater of Butterstone, B.
Liverpool, E.
Lockwood, B.
Lofthouse of Pontefract, L.
London, Bp.
Long, V.
Longford, E.
Lovell-Davis, L.

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Lowry, L.
Lucas, L.
Lucas of Chilworth, L.
Ludford, B.
Luke, L.
Lyell, L.
McAlpine of West Green, L.
McCarthy, L.
McColl of Dulwich, L.
McIntosh of Haringey, L.
Mackay of Ardbrecknish, L.
Mackay of Clashfern, L.
McNair, L.
McNally, L.
Maddock, B.
Mallalieu, B.
Mar and Kellie, E.
Marlesford, L.
Marsh, L.
Masham of Ilton, B.
Mason of Barnsley, L.
Massereene and Ferrard, V.
Mayhew of Twysden, L.
Merlyn-Rees, L.
Merrivale, L.
Mersey, V.
Meston, L.
Middleton, L.
Miller of Hendon, B.
Milner of Leeds, L.
Milverton, L.
Minto, E.
Mishcon, L.
Molloy, L.
Molyneaux of Killead, L.
Monckton of Brenchley, V.
Monkswell, L.
Monro of Langholm, L.
Monson, L.
Montagu of Beaulieu, L.
Montague of Oxford, L.
Montgomery of Alamein, V.
Moore of Wolvercote, L.
Moran, L.
Morris of Manchester, L.
Mottistone, L.
Mountevans, L.
Moyne, L.
Moynihan, L.
Munster, E.
Murray of Epping Forest, L.
Napier and Ettrick, L.
Nelson, E.
Newall, L.
Newby, L.
Newton of Braintree, L.
Nicholson of Winterbourne, B.
Nicol, B.
Noel-Buxton, L.
Nolan, L.
Norfolk, D.
Norrie, L.
Northesk, E.
O’Cathain, B.
Ogmore, L.
Oliver of Aylmerton, L.
Onslow, E.
Onslow of Woking, L.
Orme, L.
 Orr-Ewing, L.
Oxford, Bp.
Oxfuird, V.
Palmer, L.
Park of Monmouth, B.
Patten, L.
Paul, L.
Pearson of Rannoch, L.
Peel, E.
Pender, L.
Perry of Walton, L.
Perth, E.
Peston, L.
Peyton of Yeovil, L.
Phillips of Ellesmere, L.
Pilkington of Oxenford, L.
Pitkeathley, B.
Plant of Highfield, L.
Ponsonby of Shulbrede, L.
Powis, E.
Prior, L.
Prys-Davies, L.
Pym, L.
Quirk, L.
Ramsay of Cartvale, B.
Randall of St. Budeaux, L.
Rankeillour, L.
Rawlings, B.
Rea, L.
Reay, L.
Redesdale, L.
Rees, L.
Rendell of Babergh, B.
Rennell, L.
Renton, L.
Renton of Mount Harry, L.
Renwick, L.
Renwick of Clifton, L.
Richard, L.
Richardson, L.
Rix, L.
Roberts of Conwy, L.
Rochester, L.
Rodgers of Quarry Bank, L.
Rogers of Riverside, L.
Rowallan, L.
Runcie, L.
Runciman of Doxford, V.
Russell, E.
Sainsbury, L.
St. Davids, V.
St. John of Bletso, L.
St. John of Fawsley, L.
Saltoun of Abernethy, Ly.
Sandberg, L.
Sanderson of Bowden, L.
Sandford, L.
Sandwich, E.
Seccombe, B.
Sefton of Garston, L.
Selborne, E.
Selsdon, L.
Sewel, L.
Shannon, E.
Sharples, B.
Shaughnessy, L.
Shaw of Northstead, L.
Shepherd, L.
 Shore of Stepney, L.
Shrewsbury, E.
Simon, V.
Simon of Glaisdale, L.
Simon of Highbury, L.
Skelmersdale, L.
Slynn of Hadley, L.
Smith, L.
Smith of Gilmorehill, B.
Stallard, L.
Steel of Aikwood, L.
Stewartby, L.
Stodart of Leaston, L.
Stoddart of Swindon, L.
Strabolgi, L.
Strathcona and Mt. Royal, L.
Sudeley, L.
Swansea, L.
Swinfen, L.
Symons of Vernham Dean, B.
Taverne, L.
Taylor of Blackburn, L.
Taylor of Gryfe, L.
Taylor of Warwick, L.
Templeman, L.
Tenby, V.
Teviot, L.
Teynham, L.
Thomas of Gresford, L.
Thomas of Gwydir, L.
Thomas of Macclesfield, L.
Thomas of Walliswood, B.
Thomson of Monifieth, L.
Thurlow, L.
Tope, L.
Tordoff, L.
Trefgarne, L.
Tryon, L.
Turner of Camden, B.
Ullswater, V.
Varley, L.
Vinson, L.
Vivian, L.
Waddington, L.
Wade of Chorlton, L.
Wakefield, Bp.
Wakeham, L.
Walker of Doncaster, L.
Wallace of Coslany, L.
Walpole, L.
Walton of Detchant, L.
Watson of Invergowrie, L.
Waverley, V.
Weatherill, L.
Wedderburn of Charlton, L.
Whaddon, L.
Wharton, B.
Whitelaw, V.
Whitty, L.
Wigoder, L.
Wilcox, B.
Williams of Elvel, L.
Williams of Mostyn, L.
Winston, L.
Wise, L.
Wynford, L.
Young, B.
Young of Dartington, L.
Young of Old Scone, B.

