House of Lords Journal 231 (Session 1997-98)

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Monday 13 July 1998

The House met at half-past two o’clock.

The following Lords Spiritual and Temporal were present:

Irvine of Lairg, L.
(Lord Chancellor)

Abercorn, D.
Aberdare, L.
Ackner, L.
Addington, L.
Addison, V.
Ailesbury, M.
Ailsa, M.
Alexander of Tunis, E.
Allenby of Megiddo, V.
Alton of Liverpool, L.
Amos, B.
Ampthill, L.
Anelay of St. Johns, B.
Annaly, L.
Annan, L.
Archer of Sandwell, L.
Archer of Weston-Super-Mare, L.
Ashbourne, L.
Astor, V.
Astor of Hever, L.
Attlee, E.
Avebury, L.
Baker of Dorking, L.
Balfour, E.
Banbury of Southam, L.
Barber, L.
Barnett, L.
Bassam of Brighton, L.
Beaumont of Whitley, L.
Belhaven and Stenton, L.
Beloff, L.
 Berkeley, L.
Berners, B.
Bethell, L.
Biddulph, L.
Biffen, L.
Birdwood, L.
Blackstone, B.
Blackwell, L.
Blaker, L.
Blatch, B.
Blease, L.
Bledisloe, V.
Blyth, L.
Borrie, L.
Boston of Faversham, L.
Bowness, L.
Brabazon of Tara, L.
Braine of Wheatley, L.
Brentford, V.
Bridgeman, V.
Brightman, L.
Broadbridge, L.
Brooks of Tremorfa, L.
Brougham and Vaux, L.
Broughshane, L.
Bruce of Donington, L.
Bruntisfield, L.
Burlison, L.
Burnham, L.
Butterworth, L.
Byford, B.
 Cadman, L.
Caldecote, V.
Calverley, L.
Campbell of Alloway, L.
Campbell of Croy, L.
Carlisle, E.
Carmichael of Kelvingrove, L.
Carnegy of Lour, B.
Carnock, L.
Carter, L.
Chalker of Wallasey, B.
Chandos, V.
Charteris of Amisfield, L.
Chesham, L.
Chichester, Bp.
Chorley, L.
Clancarty, E.
Clark of Kempston, L.
Clinton-Davis, L.
Cockfield, L.
Cocks of Hartcliffe, L.
Coleraine, L.
Coleridge, L.
Colwyn, L.
Cooke of Thorndon, L.
Cope of Berkeley, L.
Courtown, E.
Cowdrey of Tonbridge, L.
Cox, B.
Craig of Radley, L.
Craigavon, V.

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Cranborne, V.
Cranbrook, E.
Crathorne, L.
Croham, L.
Cuckney, L.
Cullen of Ashbourne, L.
Currie of Marylebone, L.
Darcy de Knayth, B.
David, B.
Davidson, V.
Davies of Coity, L.
De L’Isle, V.
Dean of Beswick, L.
Dean of Harptree, L.
Dearing, L.
Denbigh, E.
Denham, L.
Denton of Wakefield, B.
Derwent, L.
Desai, L.
Dholakia, L.
Digby, L.
Dilhorne, V.
Dixon, L.
Dixon-Smith, L.
Donegall, M.
Donoughue, L.
Dormand of Easington, L.
Dubs, L.
Dudley, E.
Eatwell, L.
Eden of Winton, L.
Elibank, L.
Ellenborough, L.
Elles, B.
Elliott of Morpeth, L.
Elton, L.
Erne, E.
Erroll, E.
Evans of Parkside, L.
Ezra, L.
Falconer of Thoroton, L.
Falkland, V.
Farrington of Ribbleton, B.
Feversham, L.
Fitt, L.
Fookes, B.
Fraser of Carmyllie, L.
Freyberg, L.
Gainford, L.
Gallacher, L.
Gardner of Parkes, B.
Garel-Jones, L.
Geraint, L.
Gilbert, L.
Gladwin of Clee, L.
Glenamara, L.
Glentoran, L.
Goodhart, L.
Gould of Potternewton, B.
Graham of Edmonton, L.
Grantley, L.
Gray of Contin, L.
Greenway, L.
Gregson, L.
Grenfell, L.
Grey, E.
Hacking, L.
Halsbury, E.
 Hamwee, B.
Harding of Petherton, L.
Hardwicke, E.
Hardy of Wath, L.
Harlech, L.
Harris of Greenwich, L.
Haskel, L.
Haslam, L.
Hayhoe, L.
Hayman, B.
Hayter, L.
Hemphill, L.
Henderson of Brompton, L.
Henley, L.
Higgins, L.
Hilton of Eggardon, B.
Hogg, B.
Hogg of Cumbernauld, L.
Holderness, L.
Hollis of Heigham, B.
Holme of Cheltenham, L.
HolmPatrick, L.
Home, E.
Hood, V.
Hooper, B.
Hooson, L.
Hope of Craighead, L.
Howell of Guildford, L.
Howie of Troon, L.
Hoyle, L.
Hughes, L.
Hughes of Woodside, L.
Hunt of Kings Heath, L.
Hunt of Wirral, L.
Hurd of Westwell, L.
Hylton-Foster, B.
Ilchester, E.
Inchcape, E.
Ironside, L.
Islwyn, L.
Iveagh, E.
Jacobs, L.
Janner of Braunstone, L.
Jay of Paddington, B.
Jeger, B.
Jenkin of Roding, L.
Jenkins of Hillhead, L.
Jenkins of Putney, L.
Johnston of Rockport, L.
Judd, L.
Kenilworth, L.
Kennedy of The Shaws, B.
Kennet, L.
Kilbracken, L.
Kimball, L.
Kinloss, Ly.
Kinnoull, E.
Kirkhill, L.
Knight of Collingtree, B.
Knollys, V.
Lane of Horsell, L.
Lauderdale, E.
Lawrence, L.
Layton, L.
Leicester, Bp.
Leigh, L.
Lester of Herne Hill, L.
Levy, L.
Liverpool, E.
 Lloyd-George of Dwyfor, E.
Lockwood, B.
Lofthouse of Pontefract, L.
London, Bp.
Long, V.
Longford, E.
Lovell-Davis, L.
Lowry, L.
Lucas, L.
Lucas of Chilworth, L.
Ludford, B.
Luke, L.
Lyell, L.
McCarthy, L.
McColl of Dulwich, L.
Macfarlane of Bearsden, L.
McFarlane of Llandaff, B.
McIntosh of Haringey, L.
Mackay of Ardbrecknish, L.
Mackay of Drumadoon, L.
Macleod of Borve, B.
McNair, L.
McNally, L.
Maddock, B.
Mallalieu, B.
Mancroft, L.
Mar, C.
Marlesford, L.
Marsh, L.
Masham of Ilton, B.
Mason of Barnsley, L.
Massereene and Ferrard, V.
Mayhew of Twysden, L.
Merlyn-Rees, L.
Mersey, V.
Meston, L.
Middleton, L.
Miller of Hendon, B.
Milner of Leeds, L.
Milverton, L.
Molloy, L.
Monkswell, L.
Monson, L.
Montagu of Beaulieu, L.
Montague of Oxford, L.
Monteagle of Brandon, L.
Montgomery of Alamein, V.
Montrose, D.
Moore of Wolvercote, L.
Moran, L.
Morris of Manchester, L.
Mottistone, L.
Mountevans, L.
Mowbray and Stourton, L.
Moyne, L.
Munster, E.
Murray of Epping Forest, L.
Murton of Lindisfarne, L.
Napier and Ettrick, L.
Naseby, L.
Nathan, L.
Nelson, E.
Newall, L.
Newby, L.
Newton of Braintree, L.
Nicholson of Winterbourne, B.
Nicol, B.
Noel-Buxton, L.
Norfolk, D.