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PRAYERS were read by the Lord Bishop of Leicester.

1.Lord Butler of Brockwell—Sir Frederick Edward Robin Butler GCB CVO, having been created Baron Butler of Brockwell, of Herne Hill in the London Borough of Lambeth, for life by Letters Patent dated 12th February 1998 (see appendix), was introduced between the Lord Hunt of Tanworth and the Lord Armstrong of Ilminster, the Gentleman Usher of the Black Rod and Garter King of Arms preceding; and took and subscribed the oath pursuant to statute.
2.Leave of Absence—It was ordered that leave of absence be granted to the Lord Newton for this Parliament.

Judicial Business

3.Hutchison Reid (A.P.) (Respondent) v. Secretary of State for Scotland (Appellant) and another (Scotland)—The appeal was set down for hearing and referred to an Appellate Committee.
4.Regina v. Oxfordshire County Council and others (Respondents) ex parte Sunningwell Parish Council (Appellants)—The petition of the appellants praying that the time for lodging the statement and appendix and setting down the cause for hearing might be extended to 18th May next (the agents for the respondents consenting thereto) was presented; and it was ordered as prayed.

Papers

5.Command Paper—The following paper was presented to the House by command of Her Majesty and ordered to lie on the Table:

Contingent Liability—Events of 30th January 1972 (Saville Inquiry): Northern Ireland Office Minute concerning a contingent liability consequent upon indemnification of the Rt. Hon. Lord Justice Saville, the Rt. Hon. Sir Edward Somers, the Hon. Chief Justice Hoyt, Counsel to the Inquiry and the Inquiry Secretariat.

(—)

6.Negative Instruments—The following instruments were laid before the House and ordered to lie on the Table:
1.Race Relations (Complaints to Industrial Tribunals) (Armed Forces) Regulations (Northern Ireland) 1998, laid under the Race Relations (Northern Ireland) Order 1997;
 (—)
2.Equal Pay (Complaints to Industrial Tribunals) (Armed Forces) Regulations (Northern Ireland) 1998, laid under the Equal Pay Act (Northern Ireland) 1970;
 (—)
3.Sex Discrimination (Complaints to Industrial Tribunals) (Armed Forces) Regulations (Northern Ireland) 1998, laid under the Sex Discrimination (Northern Ireland) Order 1976;
 (—)
4. (i)Misuse of Drugs (Designation) (Variation) Order 1998—(881)
(ii)Misuse of Drugs (Amendment) Regulations 1998—(882)
 laid under the Misuse of Drugs Act 1971;
5.Trade Marks (Amendment) Rules 1998, laid under the Trade Marks Act 1994.
 (925)
7.Papers not subject to parliamentary proceedings—The following papers were laid before the House and ordered to lie on the Table:
1.Report for 1997 of the Certification Officer, laid under the Trade Union and Labour Relations (Consolidation) Act 1992;
2.Report of the Scottish Law Commission on Diligence on the Dependence and Admiralty Arrestments, laid under the Law Commissions Act 1965;
3.Accounts for 1997 of the Crown’s Nominee (the Treasury Solicitor) for the receipts and payments in administration of estates on behalf of the Crown, laid under the Treasury Solicitor Act 1876;
4.Statement of Guarantee given by the Treasury in respect of temporary borrowing by the Housing Corporation, laid under the Housing Act 1974.

Select Committee Report

8.Statutory Instruments—The 28th Report from the Joint Committee was made on certain statutory instruments; it was ordered that the Report be printed. (HL Paper 90)

Private Business

9.Tamar Bridge Bill—The bill was brought from the Commons, read a first time and referred to the Examiners.

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Public Business

10.Crime and Disorder Bill [HL]—The bill was read a third time; an amendment was agreed to (see division list 1); amendments were moved and (by leave of the House) withdrawn; amendments were agreed to; amendments were disagreed to (see division lists 2 and 3); an amendment was negatived; a privilege amendment was agreed to; then, after debate, the bill was passed and sent to the Commons.
11.Criminal Legal Aid (Scotland) (Prescribed Proceedings) Amendment Regulations 1998—
12.Civil Legal Aid (Financial Conditions) (Scotland) Regulations 1998—
13.Advice and Assistance (Financial Conditions) (Scotland) Regulations 1998—
14.Advice and Assistance (Assistance by Way of Representation) (Scotland) Amendment Regulations 1998—
It was moved by the Lord Hardie that the four draft Regulations laid before the House on 4th March be approved en bloc; after debate, the motion was agreed to.
15.Criminal Justice (International Co-operation) (Amendment) Bill [HL]—The House resolved itself into a Committee upon the bill; an amendment was moved and (by leave of the Committee) withdrawn; the House was resumed and the bill was reported without amendment; the report was received.

The House was adjourned at seventeen minutes before eleven o’clock
till tomorrow, half-past two o’clock.

DIVISIONS

Division No. 1

CRIME AND DISORDER BILL [HL]

It was moved by the Lord Ackner, before Clause 1, to insert the new Clause (Standing Advisory Council on Criminal Justice and the Penal System); which being objected to, the question was put thereupon, and the House divided:

Contents.............114

Not-Contents.............105

CONTENTS

Ackner, L. [Teller]
Addington, L.
Aldington, L.
Allenby of Megiddo, V.
Alton of Liverpool, L.
Ashbourne, L.
Beaumont of Whitley, L.
Beloff, L.
Bingham of Cornhill, L.
Bledisloe, V.
Brentford, V.
Brightman, L.
Brookeborough, V.
Calverley, L.
Campbell of Alloway, L.
Carlisle, E.
Charteris of Amisfield, L.
Chichester, Bp.
Cuckney, L.
Cullen of Ashbourne, L.
Darcy de Knayth, B.
David, B.
Davidson, V.
Dholakia, L.
Elis-Thomas, L.
Elton, L.
Exmouth, V.
Ezra, L.
Falkland, V.
 Flather, B.
Foley, L.
Geraint, L.
Gormanston, V.
Gray of Contin, L.
Halsbury, E.
Hamilton of Dalzell, L.
Hampton, L.
Harding of Petherton, L.
Harmar-Nicholls, L.
Hayhoe, L.
Henderson of Brompton, L.
Hilton of Eggardon, B.
Holderness, L.
Holme of Cheltenham, L.
Hooson, L.
Hurd of Westwell, L.
Hutchinson of Lullington, L.
Hutton, L.
Hylton, L. [Teller]
Hylton-Foster, B.
Jellicoe, E.
Jenkins of Hillhead, L.
Kinloss, Ly.
Kitchener, E.
Knollys, V.
Lane, L.
Lawrence, L.
Leicester, Bp.
Lester of Herne Hill, L.
 Linklater of Butterstone, B.
Long, V.
Longford, E.
Lowry, L.
Ludford, B.
Mackay of Clashfern, L.
Maddock, B.
Mar and Kellie, E.
Masham of Ilton, B.
Mersey, V.
Meston, L.
Middleton, L.
Molyneaux of Killead, L.
Munster, E.
Nelson, E.
Newby, L.
Nicholson of Winterbourne, B.
Noel-Buxton, L.
Nolan, L.
Ogmore, L.
Oliver of Aylmerton, L.
Onslow, E.
Park of Monmouth, B.
Rennell, L.
Renton, L.
Rix, L.
Rochester, L.
Rodgers of Quarry Bank, L.
Russell, E.
Sainsbury, L.
St. John of Bletso, L.