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Norrie, L.
Northesk, E.
Norton, L.
O’Cathain, B.
Onslow of Woking, L.
Oppenheim-Barnes, B.
Orme, L.
Orr-Ewing, L.
Oxford, Bp.
Oxfuird, V.
Park of Monmouth, B.
Paul, L.
Pearson of Rannoch, L.
Peel, E.
Pender, L.
Perry of Southwark, B.
Perry of Walton, L.
Perth, E.
Peston, L.
Peyton of Yeovil, L.
Pilkington of Oxenford, L.
Pitkeathley, B.
Platt of Writtle, B.
Ponsonby of Shulbrede, L.
Porter of Luddenham, L.
Prentice, L.
Prior, L.
Prys-Davies, L.
Pym, L.
Quirk, L.
Ramsay of Cartvale, B.
Randall of St. Budeaux, L.
Rankeillour, L.
Rawlings, B.
Razzall, L.
Rea, L.
Redesdale, L.
Rees, L.
Rendell of Babergh, B.
Rennell, L.
Renton, L.
Renwick, L.
Renwick of Clifton, L.
 Richard, L.
Ripon, Bp.
Rix, L.
Roberts of Conwy, L.
Rochester, L.
Rodgers of Quarry Bank, L.
Rogers of Riverside, L.
Romney, E.
Rowallan, L.
Russell, E.
Russell-Johnston, L.
Ryder of Wensum, L.
Saatchi, L.
St. Davids, V.
St. John of Bletso, L.
St. John of Fawsley, L.
Sandberg, L.
Scotland of Asthal, B.
Seccombe, B.
Sefton of Garston, L.
Selkirk of Douglas, L.
Sempill, L.
Serota, B.
Sewel, L.
Shannon, E.
Sharples, B.
Shaughnessy, L.
Shepherd, L.
Shore of Stepney, L.
Simon, V.
Simon of Glaisdale, L.
Simon of Highbury, L.
Skelmersdale, L.
Slim, V.
Slynn of Hadley, L.
Smith of Gilmorehill, B.
Soulsby of Swaffham Prior, L.
Stallard, L.
Stewartby, L.
Stoddart of Swindon, L.
Stone of Blackheath, L.
Strabolgi, L.
Strange, B.
 Strathcarron, L.
Strathclyde, L.
Sudeley, L.
Suffield, L.
Swinfen, L.
Taverne, L.
Taylor of Blackburn, L.
Taylor of Gryfe, L.
Taylor of Warwick, L.
Tebbit, L.
Tenby, V.
Teviot, L.
Thomas of Walliswood, B.
Thomson of Monifieth, L.
Tope, L.
Tordoff, L.
Trefgarne, L.
Trumpington, B.
Tugendhat, L.
Turner of Camden, B.
Ullswater, V.
Vinson, L.
Vivian, L.
Waddington, L.
Wade of Chorlton, L.
Walker of Doncaster, L.
Wallace of Saltaire, L.
Warnock, B.
Weatherill, L.
Wedgwood, L.
Westbury, L.
Wharton, B.
Whitty, L.
Wigoder, L.
Wilberforce, L.
Williams of Crosby, B.
Williams of Elvel, L.
Williams of Mostyn, L.
Winchilsea and Nottingham, E.
Winston, L.
Wise, L.
Wright of Richmond, L.
Young, B.
Young of Old Scone, B.

PRAYERS were read by the Lord Bishop of Oxford.

Judicial Business

1.Nessa (A.P.) (Appellant) v. Chief Adjudication Officer and another (Respondents) (lodged 18th May) (England)—The appeal of Joybun Nessa was presented and it was ordered that in accordance with Standing Order VI the statement and appendix thereto be lodged on or before 24th August next. The appellant’s legal aid certificate was lodged.
2.Creska Limited (Respondents) v. London Borough of Hammersmith and Fulham (Petitioners)—The petition of the Mayor etc. of the London Borough of Hammersmith and Fulham praying for leave to appeal was presented and referred to an Appeal Committee.
3.White (Petitioner) v. White (Respondent)—The petition of Martin Edward John White praying for leave to appeal was presented and referred to an Appeal Committee.
4.Her Majesty’s Attorney General (Respondent) v. Tejendrasingh (Petitioner)—The petition of Sardar Tejendrasingh praying for leave to appeal notwithstanding that the time limited by Standing Order II has expired was presented without payment of the fee, such fee having been waived by the Appeal Committee pursuant to Standing Order XIII; the said petition was referred to an Appeal Committee.
5.Matin (Respondent) v. Matin (Petitioner)—The petition of Abdul Matin praying for leave to appeal notwithstanding that the time limited by Standing Order II has expired was presented without payment of the fee, such fee having been waived by the Appeal Committee pursuant to Standing Order XIII; the said petition was referred to an Appeal Committee.