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Saltoun of Abernethy, Ly.
Sandberg, L.
Sandwich, E.
Shannon, E.
Shaughnessy, L.
Simon of Glaisdale, L.
Slynn of Hadley, L.
Stodart of Leaston, L.
 Strathcona and Mount Royal, L.
Taverne, L.
Taylor of Warwick, L.
Tenby, V.
Teynham, L.
Thomas of Gresford, L.
Thomas of Gwydir, L.
Thomas of Walliswood, B.
 Thomson of Monifieth, L.
Tope, L.
Tordoff, L.
Wakefield, Bp.
Walpole, L.
Weatherill, L.
Wharton, B.
Wynford, L.

NOT-CONTENTS

Acton, L.
Ailesbury, M.
Alport, L.
Archer of Sandwell, L.
Ashley of Stoke, L.
Barnett, L.
Berkeley, L.
Biffen, L.
Blackstone, B.
Borrie, L.
Brooke of Alverthorpe, L.
Brookes, L.
Bruce of Donington, L.
Burlison, L.
Callaghan of Cardiff, L.
Carmichael of Kelvingrove, L.
Carnegy of Lour, B.
Carter, L. [Teller]
Cledwyn of Penrhos, L.
Clinton-Davis, L.
Davies of Oldham, L.
Diamond, L.
Dixon, L.
Dormand of Easington, L.
Elles, B.
Evans of Parkside, L.
Falconer of Thoroton, L.
Farrington of Ribbleton, B.
Fitt, L.
Gallacher, L.
Gilbert, L.
Gladwin of Clee, L.
Glenamara, L.
Glentoran, L.
 Gordon of Strathblane, L.
Gould of Potternewton, B. [Teller]
Graham of Edmonton, L.
Gregson, L.
Grenfell, L.
Hardie, L.
Haskel, L.
Hayman, B.
Hollis of Heigham, B.
Howell, L.
Howie of Troon, L.
Hoyle, L.
Hughes of Woodside, L.
Hunt of Kings Heath, L.
Irvine of Lairg, L. (Lord Chancellor)
Islwyn, L.
Janner of Braunstone, L.
Jay of Paddington, B.
Jenkins of Putney, L.
Kilbracken, L.
Levy, L.
Lockwood, B.
Lofthouse of Pontefract, L.
McCarthy, L.
McIntosh of Haringey, L.
Marsh, L.
Mason of Barnsley, L.
Merrivale, L.
Milner of Leeds, L.
Mishcon, L.
Molloy, L.
Monckton of Brenchley, V.
Monkswell, L.
Montague of Oxford, L.
Murray of Epping Forest, L.
 Nicol, B.
Orme, L.
Paul, L.
Plant of Highfield, L.
Ponsonby of Shulbrede, L.
Prys-Davies, L.
Ramsay of Cartvale, B.
Randall of St. Budeaux, L.
Rendell of Babergh, B.
Richard, L. (Lord Privy Seal)
Rogers of Riverside, L.
Sefton of Garston, L.
Sewel, L.
Shepherd, L.
Shore of Stepney, L.
Simon, V.
Simon of Highbury, L.
Smith of Gilmorehill, B.
Stallard, L.
Stoddart of Swindon, L.
Strabolgi, L.
Symons of Vernham Dean, B.
Taylor of Blackburn, L.
Taylor of Gryfe, L.
Thomas of Macclesfield, L.
Thurlow, L.
Tryon, L.
Turner of Camden, B.
Varley, L.
Walker of Doncaster, L.
Wallace of Coslany, L.
Watson of Invergowrie, L.
Whitty, L.
Williams of Elvel, L.
Williams of Mostyn, L.
Young of Old Scone, B.

Division No. 2

CRIME AND DISORDER BILL [HL]

It was moved by the Lord Alton of Liverpool, after Clause 16, to insert the new Clause (Video recordings designation); which being objected to, the question was put thereupon, and the House divided:

Contents.............81

Not-Contents.............122

CONTENTS

Ackner, L.
Aldington, L.
Alton of Liverpool, L. [Teller]
Ashbourne, L.
Bath and Wells, Bp.
Beaumont of Whitley, L.
Beloff, L.
Blatch, B.
Braine of Wheatley, L.
Brentford, V.
 Brookes, L.
Caithness, E.
Calverley, L.
Carlisle, Bp.
Carnock, L.
Chalker of Wallasey, B.
Coleraine, L.
Cranbrook, E.
Cuckney, L.
Dean of Harptree, L.
Dholakia, L.
 Dixon-Smith, L.
Elton, L.
Gisborough, L.
Greenway, L.
Halsbury, E.
Hamilton of Dalzell, L.
Harmar-Nicholls, L.
Hayhoe, L.
Hemphill, L.
Hereford, Bp.
Holderness, L.
Hooper, B.

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Hooson, L.
Howell of Guildford, L.
Hylton, L.
Hylton-Foster, B.
Jeffreys, L.
Kenilworth, L.
Leicester, Bp.
Leigh, L.
Linklater of Butterstone, B.
Longford, E.
Lucas of Chilworth, L.
Masham of Ilton, B.
Massereene and Ferrard, V.
Meston, L.
Milverton, L.
Minto, E.
 Molyneaux of Killead, L.
Monckton of Brenchley, V.
Monro of Langholm, L.
Nelson, E.
Newall, L.
O’Cathain, B.
Orr-Ewing, L.
Park of Monmouth, B.
Pearson of Rannoch, L.
Perth, E.
Peyton of Yeovil, L.
Powis, E.
Prior, L.
Renton, L.
Renton of Mount Harry, L.
Rochester, L.
 Saltoun of Abernethy, Ly.
Sandwich, E.
Seccombe, B.
Simon of Glaisdale, L.
Stewartby, L.
Stoddart of Swindon, L.
Swansea, L.
Swinfen, L.
Taverne, L.
Tenby, V.
Thomas of Walliswood, B.
Trefgarne, L.
Waddington, L.
Weatherill, L.
Wynford, L.
Young, B. [Teller]