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6.N’Dow (Petitioner) v. Timmis-Desai Solicitors (Respondents)—The petition of Assan N’Dow praying for leave to appeal was presented without payment of the fee, such fee having been waived by the Appeal Committee pursuant to Standing Order XIII; the said petition was referred to an Appeal Committee.
7.Regina v. Bingham (Appellant) (On Appeal from the Court of Appeal in Northern Ireland)—The appeal was set down for hearing and referred to an Appellate Committee.
8.Regina v. Hertfordshire County Council (Respondents) ex parte Green Environmental Industries Limited and another (A.P.) (Appellant)—The petition of the appellant praying that the time for lodging the statement and appendix and setting down the cause for hearing might be extended to 24th August next (the agents for the respondents consenting thereto) was presented; and it was ordered as prayed.
9.Appeal Committee—The following Order was made pursuant to the 79th Report:

Commissioners of Customs and Excise (Petitioners) v. British Telecommunications Plc (Respondents)—That leave to appeal be given, and that the petition of appeal be lodged by 27th July next.

10.Appeal Committee—The 83rd Report from the Appeal Committee was agreed to and the following Orders were made:

Berkeley (Petitioner) v. Secretary of State for the Environment and others (Respondents)—That the respondents be invited to lodge objections by 20th July next.

Regina v. Secretary of State for the Environment, Transport and Regions (Respondent) ex parte Marson (Petitioner)—That the respondent be invited to lodge objections by 20th July next.

Boom Time Holdings Limited (Respondents) v. Goldman Sachs International (Petitioners)—That leave to appeal be refused.

Khazanchi and another (A.P.) (Petitioners) v. Faircharm Investments Limited and others (Respondents)—That leave to appeal be refused; that the costs of the petitioners be taxed in accordance with the Legal Aid Act 1988; and that the respondents be at liberty to apply for their costs in accordance with direction 5.1(c) and, if the application is granted, that the amount thereof be certified by the Clerk of the Parliaments if not agreed between the parties.

Her Majesty’s Attorney General (Respondent) v. Tejendrasingh (Petitioner)—That the petition be dismissed as inadmissible.

Matin (Respondent) v. Matin (Petitioner)—That leave to appeal be refused.

N’Dow (Petitioner) v. Timmis-Desai Solicitors (Respondents)—That leave to appeal be refused.

Papers

11.Command Papers—The following papers were presented to the House by command of Her Majesty and ordered to lie on the Table:
1.Social Security—Beating Fraud is Everyone’s Business–securing the future: Government consultation document;
 (4012)
2.Science and Technology—Science, Engineering and Technology Statistics for 1998.
 (4006)
12.Statutory Instruments (Standing Order 68)—The following negative instruments, having been laid before the House on 10th July, were ordered to lie on the Table:
1.Education (Student Loans) (Amendment) Regulations 1998, laid under the Education (Student Loans) Act 1990;
 (1676)
2.Food (Cheese) (Emergency Control) (Amendment No. 2) Order 1998, laid under the Food Safety Act 1990.
 (1673)
13.Deregulation—The following document was laid before the House under section 3(3) of the Deregulation and Contracting Out Act 1994 and referred to the Delegated Powers and Deregulation Committee:

Proposal for the Draft Deregulation (Occasional Licences) Order 1998.

14.Negative Instruments—The following instruments were laid before the House and ordered to lie on the Table:
1.Merchant Shipping (Small Workboats and Pilot Boats) Regulations 1998, laid under the Merchant Shipping Act 1995;
 (1609)
2.Royal Ulster Constabulary Pensions (Amendment) Regulations 1998, laid under the Police Act (Northern Ireland) 1970.
 (—)
15.Papers not subject to parliamentary proceedings—The following papers were laid before the House and ordered to lie on the Table:
1.Accounts for 1997–98 of the Data Protection Registrar, together with the Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General, laid under the Data Protection Act 1984;

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2.Report for 1997–98 of the National Museums of Scotland, laid under the National Heritage (Scotland) Act 1985;
3.Accounts for 1997–98 of the Human Fertilisation and Embryology Authority, together with the Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General, laid under the Human Fertilisation and Embryology Act 1990;
4.Tai Cymru (Housing for Wales):
(i)Report for 1997–98—
(ii)Accounts for 1997–98—
laid under the Housing Associations Act 1985.

Select Committee Report

16.House of Lords’ Offices—The 6th Report from the Select Committee was made (see appendix); it was ordered that the report be printed. (HL Paper 130)

Public Business

17.Landmines Bill—A bill to promote the control of anti-personnel landmines; and for connected purposes was brought from the Commons, read a first time and ordered to be printed. (HL Bill 143)
18.Statute Law (Repeals) Bill [HL]—The order of re-commitment was discharged.
19.School Standards and Framework Bill—The bill was read a third time; an amendment was agreed to (see division list 1); amendments were disagreed to (see division lists 2 to 5); an amendment was moved and (by leave of the House) withdrawn; then, after debate, the bill was passed and returned to the Commons with amendments.
20.European Court of Human Rights—The Lord Lester of Herne Hill asked Her Majesty’s Government whether they will seek to improve the procedures for the election of Judges to the European Court of Human Rights by the Parliamentary Assembly of the Council of Europe; after debate, the question was answered by the Lord Chancellor.

The House was adjourned at a quarter-before nine o’clock
till tomorrow, half-past two o’clock.

DIVISIONS

Division No. 1

SCHOOL STANDARDS AND FRAMEWORK BILL

It was moved by the Lord Tope to leave out clause 24; which being objected to, the question was put thereupon, and the House divided:

Contents.............173

Not-Contents...............104

CONTENTS

Aberdare, L.
Addington, L. [Teller]
Addison, V.
Ailsa, M.
Alexander of Tunis, E.
Ampthill, L.
Anelay of St. Johns, B.
Annaly, L.
Astor of Hever, L.
Balfour, E.
Barber, L.
Beaumont of Whitley, L.
Belhaven and Stenton, L.
Berners, B.
Biddulph, L.
Biffen, L.
Blaker, L.
Blatch, B.
Bowness, L.
Bridgeman, V.
Broadbridge, L.
 Brougham and Vaux, L.
Bruntisfield, L.
Burnham, L.
Butterworth, L.
Byford, B.
Cadman, L.
Caldecote, V.
Campbell of Alloway, L.
Campbell of Croy, L.
Carlisle, E.
Carnegy of Lour, B.
Charteris of Amisfield, L.
Chesham, L.
Coleridge, L.
Colwyn, L.
Cope of Berkeley, L.
Courtown, E.
Cowdrey of Tonbridge, L.
Craig of Radley, L.
Cranborne, V.
Cranbrook, E.
Cullen of Ashbourne, L.
 Darcy de Knayth, B.
Davidson, V.
De L’Isle, V.
Dean of Harptree, L.
Dearing, L.
Denbigh, E.
Denham, L.
Denton of Wakefield, B.
Dholakia, L.
Dixon-Smith, L.
Elibank, L.
Ellenborough, L.
Elles, B.
Elliott of Morpeth, L.
Erne, E.
Ezra, L.
Fookes, B.
Gainford, L.
Gardner of Parkes, B.
Garel-Jones, L.
Glentoran, L.
Goodhart, L.
Halsbury, E.

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Hamwee, B.
Harding of Petherton, L.
Harlech, L.
Harris of Greenwich, L.
Hayhoe, L.
Henley, L.
Higgins, L.
Hogg, B.
Holderness, L.
Holme of Cheltenham, L.
Home, E.
Hood, V.
Hooper, B.
Hylton-Foster, B.
Ilchester, E.
Iveagh, E.
Jenkins of Hillhead, L.
Johnston of Rockport, L.
Kimball, L.
Knight of Collingtree, B.
Lane of Horsell, L.
Layton, L.
Leigh, L.
Liverpool, E.
Long, V.
Lucas, L.
Lucas of Chilworth, L.
Ludford, B.
Luke, L.
McColl of Dulwich, L.
MacFarlane of Bearsden, L.
Mackay of Ardbrecknish, L.
Mackay of Drumadoon, L.
Macleod of Borve, B.
McNair, L.
 McNally, L.
Maddock, B.
Masham of Ilton, B.
Mayhew of Twysden, L.
Mersey, V.
Middleton, L.
Miller of Hendon, B.
Milverton, L.
Monteagle of Brandon, L.
Mottistone, L.
Mountevans, L.
Mowbray and Stourton, L.
Moyne, L.
Munster, E.
Murton of Lindisfarne, L.
Naseby, L.
Nathan, L.
Newby, L.
Nicholson of Winterbourne, B.
Norfolk, D.
Norrie, L.
Northesk, E.
O’Cathain, B.
Onslow of Woking, L.
Oppenheim-Barnes, B.
Orr-Ewing, L.
Oxfuird, V.
Pender, L.
Perry of Southwark, B.
Pilkington of Oxenford, L.
Platt of Writtle, B.
Prentice, L.
Pym, L.
Rankeillour, L.
Rawlings, B.
 Razzall, L.
Renton, L.
Renwick, L.
Roberts of Conwy, L.
Rochester, L.
Rodgers of Quarry Bank, L.
Romney, E.
Russell, E.
Russell-Johnston, L.
Saatchi, L.
Sandberg, L.
Seccombe, B.
Selkirk of Douglas, L.
Sharples, B.
Simon of Glaisdale, L.
Soulsby of Swaffham Prior, L.
Strange, B.
Strathclyde, L.
Swinfen, L.
Taverne, L.
Taylor of Warwick, L.
Thomas of Walliswood, B.
Thomson of Monifieth, L.
Tope, L. [Teller]
Tordoff, L.
Trumpington, B.
Vinson, L.
Vivian, L.
Waddington, L.
Wallace of Saltaire, L.
Warnock, B.
Westbury, L.
Wigoder, L.
Williams of Crosby, B.
Winchilsea and Nottingham, E.
Wise, L.
Young, B.

NOT-CONTENTS

Ailesbury, M.
Amos, B.
Annan, L.
Archer of Sandwell, L.
Barnett, L.
Bassam of Brighton, L.
Berkeley, L.
Blackstone, B.
Blease, L.
Blyth, L.
Borrie, L.
Brooks of Tremorfa, L.
Bruce of Donington, L.
Burlison, L.
Carmichael of Kelvingrove, L.
Carter, L. [Teller]
Clinton-Davis, L.
Cocks of Hartcliffe, L.
Currie of Marylebone, L.
David, B.
Davies of Coity, L.
Dean of Beswick, L.
Desai, L.
Dixon, L.
Donoughue, L.
Dormand of Easington, L.
Dubs, L.
Evans of Parkside, L.
Falconer of Thoroton, L.
 Farrington of Ribbleton, B.
Fitt, L.
Gallacher, L.
Gilbert, L.
Gladwin of Clee, L.
Glenamara, L.
Graham of Edmonton, L.
Gregson, L.
Grenfell, L.
Hacking, L.
Hardy of Wath, L.
Haskel, L.
Hayman, B.
Hilton of Eggardon, B.
Hogg of Cumbernauld, L.
Hollis of Heigham, B.
Howie of Troon, L.
Hoyle, L.
Hughes of Woodside, L.
Hunt of Kings Heath, L.
Irvine of Lairg, L. (Lord Chancellor)
Islwyn, L.
Jay of Paddington, B.
Jeger, B.
Jenkins of Putney, L.
Judd, L.
Kennedy of The Shaws, B.
Kennet, L.
Levy, L.
Lockwood, B.
 Lofthouse of Pontefract, L.
Longford, E.
Lovell-Davis, L.
McIntosh of Haringey, L. [Teller]
Marsh, L.
Mason of Barnsley, L.
Merlyn-Rees, L.
Milner of Leeds, L.
Monkswell, L.
Montague of Oxford, L.
Morris of Manchester, L.
Murray of Epping Forest, L.
Nelson, E.
Nicol, B.
Orme, L.
Oxford, Bp.
Peston, L.
Ponsonby of Shulbrede, L.
Prys-Davies, L.
Ramsay of Cartvale, B.
Randall of St. Budeaux, L.
Rendell of Babergh, B.
Richard, L. (Lord Privy Seal)
Ripon, Bp.
Rix, L.
Rogers of Riverside, L.
Sefton of Garston, L.
Serota, B.
Shepherd, L.
Shore of Stepney, L.
Simon, V.
Simon of Highbury, L.
Stallard, L.