NOT-CONTENTS

Acton, L.
Addington, L.
Allenby of Megiddo, V.
Alport, L.
Archer of Sandwell, L.
Ashley of Stoke, L.
Barnett, L.
Berkeley, L.
Birdwood, L.
Birkett, L.
Blackstone, B.
Bledisloe, V.
Borrie, L.
Brooks of Tremorfa, L.
Burlison, L.
Carew, L.
Carlisle, E.
Carmichael of Kelvingrove, L.
Carter, L. [Teller]
Castle of Blackburn, B.
Chandos, V.
Clancarty, E.
Cledwyn of Penrhos, L.
Clinton-Davis, L.
Cocks of Hartcliffe, L.
David, B.
Davies of Oldham, L.
Dean of Thornton-le-Fylde, B.
Diamond, L.
Dixon, L.
Dormand of Easington, L.
Evans of Parkside, L.
Falconer of Thoroton, L.
Falkland, V.
Farrington of Ribbleton, B.
Fitt, L.
Gallacher, L.
Geraint, L.
Gilbert, L.
 Gladwin of Clee, L.
Glenamara, L.
Gordon of Strathblane, L.
Gould of Potternewton, B.
Graham of Edmonton, L.
Gregson, L.
Grenfell, L.
Hardie, L.
Hayman, B.
Henderson of Brompton, L.
Hilton of Eggardon, B.
Hollis of Heigham, B.
Howell, L.
Howie of Troon, L.
Hoyle, L.
Hughes of Woodside, L.
Hunt of Kings Heath, L.
Irvine of Lairg, L. (Lord Chancellor)
Islwyn, L.
Janner of Braunstone, L.
Jay of Paddington, B.
Jenkins of Putney, L.
Kennedy of The Shaws, B.
Kilbracken, L.
Lester of Herne Hill, L.
Lockwood, B.
Lofthouse of Pontefract, L.
Lovell-Davis, L.
McIntosh of Haringey, L. [Teller]
McNair, L.
McNally, L.
Maddock, B.
Mallalieu, B.
Mar and Kellie, E.
Mason of Barnsley, L.
Milner of Leeds, L.
Molloy, L.
Monkswell, L.
Monson, L.
Montague of Oxford, L.
 Murray of Epping Forest, L.
Newby, L.
Nicol, B.
Onslow, E.
Orme, L.
Paul, L.
Peston, L.
Pitkeathley, B.
Plant of Highfield, L.
Ponsonby of Shulbrede, L.
Prys-Davies, L.
Ramsay of Cartvale, B.
Randall of St. Budeaux, L.
Rea, L.
Rendell of Babergh, B.
Renwick of Clifton, L.
Richard, L. (Lord Privy Seal)
Rogers of Riverside, L.
Russell, E.
Sefton of Garston, L.
Sewel, L.
Shepherd, L.
Shore of Stepney, L.
Simon, V.
Simon of Highbury, L.
Smith of Gilmorehill, B.
Symons of Vernham Dean, B.
Taylor of Blackburn, L.
Taylor of Gryfe, L.
Thomas of Gresford, L.
Thomas of Macclesfield, L.
Varley, L.
Walker of Doncaster, L.
Wallace of Coslany, L.
Walpole, L.
Watson of Invergowrie, L.
Wedderburn of Charlton, L.
Wharton, B.
Whitty, L.
Williams of Elvel, L.
Williams of Mostyn, L.
Young of Dartington, L.
Young of Old Scone, B.

Division No. 3

CRIME AND DISORDER BILL [HL]

It was moved by the Baroness Masham of Ilton, after Clause 55, to insert the new Clause (Detention of girls under 18); which being objected to, the question was put thereupon, and the House divided:

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Not-Contents.............69

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Ackner, L.
Allenby of Megiddo, V.
Anelay of St. Johns, B.
Annaly, L.
Astor of Hever, L.
Blatch, B.
Byford, B.
Carnegy of Lour, B.
Castle of Blackburn, B.
Chesham, L.
Darcy de Knayth, B.
De Ramsey, L.
Dholakia, L.
Dixon-Smith, L.
Elliott of Morpeth, L.
Flather, B.
 Fookes, B.
Goodhart, L.
Hampton, L.
Harmar-Nicholls, L.
Henley, L.
HolmPatrick, L.
Hooson, L.
Hylton, L.
Kinloss, Ly.
Lucas of Chilworth, L.
Lyell, L.
Mackay of Ardbrecknish, L.
McNally, L.
Maddock, B.
Mar and Kellie, E.
Masham of Ilton, B. [Teller]
Munster, E.
 Northesk, E.
Palmer, L.
Pearson of Rannoch, L.
Renton, L.
Renwick, L.
Roberts of Conwy, L.
Rodgers of Quarry Bank, L.
Seccombe, B.
Stodart of Leaston, L.
Swinfen, L.
Taverne, L.
Tenby, V. [Teller]
Thomas of Gresford, L.
Thomas of Gwydir, L.
Tordoff, L.
Wharton, B.
Wigoder, L.