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Stoddart of Swindon, L.
Strabolgi, L.
Taylor of Blackburn, L.
 Taylor of Gryfe, L.
Turner of Camden, B.
Walker of Doncaster, L.
 Weatherill, L.
Whitty, L.
Williams of Elvel, L.
Williams of Mostyn, L.
Winston, L.
Young of Old Scone, B.

Division No. 2

SCHOOL STANDARDS AND FRAMEWORK BILL

It was moved by the Baroness Blatch, in clause 28, page 27, line 8, at end to insert:

(“( ) Proposals under this section shall include provision to ensure that any school making the transition to foundation, voluntary aided or community status shall retain at least the same level of financial autonomy as it had before that transition.”);
which being objected to, the question was put thereupon, and the House divided:

Contents.............111

Not-Contents.............134

CONTENTS

Aberdare, L.
Ailesbury, M.
Ailsa, M.
Alexander of Tunis, E.
Ampthill, L.
Annaly, L.
Ashbourne, L.
Astor, V.
Astor of Hever, L.
Baker of Dorking, L.
Balfour, E.
Belhaven and Stenton, L.
Beloff, L.
Berners, B.
Biffen, L.
Blaker, L.
Blatch, B.
Bowness, L.
Brentford, V.
Bridgeman, V.
Broadbridge, L.
Bruntisfield, L.
Butterworth, L.
Byford, B. [Teller]
Cadman, L.
Caldecote, V.
Carnegy of Lour, B.
Charteris of Amisfield, L.
Coleraine, L.
Coleridge, L.
Colwyn, L.
Craig of Radley, L.
Cranbrook, E.
Davidson, V.
De L’Isle, V.
Denham, L.
 Denton of Wakefield, B.
Derwent, L.
Dixon-Smith, L.
Donegall, M.
Elibank, L.
Ellenborough, L.
Elles, B.
Elliott of Morpeth, L.
Erne, E.
Fookes, B.
Gainford, L.
Gardner of Parkes, B.
Garel-Jones, L.
Gray of Contin, L.
Haslam, L.
Hayhoe, L.
Hemphill, L.
Hogg, B.
Holderness, L.
Home, E.
Hood, V.
Hooper, B.
Inchcape, E.
Jenkin of Roding, L.
Knight of Collingtree, B.
Lauderdale, E.
Lloyd-George of Dwyfor, E.
Lucas, L.
Lyell, L.
McColl of Dulwich, L.
Mackay of Drumadoon, L.
Macleod of Borve, B.
Marsh, L.
Masham of Ilton, B.
Mayhew of Twysden, L.
Mersey, V.
Middleton, L.
 Miller of Hendon, B.
Milverton, L.
Mottistone, L.
Mountevans, L.
Mowbray and Stourton, L.
Moyne, L.
Munster, E.
Murton of Lindisfarne, L.
Naseby, L.
Newton of Braintree, L.
Noel-Buxton, L.
Norfolk, D.
Norrie, L.
Onslow of Woking, L.
Oppenheim-Barnes, B.
Perry of Southwark, B.
Pilkington of Oxenford, L.
Platt of Writtle, B.
Prentice, L.
Pym, L.
Rawlings, B.
Renton, L.
Romney, E.
Rowallan, L.
Seccombe, B. [Teller]
Selkirk of Douglas, L.
Soulsby of Swaffham Prior, L.
Strange, B.
Strathclyde, L.
Swinfen, L.
Teviot, L.
Trefgarne, L.
Trumpington, B.
Vinson, L.
Vivian, L.
Waddington, L.
Westbury, L.
Young, B.

NOT-CONTENTS

Addington, L.
Allenby of Megiddo, V.
Amos, B.
Annan, L.
Archer of Sandwell, L.
Avebury, L.
Barnett, L.
Bassam of Brighton, L.
 Beaumont of Whitley, L.
Berkeley, L.
Blackstone, B.
Blease, L.
Blyth, L.
Borrie, L.
Brooks of Tremorfa, L.
Bruce of Donington, L.
Burlison, L.
 Carlisle, E.
Carmichael of Kelvingrove, L.
Carter, L. [Teller]
Clinton-Davis, L.
Cocks of Hartcliffe, L.
Currie of Marylebone, L.
David, B.
Davies of Coity, L.
Dean of Beswick, L.
Desai, L.