NOT-CONTENTS

Archer of Sandwell, L.
Berkeley, L.
Blackstone, B.
Brooke of Alverthorpe, L.
Brooks of Tremorfa, L.
Burlison, L.
Carmichael of Kelvingrove, L.
Carter, L. [Teller]
Chandos, V.
Clinton-Davis, L.
Cocks of Hartcliffe, L.
Davies of Oldham, L.
Dixon, L.
Dormand of Easington, L.
Evans of Parkside, L.
Falconer of Thoroton, L.
Farrington of Ribbleton, B.
Fitt, L.
Gallacher, L.
Gilbert, L.
Gordon of Strathblane, L.
Graham of Edmonton, L.
 Grenfell, L.
Hardie, L.
Hardy of Wath, L.
Haskel, L.
Hayman, B.
Hilton of Eggardon, B.
Hollis of Heigham, B.
Howell, L.
Howie of Troon, L.
Hoyle, L.
Hughes of Woodside, L.
Hunt of Kings Heath, L.
Islwyn, L.
Janner of Braunstone, L.
Jay of Paddington, B.
Lofthouse of Pontefract, L.
McIntosh of Haringey, L. [Teller]
Merlyn-Rees, L.
Molloy, L.
Monkswell, L.
Montague of Oxford, L.
Murray of Epping Forest, L.
Nicol, B.
 Paul, L.
Pitkeathley, B.
Ponsonby of Shulbrede, L.
Prys-Davies, L.
Ramsay of Cartvale, B.
Randall of St. Budeaux, L.
Rendell of Babergh, B.
Renwick of Clifton, L.
Richard, L. (Lord Privy Seal)
Sewel, L.
Shepherd, L.
Shore of Stepney, L.
Simon, V.
Simon of Highbury, L.
Smith of Gilmorehill, B.
Symons of Vernham Dean, B.
Taylor of Blackburn, L.
Thomas of Macclesfield, L.
Varley, L.
Watson of Invergowrie, L.
Whitty, L.
Williams of Mostyn, L.
Winston, L.
Young of Old Scone, B.

APPENDIX

ELIZABETH THE SECOND by the Grace of God of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland and of Our other Realms and Territories Queen Head of the Commonwealth Defender of the Faith To all Lords Spiritual and Temporal and all other Our Subjects whatsoever to whom these Presents shall come Greeting Know Ye that We of Our especial grace certain knowledge and mere motion in pursuance of the Life Peerages Act 1958 and of all other powers in that behalf Us enabling do by these Presents advance create and prefer Our right trusty and well beloved Sir Frederick Edward Robin Butler Knight Grand Cross of Our Most Honourable Order of the Bath Commander of Our Royal Victorian Order to the state degree style dignity title and honour of Baron Butler of Brockwell of Herne Hill in Our London Borough of Lambeth.

And for Us Our heirs and successors do appoint give and grant unto him the said name state degree style dignity title and honour of Baron Butler of Brockwell to have and to hold unto him for his life

Willing and by these Presents granting for Us Our heirs and successors that he may have hold and possess a seat place and voice in the Parliaments and Public Assemblies and Councils of Us Our heirs and successors within Our United Kingdom amongst the Barons And also that he may enjoy and use all the rights privileges pre-eminences immunities and advantages to the degree of a Baron duly and of right belonging which Barons of Our United Kingdom have heretofore used and enjoyed or as they do at present use and enjoy

In Witness whereof We have caused these Our Letters to be made Patent Witness Ourself at Westminster the twelfth day of February in the forty-seventh year of Our Reign

BY WARRANT UNDER THE QUEEN’S SIGN MANUAL