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Dholakia, L.
Dixon, L.
Donoughue, L.
Dormand of Easington, L.
Dubs, L.
Eatwell, L.
Evans of Parkside, L.
Ezra, L.
Falconer of Thoroton, L.
Farrington of Ribbleton, B.
Fitt, L.
Gallacher, L.
Gilbert, L.
Gladwin of Clee, L.
Glenamara, L.
Graham of Edmonton, L.
Gregson, L.
Grenfell, L.
Hacking, L.
Hamwee, B.
Hardy of Wath, L.
Haskel, L.
Hayman, B.
Hilton of Eggardon, B.
Hogg of Cumbernauld, L.
Hollis of Heigham, B.
Hooson, L.
Howie of Troon, L.
Hoyle, L.
Hughes, L.
Hunt of Kings Heath, L.
Irvine of Lairg, L. (Lord Chancellor)
Islwyn, L.
Jay of Paddington, B.
Jeger, B.
 Jenkins of Putney, L.
Judd, L.
Kennedy of The Shaws, B.
Kennet, L.
Levy, L.
Lockwood, B.
Lofthouse of Pontefract, L.
Longford, E.
Lovell-Davis, L.
Ludford, B.
McCarthy, L.
McIntosh of Haringey, L. [Teller]
McNair, L.
McNally, L.
Maddock, B.
Mason of Barnsley, L.
Merlyn-Rees, L.
Milner of Leeds, L.
Molloy, L.
Monkswell, L.
Montague of Oxford, L.
Morris of Manchester, L.
Murray of Epping Forest, L.
Nathan, L.
Newby, L.
Nicholson of Winterbourne, B.
Nicol, B.
Orme, L.
Oxford, Bp.
Peston, L.
Ponsonby of Shulbrede, L.
Prys-Davies, L.
Ramsay of Cartvale, B.
Randall of St. Budeaux, L.
Razzall, L.
 Rendell of Babergh, B.
Richard, L. (Lord Privy Seal)
Ripon, Bp.
Rix, L.
Rochester, L.
Rogers of Riverside, L.
Russell, E.
Russell-Johnston, L.
Sandberg, L.
Scotland of Asthal, B.
Sefton of Garston, L.
Serota, B.
Shepherd, L.
Shore of Stepney, L.
Simon, V.
Simon of Highbury, L.
Smith of Gilmorehill, B.
Stallard, L.
Stoddart of Swindon, L.
Strabolgi, L.
Taverne, L.
Taylor of Blackburn, L.
Taylor of Gryfe, L.
Thomas of Walliswood, B.
Thomson of Monifieth, L.
Tope, L.
Tordoff, L.
Turner of Camden, B.
Walker of Doncaster, L.
Wallace of Saltaire, L.
Whitty, L.
Williams of Crosby, B.
Williams of Elvel, L.
Williams of Mostyn, L.
Winchilsea and Nottingham, E.
Winston, L.
Young of Old Scone, B.

Division No. 3

SCHOOL STANDARDS AND FRAMEWORK BILL

It was moved by the Baroness Maddock, in clause 39, page 34, line 22, at end to insert:

(“( ) The governing body of a maintained school shall have a duty to facilitate and give reasonable assistance to parents who wish to establish an organisation within the school to represent parents when 20 per cent. of those parents have petitioned for it.”);
which being objected to, the question was put thereupon, and the House divided:

Contents.............33

Not-Contents.............115

CONTENTS

Addington, L.
Ailesbury, M.
Alton of Liverpool, L.
Avebury, L.
Beaumont of Whitley, L.
Carlisle, E.
Charteris of Amisfield, L.
Chichester, Bp.
Dholakia, L.
Falkland, V.
 Geraint, L.
Goodhart, L.
Halsbury, E.
Harris of Greenwich, L.
Hooson, L.
Jenkins of Hillhead, L.
McNair, L.
McNally, L.
Maddock, B.
Nicholson of Winterbourne, B.
Orr-Ewing, L.
 Ripon, Bp.
Rochester, L.
Rodgers of Quarry Bank, L.
Russell, E.
Sandberg, L.
Thomas of Walliswood, B. [Teller]
Thomson of Monifieth, L.
Tope, L. [Teller]
Tordoff, L.
Wallace of Saltaire, L.
Williams of Crosby, B.
Winchilsea and Nottingham, E.

NOT-CONTENTS

Allenby of Megiddo, V.
Amos, B.
Archer of Sandwell, L.
 Barnett, L.
Bassam of Brighton, L.
Berkeley, L.
Blackstone, B.
 Blatch, B.
Blease, L.
Borrie, L.
Braine of Wheatley, L.
Broadbridge, L.

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Brooks of Tremorfa, L.
Bruce of Donington, L.
Burlison, L.
Carmichael of Kelvingrove, L.
Carter, L. [Teller]
Clinton-Davis, L.
Cocks of Hartcliffe, L.
Coleridge, L.
Courtown, E.
Cox, B.
Cranbrook, E.
Currie of Marylebone, L.
Davies of Coity, L.
Dean of Beswick, L.
Denton of Wakefield, B.
Desai, L.
Dilhorne, V.
Dixon, L.
Donoghue, L.
Dormand of Easington, L.
Dubs, L.
Eatwell, L.
Evans of Parkside, L.
Falconer of Thoroton, L.
Farrington of Ribbleton, B.
Fitt, L.
Gallacher, L.
Gilbert, L.
Gladwin of Clee, L.
Glenamara, L.
Graham of Edmonton, L.
Gregson, L.
Grenfell, L.
Hacking, L.
 Hardy of Wath, L.
Haskel, L.
Hayman, B.
Hilton of Eggardon, B.
Hogg of Cumbernauld, L.
Hollis of Heigham, B.
Howie of Troon, L.
Hughes, L.
Hughes of Woodside, L.
Irvine of Lairg, L. (Lord Chancellor)
Islwyn, L.
Jay of Paddington, B.
Jeger, B.
Jenkins of Putney, L.
Judd, L.
Kennedy of The Shaws, B.
Kennet, L.
Lauderdale, E.
Leigh, L.
Levy, L.
Lockwood, B.
Lofthouse of Pontefract, L.
Longford, E.
Lovell-Davis, L.
McCarthy, L.
McIntosh of Haringey, L. [Teller]
Mallalieu, B.
Mason of Barnsley, L.
Merlyn-Rees, L.
Milner of Leeds, L.
Molloy, L.
Monkswell, L.
Montague of Oxford, L.
Morris of Manchester, L.
 Murray of Epping Forest, L.
Newby, L.
Nicol, B.
Orme, L.
Paul, L.
Pilkington of Oxenford, L.
Ponsonby of Shulbrede, L.
Prys-Davies, L.
Ramsay of Cartvale, B.
Randall of St. Budeaux, L.
Rendell of Babergh, B.
Richard, L. (Lord Privy Seal)
Rogers of Riverside, L.
Scotland of Asthal, B.
Serota, B.
Sewel, L.
Shepherd, L.
Shore of Stepney, L.
Simon, V.
Simon of Highbury, L.
Smith of Gilmorehill, B.
Stoddart of Swindon, L.
Stone of Blackheath, L.
Strabolgi, L.
Taverne, L.
Taylor of Gryfe, L.
Tenby, V.
Turner of Camden, B.
Walker of Doncaster, L.
Weatherill, L.
Whitty, L.
Williams of Elvel, L.
Williams of Mostyn, L.
Winston, L.
Young of Old Scone, B.

Division No. 4

SCHOOL STANDARDS AND FRAMEWORK BILL

It was moved by the Baroness Blatch, in clause 114, page 84, line 37, after (“are”) to insert:

(“(a) registered parents of registered pupils at the grammar school or schools in question; and

(b)“);

which being objected to, the question was put thereupon, and the House divided:

Contents.............91

Not-Contents.............130

CONTENTS

Allenby of Megiddo, V.
Alton of Liverpool, L.
Annaly, L.
Barber, L.
Beloff, L.
Berners, B.
Biddulph, L.
Blaker, L.
Blatch, B.
Bowness, L.
Burnham, L. [Teller]
Butterworth, L.
Byford, B.
Cadman, L.
Calverley, L.
Carnegy of Lour, B.
Clark of Kempston, L.
Coleraine, L.
 Coleridge, L.
Colwyn, L.
Cope of Berkeley, L.
Cox, B.
Croham, L.
Dean of Harptree, L.
Dixon-Smith, L.
Elibank, L.
Ellenborough, L.
Elliott of Morpeth, L.
Elton, L.
Fookes, B.
Fraser of Carmyllie, L.
Glentoran, L.
Greenway, L.
Harlech, L.
Haslam, L.
Hemphill, L.
HolmPatrick, L.
 Hooper, B.
Howell of Guildford, L.
Hunt of Wirral, L.
Hurd of Westwell, L.
Jenkin of Roding, L.
Knight of Collingtree, B.
Lane of Horsell, L.
Lucas, L.
Lyell, L.
Macleod of Borve, B.
Mancroft, L.
Massereene and Ferrard, V.
Mayhew of Twysden, L.
Mersey, V.
Middleton, L.
Monson, L.
Montagu of Beaulieu, L.
Montgomery of Alamein, V.
Mottistone, L.
Mountevans, L.

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Mowbray and Stourton, L.
Nelson, E.
Norrie, L.
Northesk, E.
Orr-Ewing, L.
Park of Monmouth, B.
Peyton of Yeovil, L.
Pilkington of Oxenford, L.
Platt of Writtle, B.
Prior, L.
Pym, L.
 Rawlings, B.
Rees, L.
Rowallan, L.
Saatchi, L.
St. John of Fawsley, L.
Seccombe, B. [Teller]
Sharples, B.
Simon of Glaisdale, L.
Skelmersdale, L.
Soulsby of Swaffham Prior, L.
Stewartby, L.
 Strange, B.
Sudeley, L.
Tebbit, L.
Trefgarne, L.
Trumpington, B.
Vinson, L.
Vivian, L.
Waddington, L.
Weatherill, L.
Wedgwood, L.
Wharton, B.
Wise, L.

NOT-CONTENTS

Addington, L.
Amos, B.
Archer of Sandwell, L.
Barnett, L.
Bassam of Brighton, L.
Berkeley, L.
Blackstone, B.
Blease, L.
Borrie, L.
Brooks of Tremorfa, L.
Bruce of Donington, L.
Burlison, L.
Carlisle, E.
Carmichael of Kelvingrove, L.
Carter, L. [Teller]
Clinton-Davis, L.
Cocks of Hartcliffe, L.
Currie of Marylebone, L.
David, B.
Davies of Coity, L.
Dean of Beswick, L.
Desai, L.
Dholakia, L.
Dixon, L.
Donoughue, L.
Dormand of Easington, L.
Dubs, L.
Eatwell, L.
Evans of Parkside, L.
Falconer of Thoroton, L.
Falkland, V.
Farrington of Ribbleton, B.
Fitt, L.
Gallacher, L.
Gilbert, L.
Gladwin of Clee, L.
Glenamara, L.
Graham of Edmonton, L.
Gregson, L.
Grenfell, L.
Hacking, L.
Hamwee, B.
 Hardy of Wath, L.
Harris of Greenwich, L.
Haskel, L.
Hayman, B.
Hilton of Eggardon, B.
Hogg of Cumbernauld, L.
Hollis of Heigham, B.
Hooson, L.
Howie of Troon, L.
Hoyle, L.
Hughes, L.
Hughes of Woodside, L.
Hunt of Kings Heath, L.
Irvine of Lairg, L. (Lord Chancellor)
Islwyn, L.
Jacobs, L.
Jay of Paddington, B.
Jeger, B.
Jenkins of Putney, L.
Judd, L.
Kennedy of The Shaws, B.
Lester of Herne Hill, L.
Levy, L.
Lockwood, B.
Lofthouse of Pontefract, L.
McCarthy, L.
McIntosh of Haringey, L. [Teller]
McNally, L.
Maddock, B.
Mallalieu, B.
Mason of Barnsley, L.
Merlyn-Rees, L.
Milner of Leeds, L.
Molloy, L.
Monkswell, L.
Montague of Oxford, L.
Morris of Manchester, L.
Murray of Epping Forest, L.
Nathan, L.
Newby, L.
Nicholson of Winterbourne, B.
Nicol, B.
Orme, L.
 Paul, L.
Peston, L.
Pitkeathley, B.
Ponsonby of Shulbrede, L.
Prys-Davies, L.
Ramsay of Cartvale, B.
Randall of St. Budeaux, L.
Rea, L.
Redesdale, L.
Rendell of Babergh, B.
Richard, L. (Lord Privy Seal)
Ripon, Bp.
Rochester, L.
Rodgers of Quarry Bank, L.
Rogers of Riverside, L.
Russell, E.
Russell-Johnston, L.
Scotland of Asthal, B.
Sefton of Garston, L.
Serota, B.
Sewel, L.
Shepherd, L.
Simon, V.
Simon of Highbury, L.
Smith of Gilmorehill, B.
Stoddart of Swindon, L.
Stone of Blackheath, L.
Strabolgi, L.
Taverne, L.
Taylor of Blackburn, L.
Taylor of Gryfe, L.
Thomas of Walliswood, B.
Thomson of Monifieth, L.
Tope, L.
Tordoff, L.
Turner of Camden, B.
Walker of Doncaster, L.
Wallace of Saltaire, L.
Whitty, L.
Williams of Crosby, B.
Williams of Elvel, L.
Williams of Mostyn, L.
Winchilsea and Nottingham, E.
Winston, L.
Young of Old Scone, B.

Division No. 5

SCHOOL STANDARDS AND FRAMEWORK BILL

It was moved by the Lord Pilkington of Oxenford to leave out clause 119; which being objected to, the question was put thereupon, and the House divided:

Contents.............41

Not-Contents.............117

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Belhaven and Stenton, L.
Beloff, L.
Blaker, L.
Blatch, B.
Bledisloe, V.
Bowness, L.
Burnham, L. [Teller]
Cadman, L.
Calverley, L.
Carnegy of Lour, B.
Clark of Kempston, L.
Coleraine, L.
Coleridge, L.
 Elton, L.
Hardwicke, E.
Haslam, L.
Hemphill, L.
Hunt of Wirral, L.
Hurd of Westwell, L.
Leigh, L.
Mancroft, L.
Marlesford, L.
Massereene and Ferrard, V.
Milverton, L.
Mountevans, L.
Mowbray and Stourton, L.
Napier and Ettrick, L.
 Norrie, L.
Park of Monmouth, B.
Pilkington of Oxenford, L.
Rawlings, B.
Rees, L.
Seccombe, B. [Teller]
Strange, B.
Tebbit, L.
Tugendhat, L.
Vivian, L.
Waddington, L.
Wedgwood, L.
Wise, L.
Young, B.

NOT-CONTENTS

Addington, L.
Allenby of Megiddo, V.
Amos, B.
Archer of Sandwell, L.
Barnett, L.
Berkeley, L.
Blackstone, B.
Blease, L.
Borrie, L.
Burlison, L.
Carlisle, E.
Carmichael of Kelvingrove, L.
Carter, L. [Teller]
Clinton-Davis, L.
Cocks of Hartcliffe, L.
Currie of Marylebone, L.
Darcy de Knayth, B.
David, B.
Davies of Coity, L.
Dean of Beswick, L.
Desai, L.
Dixon, L.
Donoughue, L.
Dormand of Easington, L.
Dubs, L.
Eatwell, L.
Evans of Parkside, L.
Falconer of Thoroton, L.
Falkland, V.
Farrington of Ribbleton, B.
Gallacher, L.
Geraint, L.
Gilbert, L.
Gladwin of Clee, L.
Graham of Edmonton, L.
Grenfell, L.
Hacking, L.
Hamwee, B.
 Hardy of Wath, L.
Haskel, L.
Hayman, B.
Hilton of Eggardon, B.
Hogg of Cumbernauld, L.
Hollis of Heigham, B.
Hooson, L.
Howie of Troon, L.
Hoyle, L.
Hughes, L.
Hughes of Woodside, L.
Hunt of Kings Heath, L.
Irvine of Lairg, L. (Lord Chancellor)
Islwyn, L.
Jacobs, L.
Jay of Paddington, B.
Jeger, B.
Jenkins of Putney, L.
Judd, L.
Kennedy of The Shaws, B.
Lawrence, L.
Lester of Herne Hill, L.
Levy, L.
Lockwood, B.
Lofthouse of Pontefract, L.
McCarthy, L.
McIntosh of Haringey, L. [Teller]
McNally, L.
Maddock, B.
Mallalieu, B.
Mason of Barnsley, L.
Merlyn-Rees, L.
Milner of Leeds, L.
Molloy, L.
Monkswell, L.
Montague of Oxford, L.
Murray of Epping Forest, L.
Newby, L.
Nicholson of Winterbourne, B.
 Nicol, B.
Orme, L.
Perry of Walton, L.
Pitkeathley, B.
Ponsonby of Shulbrede, L.
Prys-Davies, L.
Ramsay of Cartvale, B.
Randall of St. Budeaux, L.
Rea, L.
Redesdale, L.
Rendell of Babergh, B.
Renwick of Clifton, L.
Richard, L. (Lord Privy Seal)
Ripon, Bp.
Rochester, L.
Rogers of Riverside, L.
Scotland of Asthal, B.
Sefton of Garston, L.
Shepherd, L.
Simon, V.
Simon of Highbury, L.
Smith of Gilmorehill, B.
Stoddart of Swindon, L.
Stone of Blackheath, L.
Taylor of Blackburn, L.
Taylor of Gryfe, L.
Thomas of Walliswood, B.
Tope, L.
Tordoff, L.
Turner of Camden, B.
Vinson, L.
Walker of Doncaster, L.
Wallace of Saltaire, L.
Whitty, L.
Williams of Crosby, B.
Williams of Elvel, L.
Williams of Mostyn, L.
Winchilsea and Nottingham, E.
Winston, L.
Young of Old Scone, B.

APPENDIX

Sixth Report from the Select Committee
on the House of Lords’ Offices

Monday 13th July 1998

By the Select Committee appointed to consider the House of Lords’ Offices

Ordered to Report—

The Committee has met and been attended by the Clerk of the Parliaments and the Gentlemen Usher of the Black Rod.

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1. Sub-Committee membership

Lord Acton was appointed to the Refreshment Sub-Committee.

2. House of Lords Annual Report and Accounts

The Committee approved the Annual Report and Accounts for 1997-98.

3. Old Palace Yard

The Committee approved a scheme to refurbish Old Palace Yard. The scheme will be undertaken in three stages during the summer recesses of 1999, 2000 and 2001. No Peers’ car parking spaces will be lost as a result of the scheme, and access to the House will be maintained during the works.

4. Seating in the Chamber

The Committee agreed to make permanent the arrangement whereby the space in the Chamber behind the Table is reserved for disabled Peers.

5. Staff pay

The Committee took note of the pay awards to House of Lords staff for 1998; the cost to the pay bill will be 3.9 per cent.

6. Lords’ Reimbursement Allowances

The Committee took note of an increase in the bicycle allowance to 6.4 pence per mile, with effect from 1 April 1998.